Sadlers response on the official site

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Having read that, I'm not sure what there is to dispute. If our budget is higher than last season, that's fair enough. If that wasn't enough for Rosenior (rumour only, I'm just saying) then that's up to Rosenior, and we do only want a manager who wants to be here and thinks he can do a job. I for one have no doubts in Sadler, and as I've said before, I only care that he does what he perceives to be the best thing for the club - if he gets it wrong, so be it. So far I've seen nothing to suggest he isnt doing that.

I also think head-coach at Blackpool might be a little different to many clubs. I get the impression, there is a collective approach both to recruitment and to coaching based on what I've read, and I think that perhaps what the head coach needs to bring at Blackpool is hard work, decent football knowledge, resiliance and to keep the group (players and beyond) all pulling in the same direction. I wouldn't have picked Appleton from a list (having never spoken to any of the candidates, that's not saying much) and I don't know if Appleton can do the above, but I'm willing to find out.

Just my thoughts.

UTMP!
 
Having read that, I'm not sure what there is to dispute. If our budget is higher than last season, that's fair enough. If that wasn't enough for Rosenior (rumour only, I'm just saying) then that's up to Rosenior, and we do only want a manager who wants to be here and thinks he can do a job. I for one have no doubts in Sadler, and as I've said before, I only care that he does what he perceives to be the best thing for the club - if he gets it wrong, so be it. So far I've seen nothing to suggest he isnt doing that.

I also think head-coach at Blackpool might be a little different to many clubs. I get the impression, there is a collective approach both to recruitment and to coaching based on what I've read, and I think that perhaps what the head coach needs to bring at Blackpool is hard work, decent football knowledge, resiliance and to keep the group (players and beyond) all pulling in the same direction. I wouldn't have picked Appleton from a list (having never spoken to any of the candidates, that's not saying much) and I don't know if Appleton can do the above, but I'm willing to find out.

Just my thoughts.

UTMP!

Well the players will know that if it kicks off I reckon only Gaz Goals and mad uncle Richard could handle theirselves against him.

I might invite him to the gym. I reckon he could do a decent shoulder press
 
A slap on the wrist for the fans and another history lesson on how long he's supported the club. Also wants us to believe Appleton was first choice and Rosenoir is a figment of imagination. Getting prickly about the transfer budget as well.
 
"We recognise though that Michael is not every Blackpool fan’s first choice as the next Head Coach. I think that it’s common knowledge that some of us at the Club keep an eye on social media and I must confess to being disappointed at the extent of some of the negativity that I’ve read with regards to Michael’s appointment. Given what this Club went through before I bought it, I’m confounded that some fans go as far to claim that they would consider ripping up or not buying season tickets because they are unhappy with our choice of Head Coach. Whilst I cannot guarantee outcomes, it is my responsibility as custodian of this great Club of ours to ensure that the right decisions are made for the right reasons for both the Club’s present and its future. I will not shirk that responsibility even if said decisions are not universally popular."

Quite a scathing response, but in fairness to him I'm sure it must be frustrating that fans doubt him despite everything he's done for the club.
 
Well the players will know that if it kicks off I reckon only Gaz Goals and mad uncle Richard could handle theirselves against him.

I might invite him to the gym. I reckon he could do a decent shoulder press
He used to go to Virgin Active in Preston when I was a member there - talked to him on a few occasions, he was alright. You're right, big shoulders on him and liked/likes the weights.
 
A slap on the wrist for the fans and another history lesson on how long he's supported the club. Also wants us to believe Appleton was first choice and Rosenoir is a figment of imagination. Getting prickly about the transfer budget as well.
Opinions vary, but IMO, I'd get prickly if I said the budget is increased since last year and everyone panicked and said "Critch left cos there's no money AAARRRGGGHHH". And he didn't slap any wrists except those suggesting their support hinged on him making the appointment they wanted him to make. I think thats fair enough.
 
