Simple way to end the ‘Pandemic’...

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Adams Kebab

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From tomorrow, just stop the mass testing. We are testing over a million a day, hence why we have cases rising. Hospitalisations are fine, deaths aren’t a concern & Covid is now 24th in the list of deaths in the UK. We are looking for ‘cases’ which are not sick people, just a positive result.

Close down the majority of Test Centres that usually have about 10+ staff in Hi-Viz ‘working’ there, would love to see the costings of them and then revert to a pretty simple policy, you only get a test if you have symptoms of the virus which doesn’t include hayfever symptoms which has suddenly appeared as a symptom, almost magically.

You then don’t advertise for people to come forward with no symptoms of a virus you want them to be tested for, you simply say that if you have symptoms you book a test and isolate until you have a test that’s negative. Once you are negative you free to be out and about.

You do not tell people with no symptoms who have had ‘close contact’ or happened to be in a pub in a 7 hour timeframe to isolate unless they have any symptoms.

If you do the above, life gets back to normal.

A million tests you know!? This is before we discuss the reliability of the PCR test.

A ‘Go Compare’ with the rest of Europe and we are world leading on testing, by hundreds of thousands! It really needs to be knocked on the head all of the above, 250,000 kids in isolation at the moment missing school, I’ll bet anyone that 250,000 kids all return to school fit and healthy.

Remember when Councils and Schools use to fine parents for taking their children out of school to go on holidays as they were missing out on vital education? They now miss 10 days for someone in their year group having a positive test.

Choose life, stop the tests 👍🏼
 
Yes that’s right copoutman, keep hiding behind the sofa.
 
Local authorities get £14 per LTF test and £40+ (I think £48 for a PCR. Directly from Dido Harding when I met her.

If you are a cash strapped LA, it's a very nice earner. Each one of those workers running the sites gets 1 test an hour and they are paid for; scale that up to the 1000's and well, I wish I could have run my own test centre.

FWIW Pharmacists get £12.56/vaccine.

Say you do one every 90 seconds, for 6 hour day (taking out lunch breaks etc) and it's 240/day =£3000/day or £20k/wk; even better, they can't be held responsible if it goes wrong.

Some good coin being made out of Covid, way before we get talking about the obscure procurement procedures.

And yes I've had loads of tests and two jabs.
 
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TSSeasider said:
Local authorities get £14 per LTF test and £40+ (I think £48 for a PCR. Directly from Dido Harding when I met her.

If you are a cash strapped LA, it's a very, get nice earner. Each one of those workers rubbing the sites gets 1 year an hour and they are paid for; scale that up to the 1000's and well, I wish I could have run my own test centre.

FWIW Pharmacists get £12.56/vaccine.

Say you so one every 90 seconds, for 6 hour day (taking out lunch breaks etc) and it's 240/day =£3000 or £20k/wk; even better, they can't be held responsible if it goes wrong.

Some good coin being made out of Covid, way before we get talking about the obscure procurement procedures.

And yes I've had loads of tests and two jabs.
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It’s some gravy train isn’t it.
 
Adams Kebab said:
From tomorrow, just stop the mass testing. We are testing over a million a day, hence why we have cases rising. Hospitalisations are fine, deaths aren’t a concern & Covid is now 24th in the list of deaths in the UK. We are looking for ‘cases’ which are not sick people, just a positive result.

Close down the majority of Test Centres that usually have about 10+ staff in Hi-Viz ‘working’ there, would love to see the costings of them and then revert to a pretty simple policy, you only get a test if you have symptoms of the virus which doesn’t include hayfever symptoms which has suddenly appeared as a symptom, almost magically.

You then don’t advertise for people to come forward with no symptoms of a virus you want them to be tested for, you simply say that if you have symptoms you book a test and isolate until you have a test that’s negative. Once you are negative you free to be out and about.

You do not tell people with no symptoms who have had ‘close contact’ or happened to be in a pub in a 7 hour timeframe to isolate unless they have any symptoms.

If you do the above, life gets back to normal.

A million tests you know!? This is before we discuss the reliability of the PCR test.

A ‘Go Compare’ with the rest of Europe and we are world leading on testing, by hundreds of thousands! It really needs to be knocked on the head all of the above, 250,000 kids in isolation at the moment missing school, I’ll bet anyone that 250,000 kids all return to school fit and healthy.

