Simon Sadler will be gutted

Fylde Seasider said:
Behave. I bet you believe in Santa Claus and the Tooth Fairy too!

Nothing is MUCH improved.

We are the first relegated team and there are other teams who have had points deducted. The training ground has been shelved! The stadium is 20+ years old. The "temporary stand" is 13 years old and due to be closed soon. The new stand hasn't got planning permission.

It is much like the past. Poor appointments, not listening to fan's concerns, pathetic on pitch performances due to lack of investment when More income has been available. An owner that isn't in tune with what is obvious to the whole fanbase. 🤦
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Weird post.

It's been a poor season but stands don't just pop up overnight, the plans are ongoing.

Look at squires Gate compared to what it was, it massively improved.

So because we made a mess of this season suddenly it's the same as the Oystons?

Fucks sake lol, some on here really aren’t very bright.

There are some big things they got wrong, some worrying things, but it's nothing like the times under the Oystons, they didn't care about the club.

That's all we've had from some, as soon as something goes wrong oh it's like under the Oystons 🙄

** bizarre attitude.
 
hertfordseasider said:
They were doing a post Mortimer on the pitch and one of the things Charlie said was that there were rumours Sadler wanted to sell the club.

I actually think this is a pivotal moment in the clubs history. SS has had 4 years finding his feet, he’s living here now and I hope he will have learnt a lot in those 4 years. We will know before a ball is kicked next season anyway and let’s hope it’s a really positive summer.
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That's Bob on.... I wouldn't lie to you....

It's probably just the same rumours the fans have heard given he's still in touch with us etc.

He's probably just passing on thr same ahite posted on here. May be true may be not, but it's unlikely it's some inside info.
 
JJpool said:
Weird post.

It's been a poor season but stands don't just pop up overnight, the plans are ongoing.

Look at squires Gate compared to what it was, it massively improved.

So because we made a mess of this season suddenly it's the same as the Oystons?

Fucks sake lol, some on here really aren’t very bright.

There are some big things they got wrong, some worrying things, but it's nothing like the times under the Oystons, they didn't care about the club.

That's all we've had from some, as soon as something goes wrong oh it's like under the Oystons 🙄

** bizarre attitude.
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You're not on Facebook, just call me what you want, you won't get banned!

I am actually quite bright. Not going to stick my head over the parapet and flex but suffice to say I'm high IQ. I've lots of experience in certain fields and have a lot of common sense and nous so keep telling me how rosy things are.

Things are not good at the moment fellow Seasider! Watch what happens in the intervening weeks and months.
 
Fylde Seasider said:
You're not on Facebook, just call me what you want, you won't get banned!

I am actually quite bright. Not going to stick my head over the parapet and flex but suffice to say I'm high IQ. I've lots of experience in certain fields and have a lot of common sense and nous so keep telling me how rosy things are.

Things are not good at the moment fellow Seasider! Watch what happens in the intervening weeks and months.
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I posted what I wanted in that post thanks.

If youre that bright surely you’d see some of the advancements.

Yes there's been a lot of mistakes and some odd decisions and the club need to put things right, prices, key decisions etc.

But sometimes people make stupid statements like it's just like under the Oystons and it's really not.

Look at the pitch ffs, it's like a carpet now.

It was a bloody ploughed field under the stains, we were a joke of a club.
 
JJpool said:
I posted what I wanted in that post thanks.

If youre that bright surely you’d see some of the advancements.

Yes there's been a lot of mistakes and some odd decisions and the club need to put things right, prices, key decisions etc.

But sometimes people make stupid statements like it's just like under the Oystons and it's really not.

Look at the pitch ffs, it's like a carpet now.

It was a bloody ploughed field under the stains, we were a joke of a club.
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What did the Romans ever do for us? 🤦🤣
 
JJpool said:
Well, exactly, apart from all the improvements he's made, WTF has he done.
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What improvements? In over 30 years of Oystons they took us over in the 3rd tier, left us in the 3rd tier, built the stadium to what it is now. Sadler took us over in the 3rd tier we are still 3rd tier, same stadium that is a few years older. Same training ground that is a few years older. But the pitch is a bit better,the ticket prices are more expensive, the players aren't much better, the managers are still terrible.

