ST sales

Wizaard said:
Don't agree. Has no bearing on the decision to buy one. Anyone who switches allegiance to save £30 or £40 a season can do one as far as I'm concerned.
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I didn't say people switched allegiances, only that when your neighbours are priced cheaper it affects how our fans think about our prices.

A bit like if all other clubs charged 500 we'd think ours was an absolute bargain.
 
JJpool said:
I didn't say people switched allegiances, only that when your neighbours are priced cheaper it affects how our fans think about our prices.

A bit like if all other clubs charged 500 we'd think ours was an absolute bargain.
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So you must be content were priced around 16th in the Division?
 
Wizaard said:
So you must be content were priced around 16th in the Division?
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A lot of teams are from down south, so can't really compare too much there.

The local ones are more relevant.

The Wigan one for eg, their version of the north or south was 329 and included tons of extras like 1st cup game free, 10% off at the shop, some more free tickets etc. They don't seem to have a family area which I've said is priced well in there, but only holds 800 and has conditions.

On here we discussed tons of extras, like above or with lounges etc, we could have been far more creative and even catered for those who don't mind paying a bit more for some things.

We also have to factor in the wealth of the area and the fact if any club needed to grow the fanbase, it's us given our unique past.
 
Wizaard said:
So you can use price as a stick to beat the club, but then find excuses for other clubs being dearer.

OK.
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Hardly an excuse that southern clubs are dearer, wages are far higher down south.

It's not a stick to beat the club with either, I'll be buying, but will all other fans buy into it? Looking at social media the announcement was met with a really poor reaction.

If we manage to retain most the ST sales then I'll openly admit it's worked.
 
Phil_bfc deux said:
Before the Premier season under the Oystons we used to get between 4 an 6k

Be more like that I reckon

At that price they won't sell themselves and I can't see the club doing much in the way of marketing or PR

I can see club waiting until the early bird finishes before they appoint a manager at this rate

It's season ticket suicide
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“Season ticket suicide”…..good song title
Wizaard said:
Don't agree. Has no bearing on the decision to buy one. Anyone who switches allegiance to save £30 or £40 a season can do one as far as I'm concerned.
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he ain’t talking about changing allegiances mate
 
King Billy said:
Problem with the boycott is a lot of fans support is now conditional.
Either do what I want or I won’t buy.

The Oyston boycott was an exceptional circumstance. Now it just feels like some won’t renew because they don’t like the pies.
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I’d not considered the pie aspect so thanks for mentioning ! If I base the decision on cheese and onion it’s a definite renewal but the meat and potato one was bloody awful so that’s a definite no #piedecisions
 
Love BFC🍊 said:
I’ve always been there past 35 years too but after this last season we have decided to wait for now and see how the land lies
For example if critchley was re appointed it would be a NO from us 5
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So you've sat through the dire football of Hendry, McDonald, Lee Clark, Worthington, Paul Ince and others but will punish the 'club you love' if they reappoint the best coach we've had for years.
 
1953 said:
So you've sat through the dire football of Hendry, McDonald, Lee Clark, Worthington, Paul Ince and others but will punish the 'club you love' if they reappoint the best coach we've had for years.
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Best coach for years really ?? Gary Bowyer was fine as a manager and look at the crap he put up with ? Look at his( critchley) tenure towards the end? Didn’t he send all( most) the players on holiday early especially the last 2 games lost at home to a relegated derby county and 5-0 against relegated Peterborough. The football wasn’t great to watch either was it.
At the end of the day it will be our decision and will make it when we’re ready if that’s ok
 
Love BFC🍊 said:
Best coach for years really ?? Gary Bowyer was fine as a manager and look at the crap he put up with ? Look at his( critchley) tenure towards the end? Didn’t he send all( most) the players on holiday early especially the last 2 games lost at home to a relegated derby county and 5-0 against relegated Peterborough. The football wasn’t great to watch either was it.
At the end of the day it will be our decision and will make it when we’re ready if that’s ok
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So your comparing Critchley reign about the last two games conveniently forgetting the previous 3 when we put 6 past Birmingham beat Barnsley and drew at play off side Luton.
Short memories some.
 
Critch, no matter how good he may be for us, would divide the fanbase, & we've see how bad that can be..
 
poolseasider said:
What utter rubbish the majority of any outgoings goes on players wages are Northern clubs paying less are they hell.
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How's it utter rubbish? Almost everything costs more down south, people are paid more.