"My commitment to this Club and our town is not contingent, it is unwavering. When I bought the Club I said that I hoped that we’d get promoted within three years and we did it in two. I said that I’d address the East Stand and the training ground and plans are underway for both, with funding, that I will provide, likely being in the range of GBP 30m-40m. Earlier in the year, I told John, Ben and Critch that this year’s playing budget will likely be higher than last year’s and that has not changed. If the right business can be done and the right players can be sourced and secured, then more money is available and will be used. As we approach the start of my fourth season as owner, my ongoing aim remains to grow the playing budget year-on-year, as has happened every season since I bought the Club. I’m not going to walk away from any of my commitments to Blackpool Football Club."

Honestly, you just can't doubt the guys commitment. Okay the appointment is a little uninspiring, but if Sadler thinks he's the right man and willing to back him with a bigger budget than we had last season, then I'll get right behind them!
 
"We recognise though that Michael is not every Blackpool fan’s first choice as the next Head Coach. I think that it’s common knowledge that some of us at the Club keep an eye on social media and I must confess to being disappointed at the extent of some of the negativity that I’ve read with regards to Michael’s appointment. Given what this Club went through before I bought it, I’m confounded that some fans go as far to claim that they would consider ripping up or not buying season tickets because they are unhappy with our choice of Head Coach. Whilst I cannot guarantee outcomes, it is my responsibility as custodian of this great Club of ours to ensure that the right decisions are made for the right reasons for both the Club’s present and its future. I will not shirk that responsibility even if said decisions are not universally popular."

Quite a scathing response, but in fairness to him I'm sure it must be frustrating that fans doubt him despite everything he's done for the club.
Agree with you last sentence 95, but supporters do have a moral and ethical right to hold their owners and board members to account - even if they're ignored.
 
Everyone has a right to their opinions, and social media is now the norm for venting them. Some of the recent opinions on here have been bordering on hysterical, and I can understand Simon's frustrations at some of the sentiments expressed. The key point here though is that the fans on this forum have been able to vent their opinions, but they are not running the Club - Simon and his Management team are doing that, and given progress in recent years are doing a pretty good job of it imo. The appointment has been made - according to Simon, Appleton was UNANIMOUSLY the preferred candidate, and whether or not he was our own individual preference, we need to move on and get behind the new manager.

If you are unable to do that I would suggest that you move on in a different direction!
 
I hope the negative 'supporters' read that and take in that Sadler reads this board - I'd be disappointed too if I were him in some of what's been said, which as usual on here has been hysterical nonsense at times.
I don’t think anyone is doubting his commitment or sincerity, I just don’t think he yet realises that retrograde steps rarely lead to progress eg. Grayson. A more forward thinking appointment would probably have led to universal approval.
 
Agree with you last sentence 95, but supporters do have a moral and ethical right to hold their owners and board members to account - even if they're ignored.
Yeah absolutely, we all have our own opinions and we all want what's best for the club. However I do think in terms of people saying they want refunds for season tickets, and won't be renewing because of the appointment, it seems too far. For all any of us know we could have a blinder of a season under him, we just don't know and that's the joy of football! Hopefully everyone is willing to at least back the boards decision and give him a chance.
 
Have to say if I were Sadler I'd be a lot more questioning of just why I took the club on.

Promoted back to the Championship and stayed up comfortably - "yeah but it is 'boring' football.".

New training centre and ground development on the way, using £25-30m of own money to fund it with only a hope the money will come back - "Yeah but it isn't big enough, and I won't believe it until I see the last lick of paint dry".

Manager who we had been planning long term with leaves us in the lurch so we get an experienced manager in who is well regarded and wants to carry on the vision - "Yeah but he wasn't great for us and left after very few games when he worked here under the previous sh*those owners. I wanted someone else who played for us and talked to me once/didn't want to come/couldn't live with the parameters of the job/was someone but who the owner picked.".

This board is great at times, and I love that we debate player quality, managerial selection and even how the club is run but there is such a thing as perspective. If people really think SS has let this club down in any way or isn't working very hard to build success here then I don't know what to say. Nothing is perfect but I've seen nothing in SS but a local lad who has, and continues to, make a huge success with his company and who is using a large slice of his wealth to help build this club and this town up.

