Remember when...

Adams Kebab said:
Do you remember our previous managers talking about the importance of Madine in our own box winning headers and helping out on set-pieces?

You won’t do, because you do not understand football or tactics and enjoy being a moaning miserable sap.

It’s a shame for you, so much more to life 💪🏽
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A game we needed to win and you are talking about the importance of a striker coming back to win headers at throw ins. God you deserve shit football.
 
What's all this entitled bollocks, its like it's a new watch word for the idiots who don't have any ambition

it isn't entitled to expect a team who's just been relegated from the Championship to be challenging at the top end of a league lower

it isn't entitled to think our club should have a chance of winning away from home

it isn't entitled for the fans who watch Blackpool week in week out to want to watch a better brand of football

it isn't entitled to expect the current group of players to be able to play better than what they are

it isn't entitled to want the current manager to set a team up to give us the best possible chance of winning

it isn't entitled to want the owner to invest better in players especially as we have sold our best 2 players over the last 2 seasons

it isn't entitled for fans to expect to see a shovel in the ground for a new training ground after being told it was happening 4 years ago

it isn't entitled to want the club to be the best it can be
 
Wizaard said:
The mentality of the players?

Changing managers has got us absolutely nowhere apart from relegation.

We need stability on and off the pitch. Every successful side in the last 100 years has had that.
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I honestly don’t know why we’re not doing better I really don’t.
Yes I accept it’s the manager who gets the flak when things aren’t going right but I honestly can’t put my finger on anything else.
We keep changing the starting 11, we have players on the bench who should be starting, we have issues with substitutions too late etc or wrong ones, we even have players playing out of their natural position we have players who don’t even get in the squad anymore why? 🤷‍♂️
Sorry but this is down to management not team mentality.
 
TANGERINETOWERPOWER said:
That’s fair enough but those fine margins have no doubt cost us at Lincoln, port vale, Wycombe , Cambridge Fleetwood, Burton etc etc..the problem is that we are losing and drawing games we could win all too frequently ..even if we win every home game(we won’t) it may not be enough to make the play offs. Getting rid of Critchley now is a poor option but he has to temper his stubborn streak and compromise by at least playing our best 11 and going for it.
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Yes, agreed. Something in the psyche isn't right when we go on the road and that needs to change and quickly, if we're not to have a season of 'if only'.
 
Agree on ‘wanting’ something is not acting entitled Phil.

If your kids wanted to go to Disneyland that’s not unusual. You’d take them if you could.

If your kids demanded you take them and expected nothing less as they had a friend who’s dad was rich and they’d been - that would be that horrible new phrase ‘entitled’.
 
Jaffa_The_Hut said:
I honestly don’t know why we’re not doing better I really don’t.
Yes I accept it’s the manager who gets the flak when things aren’t going right but I honestly can’t put my finger on anything else.
We keep changing the starting 11, we have players on the bench who should be starting, we have issues with substitutions too late etc or wrong ones, we even have players playing out of their natural position we have players who don’t even get in the squad anymore why? 🤷‍♂️
Sorry but this is down to management not team mentality.
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I agree
 
Wizaard said:
The mentality of the players?

Changing managers has got us absolutely nowhere apart from relegation.

We need stability on and off the pitch. Every successful side in the last 100 years has had that.
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A big part of the problem was not jettisoning Appleton after that Wigan game which would have afforded a new manager time to recruit his own targets in January and at least attempt to stay up. To then get Mick McCarthy just exacerbated the situation and that’s where we are now.. it’s pointless getting rid of Critchley now but it should be made clear that if we get off to another poor start next season then that is unacceptable. I think he would have to concede this season has been a failure albeit as a knock on from the Michael Clouseau Appleton clusterfuck.
 
