Summer Transfer Rumours trois - Will Appy (re)sign anyone?

poolfc said:
That's right but I doubt he's going to be the second coming of Trent Alexander Arnold or Kyle Walker or anyone like that. And it would maybe be good business sense to take a fee now to get out of the long term contract he's on and start again. Ideally with both full back positions. Though if they can get Husbands dodgy hamstrings sorted he's probably the closest to someone who can just get on with it and do a job of allowing the winger in front to play their game.
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I'm not sure how out and out wingers fit in a 4-3-3.
 
Jaffa_The_Hut said:
Nobbers chasing Sterling if you believe it.

I remember reading on penisonline last season when we signed him that he would be out of his depth in the championship.

I bet he’ll be a fantastic signing now if they do get him. 🤣
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🤣‘penisonline’ now there’s something I wouldn’t be googling
 
Mane and Salah.
Foden and Mahrez.
Elanga and Sancho.

You need goals from these players. Bowler and CJ haven't scored or created enough. And our full backs can't cross a ball.

These things hampered Critch. He needed more quality in those areas.
 
Philbfctrois said:
I'm just stating a fact

Someone was saying we are splashing the cash, we are not by any means
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Never said we were splashing the cash, there are undoubtedly teams in the Championship spending much more than us.

Only stating the amounts that we are reportedly bidding as a rebuttal to certain people on here who have been insinuating that we "have no money" or "are skint" because we clearly are not.
 
voyeur said:
Mane and Salah.
Foden and Mahrez.
Elanga and Sancho.

You need goals from these players. Bowler and CJ haven't scored or created enough. And our full backs can't cross a ball.

These things hampered Critch. He needed more quality in those areas.
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He should have identified some then, he was supposed to have been the king of talent spotting, we got Woodburn and John Jules, Dale and Kirk, all of them absolutely shite. Simms and Sterling excellent, Wintle was okay but he looked better than he was because the alternatives were worse.

If we’re going to play 3 up front then they will play more narrow and go out wide on the break, Critch played with 2 inverted wingers who stuck out wide in the main and we had a striker in the middle. Paper’s won’t get them to play like that
 
voyeur said:
Mane and Salah.
Foden and Mahrez.
Elanga and Sancho.

You need goals from these players. Bowler and CJ haven't scored or created enough. And our full backs can't cross a ball.

These things hampered Critch. He needed more quality in those areas.
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Don't agree with the Bowler part to be honest. He was a one man band often last season and yes at times could have created more. He also had an immobile striker to play with often. Our formation isolated him often against 3-5-2 with wing backs meaning the left wing back and left centre back would double up on him. With Gabriel he was far more effective as Gabriel would use up one of those players. With Sterling who wasn't as adventurous he was left on his own.

CJ is just shite tbh and doesn't need an analysis.
 
Insider said:
According to Nixon bringing Williams in is now "down to the player".
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Seems to be taking a while. You'd think if you knew your club are happy for you to head out on loan you'd want it done. I'd suspect he's got his agent heading around to see what other clubs fancy him on loan.
 
We aren't long out of League One and not that long since the Oystons, and average about 11k at home. Championship funding isnt that much. Sadler has put quite a bit in already, between 5 and 10 million I'd imagine, for infrastructure and Covid reasons mainly.

The game is just such a steep pyramid these days. Most of the teams on a similar financial footing to us are in league One, and we compete with them for players. Most of the teams above us are on a different level budget wise. We need to fund a massive ladder somehow, or accept where we are and seek to keep improving within our means.

What could the ladder be? An investor like Belokon, without the dodgy connections. But Sadler doesnt seem keen.
 
hertfordseasider said:
He should have identified some then, he was supposed to have been the king of talent spotting, we got Woodburn and John Jules, Dale and Kirk, all of them absolutely shite. Simms and Sterling excellent, Wintle was okay but he looked better than he was because the alternatives were worse.

If we’re going to play 3 up front then they will play more narrow and go out wide on the break, Critch played with 2 inverted wingers who stuck out wide in the main and we had a striker in the middle. Paper’s won’t get them to play like that
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Budget.
 
AmericanTangerine said:
Never said we were splashing the cash, there are undoubtedly teams in the Championship spending much more than us.

