Reality Check For The Excusers

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Theoneandonly

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We are in the old division three. We had three goals scored against us by Fleetwood? Fleetwood!!!! The ball has to get past 10 players before arriving at our goal. The players that should start a game don't and half the time we play what we do have out of position. Please no more comments about cracking game, Critchley doesn't know his best team, etc, etc. At this stage, a professional manager should know his best team and the tactics that his players understand and can implement. The last two games no excuses just flat-out not good enough. Anything less than the playoffs is an abject failure this season. We make life much harder than it needs to be and we're dropping points that a promotion-chasing team should be picking up. I'm embarrassed by the timidity of the comments on here on match day. Enough with the little Blackpool mindset.
 
We pullled 2 back with 10 men and had Peterborough on the ropes in the 2nd half. We came out 2 down last night and scored 3, should have won.

We have excellent players who are not playing at the moment. Inconsistent for sure and work to do but no need for those kind of reactions, we will get the balance right.
 
Mike_BFC said:
We pullled 2 back with 10 men and had Peterborough on the ropes in the 2nd half. We came out 2 down last night and scored 3, should have won.

We have excellent players who are not playing at the moment. Inconsistent for sure and work to do but no need for those kind of reactions, we will get the balance right.
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Peterborough on the ropes, oh common, they were coasting and so dropped off and let us back into it. So don't worry lads we are 3 down at home never mind as we came back into it.
 
Aim in the middle maybe.

Oscillate between lower Championship and upper L1. 😀

Success is all relative. And it's actually quite weird, being obsessed with some other human beings achieving success on our behalf. Why do we do that?
 
Don't worry we're only 2 points off the playoffs and in a great position.
Sonny has proved all the doubters wrong by having two decent halves of football.
CJ has shut all the bed wetters up by playing great, well, not at the moment but he will get better again, have patience.
Just wait til the two Ollys come back into the team but OB and Marv are more than capable.
And to put the cherry on the cake we've a more than capable coach who knows exactly when to play his best players (after we've given the opposition a lead) and knows exactly when to take them off (removing the top goalscorer when you've got opposition on the ropes)
Trust the process, stop wanting your team to be successful and appreciate you've a football club to support.
The futures bright, the future's tangerine.
 
Northstandsinger said:
Why you getting all aggressive and swearing at someone saying we should be aiming for better? How about let’s change our mentality and say we do belong there ?
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Doesn't matter about our mentality. Facts are since 1978 we've been mostly a lower league club barring 8 or so seasons. That's all my lifetime. We don't 'belong' anywhere other than where we are because it's where we deserve to be.

We are a small club with a small ground and small support. I can't ever see us sustaining top 2 tier level like we did up until the late 1970's.

Lytham is right.
 
Wizzerboy said:
The club is over 125 years old and played the majority of their games in the top two divisions, suggesting that it isn't bollocks at all.
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Football was a totally different game when we were a top 2 tier club.

All the main Lancashire clubs were the same. Burnley won the league in 1960, nobbers were FA Cup finalists in 1964. None of us apart from Jack Walkers millions have won anything since.

We've been mostly lower league since the abolishment of the maximum wage.
 
Lewis_Winthorpe said:
Football was a totally different game when we were a top 2 tier club.

All the main Lancashire clubs were the same. Burnley won the league in 1960, nobbers were FA Cup finalists in 1964. None of us apart from Jack Walkers millions have won anything since.

We've been mostly lower league since the abolishment of the maximum wage.
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Fine, aim low.
Ickle old Blackpool reigns supreme 😔
 
Lewis_Winthorpe said:
Doesn't matter about our mentality. Facts are since 1978 we've been mostly a lower league club barring 8 or so seasons. That's all my lifetime. We don't 'belong' anywhere other than where we are because it's where we deserve to be.

We are a small club with a small ground and small support. I can't ever see us sustaining top 2 tier level like we did up until the late 1970's.

Lytham is right.
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We’re a bigger club than both Brentford and Bournemouth who seem to be doing just fine.
Lytham is not right and neither are you. History is history let’s concentrate on the future and stop being spineless.
 
