Summer Transfer Rumours trois - Will Appy (re)sign anyone?

voyeur said:
Nothing is difficult in your world obviously. Just chuck more money at everything!
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You want the product you pay the asking price.
Although in this case I’am pretty sure we’d get him for a lot less than 500k.
If we won’t budge on our 200k offer then he’s not a high priority for us so move on.
You can’t blame Shamrock for holding out for a decent fee that’s what we did with Bowler remember or have you forgot?
 
Jaffa_The_Hut said:
You want the product you pay the asking price.
Although in this case I’am pretty sure we’d get him for a lot less than 500k.
If we won’t budge on our 200k offer then he’s not a high priority for us so move on.
You can’t blame Shamrock for holding out for a decent fee that’s what we did with Bowler remember or have you forgot?
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It is, and both Bournemouth and Forest couldn’t get the man they wanted, I wonder if their fans were crying about it at the time?

It happens to every club, if we want Lyons enough then we will pay an acceptable fee.
 
Lost Seasider said:
£350,000 is a lot of money for a player who's never played outside LoI, even £200,000 is a lot of money for that.
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It might have been 10 years ago but not now, the lad is young, contracted and has international caps. I would say £200K is a bargain, hopefully £300K with add-ons will get our man.
 
Jaffa_The_Hut said:
You want the product you pay the asking price.
Although in this case I’am pretty sure we’d get him for a lot less than 500k.
If we won’t budge on our 200k offer then he’s not a high priority for us so move on.
You can’t blame Shamrock for holding out for a decent fee that’s what we did with Bowler remember or have you forgot?
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It's a negotiation. Both sides have a value they think the player is worth, it doesn't always end in agreement. You don't pay over the odds, it's no way to run a business.
 
voyeur said:
It's a negotiation. Both sides have a value they think the player is worth, it doesn't always end in agreement. You don't pay over the odds, it's no way to run a business.
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Couldn’t be agree more.
That’s why I said meet in the middle but if our valuation of him is 200k and we’re not prepared to pay a penny more then we seriously need to look at what our priorities actually are as a championship club and staying in it.
 
voyeur said:
Lavery was at Everton and Hoolahan played for Livingston.
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He didn’t play a game for Everton though did he? Played a short spell on loan at Falkirk.
And I mentioned Scotland with Hoolahan which you cheekily left off. 😉
Perhaps I should have referenced both never played in England before we signed them.
 
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Jaffa_The_Hut said:
Couldn’t be agree more.
That’s why I said meet in the middle but if our valuation of him is 200k and we’re not prepared to pay a penny more then we seriously need to look at what our priorities actually are as a championship club and staying in it.
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Who said we are not prepared to pay a penny more? You keep assuming stuff, based on knowing very little. I am pretty confident that Sadler and co have reasonable prioritities and a decent idea of how to go about making them happen. But don't let it get in the way of a good grumble!
 
Jaffa_The_Hut said:
He didn’t play a game for Everton though did he? Played a short spell on loan at Falkirk.
And I mentioned Scotland with Hoolahan which you cheekily left off. 😉
Perhaps I should have referenced both never played in England before we signed them.
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Ok. But they also both cost us nothing! IIRC. Hoolahan maybe 200k ish?
 
NewburyOne said:
It might have been 10 years ago but not now, the lad is young, contracted and has international caps. I would say £200K is a bargain, hopefully £300K with add-ons will get our man.
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Championship money hasn't changed that much over the last ten years, and how many clubs in this division are going to spend that sort of money on an unproven RB, who for most of them would be an academy player?
 
GeoffBFC said:
It was a Champions League game, will look better on his CV. Shamrock would also hope to progress so played their strongest team. After the result it seems unlikely that they will qualify so will accept our offer as they don't look like that they will have any more Champions League money.
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It's actually very hard to get out of European football, Rovers unlikely to advance now in Champions League but will get further action in Europa Cup or failing that Europa Challenge league.

Will earn good money by Irish standards.