Remember when Councils and Schools use to fine parents for taking their children out of school to go on holidays as they were missing out on vital education? They now miss 10 days for someone in their year group having a positive test.

Choose life, stop the tests 👍🏼
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I love this post. I’m sick to the back teeth of all of this. Business are crippled. Children being destroyed educationally and socially. Fun has disappeared and replaced by mistrust and tutting.
Hypocrisy everywhere because frankly it’s almost impossible not to create bizarre rules that clash with each other.
Last April I believe we had no other choice.
Now everyone is double jabbed or too young to really care or require it.

Let’s use the money spent on testing to fund a world wide vaccine program. Fuck the testing, vaccinate Africa and Asia quickly
 
Chunkylad said:
I love this post. I’m sick to the back teeth of all of this. Business are crippled. Children being destroyed educationally and socially. Fun has disappeared and replaced by mistrust and tutting.
Hypocrisy everywhere because frankly it’s almost impossible not to create bizarre rules that clash with each other.
Last April I believe we had no other choice.
Now everyone is double jabbed or too young to really care or require it.

Let’s use the money spent on testing to fund a world wide vaccine program. Fuck the testing, vaccinate Africa and Asia quickly
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“Fun has disappeared and replaced by mistrust and tutting”. Spot on.

We’ve created a Country of doctors receptionists and traffic wardens.
 
Id doesn't matter who's right or wrong in this argument, the truth is we cannot go on like this, sooner or later we have to take a chance. And if the risk is so high, why are there so many variations in sporting attendances? We had 8k at Wembley the Euro final will have 60k, Wimbledon I read will be full capacity and 135K for the British Grand Prix, makes no sense.
 
Also stop this track and trace nonsense my phone went off because I was in the pub watching the England game and may have come into contact with someone!

The Irony was it told me to isolate for 6 days and guess what I received the message today 6 days after the match fuckin idiots that App has now been deleted.
 
Adams Kebab said:
From tomorrow, just stop the mass testing. We are testing over a million a day, hence why we have cases rising. Hospitalisations are fine, deaths aren’t a concern & Covid is now 24th in the list of deaths in the UK. We are looking for ‘cases’ which are not sick people, just a positive result.

Close down the majority of Test Centres that usually have about 10+ staff in Hi-Viz ‘working’ there, would love to see the costings of them and then revert to a pretty simple policy, you only get a test if you have symptoms of the virus which doesn’t include hayfever symptoms which has suddenly appeared as a symptom, almost magically.

You then don’t advertise for people to come forward with no symptoms of a virus you want them to be tested for, you simply say that if you have symptoms you book a test and isolate until you have a test that’s negative. Once you are negative you free to be out and about.

You do not tell people with no symptoms who have had ‘close contact’ or happened to be in a pub in a 7 hour timeframe to isolate unless they have any symptoms.

If you do the above, life gets back to normal.

A million tests you know!? This is before we discuss the reliability of the PCR test.

A ‘Go Compare’ with the rest of Europe and we are world leading on testing, by hundreds of thousands! It really needs to be knocked on the head all of the above, 250,000 kids in isolation at the moment missing school, I’ll bet anyone that 250,000 kids all return to school fit and healthy.

Remember when Councils and Schools use to fine parents for taking their children out of school to go on holidays as they were missing out on vital education? They now miss 10 days for someone in their year group having a positive test.

Choose life, stop the tests 👍🏼
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Spot on , I went to the pub at dinner time, left at 2 o’clock but according to that daft track and trace thing I’m there till midnight 😯 so if someone goes in the pub now and tests positive they send me one of those messages to isolate!!!😃 ye whatever 😁 as for the farcical situation regarding school kids isolating it’s utter madness .
 
I think it’s time to move on.
The problem is the government received that much grief from the public and the opposition for not preparing adequately for the first and second wave that they have been pushed into a corner to avoid and evade any other wave.
That criticism included not testing enough 🤔
You remember the posts from our resident posters such as Cat, that Boris had blood and the deaths of thousands on his hands.
This was common place criticism from many.
They called him out for not doing enough, now they call him out for doing too much.
Has this become political, in some ways yes, but not necessarily because of this government, but because of the pressure the government haters put out there first time around.
 