And as for Appleton he is our new manager. He has grown a lot in experience and success since the first spell. Can we at least give him until Christmas before deciding he is a failure. I'm not saying he gets a complete free pass but let's give the guy a fair go and expect good things rather than wish for bad.
 
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He is everything I want in an owner and we are very lucky to have him.

He wants to build the club to be the best version of itself, he’ll put the money in to achieve that. After years of underinvestment he is building for the club so it can sustain itself for years to come. He has also already delivered success, we don’t have a divine right to be a championship club. Another straight forward and honest statement from him, and fair play for listening to the fans and dropping the £2.

I’d tell him to ignore any negativity he sees on the internet, all clubs have morons as fans and we certainly have our fair share. Appleton wouldn’t have been my choice but he is Simon’s and he has enough credit in the bank for me to support his decision.
 
Some of our fanbase aren’t the brightest are they. They don’t live in the real world and think because they got Accrington Stanley to the prem on football manager then that’s how to run a club. Sadler bankrolled us through a pandemic and has been a godsend to our club, a club which is a proper football club now run in a competent manner, a club that you want to support and that you know any money you spend whether on tickets or merchandise is put back into the club and not into some shell of a company. We need to renew and support Appleton and Sadler, and so what if it ends up being a fight to stay up that’s what supporting a clubs all about, compare that to floundering in league 2 playing in front of 1500 people. Enjoy it we may just be surprised 👍
 
I for one am very grateful for everything Sadler has done to move the club forward. That however does not put him above reproach from supporters being underwhelmed by an appointment nor does the decision being unanimous make it a good one. Only time will tell and lets be honest you can do all the due diligence in the world and sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't.
 
I hope the negative 'supporters' read that and take in that Sadler reads this board - I'd be disappointed too if I were him in some of what's been said, which as usual on here has been hysterical nonsense at times.
Yes I've been negative and I agree it's a good read. This is a football messageboard and if you're an employee of the Club either as a Director, member of staff or a player if you come on here you need to be thick skinned. Apart from the the obvious WUMS there's plenty of posters that have been supporting this Club a long time, are opinionated but still want the same outcome as Simon Sadler to whom we are extremely grateful to for taking over (his words) the CUSTODIANSHIP of Blackpool FC. So it's fine be me for you to have a moan, Simon, at what I say but I won't be shy about having a moan. You can moan to your fellow Directors and be heard all I can do is have a moan on here but I'm NOT throwing my toys out of the pram if we disagree.
We all want the same thing at the end of the day.
Thank you for the last 3 years.
 
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It is possible to be delighted with SS as an owner, and the investments he's making and job he's done so far, but also be very disappointed by MA's appointment. I think he's done a brilliant job and we couldn't have wished for better, I just think on this occasion the wrong decision's been made. It'll be up to MA to prove us wrong, and SS to enable him to do that by backing him. I hope we have a fantastic season even if I have big doubts! If I'm made to eat my words this time next year then I'll be one happy fan.
 
'and also Ben already knew him well *cough*'
And this is a big part of the problem. It’s well-documented that Mr Mansford was his agent for the early part of his career.


In principle of course there’s nothing wrong with two people who’ve worked together in one capacity working together in another capacity. Happens all the time in the real world and can be a good way of ensuring compatibility etc.

However combined with the whiplash-inducing deviation from the stated ‘strategy’ and the fact that it seemed only Mr Rosenior was seriously considered from the stable of ‘young, hungry, up-and-coming’ coaches, there’s a real perception of conflict of interest. And perception can be as damaging as reality.

OK Rosenior (seemingly) turned us down. It happens. But why weren’t two or three other coaches of the same Ilk being spoken to? No one had heard of Carlos Coberan before he went to Huddersfield, had they?
 
And this is a big part of the problem. It’s well-documented that Mr Mansford was his agent for the early part of his career.


In principle of course there’s nothing wrong with two people who’ve worked together in one capacity working together in another capacity. Happens all the time in the real world and can be a good way of ensuring compatibility etc.