What's improved again? 🤷
 
Fylde Seasider said:
What improvements? In over 30 years of Oystons they took us over in the 3rd tier, left us in the 3rd tier, built the stadium to what it is now. Sadler took us over in the 3rd tier we are still 3rd tier, same stadium that is a few years older. Same training ground that is a few years older. But the pitch is a bit better,the ticket prices are more expensive, the players aren't much better, the managers are still terrible.

What's improved again? 🤷
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🤣

Once again, I'll list some of them.

Sadlers been here what, 5 years?

The pitch is night and day, that requires investment.

You seriously can't see any improvements in this...

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Jesus Christ lol..... I recommend specsavers.

The TG is far better, when Appleton arrived he'd seen them both and said as much, there's been investment there to get it up to a more respectable level until the other gets going. The pitches are better, the buildings far better etc.

The stadium has had tons of little improvements and fixes. It was falling apart and rusty remember.

The structure in things like staff we have in place is far better and more advanced, far more professional. Like a proper club.

We didn't have enough players to put a team out for friendlies in summer under the stains. We are at least signing some talent under Sadler overall, look at the signings in league 1, Jerry etc, promotion season, some of them in the championship. Yes it all went a bit wrong this time, but overall we try and build a competitive squad.

Are you denying any of the above?

As I said poor mistakes have been made but it's not comparable to the past.

They need to put it right and learn from the mistakes of this season.
 
AngelBFC said:
He’s a Blackpool fan .

He will feel exactly the same pain as we do.

He will be wracked with “what if’s.” He knows mistakes have been made .

He’s a genuine passionate owner who wants what’s best for the club.

Comments on other threads suggesting what’s happened is unforgiveable is a complete overreaction . He still has lots of credit in my eyes for what he’s done for the club so far .

Clubs get relegated. It happens it’s not the end of the world but at least we have someone who will be desperate to put it right.

You could see his pain at the end of the game

Now is the time to stick together to get our great club back on track .
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Why will he be gutted?

It’s his actions that has relegated us?
 
JJpool said:
🤣

Once again, I'll list some of them.

Sadlers been here what, 5 years?

The pitch is night and day, that requires investment.

You seriously can't see any improvements in this...

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Jesus Christ lol..... I recommend specsavers.

The TG is far better, when Appleton arrived he'd seen them both and said as much, there's been investment there to get it up to a more respectable level until the other gets going. The pitches are better, the buildings far better etc.

The stadium has had tons of little improvements and fixes. It was falling apart and rusty remember.

The structure in things like staff we have in place is far better and more advanced, far more professional. Like a proper club.

We didn't have enough players to put a team out for friendlies in summer under the stains. We are at least signing some talent under Sadler overall, look at the signings in league 1, Jerry etc, promotion season, some of them in the championship. Yes it all went a bit wrong this time, but overall we try and build a competitive squad.

Are you denying any of the above?

As I said poor mistakes have been made but it's not comparable to the past.

They need to put it right and learn from the mistakes of this season.
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“We try and build a competitive squad” is a lie.

Sadler & the board accepted relegation before a ball was kicked this season. Either that or he wanted to mug the fans off.
 
JJpool said:
🤣

Once again, I'll list some of them.

Sadlers been here what, 5 years?

The pitch is night and day, that requires investment.

You seriously can't see any improvements in this...

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Jesus Christ lol..... I recommend specsavers.

The TG is far better, when Appleton arrived he'd seen them both and said as much, there's been investment there to get it up to a more respectable level until the other gets going. The pitches are better, the buildings far better etc.

The stadium has had tons of little improvements and fixes. It was falling apart and rusty remember.

The structure in things like staff we have in place is far better and more advanced, far more professional. Like a proper club.

