TangerTonyGreen
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Two towers, 100 plus floors each, can’t be far off.
Some 9/11 stuff doesn't makes sense
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Metropolis
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It would have had to have had a big samurai sword on it too which could slice through 88 steel girders in one foul swoop on it's way downThat massive transmitter on top of one of the towers weighed a bit I reckon.
Metropolis
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200 floors of dust
BFC_BFC_BFC
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The two buildings collapsed into their own footprints and are a distance away from building 7.
The building was hit and damaged (caught fire) from some debris, but 220 floors? No nothing like it.
Why actually comment if you actually know fuck all?
TangerTonyGreen
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Yes and it burned for eight hours or so, so a collapse is no real surprise really is it?
BFC_BFC_BFC
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Well yes, it is a surprise… that’s the ** point. The buildings are designed to retain a certain amount of their structural integrity and do collapses of that nature are extremely unusual.
Metropolis
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Never happened* in the history of multi storey buildings, then 3 in one day.
*except when explosives are used in a demolition
Wizaard
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Completely different building type. The whole of the Twin Towers external metal framework was compromised by the impact. Grenfell was more tradionally built of reinforced concrete
World Trade Center 7 building did not collapse due to fire: Report - constructconnect.com - Daily Commercial News
A group of engineers and architects is demanding the American National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) retract and correct a 2008 report that concluded one of three World Trade Center buildings collapsed because fire weakened the steel supporcanada.constructconnect.com
Metropolis
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Or people just questioning a narrative that doesn't make sense, a bit like you do with the moderation of this site
20togo
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more shiite. The buildings are "designed to" and it is hoped that that is the case but the proof of the pudding is when something like 9/11 actually happens. It's not like they can practically test for an event like that can they?
20togo
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You're just another re-registered user name who no doubt has been banned before and perhaps has other user names. Purpose is solely to cause trouble and stir the pot. There you go ,I've joined the conspiracy theory club.Or people just questioning a narrative that doesn't make sense, a bit like you do with the moderation of this site
Jaffa_The_Hut
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Totally agree 20’s.
How can you test a building without flying a 150 tonne jet carrying 50,000 gallons of aviation fuel at 300 mph into it?
Simple you can’t and no building would have with stood that sort of impact.
How can you test a building without flying a 150 tonne jet carrying 50,000 gallons of aviation fuel at 300 mph into it?
Simple you can’t and no building would have with stood that sort of impact.
Metropolis
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Fire is what caused the collapse of all 3 towers, that's the official story. Fire has never brought a building down like that EVER, then we have 3 in a day.
Metropolis
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Simonized
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Did you read it wiz as it's an article on building 7 which was not built the same exoskeleton as the towers?
Metropolis
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BFC_BFC_BFC
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Nobody flew a 150 tonne jet carrying 50,000 gallons of aviation fuel into building 7.
Jaffa_The_Hut
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Really must have dreamed about it then.
Metropolis
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Yes you must haveReally must have dreamed about it then.
20togo
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bfc3 is being a knob, he's only referred to WTC 7 in his post.Really must have dreamed about it then.
Metropolis. Cult 1927 German film directed by Fritz Lang. A deranged Kraut dominated by his father imagines he knows everything but in fact knows nowt.
Simonized
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Try these guys.I’d love to join in, but I’m not an expert on aviation crash investigations, nor one on structural engineering.
If someone could put a link up to the YouTube video they got their qualifications from I’d appreciate it.
World Trade Center 7 building did not collapse due to fire: Report - constructconnect.com - Daily Commercial News
A group of engineers and architects is demanding the American National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) retract and correct a 2008 report that concluded one of three World Trade Center buildings collapsed because fire weakened the steel suppor
canada.constructconnect.com
BFC_BFC_BFC
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You don’t need to be an expert Johnno. The statistics are out there and easy to understand.I’d love to join in, but I’m not an expert on aviation crash investigations, nor one on structural engineering.
If someone could put a link up to the YouTube video they got their qualifications from I’d appreciate it.
From my perspective there are a number or highly improbable events that took place in relation to 9/11.
Quite what that means I’m not sure….
Really must have dreamed about it then.
You Kay have dreamed about it or you may just not be in possession of the facts. WTC building 7 was not hit by a plane, that was the other two buildings.
TangerTonyGreen
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Bloodtangerine
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It’s a
It’s a fukcing hoot 20s. I’ve just been reading this hilarious (surely spoof) thread and pissing myself laughing. It’s relaxed me entirely and I am going to my bed with a smile on my face
Simonized
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Kerosine does not burn hot enough or long enough to melt steel.Aye and gravity didn’t take any fuel downwards.
JJpool
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I've said the passport thing alone to me is very fishy.
Let's paint the scene, they are on that plane and it smashes into the building in a huge fireball and explosion and the fires burn hot enough to weaken steel... but the passport is magically found 2 blocks away.
Its almost like.... "who could have done this? Oh look there, is that a passport, oh look, is that a terrorist from the middle east, we better make them pay....."
To be honest I had just come home from high school when 9/11 happened, yep...
A bit after I watched all the conspiracy stuff and also watched all the counter debunking stuff, after all that your left not knowing what to think on some stuff, not everything was debunked satisfactorily.