Lewis_Winthorpe said:
Doesn't matter about our mentality. Facts are since 1978 we've been mostly a lower league club barring 8 or so seasons. That's all my lifetime. We don't 'belong' anywhere other than where we are because it's where we deserve to be.

We are a small club with a small ground and small support. I can't ever see us sustaining top 2 tier level like we did up until the late 1970's.

Lytham is right.
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Your glass needs topping up....

It's half empty! 🙁
 
Personally i think the club is in a good position, i remember having to seek re- election many years ago and the bad times not many years ago when probably most of us on here never went for obvious reasons. We are were we are because that's football, ups and downs, goods and bads etc etc. i have a saying everyone's opinion is correct because that's what we as individuals believe and we should always respect that irrespective of your own thoughts, if there is going to be criticism of posts make them constructive and have some substance behind it
 
Anyone remember the 80s? Or even where we were just five years ago? We can and will improve. Progress that is slow is still progress.
 
Lytham_fy8 said:
No, not aim low, but stop being so ** entitled and show some patience, is sounds like we 'belong' in the Championship, which history shows is bollocks.
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What ** history are you looking at, yes the history that backs up your stupid ** argument, the ship would be hitting the sea bed and you would be like its ok chaps don't worry we can turn this around! You and all the other apologists do not get it, its the brand of shite football on offer that is the problem. Don't quote history to fans who have sat in the pissing rain on grass banks away at Rochdale in the old fourth division on a shite weather Tuesday night, the football we play is sucking the life out of the club, the fans start of with renewed optimism each match and then, well we know what happens..
 
Lewis_Winthorpe said:
Doesn't matter about our mentality. Facts are since 1978 we've been mostly a lower league club barring 8 or so seasons. That's all my lifetime. We don't 'belong' anywhere other than where we are because it's where we deserve to be.

We are a small club with a small ground and small support. I can't ever see us sustaining top 2 tier level like we did up until the late 1970's.

Lytham is right.
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Here endeth the lecture
 
Lytham_fy8 said:
No, not aim low, but stop being so ** entitled and show some patience, is sounds like we 'belong' in the Championship, which history shows is bollocks.
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With the money Mr Sadler has put into this squad we do belong in the championship
Lytham_fy8 said:
No, not aim low, but stop being so ** entitled and show some patience, is sounds like we 'belong' in the Championship, which history shows is bollocks.
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Unfortunately a section of our fan base is happy with a bit of fist pumping every few weeks and Mr Negative gets away scott free again
 
Lewis_Winthorpe said:
Doesn't matter about our mentality. Facts are since 1978 we've been mostly a lower league club barring 8 or so seasons. That's all my lifetime. We don't 'belong' anywhere other than where we are because it's where we deserve to be.

We are a small club with a small ground and small support. I can't ever see us sustaining top 2 tier level like we did up until the late 1970's.

Lytham is right.
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Is he bollux right 🙄
 
Lytham_fy8 said:
No, not aim low, but stop being so ** entitled and show some patience, is sounds like we 'belong' in the Championship, which history shows is bollocks.
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Our recent history is as good as worthless for comparisons, given how we were held back by dreadful owners, with almost no investment and half a rusting stadium for much if it.

People always try and compare attendancs with league 1 under the stains, utterly pointless.
 
Micky Walsh said:
Peterborough on the ropes, oh common, they were coasting and so dropped off and let us back into it. So don't worry lads we are 3 down at home never mind as we came back into it.
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We had them completely on the back foot and hanging on woth 10 men. They may have dropped off but we also weren't playing well, pressing or playing our better players 1st half.
 
bramn33 said:
What is the best team available? everyone will have a different opinion on that one and everyone's opinion is correct as we are all football managers with extensive knowledge of the game.
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It includes Dembele without question and in my opinion, Lavery, who looked sharper than he has for a while against Cheltenham, only to be left out against Peterborough.
 