However combined with the whiplash-inducing deviation from the stated ‘strategy’ and the fact that it seemed only Mr Rosenior was seriously considered from the stable of ‘young, hungry, up-and-coming’ coaches, there’s a real perception of conflict of interest. And perception can be as damaging as reality.

OK Rosenior (seemingly) turned us down. It happens. But why weren’t two or three other coaches of the same Ilk being spoken to? No one had heard of Carlos Coberan before he went to Huddersfield, had they?
Rosenior didn't turn us down and Appleton was always first choice according to the owner.

*cough*
 
And this is a big part of the problem. It’s well-documented that Mr Mansford was his agent for the early part of his career.


In principle of course there’s nothing wrong with two people who’ve worked together in one capacity working together in another capacity. Happens all the time in the real world and can be a good way of ensuring compatibility etc.

However combined with the whiplash-inducing deviation from the stated ‘strategy’ and the fact that it seemed only Mr Rosenior was seriously considered from the stable of ‘young, hungry, up-and-coming’ coaches, there’s a real perception of conflict of interest. And perception can be as damaging as reality.

OK Rosenior (seemingly) turned us down. It happens. But why weren’t two or three other coaches of the same Ilk being spoken to? No one had heard of Carlos Coberan before he went to Huddersfield, had they?
You're right that perception can be as damaging as reality which is why it is self-defeating that so many of our fans keep raising this point, mostly in a snidey manner.
 
It is possible to be delighted with SS as an owner, and the investments he's making and job he's done so far, but also be very disappointed by MA's appointment. I think he's done a brilliant job and we couldn't have wished for better, I just think on this occasion the wrong decision's been made. It'll be up to MA to prove us wrong, and SS to enable him to do that by backing him. I hope we have a fantastic season even if I have big doubts! If I'm made to eat my words this time next year then I'll be one happy fan.
Good post The concern is its Simon Grayson Part Deux The decision is made now and for me we have to accept it and back him
 
I just don’t get that when it comes to players there’s a never go back, onwards and upwards attitude yet with managers it seems to be the preferred route.
I seem to recall that Sadler or maybe Mansford said they wanted us to play football the right way. I’ve not seen anything about Appletons style that indicates entertaining football is his natural style. Maybe they think he is the right person to keep us in the championship while all the other things get finalised in which case I really hope they’re right because we certainly need stability.
 
And this is a big part of the problem. It’s well-documented that Mr Mansford was his agent for the early part of his career.


In principle of course there’s nothing wrong with two people who’ve worked together in one capacity working together in another capacity. Happens all the time in the real world and can be a good way of ensuring compatibility etc.

However combined with the whiplash-inducing deviation from the stated ‘strategy’ and the fact that it seemed only Mr Rosenior was seriously considered from the stable of ‘young, hungry, up-and-coming’ coaches, there’s a real perception of conflict of interest. And perception can be as damaging as reality.

OK Rosenior (seemingly) turned us down. It happens. But why weren’t two or three other coaches of the same Ilk being spoken to? No one had heard of Carlos Coberan before he went to Huddersfield, had they?
With four people involved in the selection protest, then moving from the fact that one of those had previously worked with the selected candidate to saying that there is a conflict of interest (or a perception) is some jump.
 
At the end of the day SS makes the decisions. But I would be interested to see who was on the original long list that he whittled down. That would indicate the level of ambition of those who put it together, even if some of the names were unaffordable. Don't suppose that the Club would be willing to share it with the fans?
 
Have to say if I were Sadler I'd be a lot more questioning of just why I took the club on.

Promoted back to the Championship and stayed up comfortably - "yeah but it is 'boring' football.".

New training centre and ground development on the way, using £25-30m of own money to fund it with only a hope the money will come back - "Yeah but it isn't big enough, and I won't believe it until I see the last lick of paint dry".

Manager who we had been planning long term with leaves us in the lurch so we get an experienced manager in who is well regarded and wants to carry on the vision - "Yeah but he wasn't great for us and left after very few games when he worked here under the previous sh*those owners. I wanted someone else who played for us and talked to me once/didn't want to come/couldn't live with the parameters of the job/was someone but who the owner picked.".