Only stating the amounts that we are reportedly bidding as a rebuttal to certain people on here who have been insinuating that we "have no money" or "are skint" because we clearly are not.
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There is a big difference between being skint or having money yet not wanting to spend it

I think we are the latter
 
SeasideKurt said:
Don't agree with the Bowler part to be honest. He was a one man band often last season and yes at times could have created more. He also had an immobile striker to play with often. Our formation isolated him often against 3-5-2 with wing backs meaning the left wing back and left centre back would double up on him. With Gabriel he was far more effective as Gabriel would use up one of those players. With Sterling who wasn't as adventurous he was left on his own.

CJ is just shite tbh and doesn't need an analysis.
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Bowler had a purple patch after the January window closed. Either side of that he was great to watch but ran into blind alleys repeatedly.
 
Philbfctrois said:
There is a big difference between being skint or having money yet not wanting to spend it

I think we are the latter
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We absolutely are not in the latter.

The board have backed the manager in every window since Sadler has taken over, I think they have given the manager the most amount of money they possibly could have given our stature, finances, what Sadler can give, etc.

It's not a case of us having money and refusing to spend, it's a case of us having money and choosing to spend it wisely.

In your mind you've convinced yourself that because we didn't make signings early on in the window that the club were refusing to spend money that they had to spend, this was not the case at all, you jumped to conclusions.

A plethora of reports have come out about how we are putting bids in for players all over the place, sure they haven't come off yet, but the sources are credible and I for one am confident that they will because I trust the board.

Do you really still believe that Sadler is just sitting on a pile of money, choosing not to spend it? Because every indication to me is that they are prepared to get the checkbook out any minute now...
 
AmericanTangerine said:
We absolutely are not in the latter.

The board have backed the manager in every window since Sadler has taken over, I think they have given the manager the most amount of money they possibly could have given our stature, finances, what Sadler can give, etc.

It's not a case of us having money and refusing to spend, it's a case of us having money and choosing to spend it wisely.

In your mind you've convinced yourself that because we didn't make signings early on in the window that the club were refusing to spend money that they had to spend, this was not the case at all, you jumped to conclusions.

A plethora of reports have come out about how we are putting bids in for players all over the place, sure they haven't come off yet, but the sources are credible and I for one am confident that they will because I trust the board.

Do you really still believe that Sadler is just sitting on a pile of money, choosing not to spend it? Because every indication to me is that they are prepared to get the checkbook out any minute now...
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All guesswork that

The whole lot of it
 
Philbfctrois said:
Are you saying Mr Sadler hasn't got money?

If so what the fcuk was he playing at buying a football club
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Of course hes got money, he's put/putting loads in. Our income doesn't cover our outgoings. Anywhere near.

The teams above us mostly have massive funding from EPL funds and/or Chinese, Middle Eastern, American and Russian investors. Some clubs have been bought by people who took out mortgages against the club and have put them into massive debt. How many British owners put in more than Sadler?

Sadler is funding the club in the manner he has chosen. He paid for ghe right to do that and he win a tender for it. We coukd be loads worse off. Its the best we've ever had in fact, and way better than I imagined us having. Weve gone from League One strugglers to Championship comfort in very little time. I cant see a problem at all, quite the opposite. We are doing better than nearly all clubs of our size, as we have a better owner.

Any numpty can say "we need to spend more! Why arent we spending more?!
 
Philbfctrois said:
All guesswork that

The whole lot of it
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Which part exactly?

The part where I point out that we have spent more fees on players than at almost any time in our history? Go on TransferMarkt and look that up for yourself.

If what I've said is guesswork than I have no clue what it is you do on here every day by insinuating that the club are refusing to spend money or that "Critchley left because he wasn't going to be backed".
 
voyeur said:
Of course hes got money, he's put/putting loads in. Our income doesn't cover our outgoings. Anyway near.

The teams above us mostly have massive funding from EPL funds and/or Chinese, Middle Eastern and Russian investors. Some clubs have been bought by people who took out mortgages against the club and have put them into massive debt. How many British owners put in more than Sadler?

Sadler is funding the club in the manner he has chosen. Its the best we've ever had, and way better than I imagined us having. Weve gone from League One strugglers to Championship comfort in very little time. I cant see a problem at all, quite the opposite. We are doing better than nearly all clubs of our size, as we have a better owner.
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He bought the club for a bargain 7.5 million According to a recent report its now worth over 12 million so the money he's put in is largely irrelevant given how much his investment has grown

I'm not saying there is a massive problem and i certainly dont care about other clubs but to suggest he's putting 'loads' in is not only wrong but also very vague
 
AmericanTangerine said:
Which part exactly?