We didn't have enough players to put a team out for friendlies in summer under the stains. We are at least signing some talent under Sadler overall, look at the signings in league 1, Jerry etc, promotion season, some of them in the championship. Yes it all went a bit wrong this time, but overall we try and build a competitive squad.

Are you denying any of the above?

As I said poor mistakes have been made but it's not comparable to the past.

They need to put it right and learn from the mistakes of this season.
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Ever considered a job in public relations in North Korea? 🤦🤣
 
Fylde Seasider said:
Ever considered a job in public relations in North Korea? 🤦🤣
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You clearly see what you want to see.

The fact is I've listed some of the improvements, all genuine.

I've said this season's been a shitshow, silly bad mistakes which we need to learn from, but nowhere near the stains level.
 
JJpool said:
You clearly see what you want to see.

The fact is I've listed some of the improvements, all genuine.

I've said this season's been a shitshow, silly bad mistakes which we need to learn from, but nowhere near the stains level.
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Spin it round 180⁰.

You clearly see what you want to see.

Yes there have been improvements but there are also some things that are worse hence why we are now a 3rd division club, the first relegated even though others have had points deducted.

I'm not comparing us to the Oystains in every respect. They were vile human beings, Sadler is no doubt a good man and has good intentions . . . but we go back to us being a 3rd division team with a training ground which is substandard for a EFL team. The ground and pitch need constant investment that's a given. 🤷

To say we are now run like a proper football club doesn't cut it. It is embarrassing and amateurish how the off field things have been run.
 
I’m a fan of pubs - doesn’t mean I’d be any good at running one!🤪

The ONLY similarity between SS and the O’s is ownership of BFC - after that there is none. NONE.

And anyone who says otherwise is just plain wrong,

He is the ‘money’. He needs proper football people to run the club (look at Wrexham).

That has been sadly underperforming and needs to changed. That he’s let that go for too long is my only criticism.

New CEO, New Sport/Football Director, New manager, Some new blood in the squad and - we will be back.

Long term - assuming all current plans proceed - the future is bright; the future is TANGERINE🍊
 
ItsGrimUpNorth said:
“We try and build a competitive squad” is a lie.

Sadler & the board accepted relegation before a ball was kicked this season. Either that or he wanted to mug the fans off.
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They didn't accept relegation, they hoped we do far better given we stayed up comfortably.

A lot on here were fairly happy with the business by the end of the window.

What did Callum Wright cost, it was rumoured to be around 700k. Got some decent talent in loans in.

As I've said the summer window went wrong in not strengthening the spine adequately and they've found it difficult, targets went elsewhere. They tried for Brannagan, Simms etc.

Sadly wages here make it very hard when agents present their client woth a Championship club offering double.

They picked an awful appointment in Appleton, should have known better. The relegation is on the decisions made, the window and awful injury luck. Too many injury prone players on the books too.

Mistakes were made and need to be learned from, doesn't mean it was intentional.
 
Roy Kent said:
I’m a fan of pubs - doesn’t mean I’d be any good at running one!🤪

The ONLY similarity between SS and the O’s is ownership of BFC - after that there is none. NONE.

And anyone who says otherwise is just plain wrong,

He is the ‘money’. He needs proper football people to run the club (look at Wrexham).

That has been sadly underperforming and needs to changed. That he’s let that go for too long is my only criticism.

New CEO, New Sport/Football Director, New manager, Some new blood in the squad and - we will be back.

Long term - assuming all current plans proceed - the future is bright; the future is TANGERINE🍊
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Ironically Wrexham fans do nothing but slag off the ‘football people’ brought into their club. It’s almost like they know nothing about what they actually do … a bit like …
 
TKL_Seasider said:
Ironically Wrexham fans do nothing but slag off the ‘football people’ brought into their club. It’s almost like they know nothing about what they actually do … a bit like …
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Promotion vs relegation? No comparison really

What is the point you are making?
 
Fylde Seasider said:
Spin it round 180⁰.

You clearly see what you want to see.