Lots of things a club wants done will cost more, so of course they have to charge more or they'll lose out.
 
Love BFC🍊 said:
Best coach for years really ?? Gary Bowyer was fine as a manager and look at the crap he put up with ? Look at his( critchley) tenure towards the end? Didn’t he send all( most) the players on holiday early especially the last 2 games lost at home to a relegated derby county and 5-0 against relegated Peterborough. The football wasn’t great to watch either was it.
At the end of the day it will be our decision and will make it when we’re ready if that’s ok
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Fine - it's your decision - but 'at the end of the day' your username's a misnomer. Your love for BFC is conditional on who the manager is. Try changing your name to 'Love BFC if certain parameters are met - otherwise I throw my toys out of the pram'
 
LA1 Seasider said:
Season tickets renewed and going off what the staff at the club are saying plenty of fans have done the same.

Now though SS needs to get his finger out and give the fans something back. Whether that’s actually announcing a manager, appointing a sporting director or even just giving us some sort of communication.

We’ve had weeks, perhaps months to be working on some of this stuff and whilst our rivals are already making signings for next season we appear to be completely standing still. Whilst hopefully there is plenty of progress going on behind the scenes and something good is in the offing it’s pretty important that whatever that looks like happens sooner rather than later.

We’ve got to be at it from Day 1 next season and surely preparation is key for the new team.
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Added this to this thread, going to be keeping track of how many we sell.

So far this is the first snippet of info, I think.

Take it no numbers mentioned, only early of course.

How many do you think we'll sell?
 
As it stands, I think we'll sell around 6k season tickets, and average around 8k next season.
With some good PR, and some intent shown with the managerial appointment and player recruitment, we might push over the 9k average.
Just my opinion. The pricing structure has been a missed opportunity (yet again!), but I'm not going to get angry or annoyed about it, it's just depressingly predictable at this point. I'll be renewing regardless.
 
JJpool said:
Added this to this thread, going to be keeping track of how many we sell.

So far this is the first snippet of info, I think.

Take it no numbers mentioned, only early of course.

How many do you think we'll sell?
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Personally think we’ll get about 80-90% of people renewing. So would expect 7000-8000 or so. I think it depends largely on what the next couple of days and weeks bring though. New manager, sporting director some positive media and even a few signings and those ticket sales obviously jump. It’s even possible we match or increase on last seasons sales with the promise of a positive season ahead. I don’t think price is the major factor this time as it’s competitively priced. I think the clusterfuck of the last season is key and some/any communication from the club and some action to back it up will make the world of difference
 
Which stand do we need think will have the fewest renewals?

The West don’t forget is the most affected by natural attrition of the grim reaper 😞
 
Phil_bfc deux said:
Before the Premier season under the Oystons we used to get between 4 an 6k

Be more like that I reckon

At that price they won't sell themselves and I can't see the club doing much in the way of marketing or PR

I can see club waiting until the early bird finishes before they appoint a manager at this rate

It's season ticket suicide
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It’s a bit of a game of poker, with fans disappointed and shocked at the lack of communication, and waiting to renew. I don’t think that’s being fickle as has been said, and I don’t think fans will choose not to renew because they’d prefer a different manager. It’s just been so poor from a communication point of view, and I’d describe myself as a moderate in terms of being critical.

For me that’s absolutely the right approach, for fans to keep the club focussed. We must never forget recent history, it’s down to us to ensure that whoever the custodian is, they treat paying customers with due respect. All of the criticism is down to poor communication.
 
TimperleyTangerine said:
It’s a bit of a game of poker, with fans disappointed and shocked at the lack of communication, and waiting to renew. I don’t think that’s being fickle as has been said, and I don’t think fans will choose not to renew because they’d prefer a different manager. It’s just been so poor from a communication point of view, and I’d describe myself as a moderate in terms of being critical.

For me that’s absolutely the right approach, for fans to keep the club focussed. We must never forget recent history, it’s down to us to ensure that whoever the custodian is, thewith witn an elderly y treat paying customers with due respect. All of the criticism is down to poor communication.
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Spot on Timperley especially the lack of communication, which brings me too a conversation I had recently with an elderly Blackpool fan who was concerned he hadn't a smartphone and wouldn't be able to use one .

Okay next season there will be still an plastic card but what about the future will the elderly be cast aside ?
 
BFC59 said:
Spot on Timperley especially the lack of communication, which brings me too a conversation I had recently with an elderly Blackpool fan who was concerned he hadn't a smartphone and wouldn't be able to use one .

