Simon Sadler will be gutted

rockontommy said:
When the Oystons pissed down our backs, everyone knew it wasn't raining at least. I don't know whether SS shit a brick following the Covid season balance sheet. Fair enough if he did but to blatantly neglect the playing side and turn out a profit in the latest set of figures is not a good look! Comparisons being drawn is inevitable.

And why, oh why, is Fleetwood being allowed to grow their club into traditional Blackpool supporting areas - Thornton and Poulton for example?
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The club definitely needs to engage with the community, my lad brought a Fleetwood pal to the game last night and he loved the atmosphere. Promote the club across the Fylde and get the feel good back💪
 
AngelBFC said:
The squad was good enough for Championship survival

However the managerial issues and injuries were the problem
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Funniest post of the day. It wasn't good enough for Championship survival though was it????? We paid the lowest wages, we made a balls up of player and managerial recruitment and those facts not opinions. When you earn plaudits take a bow you earned them. When you make a balls up, own your mistakes, learn from them and go again.
 
Theoneandonly said:
Funniest post of the day. It wasn't good enough for Championship survival though was it????? We paid the lowest wages, we made a balls up of player and managerial recruitment and those facts not opinions. When you earn plaudits take a bow you earned them. When you make a balls up, own your mistakes, learn from them and go again.
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The squad was good enough

They weren’t managed properly.

When you have a manager expecting Josh Bowler as an example to be a tough tackling midfielder you are going to struggle

The managerial appointments were the balls up

The squad was good enough to survive .

Dobbie showed us that. With the benefit of hindsight he should have been appointed instead of McCarthy

The fault lies imo with the Sporting Director. He should have told the board not to appoint McCarthy under any circs as his tactics would not work with the players we had. Maybe he did I don’t know but I doubt it.

Again tbf to him hindsight is a wonderful thing
 
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Fylde Seasider said:
Love your optimism! Same training ground as what Stanley Matthews used. Expensive ticket prices, cheap managerial appointments, players like Colby Bishop and Brannagan in lower leagues spurning us! 🤦
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The training ground pitches have been upgraded and are in very good condition. Also the facilities for the players are of good quality including a recently installed gymnasiu.
 
AngelBFC said:
The squad was good enough

They weren’t managed properly.

When you have a manager expecting Josh Bowler as an example to be a tough tackling midfielder you are going to struggle

The managerial appointments were the balls up

The squad was good enough to survive .

Dobbie showed us that. With the benefit of hindsight he should have been appointed instead of McCarthy

The fault lies imo with the Sporting Director. He should have told the board not to appoint McCarthy under any circs as his tactics would not work with the players we had. Maybe he did I don’t know but I doubt it.

Again tbf to him hindsight is a wonderful thing
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Hindsight has nothing to do with it. You hire a manager who shares your sentiments and who can get the best from the players you do have. You have contingency plans for manager/player upheavals because “life” happens and you pivot not watch a guy flounder for 14 games. Where was data or common sense employed this season? From the get go this season we were as the pundits all pointed out destined for relegation. It didn’t have to be that way.
 
Theoneandonly said:
Hindsight has nothing to do with it. You hire a manager who shares your sentiments and who can get the best from the players you do have. You have contingency plans for manager/player upheavals because “life” happens and you pivot not watch a guy flounder for 14 games. Where was data or common sense employed this season? From the get go this season we were as the pundits all pointed out destined for relegation. It didn’t have to be that way.
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The players were good enough

The managers were not

You seem to be accepting this
 
AngelBFC said:
He’s a Blackpool fan .

He will feel exactly the same pain as we do.

He will be wracked with “what if’s.” He knows mistakes have been made .

He’s a genuine passionate owner who wants what’s best for the club.

Comments on other threads suggesting what’s happened is unforgiveable is a complete overreaction . He still has lots of credit in my view for what he’s done for the club so far .

Clubs get relegated. It happens it’s not the end of the world but at least we have someone who will be desperate to put it right.

You could see his pain at the end of the game

Now is the time to stick together to get our great club back on track .
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But it is all down to him and some horrendous decisions in both manager recruitment and the transfer market!
 
AngelBFC said:
The players were good enough

The managers were not

You seem to be accepting this
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No. Our player stats, and abject failure to produce consistently under three managers as well as our league position over a season clearly shows ill-suited to the task at hand. On paper there was a gambler’s chance it could have worked, but injury prone players don’t just suddenly become healthy and consistent do they?
 
hertfordseasider said:
APOLOGIES BUT THIS IS A LONG POST!!!

Let's be realistic. You can't compare Sadler to the vermin because the vermin were just really horrible, conniving scum bags and we and VB had to do everything we could to get rid of them and rightly so.

I will say that even right up to their departure there were supporters who didn't want them to leave, which is incredible and prior to that it took decades for supporters to turn against them even though it was blindingly obvious what they were up to from early days and I remember being one of a few supporters who were pilloried for speaking out against them.