Yes there have been improvements but there are also some things that are worse hence why we are now a 3rd division club, the first relegated even though others have had points deducted.

I'm not comparing us to the Oystains in every respect. They were vile human beings, Sadler is no doubt a good man and has good intentions . . . but we go back to us being a 3rd division team with a training ground which is substandard for a EFL team. The ground and pitch need constant investment that's a given. 🤷

To say we are now run like a proper football club doesn't cut it. It is embarrassing and amateurish how the off field things have been run.
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Ahh so now there are improvements when you said there wasn't any. OK 👍 Glad to see I am correct.

There's nothing worse than under the Oystons, we'd have been relegated in no time in the modern championship under their ownership. The league is far richer and clubs losing a ridiculous amount to go nowhere.

We're relegated because we played first, but yes we haven't had a points deduction and for most the season we're an absolute shambles.

Sadler and co at least tried to make changes, brought in the cov lads who everyone praised as s shrewd move at the time, changed the manager although got it wrong again, looks like Badlan picked McCarthy.

How much did Bowler cost to bring back, considering he cost Olympiacos 2m for the season?

Since he took over we've had a feeling out season, a promotion, stayed up comfortably, gone down really poorly. Mistakes have been made, you admit some improvements made, clearly we need to learn from what happened, but surely he's got some credit in the bank.

We got promoted a bit ahead of time really, in an ideal world we'd have had the new east up, got promoted with fans in attendance as that leads to many casuals attending the following season, they're on the system so can get past the previous purchase history for big games.

Sadlers next moves will tell us a lot and hopefully we try and put right what has gone wrong.
 
AngelBFC said:
He’s a Blackpool fan .

He will feel exactly the same pain as we do.

He will be wracked with “what if’s.” He knows mistakes have been made .

He’s a genuine passionate owner who wants what’s best for the club.

Comments on other threads suggesting what’s happened is unforgiveable is a complete overreaction . He still has lots of credit in my eyes for what he’s done for the club so far .

Clubs get relegated. It happens it’s not the end of the world but at least we have someone who will be desperate to put it right.

You could see his pain at the end of the game

Now is the time to stick together to get our great club back on track .
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Great post. Mistakes have been made, however we are lucky to have Sadler.
 
SlaveToTheRythm said:
Were lucky to have a fan as an owner. Even more fortunate to have someone who bought the club in its hour of need.

But he needs to flick through his HK phone book and get the Hedgies and Big Fund boys involved. I cant believe he cant sell Blackpool to the Saudis, Chinese or similar. And if he cant, get him to DM me.
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Do you really want our club to be a mere play thing for a mega rich Chinese, Saudi,Arab Indian clomgomerate ?
If so it is no longer OUR club.
 
APOLOGIES BUT THIS IS A LONG POST!!!

Let's be realistic. You can't compare Sadler to the vermin because the vermin were just really horrible, conniving scum bags and we and VB had to do everything we could to get rid of them and rightly so.

I will say that even right up to their departure there were supporters who didn't want them to leave, which is incredible and prior to that it took decades for supporters to turn against them even though it was blindingly obvious what they were up to from early days and I remember being one of a few supporters who were pilloried for speaking out against them.

Sadler did not save the club, he bought it. Foolish? probably, a time and a place, a bit of vanity, a bit of boyhood excitement, a bit on naivety? Probably. But he is a businessman, used to investing, it's what he does, it's what he is successful at, so he will have done plenty of due dillicence and got all the ducks in a row and would know the financial task ahead of him. We all knew the club was in a terrible state of affairs and in terrible condition with a pitch not fit for purpose. He knew the squad was not good enough and the manager not up to scratch so he wasn't walking into his new business venture with a blindfold on.

That's all fine so we can say that he has made the cosmetic changes needed, the pitch is now superb, the training ground improved and that is all great, but they were things he knew had to be done and would have budgeted for that and then into account in the amount he paid for the club.

