SLO - Does he do a good job?

What do you want him to do ?

I just watch the game and maybe buy some refreshments and sing some songs do a bit of clapping slag off the referee and go home.

Always seems to go fairly smoothly with no other concerns .

I appreciate that other people might have some specific issues but doesn’t he sort them ?

Is that why he comes under attack ?

Id be interested to know what other issues people need resolving.

It’s just a couple of hours watching football isn’t it . Simple ?
 
AngelBFC said:
What do you want him to do ?

I just watch the game and maybe buy some refreshments and sing some songs do a bit of clapping slag off the referee and go home.

Always seems to go fairly smoothly with no other concerns .

I appreciate that other people might have some specific issues but doesn’t he sort them ?

Is that why he comes under attack ?

Id be interested to know what other issues people need resolving.

It’s just a couple of hours watching football isn’t it . Simple ?
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Maybe engage with the fans, be responsible for initiatives to increase the gate and atmosphere. Be open and honest. Don’t facilitate secret meetings between the board and the ST
 
BambersLeftFoot said:
Maybe engage with the fans, be responsible for initiatives to increase the gate and atmosphere. Be open and honest. Don’t facilitate secret meetings between the board and the ST
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People, including me, have posted on here many times to say how the SLO is quick to respond when approached by individual fans. He also communicates fans' ideas or problems to appropriate members of staff at BFC. Don't forget, he does this as a volunteer, so he deserves to be cut a bit of slack.
 
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With the team winning 4-1 on Saturday would be a push to have a go at the team, manager and owner. Colin Calderwood still hasn't come back.There hasn't been any threads on the pies, tits and fanny's song, standing in the isles,Blackpool Clowncil. No update on the training ground or East Stand to comment on.
Got it, let's have a pop at the SLO, I know that 97% of fans don't give a monkeys, but it will make me feel so much better to have a scapegoat for the week
 
rememberlesshannon said:
With the team winning 4-1 on Saturday would be a push to have a go at the team, manager and owner. Colin Calderwood still hasn't come back.There hasn't been any threads on the pies, tits and fanny's song, standing in the isles,Blackpool Clowncil. No update on the training ground or East Stand to comment on.
Got it, let's have a pop at the SLO, I know that 97% of fans don't give a monkeys, but it will make me feel so much better to have a scapegoat for the week
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So you aren't aware of the SL0 telling other fans groups that they will no longer have any direct communication from the club as it will all go through BST?
 
Phil_bfc deux said:
So you aren't aware of the SL0 telling other fans groups that they will no longer have any direct communication from the club as it will all go through BST?
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I'm not aware and to be honest Phil as I'm not a member of any supporters group, I don't give a flying. Oh for the happy days of watching the match and popping into the Supporters Club after the game, it's all got too political for me, all these groups jockeying for position, none of whom speak for me or a lot of other fans.
Saturday me and my lads will jump in the car, watch the game, discuss it on the way home, maybe throw in a couple of pints. I can guarantee at no point will the SLO or any supporters group be a part of our day/discussions.
 
rememberlesshannon said:
I'm not aware and to be honest Phil as I'm not a member of any supporters group, I don't give a flying. Oh for the happy days of watching the match and popping into the Supporters Club after the game, it's all got too political for me, all these groups jockeying for position, none of whom speak for me or a lot of other fans.
Saturday me and my lads will jump in the car, watch the game, discuss it on the way home, maybe throw in a couple of pints. I can guarantee at no point will the SLO or any supporters group be a part of our day/discussions.
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Fair enough
 
Phil_bfc deux said:
But you sent a message to the MSG telling them that the club will only deal directly with BST?
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Not true. I replied to a request from Paul Grimshaw for a meeting with the CEO and explained that it won't be happening imminently and gave the reason why. The MSG has posted that private exchange on TwitteX if anybody cares to read it properly.
 
SLO_BFC said:
Not true. I replied to a request from Paul Grimshaw for a meeting with the CEO and explained that it won't be happening imminently and gave the reason why. The MSG has posted that private exchange on TwitteX if anybody cares to read it properly.
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I've seen it already

And it doesn't do BST or you any favours especially after the recent secret now not so secret meeting with the new CEO

Below is a copy I'm unsure what isn't true about my post
 

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It might help to answer the question if you had something to measure the question against.
For the uneducated fan in BFC politics like myself, does he have such a thing as Terms of Reference for the role? 🤔
 
Phil_bfc deux said:
I've seen it already

And it doesn't do BST or you any favours especially after the recent secret now not so secret meeting with the new CEO
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Is that the “secret” meeting that BST posted about on here?