This board is great at times, and I love that we debate player quality, managerial selection and even how the club is run but there is such a thing as perspective. If people really think SS has let this club down in any way or isn't working very hard to build success here then I don't know what to say. Nothing is perfect but I've seen nothing in SS but a local lad who has, and continues to, make a huge success with his company and who is using a large slice of his wealth to help build this club and this town up.

And as for Appleton he is our new manager. He has grown a lot in experience and success since the first spell. Can we at least give him until Christmas before deciding he is a failure. I'm not saying he gets a complete free pass but let's give the guy a fair go and expect good things rather than wish for bad.
If he’s let go at Christmas that’ll be an expensive sacking on a 4 year contract.
For our clubs sake I hope he’s successful.
Onwards and upwards🤞
 
Sadler makes the decisions, it is his money and his club - our job is to support the club.
All this appointment says to me is that Appleton was the best of the candidates when they were assessed by the board. Sadler doesn't tolerate losers or mediocrity - the way Grayson and McPhillips were dispatched tells you that. I trust this board to make good decisions and they have delivered on everything promised so far. Give Appleton a fair chance and see what happens - he is certainly aggressive enough. I wonder if Ashley Westwood is coming back - touchline scuffle at Palace with Holloway's staff was box office!
We need to stop the pointless negativity, it achieves nothing - get behind the new guy and see where it goes.
 
I won’t rip my season ticket up or not , not go to matches. Michael wasn’t my first choice or any choice lol
Maybe it’s what happened last time with him with me and with other fans , but at least he was honest then 🤷

He will have to convince me he is the right man , thst starts with results straight away and then style of play
He will have to be backed in the transfer market , not just cheap loans and kids , this squad could do with couple of quality experience players

UTMP 🧡🧡🧡
 
That write up reminds me a little bit of when Brett Gerrity went on an 'if you're not a multi-millionaire yourself you've got no right to question anything'-type offensive at one of the early fans meetings when the question was raised about covid ticket refunds and not leaving money in the club.

Appreciate we're in the gratitude era but people are still allowed to think and say things that aren't always on message.

At least Appleton's bagged us two quid off a ticket.
 
"We recognise though that Michael is not every Blackpool fan’s first choice as the next Head Coach. I think that it’s common knowledge that some of us at the Club keep an eye on social media and I must confess to being disappointed at the extent of some of the negativity that I’ve read with regards to Michael’s appointment. Given what this Club went through before I bought it, I’m confounded that some fans go as far to claim that they would consider ripping up or not buying season tickets because they are unhappy with our choice of Head Coach. Whilst I cannot guarantee outcomes, it is my responsibility as custodian of this great Club of ours to ensure that the right decisions are made for the right reasons for both the Club’s present and its future. I will not shirk that responsibility even if said decisions are not universally popular."

Quite a scathing response, but in fairness to him I'm sure it must be frustrating that fans doubt him despite everything he's done for the club.
Good to see him state the bit about his responsibility to make right decisions. I hope he remembers that if things don’t work out as he hopes.
 
Yea
Sadler makes the decisions, it is his money and his club - our job is to support the club.
All this appointment says to me is that Appleton was the best of the candidates when they were assessed by the board. Sadler doesn't tolerate losers or mediocrity - the way Grayson and McPhillips were dispatched tells you that. I trust this board to make good decisions and they have delivered on everything promised so far. Give Appleton a fair chance and see what happens - he is certainly aggressive enough. I wonder if Ashley Westwood is coming back - touchline scuffle at Palace with Holloway's staff was box office!
We need to stop the pointless negativity, it achieves nothing - get behind the new guy and see where it goes.
Ashley Westwood was most recently manager at RoundGlass Punjab!


Checked and it is a football club, not a Balti house
 
I’ll repeat what I posted yrsterday. “ A couple of wins at the start of the season, and it will be a love-in”
1-0 down at half time in the first game of the season and it will be apoplexy. And that wouldn’t be the case if they’d appointed a head coach in the mould they said they wanted…
 
I have to say the riposte comes across as a tad precious. What did he expect the reaction to be? Does he really think we are that naive we have not put 2 and 2 together that Ben Mansford was his agent? Are we not allowed to remember he was here for a month, during which time he said about 3 words and played football that was turgid, boring and laborious? (With Ollie’s squad no less).

