Rudyard Kipling Racist?

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DKl, what are your actual beliefs? All I see is what I don’t believe in?
My son and his girlfriend are coming around on Sunday and he has requested beef and gammon. I’m worried that I will be thought racist if I cook gammon. Please clarify
 
Just checked in to see if this board is still full of self rightious, BBC establishment defending, ignorant fake Lefties.

Erm hard to tell!

Only joking! 😁

Right! I've just been told to concentrate on Benidorl season 6 (repeat)


It was any easy spelling mistake to make. I realise you actually meant, Benecol.

It could help to reduce your heart rate.🤪
 
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Funny how you don't miss someone when they're away & you only realise they weren't there when they reappear 🙄
 
Don, you're coming across increasingly like a needy school child. What is it you want me to do, provide a literature exposition of Kipling's work, which I'm not overly familiar with? Didn't he write The Jungle Book? There are some good songs in that. My favourite is the one with the vultures, "That's What Friends Are For."
In the current thread, you're referring to The White Man's burden, an exhortation of the American white colonists to create more Lebensraum for themselves across what is now the USA under, what was it, the concept of manifest destiny, or some other excuse for racist crap imperialism?
Next you'll be telling me that the saviour complex is something that comes straight from the heart.

when I first read that ´The White Man’s Burden’ thread had been deleted, it bothered me. A forum version of book burning I thought. It didn’t take me long to realise, without having seen the thread in question, beyond reading the poem that it was the content of the subsequent posts that probably led to the whole thread being deleted.

Donk doesn’t do himself any favours, imho, but i do question the need for people to bait him in the way that it’s happening on this thread.

as Donk says, Google is great, Wiki, too, for that matter as long as one keeps half an eye on the origins and factual accuracy of some of the things that are posted on both.

Despite all the arguments, and yes, I’ve played my part in them from time to time, I have ‘enjoyed’, probably not quite the right word, the differences of opinion on many, perhaps every thread in the Politics / Covid section.

I’ve researched stuff from time to time to support my arguments and many others have clearly done the same.

The fact that Kipling’s poem was used during a debate in the US senate as an argument against the US taking control of the Phillipines after their war against Spain certainly shows the importance and the relevance of the poem at the time and it could have made for an interesting debate on here.

I’m not picking on 1966 specifically but, in his reply above there is really no need for the first sentence whilst the research, perhaps somewhat tongue in cheek where the vultures are concerned, is inaccurate in that the debate concerned the former Spanish territories, namely The Philippines, Guam, Puerto Rico and Cuba.

the last sentence was perhaps unnecessary, too.

Still, at least 1966 offered some form of argued response whilst other posts, one of which even picked him up for mistyping Benidorm, are as childish and immature as anything that Donk has written.
 
when I first read that ´The White Man’s Burden’ thread had been deleted, it bothered me. A forum version of book burning I thought. It didn’t take me long to realise, without having seen the thread in question, beyond reading the poem that it was the content of the subsequent posts that probably led to the whole thread being deleted.

Donk doesn’t do himself any favours, imho, but i do question the need for people to bait him in the way that it’s happening on this thread.

as Donk says, Google is great, Wiki, too, for that matter as long as one keeps half an eye on the origins and factual accuracy of some of the things that are posted on both.

Despite all the arguments, and yes, I’ve played my part in them from time to time, I have ‘enjoyed’, probably not quite the right word, the differences of opinion on many, perhaps every thread in the Politics / Covid section.

I’ve researched stuff from time to time to support my arguments and many others have clearly done the same.

The fact that Kipling’s poem was used during a debate in the US senate as an argument against the US taking control of the Phillipines after their war against Spain certainly shows the importance and the relevance of the poem at the time and it could have made for an interesting debate on here.

I’m not picking on 1966 specifically but, in his reply above there is really no need for the first sentence whilst the research, perhaps somewhat tongue in cheek where the vultures are concerned, is inaccurate in that the debate concerned the former Spanish territories, namely The Philippines, Guam, Puerto Rico and Cuba.

the last sentence was perhaps unnecessary, too.

Still, at least 1966 offered some form of argued response whilst other posts, one of which even picked him up for mistyping Benidorm, are as childish and immature as anything that Donk has written.
You’re taking this thread too seriously I’m afraid. Donk is a troll and WUM who comes on here drunk on a Friday and Saturday night and throws around a load of bile. Most people know this and jovially respond to him in kind. It’s all banter I believe is the modern parlance.
 
Donk doesn’t do himself any favours,
Much as I admire your defence of Donk, almost a plea, look back upon his responses to posters, usually insults, and his self belief in his own intellect. Simply rubs people up the wrong way and the result is we tolerate him in an amusing way. the reality is he comes across as someone we have to put up with. Sad I know, wish it was different.
 
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