Lala said:
I think it’s time to move on.
The problem is the government received that much grief from the public and the opposition for not preparing adequately for the first and second wave that they have been pushed into a corner to avoid and evade any other wave.
That criticism included not testing enough 🤔
You remember the posts from our resident posters such as Cat, that Boris had blood and the deaths of thousands on his hands.
This was common place criticism from many.
They called him out for not doing enough, now they call him out for doing too much.
Has this become political, in some ways yes, but not necessarily because of this government, but because of the pressure the government haters put out there first time around.
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Lots of the latest restrictions or rules have been purely political, many wear rose tinted specs, I have no preference and in relation to the opposition they’ve been the footballing equivalent of San Marino.

I think the Government have made such a dogs breakfast of so many things, they panic at the slightest thing and are influenced by fun-hating communists like Susan Michie. I also think they’ve scared many people in the nation and have almost backed themselves into a corner with it.

The Government have become absolutely obsessed with testing healthy people for Covid while too many genuinely sick people are still awaiting tests for illnesses other than Covid.

It is time to move on you’re right.

Open the Country back up and let’s all put this shit show behind us.
 
Adams Kebab said:
Lots of the latest restrictions or rules have been purely political, many wear rose tinted specs, I have no preference and in relation to the opposition they’ve been the footballing equivalent of San Marino.

I think the Government have made such a dogs breakfast of so many things, they panic at the slightest thing and are influenced by fun-hating communists like Susan Michie. I also think they’ve scared many people in the nation and have almost backed themselves into a corner with it.

The Government have become absolutely obsessed with testing healthy people for Covid while too many genuinely sick people are still awaiting tests for illnesses other than Covid.

It is time to move on you’re right.

Open the Country back up and let’s all put this shit show behind us.
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I agree it’s time to move on.

I don’t agree that the government have entirely backed themselves into a corner for reasons I’ve stated above and my genuine belief that any opposition party would have been equally caught off guard , then equally proactive or overly reactive in trying to prevent a further wave.
Whether any of those responses were enough, not enough or too much is another matter entirely, but nobody had a crystal ball at any stage.
I backed herd immunity originally, and thought this was not much worse than flu,but I was definitely wrong and restrictions on some level
were definitely required.
It’s now that matters though. I think we will and should lift all restrictions on 19th, but that opinion and course of action may put blood on my hands, according to the haters, should the shit hit that fan again.
 
Lala said:
I think it’s time to move on.
The problem is the government received that much grief from the public and the opposition for not preparing adequately for the first and second wave that they have been pushed into a corner to avoid and evade any other wave.
That criticism included not testing enough 🤔
You remember the posts from our resident posters such as Cat, that Boris had blood and the deaths of thousands on his hands.
This was common place criticism from many.
They called him out for not doing enough, now they call him out for doing too much.
Has this become political, in some ways yes, but not necessarily because of this government, but because of the pressure the government haters put out there first time around.
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I don't think anyone's called out Johnson for doing too much. Perhaps if they'd slapped india on the red list (the reasons for that were political) we wouldn't be seeing cases rise whereas in mainland Europe cases are dropping again. We have made a consistent hash of this, perhaps we shouldn't be surprised when the PM isn't interested in much apart from himself.
 
The reason why the government are acting with caution isn't Catinstalbans - it's because Cummings has dished the dirt.

Now, Cummings maybe a snake, a scumbag and generally two faced fella, but they know the only way to head off the allegations of reckless abandon from the first wave (and indeed the later one) is to drag this one out to a point where everyone wants some reckless abandon and doesn't care about what Cummings says. To get everyone desperate to move on. To make everyone not even ever want to think about lockdown again.

This is political @Lala - it's got sweet FA to do with government haters tho. It is the internal calculations of the government working on the best strategy to nullify it's enemy. Other Tory politicians who might want to to topple it and take over...

I'm sorry, I fundamentally disagree with the view that 'any other party couldn't have dealt with it better' - it is precisely because *they know* they dealt with it badly*, that we know are seeing them role playing 'dealing with it well'

Self serving politicians who wanted to protect the economy when health mattered more because it was the politically expedient thing to do and conversely, now it seems that the economy could be opened up, want to do the opposite in order to nullify the effect of potential political damage.

*I'll leven that by saying 'they know their were some very poor decisions made by some people responsible for decision making' as I don't think the blanket statement is quite fair.
 
Re the O/P.
Was having exactly the same conversation with my barber.
Stop the testing. Think USA are ahead of us there. And the school kids will no doubt be fine as well, so don’t worry about them. Boris etc were going for herd immunity at the start. Now is the time to turn that into reality.
 