As the best club in Ireland they are the worst to deal with, unless players have some sort of get out clause they are only sold for big money, for example Liam Scales to Celtic.

Other Irish clubs seem to have players with such clauses for example my local club Bohemians who have just sold star striker Promise Omachere to the cods for a small fee, some on here will be able to report on him soon?

Some papers over here are reporting Lyons valued at 500k (Euros)!
 
tangerinedub said:
It's actually very hard to get out of European football, Rovers unlikely to advance now in Champions League but will get further action in Europa Cup or failing that Europa Challenge league.

Will earn good money by Irish standards.

As the best club in Ireland they are the worst to deal with, unless players have some sort of get out clause they are only sold for big money, for example Liam Scales to Celtic.

Other Irish clubs seem to have players with such clauses for example my local club Bohemians who have just sold star striker Promise Omachere to the cods for a small fee, some on here will be able to report on him soon?

Some papers over here are reporting Lyons valued at 500k (Euros)!
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He has a get out clause when his contract expires in November next year. They don’t hold all the cards.
 
Lads, just on the Andy Lyons situation I'd feel pretty safe in saying I'm uniquely positioned on the topic. I'm a season ticket holder at Shamrock Rovers (Rovers for short) but I have lots of family in Blackpool and try to get to a couple games a year. So Blackpool would be my english team. I actually had an account here years ago but all the stunts the Oystons were pulling were just annoying me too much so I stopped posting and I think the site migrated a couple years ago and I didn't remake the account just browsed as a guest.

(All my figures will be in euros btw)
At Rovers release clauses tend to be restricted to players coming into their mid 20s who know if a bid comes in for them waiting a year may be too long but also want the security of a 2/3 year contract. These players include Mandroiu who went to Lincoln for a 5 figure fee, and Aaron McEneff who went to Hearts for 250-300k. Effectively its players who come to the club pretty close to fully developed and sign based on the club saying we'll give them the stage to earn a move.
Lyons doesn't have a release clause from what I've heard, and his contract that he signed in January was at least a 2 year deal but I've heard it could have been a 3 year deal.
He has been very open about wanting to test himself in the UK but he also turned down several English clubs to sign for Rovers in January so he'll want the right move.
Players in Ireland aren't paid a lot but if I heard Lyons was on 1k a week it wouldn't surprise me so he'd likely get a pay bump at Blackpool but finances won't be the deciding point for him.

From a club pov it costs Rovers about 2.5m to operate each year last I heard, the club had money in the bank going into this season and earned a post tax profit of about 0.4m last year. Only debts the club really has are to a multi millionaire lifelong fan who owns 25% of the club and that debt is structured in a way that as he is paid back his share shrinks. Another 25% is owned by Dermot Desmond and the remainder by a fans group. So what I'm getting at here is financially the club is okay, unlike a lot of Irish clubs.
So far this season Rovers have earned 1.3m from Europe and 1.7m from clauses for Gavin Bazunu. So before getting to other income streams the club has basically covered its operating costs.

So financially there's not really too much of an onus on Rovers to sell Lyons below their valuation.

I've covered some previous transfers above but the non release clause transfers that would give a better idea of what Rovers value Lyons at are:
Gavin Bazunu to Man City at 16 years old, 500k up front, 100k per international cap (max 10) and 15/20% of any sale, various other clauses.
Liam Scales to Celtic, 600k up front, various clauses.
Graham Burke to Preston, 450k up front, various other clauses. Rovers then loaned him back for two seasons with Preston paying part his wages then resigned him on a free.
Trevor Clarke went to Rotherham for 150-200k, He was in the final 6 months of his contract at Rovers.

Rovers sporting director is Stephen McPhail (Ex Leeds and Cardiff, played 2010 play off final), our manager used to be Arsenals head scout in Ireland and has close ties to Wenger, Graham Barrett (Ex Arsenal and Cov) is a coach at the club too and a pretty high profile football agent.
Basically what I'm saying is the club is full of people who know how football works meaning they won't hold out for a ridiculous fee but will get what they believe is deserved. Obviously there's Desmond's Celtic expertise too.