I have no doubt the East stand will be built along with the Revoe project, it's something that had to be done and again, he would have known that when he bought the club. Again, all good. The training ground was another thing he knew was a bug bear and one that the vermin should have done years ago, so again it would all of been there in front of him before he bought the club and again, I have no doubt it will get done. Not as quickly as we all hoped, but I presume something will happen in the future. All the above will have been carefully considered before buying the club and if done properly would add value to the club and his investment.

Then we go onto the football side and this is where things change. He openly admitted he hadn't got a clue how to run a football club, that is something he can't do due diligence on, it's a learning curve and just because he bought the club and knows how to do the business side of things doesn't mean he will know what to do with getting a manager, getting a squad of players in etc., so his priority decision was to get a Top diddly top CEO who could take all the pressure off him and also teach him the ropes, so he takes on Mansford and also his friend Brett Gerrity, a through and through Blackpool supporter and his eyes on the ground whilst he is in Hong Kong, but not a football man.

First managerial appointment is Larry, was seen as underwhelming by most but the rationale was there, a safe pair of hands, sadly he was yesterdays man and he struggled and was not here long. The search went on and after some failed attempts to get the managers they wanted they landed on Critchley, a risk but a risk that was actually quite exciting, a Klopp protégée, highly qualified and though of in the game but no football league managerial experience. The vision was to invest in a style of play, a recruitment policy and for a long term project and hey, it worked. Sadler supported him in the transfer window and we had a decent league 1 team and after a shaky start we ended up being the best team in League 1 even though we had to go up via our usual route. All done through Covid which he financed and we end up in the Championship, happy days. A summer transfer window brings in more good players and although the style of football changed to adapt to the better quality of football we held our own but as the season progressed we suddenly had a terrible transfer window and instead of getting in the players who maybe could have pushed us to the play offs things changed and we struggled and the football was getting much more difficult to watch, but still we ended up a very safe 16th but doubts were starting to creep in.

June 2022 and we are all looking forward to a busy transfer window with new, better players coming in and Critchley improving his tactics after being rewarded with a long term contract to see it through. all looks good and then...... He's gone, no warning, no goodbye, gone. Sadler & Mansford totally unprepared so the hunt for a manager starts and what a fuck up that was!! We end up with all people, Michael Appleton even though there were cries from the rooftops that this was a massive mistake, he wasn't wanted by the supporters, it was a match made in hell but instead of listening they went ahead and did it anyway and when the supporters made their feelings known their response was a swipe back at their customers in an arrogant and condescending way, things were changing. The transfer window was a disaster and we lost our defensive lynchpin. The season just lurched from bad to worse, there didn't seem to be a budget for Championship quality players, we were being turned down by players who would rather play in the league below. Eventually MA was hounded out and then the biggest fuck up of all.... Mick McSaurus! That was the final nail in this seasons coffin. Rumours that Sadler wanted to sell the club, meetings in the Armfield, the sacking of our director of football, Gerrity resigning and relegation.

When you look at it like that, Sadler has done what needed to be done, steadied the ship after the rats were exterminated and done the cosmetic things that needed doing. A couple of good seasons, one very good and then something changed around January 2022. Maybe it is time for a clearcut, and it is being forced on him whether he wanted it or not. I can't see Mansford surviving this season so he has a couple of months to restructure the board, appoint a new manager and coach and sign a shed load of players. Sounds like a nightmare for him, but we will be more comfortable in League 1 and if done properly a fresh start and a full season could ensure we start going in the right direction and moving upwards again. The budget for players is what worries me so a really good CEO and a Director of Football (Ex manager) would be ideal. If Sadler wants us to push on but can't fund it then maybe an investor or indeed he may look to sell the club,

The next 12 months is pivotal, so good luck Simon.
 
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Phil_bfc deux said:
I don't think I can ever remember him at a game until he bought the club

He's only a few years older than me and I've been home and away for nearly 40 years

Just saying ..
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What an utterly non-sensical statement to make. So, prior to him taking on ownership of the club, what, might I ask, would be your reason for thinking you would have expected to remember seeing him at a game? One face amongst thousands... Bizarre.
 