Lala said:
I think it’s time to move on.
The problem is the government received that much grief from the public and the opposition for not preparing adequately for the first and second wave that they have been pushed into a corner to avoid and evade any other wave.
That criticism included not testing enough 🤔
You remember the posts from our resident posters such as Cat, that Boris had blood and the deaths of thousands on his hands.
This was common place criticism from many.
They called him out for not doing enough, now they call him out for doing too much.
Has this become political, in some ways yes, but not necessarily because of this government, but because of the pressure the government haters put out there first time around.
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Because he does!
I don't think I have ever said that the lazy corrupt do as little as possible Prime Minister is doing too much.
 
Thegoalmachine said:
Spot on , I went to the pub at dinner time, left at 2 o’clock but according to that daft track and trace thing I’m there till midnight 😯 so if someone goes in the pub now and tests positive they send me one of those messages to isolate!!!😃 ye whatever 😁 as for the farcical situation regarding school kids isolating it’s utter madness .
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Not like you leaving at 2 😂

The School children isolating farce is actually criminal in my mind and like something out of the Beano. Whole year groups of 200 kids in some cases, missing school for a flawed positive test. They all miss a week or more of school and then just come back, no symptoms for hundreds of them at any point, just their education, their mental health and social skills that suffer.

It needs looking at immediately, I’m sure Gavin Williamson can sort it after he’s managed to tie his own shoelaces.
 
Adams Kebab said:
Not like you leaving at 2 😂

The School children isolating farce is actually criminal in my mind and like something out of the Beano. Whole year groups of 200 kids in some cases, missing school for a flawed positive test. They all miss a week or more of school and then just come back, no symptoms for hundreds of them at any point, just their education, their mental health and social skills that suffer.

It needs looking at immediately, I’m sure Gavin Williamson can sort it after he’s managed to tie his own shoelaces.
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🤣🤣 yep good old gav to the rescue 😃
 
Adams Kebab said:
Was he part of a ‘trial event’ to see if transmissions between different households occurred through kissing?

Look forward to hearing the results.
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It blows my mind that people still defend the silly rules. The lefties are the worst for riding to Pfeffel's defence, which makes it even more bizarre.
 
Can you avoid catching any other diseases by not testing for them?

If so it’s obviously sensible to avoid the doctor at all costs! No test. No illness 👍
 
Mexboroseasider said:
Can you avoid catching any other diseases by not testing for them?

If so it’s obviously sensible to avoid the doctor at all costs! No test. No illness 👍
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Think that's AK's point. Test for the disease (Covid-19) which can be deadly but not the virus which is widely circulating and harmless for most.
 
Mexboroseasider said:
Can you avoid catching any other diseases by not testing for them?

If so it’s obviously sensible to avoid the doctor at all costs! No test. No illness 👍
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Indeed. Always been slightly suspicious of "simple" resolutions to complicated problems - more so when it is from someone with little more than certitude borne out of youtube videos and social media, but little in the way of qualifications. And I`m afraid that the room is completely lost when a left/right slant is unnecessarily and erroneously added.

I know it`s not fashionable, but I`m a bit old school in that I generally take advice from experts when confronted with a dilemma - not that they are always right - but they are more likely to be right, more often than not.

But I might be wrong and AK might have cracked it.

Let`s hope he has, because we all want to get back to as close to life as it once was...
 
I've found a simple way to cure cancer. Just ignore it.

Looking for lumps where you shouldn't have them? Don't bother. Support organisations like McMillian's ? Abolish them, they are only in it for the donations.

Hospitalisations are at a fairly low level, the only people catching it are going to die one day anyway and we don't go to all these ridiculous lengths for people who get injured in train crashes.

We've been living with this disease for decades now and it's time to move on. No point in spending a fiver on prevention when we can afford thousands for treatment or a cure. People have had to make sacrifices like staying indoors a bit more and not going to Tenerife for an annual piss up for long enough.
 
If the pandemic ends the population might get wise to the many problems Brexit is causing.
 
coppiceman said:
I've found a simple way to cure cancer. Just ignore it.

Looking for lumps where you shouldn't have them? Don't bother. Support organisations like McMillian's ? Abolish them, they are only in it for the donations.

Hospitalisations are at a fairly low level, the only people catching it are going to die one day anyway and we don't go to all these ridiculous lengths for people who get injured in train crashes.