As far as the deal being done is concerned, Rovers have just sent their equivalent of Callum Chambers (ie utility defender/DM) out on loan which I doubt Rovers would do if Rovers were about to lose a player in one of the positions Lyons covers.

If anyone has any questions about Lyons of the transfer ask away.
Tbh my opinion is hes leaving Rovers at some point and I'd like a Blackpool kit with Lyons on the back but the fee has to be right for both clubs and I'm not sure thats possible.
 
SeasideHoop said:
Lads, just on the Andy Lyons situation I'd feel pretty safe in saying I'm uniquely positioned on the topic. I'm a season ticket holder at Shamrock Rovers (Rovers for short) but I have lots of family in Blackpool and try to get to a couple games a year. So Blackpool would be my english team. I actually had an account here years ago but all the stunts the Oystons were pulling were just annoying me too much so I stopped posting and I think the site migrated a couple years ago and I didn't remake the account just browsed as a guest.

(All my figures will be in euros btw)
At Rovers release clauses tend to be restricted to players coming into their mid 20s who know if a bid comes in for them waiting a year may be too long but also want the security of a 2/3 year contract. These players include Mandroiu who went to Lincoln for a 5 figure fee, and Aaron McEneff who went to Hearts for 250-300k. Effectively its players who come to the club pretty close to fully developed and sign based on the club saying we'll give them the stage to earn a move.
Lyons doesn't have a release clause from what I've heard, and his contract that he signed in January was at least a 2 year deal but I've heard it could have been a 3 year deal.
He has been very open about wanting to test himself in the UK but he also turned down several English clubs to sign for Rovers in January so he'll want the right move.
Players in Ireland aren't paid a lot but if I heard Lyons was on 1k a week it wouldn't surprise me so he'd likely get a pay bump at Blackpool but finances won't be the deciding point for him.

From a club pov it costs Rovers about 2.5m to operate each year last I heard, the club had money in the bank going into this season and earned a post tax profit of about 0.4m last year. Only debts the club really has are to a multi millionaire lifelong fan who owns 25% of the club and that debt is structured in a way that as he is paid back his share shrinks. Another 25% is owned by Dermot Desmond and the remainder by a fans group. So what I'm getting at here is financially the club is okay, unlike a lot of Irish clubs.
So far this season Rovers have earned 1.3m from Europe and 1.7m from clauses for Gavin Bazunu. So before getting to other income streams the club has basically covered its operating costs.

So financially there's not really too much of an onus on Rovers to sell Lyons below their valuation.

I've covered some previous transfers above but the non release clause transfers that would give a better idea of what Rovers value Lyons at are:
Gavin Bazunu to Man City at 16 years old, 500k up front, 100k per international cap (max 10) and 15/20% of any sale, various other clauses.
Liam Scales to Celtic, 600k up front, various clauses.
Graham Burke to Preston, 450k up front, various other clauses. Rovers then loaned him back for two seasons with Preston paying part his wages then resigned him on a free.
Trevor Clarke went to Rotherham for 150-200k, He was in the final 6 months of his contract at Rovers.

Rovers sporting director is Stephen McPhail (Ex Leeds and Cardiff, played 2010 play off final), our manager used to be Arsenals head scout in Ireland and has close ties to Wenger, Graham Barrett (Ex Arsenal and Cov) is a coach at the club too and a pretty high profile football agent.
Basically what I'm saying is the club is full of people who know how football works meaning they won't hold out for a ridiculous fee but will get what they believe is deserved. Obviously there's Desmond's Celtic expertise too.


As far as the deal being done is concerned, Rovers have just sent their equivalent of Callum Chambers (ie utility defender/DM) out on loan which I doubt Rovers would do if Rovers were about to lose a player in one of the positions Lyons covers.