Sadler did not save the club, he bought it. Foolish? probably, a time and a place, a bit of vanity, a bit of boyhood excitement, a bit on naivety? Probably. But he is a businessman, used to investing, it's what he does, it's what he is successful at, so he will have done plenty of due dillicence and got all the ducks in a row and would know the financial task ahead of him. We all knew the club was in a terrible state of affairs and in terrible condition with a pitch not fit for purpose. He knew the squad was not good enough and the manager not up to scratch so he wasn't walking into his new business venture with a blindfold on.

That's all fine so we can say that he has made the cosmetic changes needed, the pitch is now superb, the training ground improved and that is all great, but they were things he knew had to be done and would have budgeted for that and then into account in the amount he paid for the club.

I have no doubt the East stand will be built along with the Revoe project, it's something that had to be done and again, he would have known that when he bought the club. Again, all good. The training ground was another thing he knew was a bug bear and one that the vermin should have done years ago, so again it would all of been there in front of him before he bought the club and again, I have no doubt it will get done. Not as quickly as we all hoped, but I presume something will happen in the future. All the above will have been carefully considered before buying the club and if done properly would add value to the club and his investment.

Then we go onto the football side and this is where things change. He openly admitted he hadn't got a clue how to run a football club, that is something he can't do due diligence on, it's a learning curve and just because he bought the club and knows how to do the business side of things doesn't mean he will know what to do with getting a manager, getting a squad of players in etc., so his priority decision was to get a Top diddly top CEO who could take all the pressure off him and also teach him the ropes, so he takes on Mansford and also his friend Brett Gerrity, a through and through Blackpool supporter and his eyes on the ground whilst he is in Hong Kong, but not a football man.

First managerial appointment is Larry, was seen as underwhelming by most but the rationale was there, a safe pair of hands, sadly he was yesterdays man and he struggled and was not here long. The search went on and after some failed attempts to get the managers they wanted they landed on Critchley, a risk but a risk that was actually quite exciting, a Klopp protégée, highly qualified and though of in the game but no football league managerial experience. The vision was to invest in a style of play, a recruitment policy and for a long term project and hey, it worked. Sadler supported him in the transfer window and we had a decent league 1 team and after a shaky start we ended up being the best team in League 1 even though we had to go up via our usual route. All done through Covid which he financed and we end up in the Championship, happy days. A summer transfer window brings in more good players and although the style of football changed to adapt to the better quality of football we held our own but as the season progressed we suddenly had a terrible transfer window and instead of getting in the players who maybe could have pushed us to the play offs things changed and we struggled and the football was getting much more difficult to watch, but still we ended up a very safe 16th but doubts were starting to creep in.

June 2022 and we are all looking forward to a busy transfer window with new, better players coming in and Critchley improving his tactics after being rewarded with a long term contract to see it through. all looks good and then...... He's gone, no warning, no goodbye, gone. Sadler & Mansford totally unprepared so the hunt for a manager starts and what a fuck up that was!! We end up with all people, Michael Appleton even though there were cries from the rooftops that this was a massive mistake, he wasn't wanted by the supporters, it was a match made in hell but instead of listening they went ahead and did it anyway and when the supporters made their feelings known their response was a swipe back at their customers in an arrogant and condescending way, things were changing. The transfer window was a disaster and we lost our defensive lynchpin. The season just lurched from bad to worse, there didn't seem to be a budget for Championship quality players, we were being turned down by players who would rather play in the league below. Eventually MA was hounded out and then the biggest fuck up of all.... Mick McSaurus! That was the final nail in this seasons coffin. Rumours that Sadler wanted to sell the club, meetings in the Armfield, the sacking of our director of football, Gerrity resigning and relegation.

When you look at it like that, Sadler has done what needed to be done, steadied the ship after the rats were exterminated and done the cosmetic things that needed doing. A couple of good seasons, one very good and then something changed around January 2022. Maybe it is time for a clearcut, and it is being forced on him whether he wanted it or not. I can't see Mansford surviving this season so he has a couple of months to restructure the board, appoint a new manager and coach and sign a shed load of players. Sounds like a nightmare for him, but we will be more comfortable in League 1 and if done properly a fresh start and a full season could ensure we start going in the right direction and moving upwards again. The budget for players is what worries me so a really good CEO and a Director of Football (Ex manager) would be ideal. If Sadler wants us to push on but can't fund it then maybe an investor or indeed he may look to sell the club,

The next 12 months is pivotal, so good luck Simon.
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And look at the time that was wasted in appointing a new manager, when the time could have been spent on improving thr squad. It took three interviews to end up with Appleton!
 
Fylde Seasider said:
What improvements? In over 30 years of Oystons they took us over in the 3rd tier, left us in the 3rd tier, built the stadium to what it is now. Sadler took us over in the 3rd tier we are still 3rd tier, same stadium that is a few years older. Same training ground that is a few years older. But the pitch is a bit better,the ticket prices are more expensive, the players aren't much better, the managers are still terrible.

What's improved again? 🤷
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In response to your rather rose-tinted view of the Oystons' 30yr reign at BFC, and 'all' the benefits we supposedly reaped during those halcyon days, can I just point out that SS has been installed as owner for a far shorter period of time and that as a club we are still very much 'a work in progress'. Lest you forget, Rome wasn't built... blah, blah, blah.
 
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