We've been living with this disease for decades now and it's time to move on. No point in spending a fiver on prevention when we can afford thousands for treatment or a cure. People have had to make sacrifices like staying indoors a bit more and not going to Tenerife for an annual piss up for long enough.
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Go on I’ll engage. You have spectacularly missed the point but also highlighted the stupidity of it all, as many have had missed cancer appointments due to the full focus on Covid with a 99% recovery rate.

Read the post again, we only test people with symptoms, people who are actually ill, not people with no symptoms who are fine. It’s worlds apart from what you describe.

To use cancer and the charities highlights what a weapon you are.
 
spudgun said:
Indeed. Always been slightly suspicious of "simple" resolutions to complicated problems - more so when it is from someone with little more than certitude borne out of youtube videos and social media, but little in the way of qualifications. And I`m afraid that the room is completely lost when a left/right slant is unnecessarily and erroneously added.

I know it`s not fashionable, but I`m a bit old school in that I generally take advice from experts when confronted with a dilemma - not that they are always right - but they are more likely to be right, more often than not.

But I might be wrong and AK might have cracked it.

Let`s hope he has, because we all want to get back to as close to life as it once was...
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Well how rude mentioning my qualifications. I’ve got DD in Science and got my 50m and 100m swimming badges for a kick off.

I don’t watch You Tube, but you’re right about social media, there are numerous ‘experts’ who have made many of my points above, I think the danger is the ability to use your own eyes and ears and evaluate the situation and establish to yourself that is an expert telling you that eating a Scotch Egg with a pint is ok but if you just have. Pint it is not, that’s just one example of thousands of stupid, illogical rules.

My simple solution might be wrong but anyone with any ounce of brain capacity can surely come to the conclusion that the over testing of fit and healthy people alongside the isolating of these same people including school children who are of almost zero risk to the virus is complete and utter madness.

You don’t need to be an expert to understand this point.


Science used to mean continually asking questions and testing theories in the pursuit of truth.

Now it means accepting a narrative from a central authority and ignoring any dissenting thoughts.
 
Lala said:
I think it’s time to move on.
The problem is the government received that much grief from the public and the opposition for not preparing adequately for the first and second wave that they have been pushed into a corner to avoid and evade any other wave.
That criticism included not testing enough 🤔
You remember the posts from our resident posters such as Cat, that Boris had blood and the deaths of thousands on his hands.
This was common place criticism from many.
They called him out for not doing enough, now they call him out for doing too much.
Has this become political, in some ways yes, but not necessarily because of this government, but because of the pressure the government haters put out there first time around.
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Sorry. Not having that.
Shifting any element of criticism for decisions this Government made in the first six months on to the opposition. Really?
He didn't do enough and maybe now he is being overly cautious but that's hardly the fault of the opposition. It seems to me you are advocating a system where no criticism is allowed.
 
coppiceman said:
I've found a simple way to cure cancer. Just ignore it.

Looking for lumps where you shouldn't have them? Don't bother. Support organisations like McMillian's ? Abolish them, they are only in it for the donations.

Hospitalisations are at a fairly low level, the only people catching it are going to die one day anyway and we don't go to all these ridiculous lengths for people who get injured in train crashes.

We've been living with this disease for decades now and it's time to move on. No point in spending a fiver on prevention when we can afford thousands for treatment or a cure. People have had to make sacrifices like staying indoors a bit more and not going to Tenerife for an annual piss up for long enough.
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Coppice

I know you were being sarcastic with your suggestion to ignore cancer and I'm not suggesting that anybody is actually deliberately ignoring cancer but the way this virus is being prioritised I can't help think that those suffering from or potentially suffering from cancer are going to be seriously affected down the line.

I am praying that everything works out OK for everybody and that I am just being overly scared but if the numbers are correct I can't see how there won't be problems later on.
 
Adams Kebab said:
Well how rude mentioning my qualifications. I’ve got DD in Science and got my 50m and 100m swimming badges for a kick off.

I don’t watch You Tube, but you’re right about social media, there are numerous ‘experts’ who have made many of my points above, I think the danger is the ability to use your own eyes and ears and evaluate the situation and establish to yourself that is an expert telling you that eating a Scotch Egg with a pint is ok but if you just have. Pint it is not, that’s just one example of thousands of stupid, illogical rules.