If anyone has any questions about Lyons of the transfer ask away.
Tbh my opinion is hes leaving Rovers at some point and I'd like a Blackpool kit with Lyons on the back but the fee has to be right for both clubs and I'm not sure thats possible.
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Interesting insight thanks. How do you rate him as a player? Is he ready for the Championship do you think?
 
Superbretty said:
Interesting insight thanks. How do you rate him as a player? Is he ready for the Championship do you think?
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My honest answer is its really hard to know. Purely because there's no doubt hes technically able for it, the question is would he be physically able for it. The LOI is a very young and our best players tend to be very technical, it's when that physical aspect of the extra yard of pace, extra few inches, etc is introduced that players from our league sometimes struggle. He's very like a full back version of Wes Hoolanhan if that comparison makes sense. Having seen the improvement in his physical attributes since he joined us I have no doubt he'll be able for it one day but if he could hit the ground running is the question I'd have.

Also we play with wing backs and he plays as a sort of inverted left wing back cutting in so he'll need time to adapt to that too, that said he took to left wing back like a duck to water this season when he was thrown in there.
 
SeasideHoop said:
Lads, just on the Andy Lyons situation I'd feel pretty safe in saying I'm uniquely positioned on the topic. I'm a season ticket holder at Shamrock Rovers (Rovers for short) but I have lots of family in Blackpool and try to get to a couple games a year. So Blackpool would be my english team. I actually had an account here years ago but all the stunts the Oystons were pulling were just annoying me too much so I stopped posting and I think the site migrated a couple years ago and I didn't remake the account just browsed as a guest.

(All my figures will be in euros btw)
At Rovers release clauses tend to be restricted to players coming into their mid 20s who know if a bid comes in for them waiting a year may be too long but also want the security of a 2/3 year contract. These players include Mandroiu who went to Lincoln for a 5 figure fee, and Aaron McEneff who went to Hearts for 250-300k. Effectively its players who come to the club pretty close to fully developed and sign based on the club saying we'll give them the stage to earn a move.
Lyons doesn't have a release clause from what I've heard, and his contract that he signed in January was at least a 2 year deal but I've heard it could have been a 3 year deal.
He has been very open about wanting to test himself in the UK but he also turned down several English clubs to sign for Rovers in January so he'll want the right move.
Players in Ireland aren't paid a lot but if I heard Lyons was on 1k a week it wouldn't surprise me so he'd likely get a pay bump at Blackpool but finances won't be the deciding point for him.

From a club pov it costs Rovers about 2.5m to operate each year last I heard, the club had money in the bank going into this season and earned a post tax profit of about 0.4m last year. Only debts the club really has are to a multi millionaire lifelong fan who owns 25% of the club and that debt is structured in a way that as he is paid back his share shrinks. Another 25% is owned by Dermot Desmond and the remainder by a fans group. So what I'm getting at here is financially the club is okay, unlike a lot of Irish clubs.
So far this season Rovers have earned 1.3m from Europe and 1.7m from clauses for Gavin Bazunu. So before getting to other income streams the club has basically covered its operating costs.

So financially there's not really too much of an onus on Rovers to sell Lyons below their valuation.

I've covered some previous transfers above but the non release clause transfers that would give a better idea of what Rovers value Lyons at are:
Gavin Bazunu to Man City at 16 years old, 500k up front, 100k per international cap (max 10) and 15/20% of any sale, various other clauses.
Liam Scales to Celtic, 600k up front, various clauses.
Graham Burke to Preston, 450k up front, various other clauses. Rovers then loaned him back for two seasons with Preston paying part his wages then resigned him on a free.
Trevor Clarke went to Rotherham for 150-200k, He was in the final 6 months of his contract at Rovers.

Rovers sporting director is Stephen McPhail (Ex Leeds and Cardiff, played 2010 play off final), our manager used to be Arsenals head scout in Ireland and has close ties to Wenger, Graham Barrett (Ex Arsenal and Cov) is a coach at the club too and a pretty high profile football agent.
Basically what I'm saying is the club is full of people who know how football works meaning they won't hold out for a ridiculous fee but will get what they believe is deserved. Obviously there's Desmond's Celtic expertise too.