Okay next season there will be still a plastic card but what about the future will the elderly be cast aside ?
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You appear to have edited my post when you quoted it. Think you typed into the quote. I get your point.
 
BFC59 said:
Spot on Timperley especially the lack of communication, which brings me too a conversation I had recently with an elderly Blackpool fan who was concerned he hadn't a smartphone and wouldn't be able to use one .

Okay next season there will be still an plastic card but what about the future will the elderly be cast aside ?
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How elderly?
 
LA1 Seasider said:
Personally think we’ll get about 80-90% of people renewing. So would expect 7000-8000 or so. I think it depends largely on what the next couple of days and weeks bring though. New manager, sporting director some positive media and even a few signings and those ticket sales obviously jump. It’s even possible we match or increase on last seasons sales with the promise of a positive season ahead. I don’t think price is the major factor this time as it’s competitively priced. I think the clusterfuck of the last season is key and some/any communication from the club and some action to back it up will make the world of difference
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We had a bit over 8k ST I think, I'd be pretty happy with 7k at 349 only 20 quid less in a league below, but can't see it.

Then again we will have grown somewhat and now the club has a proper database, to market existing customers etc, which I don't think they had early in the new reign.

But marketing hasn't been the best from the club, the mood can all change with announcements soon but they do seem to be dragging on.

It's true its possible to match last seasons ST total with some real positive announcements but tbh the only realistic way we'd match last seasons ST total was to hit the right price point, we haven't done that.
 
Chunkylad said:
Which stand do we need think will have the fewest renewals?

The West don’t forget is the most affected by natural attrition of the grim reaper 😞
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Not sure but the south will be the emptiest as usual.

Could well be the west given the reason stated also the middle blocks are higly priced, especially for league 1.
 
JJpool said:
Hardly an excuse that southern clubs are dearer, wages are far higher down south.

It's not a stick to beat the club with either, I'll be buying, but will all other fans buy into it? Looking at social media the announcement was met with a really poor reaction.

If we manage to retain most the ST sales then I'll openly admit it's worked.
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Wages may be far higher but so is everything else; house prices/rent, transport, food and drinks. I suspect disposable income isn't as far apart as you are imagining, so is less of a factor than the point you are trying to make.

Our season ticket prices are probably about right, my issue is with the card charge and walk on prices. The club need to scrub the former and maybe look at offering multi-ticket deals. I.e. 6 for £120.
 
Chunkylad said:
Which stand do we need think will have the fewest renewals?

The West don’t forget is the most affected by natural attrition of the grim reaper 😞
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I sit in the West Stand with my ST and I will be buying it again this year mainly because I am an optimistic kind of person and I want to look forward to my team winning week after week. It didn't happen last season but next season I hope it will. There were times last season when I wondered why I kept going especially during the match when we looked helpless but I still turned up for the next match. Dare I say that I am looking forward to next season because after poor management last season, I expect, and hope for better this next season and I hope that other supporters will have the same attitude but hey it's up to individuals. I still trust in Mr Sadler.
 
NewburyOne said:
Wages may be far higher but so is everything else; house prices/rent, transport, food and drinks. I suspect disposable income isn't as far apart as you are imagining, so is less of a factor than the point you are trying to make.

Our season ticket prices are probably about right, my issue is with the card charge and walk on prices. The club need to scrub the former and maybe look at offering multi-ticket deals. I.e. 6 for £120.
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The point was there was little point comparing to some clubs down south on price, as everything is higher.

When comparing to clubs in and around us ours is on the hugher side, but lacks any extras like many clubs get or given the wealth of the area, doesn't hit a price point that excites people. You can see this in the reaction to the ST release on all forms of social media. It didn't hit home that's for sure. If any fanbase needed a lower priced strategy it's us.

It's all about positive PR and generating a buzz, had we announced Dobbie for eg or another highly rated manager, 299 and pushed hard to fill the stadium, we'd probably be able to retain most of the 8k ST holders and add some new.

There'd be a real feelgood going into the season.

As it is now we seem to be stuck waiting for a sporting director when we should have had this appointment tied up early on.

It can still turn positive and the club can spring into life, however the club hasn't yet shown it can really generate a buzz, or be willing to hit prices that'll attract the masses.
 
Got three yesterday - they said the ST sales were actually going quite well considering we had no manager , and it was only a few days to go before payday for many
 
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