TANGERINETOWERPOWER said:
A big part of the problem was not jettisoning Appleton after that Wigan game which would have afforded a new manager time to recruit his own targets in January and at least attempt to stay up. To then get Mick McCarthy just exacerbated the situation and that’s where we are now.. it’s pointless getting rid of Critchley now but it should be made clear that if we get off to another poor start next season then that is unacceptable. I think he would have to concede this season has been a failure albeit as a knock on from the Michael Clouseau Appleton clusterfuck.
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This. ⬆️
 
Phil_bfc deux said:
What's all this entitled bollocks, its like it's a new watch word for the idiots who don't have any ambition

it isn't entitled to expect a team who's just been relegated from the Championship to be challenging at the top end of a league lower

it isn't entitled to think our club should have a chance of winning away from home

it isn't entitled for the fans who watch Blackpool week in week out to want to watch a better brand of football

it isn't entitled to expect the current group of players to be able to play better than what they are

it isn't entitled to want the current manager to set a team up to give us the best possible chance of winning

it isn't entitled to want the owner to invest better in players especially as we have sold our best 2 players over the last 2 seasons

it isn't entitled for fans to expect to see a shovel in the ground for a new training ground after being told it was happening 4 years ago

it isn't entitled to want the club to be the best it can be
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I think you're missing the point or suggesting that those who realise that success can be evasive, especially instant success, don't want the best for the club.

If you want to name call I'd suggest those that take a short term view are idiots who selfishly need constant gratification instead of what might be best for the club.

Easy fucing game to play that one.
 
Lytham_fy8 said:
I think you're missing the point or suggesting that those who realise that success can be evasive, especially instant success, don't want the best for the club.

If you want to name call I'd suggest those that take a short term view are idiots who selfishly need constant gratification instead of what might be best for the club.

Easy fucing game to play that one.
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8th place in division 3 isn't what's best for the club

If you are happy with that then it says more about you than me and let's not forget you started this ridiculous thread along with another one saying the same ** thing
 
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Chunkylad said:
Can you imagine the atmosphere in that Blackpool Mechanics changing room as they all sat there watching the Blackpool Baresi telling the manager that his tactics are shit and the rest of the players except him are shit and they’d no chance of winning before the game kicks off?
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To be honest mate, no I can’t because he’d have either of been told to do one or head butted 🤣
 
A_Tense_Grin said:
A game we needed to win and you are talking about the importance of a striker coming back to win headers at throw ins. God you deserve shit football.
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First 20 minutes he was holding it up well too and linking up in our best spell of the game… you won’t have noticed this, probably telling your kids it was going to be 1-0 Stevenage.

Morgan shot deflected just wide, their shot deflected in. Fine margins.

Did we fail to change the game pro-actively after an hour or so, 100%! But the team picked was to still give us threats and help us cope with their direct football, which we did. We just went too direct and didn’t play well.

Anyone with an ounce of footballing intelligence would understand this, so I get why you don’t.
 
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Chunkylad said:
Agree on ‘wanting’ something is not acting entitled Phil.

If your kids wanted to go to Disneyland that’s not unusual. You’d take them if you could.

If your kids demanded you take them and expected nothing less as they had a friend who’s dad was rich and they’d been - that would be that horrible new phrase ‘entitled’.
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I don't support Disneyland though and I have no emotional attachment to Disneyland so it's a completely different scenario
 
Phil_bfc deux said:
I don't support Disneyland though and I have no emotional attachment to Disneyland so it's a completely different scenario
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I’ll have to work on my analogies Phil.

Maybe I am wrong? I just struggle with the rip it up and start again stuff.

I found with setting up tech companies that it always takes way longer than you want to make it a success and the frustration is why so many small businesses go under. You have a great idea but not enough time or money to see it succeed.
 
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Lytham_fy8 said:
We used to laugh at Sunderland or The Massive for being a bunch of self entitled whingers who thought they had a divine right to walk the league?

Thems were the days...
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Yeah they were a club with a huge budget too so you can understand not being happy in league 1.

We've been a bit sulky this season but kind of understandable given last season and the owner appointing a manager no-one wanted in Appleton. Then you've got the Critchley reappointment which again, going back always upsets some who made their mind up when he left.

Tbh I haven't seen people saying we have a divine right to walk the league, just to be doing better and in the playoffs by beating a few poor sides we should have beaten.

2 up at Charlton with 80 mins gone and drew. The comeback at struggling Fleetwood and then gave it away. Battering Charlton at home and still drawing. Just winning one other away game against some poor opposition and we'd be well in the playoffs. That is well within thr capability of the squad to have held out in those games and won 1 against a struggling side.

It is what it is though.
 
Adams Kebab said:
First 20 minutes he was holding it up well too and linking up in our best spell of the game… you won’t have noticed this, probably telling your kids it was going to be 1-0 Stevenage.