And wasn’t it also talked about during Tim Fielding’s podcast? (I didn’t listen but I think he said it was going to be).

Or is another “secret” meeting that everyone has also been told about?

Basically what you seem to be saying is that MSG also asked for a meeting with the club but Sadler has said no? If that’s right, how on Earth is it the SLO’s fault? Or BST’s come to that?

Can you post the email exchange on here so we can all judge?
 
Mexboroseasider said:
Is that the “secret” meeting that BST posted about on here?

And wasn’t it also talked about during Tim Fielding’s podcast? (I didn’t listen but I think he said it was going to be).

Or is another “secret” meeting that everyone has also been told about?

Basically what you seem to be saying is that MSG also asked for a meeting with the club but Sadler has said no? If that’s right, how on Earth is it the SLO’s fault? Or BST’s come to that?

Can you post the email exchange on here so we can all judge?
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Secret as in it was only made public after the meeting and still no minutes

Infact even the membership didn't know about the meeting until afterwards

As for the POD I don't listen anymore and i didn't realise the POD was a comincation tool for BST, maybe I should listen if that's the case
 
Phil_bfc deux said:
Secret as in it was only made public after the meeting and still no minutes

Infact even the membership didn't know about the meeting until afterwards

As for the POD I don't listen anymore and i didn't realise the POD was a comincation tool for BST, maybe I should listen if that's the case
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Re the Pod my point really was that the meeting can hardly be called secret if people are taking about it on the internet can it?

So are you going to post a link to these emails then? Or are they secret too?

And why wasn’t avftt told that the MSG had requested a secret meeting with BFC? What did they want to discuss? Hmmmmm.
 
poolseasider said:
Quite right too.
The list at meetings is huge.
For a club our size we've more groups than play Lytham festival bonkers.
Some are pointless others are just Facebook mates.
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I tend to agree with you some of the groups attending now are ridiculous

However it's a very dangerous precedent being set if the club will only deal with BST

Smacks of Oystons and BSA
 
Mexboroseasider said:
Re the Pod my point really was that the meeting can hardly be called secret if people are taking about it on the internet can it?

So are you going to post a link to these emails then? Or are they secret too?

And why wasn’t avftt told that the MSG had requested a secret meeting with BFC? What did they want to discuss? Hmmmmm.
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I believe it was spoken about after the meeting not before and only after the meeting was leaked on twitter

I have no idea what emails you reference

I don't answer for the MSG, maybe you should ask them
 
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BambersLeftFoot said:
Maybe engage with the fans, be responsible for initiatives to increase the gate and atmosphere. Be open and honest. Don’t facilitate secret meetings between the board and the ST
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How in the real world does a volunteer supporter work as an SLO and become responsible for 'initiatives to increasing the gates and atmosphere?'
You clearly don't understand the role, and instead make it personal with abuse. Poor do - perhaps try communicating with him like an adult with some of your own bright ideas, you might be taken seriously then, just a thought.
 
Phil_bfc deux said:
I've seen it already

And it doesn't do BST or you any favours especially after the recent secret now not so secret meeting with the new CEO

Below is a copy I'm unsure what isn't true about my post
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Maybe groups shouldn’t publish private communication, especially when it doesn’t fit their agenda.

You may find it limits conversations in the future, as it may be presumed they can’t be trusted to keep their gob shut.

Just a thought 👍
 
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BambersLeftFoot said:
Maybe engage with the fans, be responsible for initiatives to increase the gate and atmosphere. Be open and honest. Don’t facilitate secret meetings between the board and the ST
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Isnt the boss of the club who is probably on a few hundred grand a year responsible for initiatives to bring in more revenue ie Julian Winter rather than an unpaid volunteer?