As far as the deal being done is concerned, Rovers have just sent their equivalent of Callum Chambers (ie utility defender/DM) out on loan which I doubt Rovers would do if Rovers were about to lose a player in one of the positions Lyons covers.

If anyone has any questions about Lyons of the transfer ask away.
Tbh my opinion is hes leaving Rovers at some point and I'd like a Blackpool kit with Lyons on the back but the fee has to be right for both clubs and I'm not sure thats possible.
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Wow I don't think there can be any more questions after that summary, talk about in the know!

I am a Blackpool supporter by birth but back in Ireland for yonks, Bohs are my Irish club but streets behind Rovers in all aspects.

When I said Rovers were the worst to deal with I meant for the club hoping to pick up a bargain.

All the best.
 
SeasideHoop said:
My honest answer is its really hard to know. Purely because there's no doubt hes technically able for it, the question is would he be physically able for it. The LOI is a very young and our best players tend to be very technical, it's when that physical aspect of the extra yard of pace, extra few inches, etc is introduced that players from our league sometimes struggle. He's very like a full back version of Wes Hoolanhan if that comparison makes sense. Having seen the improvement in his physical attributes since he joined us I have no doubt he'll be able for it one day but if he could hit the ground running is the question I'd have.

Also we play with wing backs and he plays as a sort of inverted left wing back cutting in so he'll need time to adapt to that too, that said he took to left wing back like a duck to water this season when he was thrown in there.
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Any sort of Wes Hoolahan is fine with me. 👍

Sign him up!!!
 
tangerinedub said:
Wow I don't think there can be any more questions after that summary, talk about in the know!

I am a Blackpool supporter by birth but back in Ireland for yonks, Bohs are my Irish club but streets behind Rovers in all aspects.

When I said Rovers were the worst to deal with I meant for the club hoping to pick up a bargain.

All the best.
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Honestly everything I said there is in the public realm I just know enough about both sides that I thought I'd just put all the stuff that could be relevant to the situation in one place for everyone.

Ah I got what you meant by worst to deal with. Took it as a compliment!
 
SeasideHoop said:
Lads, just on the Andy Lyons situation I'd feel pretty safe in saying I'm uniquely positioned on the topic. I'm a season ticket holder at Shamrock Rovers (Rovers for short) but I have lots of family in Blackpool and try to get to a couple games a year. So Blackpool would be my english team. I actually had an account here years ago but all the stunts the Oystons were pulling were just annoying me too much so I stopped posting and I think the site migrated a couple years ago and I didn't remake the account just browsed as a guest.

(All my figures will be in euros btw)
At Rovers release clauses tend to be restricted to players coming into their mid 20s who know if a bid comes in for them waiting a year may be too long but also want the security of a 2/3 year contract. These players include Mandroiu who went to Lincoln for a 5 figure fee, and Aaron McEneff who went to Hearts for 250-300k. Effectively its players who come to the club pretty close to fully developed and sign based on the club saying we'll give them the stage to earn a move.
Lyons doesn't have a release clause from what I've heard, and his contract that he signed in January was at least a 2 year deal but I've heard it could have been a 3 year deal.
He has been very open about wanting to test himself in the UK but he also turned down several English clubs to sign for Rovers in January so he'll want the right move.
Players in Ireland aren't paid a lot but if I heard Lyons was on 1k a week it wouldn't surprise me so he'd likely get a pay bump at Blackpool but finances won't be the deciding point for him.

From a club pov it costs Rovers about 2.5m to operate each year last I heard, the club had money in the bank going into this season and earned a post tax profit of about 0.4m last year. Only debts the club really has are to a multi millionaire lifelong fan who owns 25% of the club and that debt is structured in a way that as he is paid back his share shrinks. Another 25% is owned by Dermot Desmond and the remainder by a fans group. So what I'm getting at here is financially the club is okay, unlike a lot of Irish clubs.
So far this season Rovers have earned 1.3m from Europe and 1.7m from clauses for Gavin Bazunu. So before getting to other income streams the club has basically covered its operating costs.