This is not fans just wanting the World and a bag to put it in, it is valid reticence. It is also valid to say it goes against what was preached as recently as last week in Mansford’s interview. This manger is not young and dynamic. He has a bang average record over lower division management and arguably less success than Simon Grayson, who people raised a similar eyebrow too.

Yes, he is the owner and therefore does what he wants, but the backlash has not been isolated ‘hot heads’ who are never pleased. It is the people who pay to come in who are entitled to a view also. I am therefore of the view I am entitled to say that I think this is a retrograde appointment tainted by pseudo-nepotism. If I am wrong, that’s fine, but I can’t see this ending well.
 
All I know, is Appleton will need to hit the ground running. If he has a similar start to Critchley, no matter how much we think of Sadler, things will likely turn ugly. I just don't get it, I can't think of a single reason why we have appointed him, let alone on a 4yr deal! Madness.
 
I have to say the riposte comes across as a tad precious. What did he expect the reaction to be? Does he really think we are that naive we have not put 2 and 2 together that Ben Mansford was his agent? Are we not allowed to remember he was here for a month, during which time he said about 3 words and played football that was turgid, boring and laborious? (With Ollie’s squad no less).

This is not fans just wanting the World and a bag to put it in, it is valid reticence. It is also valid to say it goes against what was preached as recently as last week in Mansford’s interview. This manger is not young and dynamic. He has a bang average record over lower division management and arguably less success than Simon Grayson, who people raised a similar eyebrow too.

Yes, he is the owner and therefore does what he wants, but the backlash has not been isolated ‘hot heads’ who are never pleased. It is the people who pay to come in who are entitled to a view also. I am therefore of the view I am entitled to say that I think this is a retrograde appointment tainted by pseudo-nepotism. If I am wrong, that’s fine, but I can’t see this ending well.
He wasn't here anywhere near enough time to do anything last time.

Worked under some weird circumstances when we were a mess.

Hes grown and changed as a manager now, did well at Lincoln but lost to a side that just wins playoffs.

His second season he was fighting cancer.

Read these quotes.

“The fans will certainly have seen glimpses of what I tried to do in my days at Lincoln. I want to play aggressive, forward-thinking football and we have certain things that we want from the players when we’re playing, dependent on opposition clearly. We just want to be exciting and get people off their seats.”

Also on him last time working for us...

"You look at them now and they’re a totally different club,” rues Appleton, alluding to the Seasiders’ 2019 takeover which concluded 32 years of Oyston ownership. “I just made a poor judgement. I didn’t do proper research on the Oystons, particularly Karl, who to this day is the most difficult man I’ve ever worked with. I could never get hold of him, and he wasn’t willing to have sensible conversations. I found him to be very disrespectful, but I was in such a rush to get out of the environment I was in – and I could never be sure I’d keep my job at Portsmouth anyway, if new owners took charge of the club.”



A lot would have ran from BFC too under Karl....
 
It seems like a pragmatic choice to me.
He doesn't seem a good fit with the passionate, colourful and slightly bonkers support we have.
 
Like Simon

My commitment to this Club and our town is not contingent, it is unwavering

Fickle fans, I can’t believe some of you, as far as I am aware none of you were involved in the selection process and are judging on very limited evidence and willing to abandon your club based on this!

Well I’d rather not have you, your a bunch of self entitled whingers who I for one can do without!

Come on the Pool!
 
Agree with Simon 100%. Some of the so called fans do t deserve a football club to support
I feel sorry for Simon Sadler he’s done amazing since he came and rescued the club from the scumbags
I will always support BFC and the squad and manager
I under stand why Appleton left. Must have been awful working under the scum and I’m sure he will do much better this time around with decent players and a budget to improve the squad
Please give the new manager a fair crack at the whip and see how he does
Don’t be too hasty
 
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