But some bits in the back of your mind leave it open to suspicion.
I honestly can't remember most stuff but building 7 did seem odd.
But this from a brief search and not sure what counter arguments there are...
There was the apparent massive amount of put options placed on united airlines and American Airlines before the attack,
The apparent change in protocol 3 months before, so that generals at norad couldn't shoot down a plane without higher authority from Dick Chaney.
The drills the US ran simulatating such attacks with planes into the twin towers and into the pentagon.
They then said they had no idea such an attack using jets was possible.
Even on the day of the attacks they weren't sure if it was drills. The cia was apparently running drills that day of flying planes into the world trade centre and pentagon...
There's a few interesting ones on here, not all or them.... and some first hand accounts from people who saw suspicious stuff about flight 93 on one of the videos.
Unfortunately like most conspiracies, some lunatics do attach and can make it harder to shift though any genuine interesting stuff that I'd like to know an official explanation to.
The Most Compelling 9/11 Conspiracy Theories
On the anniversary of the September 11 terror attacks, conspiracy theories about the fateful date in U.S. history have persisted and thrived.
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BFC_BFC_BFC
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Thick as fuckAye and gravity didn’t take any fuel downwards.
TangerTonyGreen
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For someone peddling a conspiracy theory that is quality.
BFC_BFC_BFC
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I’m not peddling anything at all….For someone peddling a conspiracy theory that is quality.
I’ve simply said there are a few things that I find quite odd.
At the end of the day nothing I’ve said isn’t factual, yet you have made a series of factually inaccurate statements.
JJpool
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Hang on. Have you looked at all the claims and counter claims to make an evidence based judgement? If so and conclude all nonsense then fine but there's a few fishy things that don't add up. Do you think finding a passport from that exploded plane and ridiculously hot fireball is legit?It’s a
It’s a fukcing hoot 20s. I’ve just been reading this hilarious (surely spoof) thread and pissing myself laughing. It’s relaxed me entirely and I am going to my bed with a smile on my face
Not every element of a conspiracy is necessarily bullshit.
People thought the police wouldn't lie about Hillsborough and cover it up, they did.
The government wouldn't spy on us and can't watch us through our mobile phones even when 'turned off' etc, well they can, all exposed by Snowden.
Governments WILL lie and deceive to achieve their goals, to what level is debatable.
Metropolis
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Is that what you were feeling once BSA were exposed as mushroom central?
Jaffa_The_Hut
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Whilst I agree about Kerosine the steel was all but destroyed in the impact and was the beginning of the end it couldn’t support the weight above it.
Metropolis
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What about the other 109 floors? What destroyed them to the point of freefall collapse?
BFC_BFC_BFC
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That’s absolute bollocks
Metropolis
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And one thing I do know is that aluminium wings, no matter how hard they hit steel, will not break it. The plane would have been broken up and blown up, not the steel though.
Jaffa_The_Hut
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Like I said the building simply snapped due to the weak structures caused by the impact the building fell in on itself what’s difficult not to understand?
Jaffa_The_Hut
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Yer whatever, no doubt you were there or you built the building in the first place so know everything about it. (Not)
tangerine_neil
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I’ve got a few suggestions for the towers collapsing.
The aircraft fuel created a super heat inferno situation unheard of in other building fires.
The buildings had engineering flaws or substandard materials / steel.
The steel work was already compromised - but that leads us back into conspiracy theory territory again.
Cracks caused by the high speed impact.
Detonators were also used.
The weight of subsequent floors collapsing created a domino effect.
The aircraft fuel created a super heat inferno situation unheard of in other building fires.
The buildings had engineering flaws or substandard materials / steel.
The steel work was already compromised - but that leads us back into conspiracy theory territory again.
Cracks caused by the high speed impact.
Detonators were also used.
The weight of subsequent floors collapsing created a domino effect.
BFC_BFC_BFC
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I don’t need to have been there it’s just a bullshit comment. You state it like it’s a fact,but it’s totally false.
You’re on here accusing people of conspiracy theory or whatever and lording it up taking the piss out of folk, yet like the other fella you’re spouting complete pooster.
Metropolis
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Snapped is fine, falling on itself is fine too. But don't you think it very surprising that there was zero resistance all the way down? No stopping at all, no slight deviation from the downward movement, no toppling over? All 3 buildings ?
Jaffa_The_Hut
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Do the maths an aircraft mass weight of 275,000lbs travelling at 300 mph nothing is going to withstand the impact.
Jaffa_The_Hut
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I’am accusing people of conspiracy?
You’ll be telling me there’s an alien craft next in Area 51 and loads of little green men running around.
Simonized
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Freefall is the biggest anomaly of everything that's wrong to do with the attack.
TangerTonyGreen
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I think times3 got his hands on that massive coke stash, and is subsequently just being a k n ob
BFC_BFC_BFC
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I’am accusing people of conspiracy?
You’ll be telling me there’s an alien craft next in area 53.
Why would I be telling you that?
I’ve not said anything about 9/11 other than there are several things that are odd / unusual.
Like I said, it’s you and your pals who seem obsessed with peddling lies.