So financially there's not really too much of an onus on Rovers to sell Lyons below their valuation.

I've covered some previous transfers above but the non release clause transfers that would give a better idea of what Rovers value Lyons at are:
Gavin Bazunu to Man City at 16 years old, 500k up front, 100k per international cap (max 10) and 15/20% of any sale, various other clauses.
Liam Scales to Celtic, 600k up front, various clauses.
Graham Burke to Preston, 450k up front, various other clauses. Rovers then loaned him back for two seasons with Preston paying part his wages then resigned him on a free.
Trevor Clarke went to Rotherham for 150-200k, He was in the final 6 months of his contract at Rovers.

Rovers sporting director is Stephen McPhail (Ex Leeds and Cardiff, played 2010 play off final), our manager used to be Arsenals head scout in Ireland and has close ties to Wenger, Graham Barrett (Ex Arsenal and Cov) is a coach at the club too and a pretty high profile football agent.
Basically what I'm saying is the club is full of people who know how football works meaning they won't hold out for a ridiculous fee but will get what they believe is deserved. Obviously there's Desmond's Celtic expertise too.


As far as the deal being done is concerned, Rovers have just sent their equivalent of Callum Chambers (ie utility defender/DM) out on loan which I doubt Rovers would do if Rovers were about to lose a player in one of the positions Lyons covers.

If anyone has any questions about Lyons of the transfer ask away.
Tbh my opinion is hes leaving Rovers at some point and I'd like a Blackpool kit with Lyons on the back but the fee has to be right for both clubs and I'm not sure thats possible.
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Sounds like we should be looking elsewhere then, maybe a loan move for Norton-Cuffy from Arsenal, or perhaps a bid for Poole from Lincoln, both established EFL players and probably cheaper than what SR are asking for.

Who's Callum Chambers, BTW?
 
voyeur said:
Any sort of Wes Hoolahan is fine with me. 👍

Sign him up!!!
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Just before I get peoples hopes up, I meant that as a "very good technically but his lack of size has prevented him getting the praise he probably deserves".
Hes very good on the ball don't get me wrong but Wessi was different level.
 
Lost Seasider said:
Sounds like we should be looking elsewhere then, maybe a loan move for Norton-Cuffy from Arsenal, or perhaps a bid for Poole from Lincoln, both established EFL players and probably cheaper than what SR are asking for.
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Sunderland Echo says about Poole:

"D3D4 also claim that Sunderland made an offer to sign the defender last summer with the Wearsiders offering £500k upfront and a further £250k in add-ons. However, the Imps rejected the bid and are said to value the player more around the £1 million mark.

"The Cardiff-born defender is set to enter into the final 12 months of his current deal meaning Lincoln City may be keen to receive money for the player this summer rather than losing an asset on a free next season.
 
SeasideHoop said:
Just before I get peoples hopes up, I meant that as a "very good technically but his lack of size has prevented him getting the praise he probably deserves".
Hes very good on the ball don't get me wrong but Wessi was different level.
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Don't worrh i was just paying homage to the Wesard. 👍

We have had 19 year old Rob Apter looking a bit like a Wes style left wing back during pre season, small but technically very gifted. Lyons may duplicate that somewhat although Apter is really a more attacking player.
 
Lost Seasider said:
Sounds like we should be looking elsewhere then, maybe a loan move for Norton-Cuffy from Arsenal, or perhaps a bid for Poole from Lincoln, both established EFL players and probably cheaper than what SR are asking for.

Who's Callum Chambers, BTW?
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My bad, I have Football manager open on the other screen and was in the process of negotiating for the former (has he moved now?) Arsenal defender and got my Callums mixed up! Meant Callum Connolly, who I know mainly does DM and RB but can do a job across the back.
 