Morgan shot deflected just wide, their shot deflected in. Fine margins.

Did we fail to change the game pro-actively after an hour or so, 100%! But the team picked was to still give us threats and help us cope with their direct football, which we did. We just went too direct and didn’t play well.

Anyone with an ounce of footballing intelligence would understand this, so I get why you don’t.
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Kouassi is nowhere near ready or good enough to be playing in such an important game.

Your argument would be valid if the tactics worked and we got a result. You are defending tactics that clearly didn't work. The formation is a joke and anyone who understands football will know this. You carry on defending and justifying shitness.
 
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Chunkylad said:
I’ll have to work on my analogies Phil.

Maybe I am wrong? I just struggle with the rip it up and start again stuff.

I found with setting up tech companies that it always takes way longer than you want to make it a success and the frustration is why so many small businesses go under. You have a great idea but not enough time or money to see it succeed.
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I'm not saying it needs ripping up and starting again and I have very little faith in Sadler getting a better manager in, so we may as well stick with Critchley

People are dissatisfied with the season and are upset and angry with the results in what's a results business

it isn't entitled to want better and that's what this thread is about
 
Phil_bfc deux said:
I'm not saying it needs ripping up and starting again and I have very little faith in Sadler getting a better manager in, so we may as well stick with Critchley

People are dissatisfied with the season and are upset and angry with the results in what's a results business

it isn't entitled to want better and that's what this thread is about
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That’s what I am saying too. I want better.

No it is not entitled to want better. Correct.

It is entitled to expect you are ‘owed’ it.
 
A_Tense_Grin said:
Your argument would be valid if the tactics worked and we got a result. You are defending tactics that clearly didn't work. The formation is a joke and anyone who understands football will know this. You carry on defending and justifying shitness.
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Fuckin hell you are thick.

I’m telling you what happened tactically because someone needs to. It’s not about defending them it’s about understanding them.

If we’d have started Lavery and Dembele and we lost you would’ve said they were too small and Stevenage were too physical and that’s where we are at. You’re happy being miserable. You need it to justify you're existence.

Have a simply lovely day 🤗

Let us know your predictions for the Oxford game and the next few games as you’re so on the money we can empty those wretched bookmakers satchels. Looking forward to it (if it’s ok to look forward to something with you). Hope so 🙏🏼
 
Chunkylad said:
That’s what I am saying too. I want better.

No it is not entitled to want better. Correct.

It is entitled to expect you are ‘owed’ it.
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Nobody had said that have they?

I certainly expected better but I dont think I've seen anyone say we are owed promotion?
 
Of course mist of us expected to be challenging for a play off place however that's quite different to demanding it - that would be entitled.
What has concerned me is the fkn inconsistencies .The football has been less boring of late ,( I did not see the game yesterday so open to criticism on that) .
What we do have is a good squad for this league but somehow struggle against the likes of Stevenage and those teams who employ agricultural tactics .
Agreed NC is not the most charismatic managers when compared to Ayre,Holloway or big Sam.He's essentially a technocrat which is not a bad thing and there are plenty of manager of that persuasion who have been v successful.
Getting shut now would be disruptive and,I suspect,pointless.

Finally I do still believe we can make the play offs. It is getting to be a bigger ask and I think the next 2 games will give us an idea about achieving this .
 
It’s only nonsense if there are no posts from anyone on here stating that we should be going up with our resources.
 
hertfordseasider said:
Get it right Wiz…. It’s tippy tappy football in our box and then HOOF!

Hubby taking the goal kicks, passing to Grimmy in the middle of the 6 yard box back to Hubby, back to Grimshaw, oh shit the attackers are on us so HOOF!
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Perhaps largely down to having Marv in the middle of a back three?
 
TwelveAngryMen said:
What’s frustrating is that we mainly come unstuck against limited teams who we seem more concerned about than we should be
I’m not being entitled when I say limited - generally they are bottom half sides
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And usually all players are 6 foot 4 + giants who do not play football (they should be sued under the trades descripion act).
 
Adams Kebab said:
Fuckin hell you are thick.

I’m telling you what happened tactically because someone needs to. It’s not about defending them it’s about understanding them.

If we’d have started Lavery and Dembele and we lost you would’ve said they were too small and Stevenage were too physical and that’s where we are at. You’re happy being miserable. You need it to justify you're existence.