In relation to increasing the atmosphere personally I think the atmosphere is mega and is regularly commented on by visiting fans from opposing teams. I regularly go to away games and the home support is dull most of the time compared to ours. No problem there imo

However the atmosphere is mainly down to our passionate and vociferous youth and is a real asset to the club. They do need a voice. I thought the MSG mainly represented them and the club holds dialogue meetings with all groups present. Is that now not the case ?

The SLO cant represent the interests of all groups that would be impossible. Isnt his role just to liase with the club generally as and when specific issues arise ?
 
seasideone said:
Maybe groups shouldn’t publish private communication, especially when it doesn’t fit their agenda.

You may find it limits conversations in the future, as it may be presumed they can’t be trusted to keep their gob shut.

Just a thought 👍
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Yeah fair point or you could say there should be more transparency from all

I mean the last thing we all want is another BSA situation happening
 
Does a great job ...and ...as a volunteer ! Others never have time to contribute ...but always time to criticise.
Always some twerp wants to take a pin to a balloon party 🤦
 
Phil_bfc deux said:
Yeah fair point or you could say there should be more transparency from all

I mean the last thing we all want is another BSA situation happening
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BST are independent and as far as I know always will be - therefore they are not a comparison to BSA.

Communication can obviously be improved - but releasing private conversations without the other people(s) permission is simply not on in my view.

If it was me, it would be the last email with anything on it I would ever share with them.
 
Phil_bfc deux said:
I tend to agree with you some of the groups attending now are ridiculous

However it's a very dangerous precedent being set if the club will only deal with BST

Smacks of Oystons and BSA
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I don't believe that is what is intended. For me, I have posted in detail on other threads how I believe that BST could accommodate membership from all of the other fans groups and, with sufficient member engagement, could speak for all of the fans in bilateral discussions with the Club.

As for the current thread, it strikes me that one or two posters- including you - have a very deliberate and negative intent on badmouthing those who work with or engage with the Club. It is not helpful.
 
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This is precisely why I will never be part of any fan group. There's too much infighting and playing who's got the bigger dick between them. Yes, they have their uses especially during times of turmoil in a club, but they also have major draw backs in that they're always vying for top position and trying to get their members to be in positions of perceived power within the club. I will say though, that having secret meetings is only going to make matters worse and the club need to be very careful how they proceed now, alienating large sections of the fan base because you prefer dealing with another group, isn't a good look.
 
seasideone said:
BST are independent and as far as I know always will be - therefore they are not a comparison to BSA.

Communication can obviously be improved - but releasing private conversations without the other people(s) permission is simply not on in my view.

If it was me, it would be the last email with anything on it I would ever share with them.
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They haven't done that though in this instance. I berated them last season when the Committee unilaterally called off a members meeting because they thought that the timing was inappropriate. These things need to be discussed more fully and I hope they are, going forward.
 
I bleed Tangerine said:
This is precisely why I will never be part of any fan group. There's too much infighting and playing who's got the bigger dick between them. Yes, they have their uses especially during times of turmoil in a club, but they also have major draw backs in that they're always vying for top position and trying to get their members to be in positions of perceived power within the club. I will say though, that having secret meetings is only going to make matters worse and the club need to be very careful how they proceed now, alienating large sections of the fan base because you prefer dealing with another group, isn't a good look.
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It's one of the pitfalls of any members organisation in a pluralistic society. The best we can do is to make them work as openly and as democratically as possible. That takes work and it's not easy trying to convince everyone that you're not being underhand or power-mad.
 
seasideone said:
BST are independent and as far as I know always will be - therefore they are not a comparison to BSA.

Communication can obviously be improved - but releasing private conversations without the other people(s) permission is simply not on in my view.

If it was me, it would be the last email with anything on it I would ever share with them.
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They dont look very independent to me
 
I always struggle when it comes to fan groups because they can be a source of so much good, however we all seen in multiple fan bases all of the country that the people running then can also get power hungry/mad.

In this case, I think the club has alot to answer for when they're only meeting with one group knowing the reaction from the other fan group's will not be a positive one. Feel like the club have set up BST to get alot of stick here when they just attended a meeting they were invited too. Maybe they should have turned it down, knowing the reaction but I believe they shouldn't have been invited to a private meeting in the first place.

Hopefully this gets sorted amicably and we can move on, but the club need to recognise that by having secret meeting, they're just making a rod for their own back.
 
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