SeasideHoop said:
Just before I get peoples hopes up, I meant that as a "very good technically but his lack of size has prevented him getting the praise he probably deserves".
Hes very good on the ball don't get me wrong but Wessi was different level.
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It is good to get a perspective from someone who has actually seen Lyons play. The Championship is a very physical league you either have to be very quick or very skilful (Wes) to get time on the ball. From what you describe Lyons is more of a technical player but we're looking for a right back or right wing back with Jordan Gabriel injured (or possibly on his way to Burnley). Gabriel is a great athlete but still learning and Dujon Sterling who we had on loan from Chelsea last year was a beast so no way will we splash out 500K on an untried youngster.

It's all about getting the best bang for your bucks and in this case there is the added input from Appleton who has worked with Regan Poole from Lincoln who probably fits the profile of what we're looking for, only problem is that Lincoln value him a lot higher that 500K but he is in the last year of his contract so there could be a deal to be done.
 
voyeur said:
Don't worrh i was just paying homage to the Wesard. 👍

We have had 19 year old Rob Apter looking a bit like a Wes style left wing back during pre season, small but technically very gifted. Lyons may duplicate that somewhat although Apter is really a more attacking player.
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For what its worth these goals sort of showcase his technical ability quite well, he wont be doing a million stepovers but he does the basics very very well and isn't afraid to run and the guy defending him.

Goal vs Shels
Goal vs Finn Harps
Goal vs Pats

He has also scored 3 headers and a tap in (against his former club and Rovers main local rivals) from corners too which probably shows his improving physicality.
 
Seainsea said:
It is good to get a perspective from someone who has actually seen Lyons play. The Championship is a very physical league you either have to be very quick or very skilful (Wes) to get time on the ball. From what you describe Lyons is more of a technical player but we're looking for a right back or right wing back with Jordan Gabriel injured (or possibly on his way to Burnley). Gabriel is a great athlete but still learning and Dujon Sterling who we had on loan from Chelsea last year was a beast so no way will we splash out 500K on an untried youngster.

It's all about getting the best bang for your bucks and in this case there is the added input from Appleton who has worked with Regan Poole from Lincoln who probably fits the profile of what we're looking for, only problem is that Lincoln value him a lot higher that 500K but he is in the last year of his contract so there could be a deal to be done.
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That's basically been my thinking since the start, is he worth 500k, absolutely, is he worth 500k to Blackpool, that isn't as certain.
 
500k pushes Lyons into Regan Poole territory I guess. However, Poole is a right back. Lyons may be seen as back up left back, and therefore not one to spend bigger on. Perhaps. We may see him as a useful addition at the right price, but not prepared to go higher than 2/300k.

Seems pretty 2 footed?
 
Lost Seasider said:
Are the likes of City, Celtic or any of the other big clubs in for him?
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I know theres been a good few scout watching him but from who I don't know. I would imagine there'd be a fair few clubs waiting to see how he get on in Europe. With the conference league theres a good chance of him playing group stage football which would probably give scouts a better idea of his level.
 
Ormergod said:
@SeasideHoop how is his delivery from out wide?Not much to go off on the highlights
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There's not that much of a sample size tbh, Rovers play with inverted full backs so they tend to be too narrow for a traditional cross when they get the ball. The couple of crosses he have been quite good from what I can remember, wouldn't stand out as a weakness anyway.
 
If we are targeting Lyons as a left back/ wing back, which I think it is now starting to look like we need, then I think we might be better spending this sort of money elsewhere as I think Apter is looking more assured with every game, and this guy sounds very similar.
 
Good point mid-general (in my view) - sounds like Apter would be just like Lyons. Plus we have Garbutt and Husband too, along with Thornily, CUR, Williams and Tharme so surely our defence is in a good place. We're more in need of additional class in midfield and perhaps upfront. Connolly gets my vote as defensive mid in the Makelele role. He's continually developing into a confident hard case who can play the piano too.
 
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