JJpool said:
They didn't accept relegation, they hoped we do far better given we stayed up comfortably.

A lot on here were fairly happy with the business by the end of the window.

What did Callum Wright cost, it was rumoured to be around 700k. Got some decent talent in loans in.

As I've said the summer window went wrong in not strengthening the spine adequately and they've found it difficult, targets went elsewhere. They tried for Brannagan, Simms etc.

Sadly wages here make it very hard when agents present their client woth a Championship club offering double.

They picked an awful appointment in Appleton, should have known better. The relegation is on the decisions made, the window and awful injury luck. Too many injury prone players on the books too.

Mistakes were made and need to be learned from, doesn't mean it was intentional.
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So if they didn’t accept relegation - they just decide to hardly spend a penny in our second season in the most competitive league in the world.

Sound.
 
ItsGrimUpNorth said:
So if they didn’t accept relegation - they just decide to hardly spend a penny in our second season in the most competitive league in the world.

Sound.
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I've called out that before.

I believe figures were presented to people who went to that last meeting and he's putting money in.

I would have liked to have seen some mote investment in the team, but equally I don't know exactly whats been spent.

I've said before we could use monies earned and get a Championship spine with the Critchley money and Bowler money.

Mistakes were made and things could have been done differently clearly.

Hold them to account yes but let's not lose our minds.
 
JJpool said:
I've called out that before.

I believe figures were presented to people who went to that last meeting and he's putting money in.

I would have liked to have seen some mote investment in the team, but equally I don't know exactly whats been spent.

I've said before we could use monies earned and get a Championship spine with the Critchley money and Bowler money.

Mistakes were made and things could have been done differently clearly.

Hold them to account yes but let's not lose our minds.
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If Oyston had received roughly 5 million and only spent around 1 million of it - we’d all be in uproar.

But it’s OK, Simon Sadler can as he pleases alongside his board of merry men.

Ben Mansford is on more a week than our highest paid players so don’t spin me that spiel of investment etc. The money is there - but he’d rather give it to a solicitor.
 
When the Oystons pissed down our backs, everyone knew it wasn't raining at least. I don't know whether SS shit a brick following the Covid season balance sheet. Fair enough if he did but to blatantly neglect the playing side and turn out a profit in the latest set of figures is not a good look! Comparisons being drawn is inevitable.

And why, oh why, is Fleetwood being allowed to grow their club into traditional Blackpool supporting areas - Thornton and Poulton for example?
 
I don't know of any successful business that hasn't made mistakes or failed at some point. The ones that survive are the ones that learn from those mistakes.
Simon Sadler is a brilliant business man but has no football background other than being a fan. Neither did Brett. Ben Mansford did well at his previous club but has certainly become the fall guy here.
There is simply no football experience or wise heads at the club to advise an owner who has never done this before. Simon needs to find the right people to advise about on the pitch matters- and he needs to listen. He needs to accept that he needs help and cannot do this alone.
The club is miles ahead of where it was last time we were in League One. Along with Tim, I was one of the first people through those doors when the Os were removed and it was far, far worse than anything we had imagined. We came much closer to losing the club than I want to think about. So much ground work has been done (mainly infrastructure) that most people haven't seen or realised needed doing, but it was vital if we were to have any kind of future.
If we can now get the right manager (and for me, that's Dobbie), get some football people on the Board to advise Simon and crack on with proper recruitment we will find we're on the path we should have been on in the first place. Relegation this time is disappointing, it hurts, but it's not terminal.
There's no shame in making mistakes, only in not learning from them . Onward and UPWARD 🍊👊
 
ItsGrimUpNorth said:
If Oyston had received roughly 5 million and only spent around 1 million of it - we’d all be in uproar.

But it’s OK, Simon Sadler can as he pleases alongside his board of merry men.

Ben Mansford is on more a week than our highest paid players so don’t spin me that spiel of investment etc. The money is there - but he’d rather give it to a solicitor.
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How do you know that's what he spent?