I think to a point you are correct Dembele is what you need when things are going our way to add something that to be honest no one else in the team can give us but not someone to have in the team when backs are against the wall, with regards Lavery versus Kouassi two totally different players who add different attributes to the team. Kouassi might be better playing with Lavery because of his pace, with Rhodes he has to hold things up for support
 
bramn33 said:
I think to a point you are correct Dembele is what you need when things are going our way to add something that to be honest no one else in the team can give us but not someone to have in the team when backs are against the wall, with regards Lavery versus Kouassi two totally different players who add different attributes to the team. Kouassi might be better playing with Lavery because of his pace, with Rhodes he has to hold things up for support
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Just to let you know that our backs were against the wall against Fleetwood AND Peterborough BEFORE Dembele was brought on.
Hope that clears things up👍🏻
 
Theoneandonly said:
We are in the old division three. We had three goals scored against us by Fleetwood? Fleetwood!!!! The ball has to get past 10 players before arriving at our goal. The players that should start a game don't and half the time we play what we do have out of position. Please no more comments about cracking game, Critchley doesn't know his best team, etc, etc. At this stage, a professional manager should know his best team and the tactics that his players understand and can implement. The last two games no excuses just flat-out not good enough. Anything less than the playoffs is an abject failure this season. We make life much harder than it needs to be and we're dropping points that a promotion-chasing team should be picking up. I'm embarrassed by the timidity of the comments on here on match day. Enough with the little Blackpool mindset.
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“Enough with the little Blackpool mindset” yet it’s that exact mindset you’re inflicting on other clubs in this division.

How many times did we hear “teams like Blackpool” in the championship and now we’ve dropped down a league 1 we’ve suddenly got a divine right to win every game? Absolute drivel
 
Micky Walsh said:
What ** history are you looking at, yes the history that backs up your stupid ** argument, the ship would be hitting the sea bed and you would be like its ok chaps don't worry we can turn this around! You and all the other apologists do not get it, it’s the brand of shite football on offer that is the problem. Don't quote history to fans who have sat in the pissing rain on grass banks away at Rochdale in the old fourth division on a shite weather Tuesday night, the football we play is sucking the life out of the club, the fans start of with renewed optimism each match and then, well we know what happens..
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Am I going mental?? The second half last night is probably the best football we’ve played all season? Their lad scores a decent goal in the 90th minute. If he doesn’t this board would be completely different.

We’ve scored in 10 games in a row. In that run we’ve had 4 against Reading, 2 against Charlton away, 3 at home to Stevenage, 3 at home to Cheltenham, 5 in the efl cup, 2 against Peterborough and another 3 last night. Where is the shite football???

He got the lineup wrong. Yes. We were too passive in the first half. Yes. We have set up to play too safe too often. Yes.

But does that really justify the constant lynching of Critchley whenever we don’t get 3 points? Even when we win he gets pelters. It’s petulance and pettiness beyond belief. Not to mention arrogance thinking that we should be blowing teams away every week.

I’m absolutely at a loss with the reaction on here from the last two games.
 
neyo said:
I think it's irrelevant though. Otherwise somebody better go and tell Brighton, Fulham and Brentford they're in the wrong league too. History has been and gone, but what's before you, you can work on, based on merit not histrionics.
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All 3 you mention have got significant investment down the years. Like I said, football has changed since we were considered a good sized club.

Brighton have far better support also. They've been a sleeping giant for years.

Our owner doesn't invest to their levels and never will.

I'd be happy to be proven wrong in the coming years obviously
 
Wizzerboy said:
Just to let you know that our backs were against the wall against Fleetwood AND Peterborough BEFORE Dembele was brought on.
Hope that clears things up👍🏻
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Backs against the wall against Fleetwood really i thought we dominated the game to be honest if our final balls had been better from the wide positions we got into it could of been a different game, the defensive mistakes would still have been there even if Dembele had started. My opinion only
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It certainly does your football knowledge must be a lot greater than mine.
 
bramn33 said:
Backs against the wall against Fleetwood really i thought we dominated the game to be honest if our final balls had been better from the wide positions we got into it could of been a different game, the defensive mistakes would still have been there even if Dembele had started. My opinion only

It certainly does your football knowledge must be a lot greater than mine.
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We dominated that well we were 2 down after 20 minutes!!
Final balls, different game, defensive mistakes all kinda woulda shoulda coulda.
Yeh, if we'd won every game this season we'd be top of the league.
 