My simple solution might be wrong but anyone with any ounce of brain capacity can surely come to the conclusion that the over testing of fit and healthy people alongside the isolating of these same people including school children who are of almost zero risk to the virus is complete and utter madness.

You don’t need to be an expert to understand this point.


Science used to mean continually asking questions and testing theories in the pursuit of truth.

Now it means accepting a narrative from a central authority and ignoring any dissenting thoughts.
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Well you`re probably better qualified than me then. Never got my 100m badge.

But I did make a rather good trowel one year in metalwork if that helps...🙃
 
Adams Kebab said:
Go on I’ll engage. You have spectacularly missed the point but also highlighted the stupidity of it all, as many have had missed cancer appointments due to the full focus on Covid with a 99% recovery rate.

Read the post again, we only test people with symptoms, people who are actually ill, not people with no symptoms who are fine. It’s worlds apart from what you describe.

To use cancer and the charities highlights what a weapon you are.
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Kebab

Just 2 quick points:

1. I think you would make a great Health Secretary should Hancock be forced to go for sticking it up his aide.

2. You say Coppice is a weapon and are not going to get any argument from me on that but do you think he is a big enough weapon to wrestle my crown from me ?

I was awarded the AVFTT Weapon of the Month only last night.

Edit - I was awarded the Whopper of the Month and not the Weapon of the Month.
 
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I think you only won that because 20`s and scara were on holiday that month to be fair, 2020...:)
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lol

I only won it last night Spud !!!!!!!!!!

I'm not looking for an excuse though, it's the first time I'm ever won anything and I'm rather proud of my achievement.
 
One thing for sure when they let all these so called dignitaries in for the Euros without any quarantine the lid for any further compliance will be completely off. Perhaps that's the intention.
 
Sooty59 said:
One thing for sure when they let all these so called dignitaries in for the Euros without any quarantine the lid for any further compliance will be completely off. Perhaps that's the intention.
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You might be onto something there. Maybe there are forces at play to bring this all to a close with maximum face being saved. A tactical retreat if you will. Mass civil disobedience would be one such way of returning responsibility back to the individual.

I did wonder why Wanksock's affair was 'exposed' on a Friday morning. The day before another 1m+ march in London (rather than for the Sunday papers for example).

Let's face it, it's been a public health fiasco from start to finish. Despite how it has been sold, I doubt there is a single person in the country who has had their life enhanced in the last year. Many of the double-jabbed are still bricking it at the sight of a graph which goes to show SAGE really have done a number on lots and lots of people.
 
Lost Seasider said:
One slight little problem with the OP's theory that it's all down to increased testing:

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The test positivity rate has gone up by a factor of 4 since early April.
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Please don’t say we aren’t over-testing?

10 times more than Germany.

We are also shooting ourselves in the foot with international travel too as other countries are looking at our ‘cases’ or ‘infection’ rates and not wanting to let us in, when we eventually can of course.
 
This ^
Or we can just copy America and say, fcuk it. We’ve vaccinated the majority already. Crack on. Business as usual, without having to take swabs from us before we can go into an office etc
 
There’s value in testing as there is a benefit to reducing levels of transmission (at least for the time being).

So stopping the current approach to testing isn’t the answer. We probably do need to address how we relate to the numbers though and ideally gradually phase out and stop the in your face publication of data.
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
There’s value in testing as there is a benefit to reducing levels of transmission (at least for the time being).

So stopping the current approach to testing isn’t the answer. We probably do need to address how we relate to the numbers though and ideally gradually phase out and stop the in your face publication of data.
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Personally i would prefer a bit more information on the data, who are these people going into hospital, who are the people still dying ? I.E. how old were they, were they already ill, underlying health conditions, have they been vaccinated and if so once or twice ? I suspect if this onforma was given out we would probably not be still in lockdown.
 
Scaramanga said:
Personally i would prefer a bit more information on the data, who are these people going into hospital, who are the people still dying ? I.E. how old were they, were they already ill, underlying health conditions, have they been vaccinated and if so once or twice ? I suspect if this onforma was given out we would probably not be still in lockdown.
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So information overload then?

Maybe we should start publishing similar data for every other disease ? Maybe televise all autopsies.
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
So information overload then?

Maybe we should start publishing similar data for every other disease ? Maybe televise all autopsies.
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Don’t be so facetious, dont tell me you wouldn’t want the truth of the number facts. If you don’t what do you want to know nothing ? If so then just don’t watch the news or read about it then.
 
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