Did you attened the recent meeting?

It'll all be revealed in the next accounts.

How much did the loans cost?

Provide me with all the info and we can discuss it.

More probably should have been done and certainly spent wiser. But you don't know the actual facts.

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When the Oystons pissed down our backs, everyone knew it wasn't raining at least. I don't know whether SS shit a brick following the Covid season balance sheet. Fair enough if he did but to blatantly neglect the playing side and turn out a profit in the latest set of figures is not a good look! Comparisons being drawn is inevitable.

And why, oh why, is Fleetwood being allowed to grow their club into traditional Blackpool supporting areas - Thornton and Poulton for example?
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Didn't SS put money in to be able to make that small profit?

@Ball on Fire
 
JJpool said:
Didn't SS put money in to be able to make that small profit?

@Ball on Fire
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His club, he can do what he wants. I can do and think what I want. As I said, it's not a good look. Ultimately it's not good business as the penny pinching on the playing side has cost much more than the small profit made over one season.
 
JJpool said:
Ahh so now there are improvements when you said there wasn't any. OK 👍 Glad to see I am correct.

There's nothing worse than under the Oystons, we'd have been relegated in no time in the modern championship under their ownership. The league is far richer and clubs losing a ridiculous amount to go nowhere.

We're relegated because we played first, but yes we haven't had a points deduction and for most the season we're an absolute shambles.

Sadler and co at least tried to make changes, brought in the cov lads who everyone praised as s shrewd move at the time, changed the manager although got it wrong again, looks like Badlan picked McCarthy.

How much did Bowler cost to bring back, considering he cost Olympiacos 2m for the season?

Since he took over we've had a feeling out season, a promotion, stayed up comfortably, gone down really poorly. Mistakes have been made, you admit some improvements made, clearly we need to learn from what happened, but surely he's got some credit in the bank.

We got promoted a bit ahead of time really, in an ideal world we'd have had the new east up, got promoted with fans in attendance as that leads to many casuals attending the following season, they're on the system so can get past the previous purchase history for big games.

Sadlers next moves will tell us a lot and hopefully we try and put right what has gone wrong.
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Keep taking the meds!
 
ItsGrimUpNorth said:
If Oyston had received roughly 5 million and only spent around 1 million of it - we’d all be in uproar.

But it’s OK, Simon Sadler can as he pleases alongside his board of merry men.

Ben Mansford is on more a week than our highest paid players so don’t spin me that spiel of investment etc. The money is there - but he’d rather give it to a solicitor.
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Where to start with your post?

Ben Mansford is not earning more than our highest paid player. Sadler has had to cover the loss in all seasons he’s owned the club. He has not made a profit.
 
He paid bottom of the division wages and we finish bottom of the division after being the pundits pre-season pick to be relegated this season. He’s not gutted. He made no effort to retain championship status.
 
TimperleyTangerine said:
The appointment of MA wasn’t what we needed, but let’s be clear, it was the appointment of MM that killed us. The guy had 19 games I think and he buried us. With the type of players we had, MM was never the right choice. It’s difficult to fathom the thought process of those involved in the decision making. Naive and amateur in terms of understanding the game, where we were and what we needed.

Simon is I’m sure a proud man and a very successful businessman. He will have learned much and if he genuinely wants to keep the club, he needs to hold his hands up. He also needs to get rid of BM. At that point the blame game stops and we start to look forward. It’s important that happens quickly.

We’ve been in much worse situations and we’ve got to learn as a club and look forward. What hurts the most is that I feel we had a good enough squad, even with the injuries. We’ve just had the wrong people in post. It’s history now.
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Nope, not realising MA was a mistake and acting sooner is what killed us. MM was just another bad decision but the damage was done in that a change should have been made in Nov.
 
Theoneandonly said:
He paid bottom of the division wages and we finish bottom of the division after being the pundits pre-season pick to be relegated this season. He’s not gutted. He made no effort to retain championship status.
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The squad was good enough for Championship survival

However the managerial issues and injuries were the problem
 
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