Ryan Hardie

Good, another player off the pay-roll and some money back into the club. He may go on to do well at Argyle but from what I saw he wasn't good enough for higher L1/Championship.
 
Phil_bfc deux said:
Based on what half a dozen sub appearances in a team that didn't play to his strengths
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Based on 41 league appearances, only 10 goals and not once looking like he had anywhere near enough ability. He was always in an attacking position and never looked like scoring for us. He's hardly set L1 alight with 4 goals in 20+ games this season either, I really don't understand the fascination with him.
 
NewburyOne said:
Based on 41 league appearances, only 10 goals and not once looking like he had anywhere near enough ability. He was always in an attacking position and never looked like scoring for us. He's hardly set L1 alight with 4 goals in 20+ games this season either, I really don't understand the fascination with him.
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To be fair on the 4 goals thing - I was speaking to a Plymouth mate the other day and he said the lack of goals doesn't tell the whole story and that he's a big reason Jephcott has bagged 15 so far.

Saying that, seems a good move for all involved and I prefer our attacking options currently. Good luck to him.
 
NewburyOne said:
Based on 41 league appearances, only 10 goals and not once looking like he had anywhere near enough ability. He was always in an attacking position and never looked like scoring for us. He's hardly set L1 alight with 4 goals in 20+ games this season either, I really don't understand the fascination with him.
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So you are basing your opinion on him not being good enough for us from his wiki stats for another team

Got it ...
 
Good luck to the lad. I know the fee was undisclosed, but if there was only a few months of his contract left, it is very good business indeed, plus it frees up salary. How much did we pay for him?
 
He was given several chances with us.
He missed a relatively easy chance at Doncaster and had a stinker at Bolton.
He didn’t impress in the EFL cup games.
Maybe his heart wasn’t there at the club.

Good luck to him at Plymouth.
 
Good luck to him, always thought he deserved a better chance with us, but at least we got a fee for him although I doubt it would be much from aPlymouth.
 
Lee65 said:
Good luck to the lad. I know the fee was undisclosed, but if there was only a few months of his contract left, it is very good business indeed, plus it frees up salary. How much did we pay for him?
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Hardie signed July17th 2019 on a 2 year contract...with the option of a further year.
 
3 goals in 21 starts, hardly a big loss?
Telford left Plymouth yesterday so they need him, more than us
 
It's interesting that 19 league one appearances isn't enough to form a judgement on a player, but 7 games is plenty to judge whether a manager has got what it takes.
 
Phil_bfc deux said:
No i haven't got that

How many league games did he start for us?
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What does that have to do with anything? I watched pretty much every start or sub appearance he made for us and in my opinion he was poor. The stats I quoted underline my opinion, or do you have an issue with someone having an opinion that differs from yours? What did you see him do in a tangerine shirt that makes you think otherwise? Clearly the coaches at the club didn't rate him either so I'm not the only one didn't think he was good enough.
 
Chatted to his Dad before the Barrow pre-season game just after he joined who said he would thrive with good link up play from the midfield. Shame he never got that service because he looked a good finisher. Good luck to him.
 
I have a hunch Hardie might do better than Yates in the longer term but Yates is scoring goals in the here and now and has a great attitude and wants to be here - and he might prove me wrong.
 
Phil_bfc deux said:
No i haven't got that

How many league games did he start for us?
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It's a tough call making a judgement on a player that's made a total of 12 appearances for Blackpool first team which included 4 Trophy games. I can't tell you how many starts he made in the 7 League games he played in but I did see most of those and also some others he made for the reserves, including his hat-trick.
I'm just a bit neutral about him.
The bottom line is that the Manager didn't appear to rate him and I presume Ryan didn't want to stay where his face didn't fit so it's probably a good deal for both parties.
I wish him well.
 
NewburyOne said:
Based on 41 league appearances, only 10 goals and not once looking like he had anywhere near enough ability. He was always in an attacking position and never looked like scoring for us. He's hardly set L1 alight with 4 goals in 20+ games this season either, I really don't understand the fascination with him.
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10 goals in 41, roughly the same average as Gnanduillet. Yet some were anticipating his return as though it was the second coming.
 
BigHandsOliverKahn said:
Hopefully it means Simms might sign permanent.
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Don't think for one minute that Everton will sell Simms and even if he does go itll be to at least a championship side.
Let's make the most of him whilst we've got him. And hopefully he'll get us up via the play offs like that other quality Everton loanee Seamus 👍🏻
 
Pasty Muncher said:
Happy with that. He might not have scored the goals this season but he has laid on a few for Jephcott with who he has a great partnership !
He just needs to munch a few extra pasties to bulk himself up a bit !!!!
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All good strikers hunt in pairs, it seems in Hardie & Jephcott you have a good partnership. Good luck to him and the pilgrims, except when you play us of course.😜
 
Wizzerboy said:
Don't think for one minute that Everton will sell Simms and even if he does go itll be to at least a championship side.
Let's make the most of him whilst we've got him. And hopefully he'll get us up via the play offs like that other quality Everton loanee Seamus 👍🏻
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I'm pretty sure Simms' contract with Everton expires on 30.06.2021 so they need to offer him a new one first.
 
Goforgoal said:
10 goals in 41, roughly the same average as Gnanduillet. Yet some were anticipating his return as though it was the second coming.
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Not me, whilst Gnando did OK for us under a different manager and would have been a viable Plan B, he was never a player I would have pinned my hopes on firing us to promotion. His last 2 seasons were 25 from 73, which is considerably better than Hardie, so I'm not sure that comparison is a good one either.
 
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