Have a simply lovely day 🤗

Let us know your predictions for the Oxford game and the next few games as you’re so on the money we can empty those wretched bookmakers satchels. Looking forward to it (if it’s ok to look forward to something with you). Hope so 🙏🏼
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We know what happened tactically. That is the point. It was shit just like every away game.

In some way, the players selected is irrelevant. The root cause is the crap formation that is bordering on a disgrace.

I’ll carry on being pissed off, you carry on being happy that we won a few headers from throw-ins. Everyone’s ‘happy’.
 
A_Tense_Grin said:
We know what happened tactically. That is the point. It was shit just like every away game.

In some way, the players selected is irrelevant. The root cause is the crap formation that is bordering on a disgrace.

I’ll carry on being pissed off, you carry on being happy that we won a few headers from throw-ins. Everyone’s ‘happy’.
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What did you say after Bristol Rovers away?

I’m pleased you’re seeing ways of how to be happy, it’s pleasing I’m helping you 🤗
 
Phil_bfc deux said:
I'm not saying it needs ripping up and starting again and I have very little faith in Sadler getting a better manager in, so we may as well stick with Critchley

People are dissatisfied with the season and are upset and angry with the results in what's a results business

it isn't entitled to want better and that's what this thread is about
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It's not what the thread is about at all.
 
Insider said:
My point is your a WUM. What kind of football fan would switch channels when "their????" team is about to take a penalty shoot-out and watch Love Island.
You've hooked me in so you're the winner, well done. 👏
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We have some weird fans who clearly aren't wired up correctly

I read on this site the other day of someone leaving before the penalty shoot out due to a parking space
 
Insider said:
My point is your a WUM. What kind of football fan would switch channels when "their????" team is about to take a penalty shoot-out and watch Love Island.
You've hooked me in so you're the winner, well done. 👏
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Please find a quote where I said I switched channel? I watched the penalty shoot out so quite baffled as to why you would say that. Typical for a Critchley lover though
 
Phil_bfc deux said:
What's it about then as to me it just looks like the other one you posted moaning about people moaning
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It's how 'wanting better' is defined. Sack the manager, sell the club etc...isn't my idea of how to improve the club.

It's the kneejerk nuclear button approach of some, a lot of it tied up with not wanting Critchley back.

There has to be a counter argument and it's nothing to do with not wanting the club to succeed which you keep stating.
 
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Phil_bfc deux said:
8th place in division 3 isn't what's best for the club

If you are happy with that then it says more about you than me and let's not forget you started this ridiculous thread along with another one saying the same ** thing
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Accepting being currently 8th doesn't necessarily correlate with being happy about it. We can be better, and sometimes we are. Let's see where we are at the end of the season rather than conceding defeat already.

Those saying the season is over and a failure are the ones who are defeatist here.

We still have two shots at going to Wembley in April and May. That would be a good season whichever way you look at it.
 
Lytham_fy8 said:
It's how 'wanting better' is defined. Sack the manager, sell the club etc...isn't my idea of how to improve the club.

It's the kneejerk nuclear button approach of some, a lot of it tied up with not wanting Critchley back.

There has to be a counter argument and it's nothing to do with not wanting the club to succeed which you keep stating.
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I haven't said any of the above in your first sentence

You are just spouting out generalisations to try and make a point
 
Wizaard said:
The mentality of the players?

Changing managers has got us absolutely nowhere apart from relegation.

We need stability on and off the pitch. Every successful side in the last 100 years has had that.
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I agree we need stability at the club and a long term vision but I think we’ve backed the wrong horse. Critchley mark 1 was adaptable, Critchley mark 2 isn’t for whatever reason and we are now stuck with a back three that is leaking goals. I don’t think he is for changing and I can only see more of the same next season after a major rebuild when our (best) loan players go back in the summer.
 
Phil_bfc deux said:
I haven't said any of the above in your first sentence

You are just spouting out generalisations to try and make a point
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Because the posts aren't aimed at you, you might have noticed quite a few demanding instant change however.

Is the club perfect? No, it's far from it, the communication is poor, promotion is poor and the fan groups meeting thing is the most pointless load of vanilla bollocks ever invented.

But is the club staffed and owned by people who want the best for it and constantly grafting to take it forward? I think so, we'd have all taken that 6 years ago.
 
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