Wizzerboy said:
We dominated that well we were 2 down after 20 minutes!!
Final balls, different game, defensive mistakes all kinda woulda shoulda coulda.
Yeh, if we'd won every game this season we'd be top of the league.
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As i said my opinion only which we are all entitled to, you can dominate games and still concede you know, guess what if we had lost every game this season we would of been bottom.
 
Micky Walsh said:
What ** history are you looking at, yes the history that backs up your stupid ** argument, the ship would be hitting the sea bed and you would be like its ok chaps don't worry we can turn this around! You and all the other apologists do not get it, its the brand of shite football on offer that is the problem. Don't quote history to fans who have sat in the pissing rain on grass banks away at Rochdale in the old fourth division on a shite weather Tuesday night, the football we play is sucking the life out of the club, the fans start of with renewed optimism each match and then, well we know what happens..
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Where to start with that?

Yes, I am looking at the history that backs up my argument, precisely because it backs up my argument, that's what examples are.

The 'ship' isn't hitting the sea bed or whatever crap analogy you wish to use, it's November and we're two points off the play offs, maybe take a look at the league table?

Me and all other 'apologists'? I wish life were so black and white and you could box everyone off, here's one for you, a ** panic monkey, see, not really fair is it?

What has Rochdale away in the fourth division got to do with now? You can't tell me to forget history but use it to suit yourself, were you the only one there? Pretty sure I remember a few on? Are you suggesting they all share your view because of 'suffering'?

The football isn't sucking the life at all, we've played far worse football, even under lauded managers, there's only really Holloway's team that were sometimes entertaining and even then some games were a grind. If you want constant attacking entertaining football may I suggest that this game might not be for you?

A few short years ago we were a dead club with a wankstain of an owner and no one with any morals attending, back then we'd have cried out for this situation, a local real fan owning the club and an actual ethos of what we wanted to be with a manager who's already built one team in time.

But no, some just want the moon on a ** stick and complain about everything unless it's all how they envision. You want to sack a manager who two points off the top six in early November? Don't be so ** childish.

What happened to supporting the club?
 
Lewis_Winthorpe said:
Doesn't matter about our mentality. Facts are since 1978 we've been mostly a lower league club barring 8 or so seasons. That's all my lifetime. We don't 'belong' anywhere other than where we are because it's where we deserve to be.

We are a small club with a small ground and small support. I can't ever see us sustaining top 2 tier level like we did up until the late 1970's.

Lytham is right.
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For the first 90 years of their history Bournemouth didn’t play above league 1. It’s a good thing they don’t have the same small club, small ground, small support mentality as you. Or do you think they should be immediately placed in league 1, because thats where they, using your argument, belong.
 
bramn33 said:
What is the best team available? everyone will have a different opinion on that one and everyone's opinion is correct as we are all football managers with extensive knowledge of the game.
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Stop banging that same shit drum. We don’t have to be football managers, I’m not a brain surgeon but I know shooting someone in the head won’t improve their wellbeing much.
 
Albert Ross said:
For the first 90 years of their history Bournemouth didn’t play above league 1. It’s a good thing they don’t have the same small club, small ground, small support mentality as you. Or do you think they should be immediately placed in league 1, because thats where they, using your argument, belong.
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They also didnt sack a manager in November when they were two points off the top six.
 
Albert Ross said:
Albert Ross said:
Stop banging that same shit drum. We don’t have to be football managers, I’m not a brain surgeon but I know shooting someone in the head won’t improve their wellbeing much.
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Stop banging that same shit drum. We don’t have to be football managers, I’m not a brain surgeon but I know shooting someone in the head won’t improve their wellbeing much.
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Sorry Albert it was only my opinion, obviously your knowledge of our wonderful game is very limited but i respect your views, and by the way i don't have a drum
 
Lytham_fy8 said:
They also didnt sack a manager in November when they were two points off the top six.
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I didn’t suggest the manager should be sacked . I also bow to your knowledge of the History of Bournemouth managers, if they were sacked and in which month. Very impressive.
 
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