The part where I point out that we have spent more fees on players than at almost any time in our history? Go on TransferMarkt and look that up for yourself.

If what I've said is guesswork than I have no clue what it is you do on here every day by insinuating that the club are refusing to spend money or that "Critchley left because he wasn't going to be backed".
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I have no idea why Critchley left but surely even with your tangerine specs on you could see he wasn't happy towards the end of last season

Maybe it was the fcuking around with the CB deal maybe it wasn't nobody will really know

As for comparing what SS has spent compared to the Oystons now that is ridiculous
 
Philbfctrois said:
He bought the club for a bargain 7.5 million According to a recent report its now worth over 12 million so the money he's put in is largely irrelevant given how much his investment has grown

I'm not saying there is a massive problem and i certainly dont care about other clubs but to suggest he's putting 'loads' in is not only wrong but also very vague
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No, its true. The value of the club going up is irrelevant at this stage surely. Clutching at straws. Is he supposed to take out a loan against the equity?
 
Off Duty Trip said:
Callum Robinson having a medical

That’s definitely a stellar signing 😍
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Stellar how? I know you're looking at it with nostalgia, but since he left you he's done absolutely nothing.

He's also a downgrade on Archer, and Woodman is a downgrade on Iversen. Throw in the fact you exclusively play 3-5-2 yet don't have any proper wingbacks (bar sicknote Brady), and you're an all-round weaker side than last year.

Surely you can't be happy with that?
 
voyeur said:
No, its true. The value of the club going up is irrelevant at this stage surely. Clutching at straws. Is he supposed to take out a loan against the equity?
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SS got the club for a knockdown price he was made preferred bidder by the car there were 4 other people interested in buying the club

He certainly didn't save the club as has been stated on this site

He's doing ok, promotion was a bonus but to be honest he did spend in lg 1, bringing in Dougall, Stewart and Simms were key to that success

Since we have been in the Championship He's spent very little imo
 
voyeur said:
No, its true. The value of the club going up is irrelevant at this stage surely. Clutching at straws. Is he supposed to take out a loan against the equity?
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Dont think it is irrelevant. He's more than protected his investment. This will be further enhanced when detailed planning get's approved on the TG. At that stage he's likel;y to be in a profit if he sold- that's without a brick being laid at GRW. And that profit would hold for some years.

We are constantly reminded that SS is a successful businessman, but yet is some sort of donor to BFC. The 2 are more closely related than people think.
 
ThorntonPool said:
Stellar how? I know you're looking at it with nostalgia, but since he left you he's done absolutely nothing.

He's also a downgrade on Archer, and Woodman is a downgrade on Iversen. Throw in the fact you exclusively play 3-5-2 yet don't have any proper wingbacks (bar sicknote Brady), and you're an all-round weaker side than last year.

Surely you can't be happy with that?
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Delighted with Robbo ex player or not

He’s got a wealth of experience in the championship , 27 years old

He doesn’t fit into Steve Bruce’s plans but he’s a good signing no question , probably breaking our transfer record (despite having no money apparently)

Personally think he’s instead of Archer but some think we could still get both , squad numbers released today and both Robbos and Archers old numbers have been left vacant
 
Philbfctrois said:
SS got the club for a knockdown price he was made preferred bidder by the car there were 4 other people interested in buying the club

He certainly didn't save the club as has been stated on this site

He's doing ok, promotion was a bonus but to be honest he did spend in lg 1, bringing in Dougall, Stewart and Simms were key to that success

Since we have been in the Championship He's spent very little imo
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The budget has clearly increased. But the competition in the Championship is clubs with relatively vast budgets. Bridging that gap is a major conundrum.

He didnt save the club. Belokon mainly did that, with support from the fans. He has provided a safe pair of hands though, with a sense of ambition and community. He was selected as he was seen as the best option and i think he clearly was.

You have this weird recurring habit of criticising the people who do the most for the club. Largely, it seems from a distance, to big yourself up, or something. Sadler and Critchley are talented people, way beyond the talents of you and i in the fields they operate in.
 
fcblackpool said:
Dont think it is irrelevant. He's more than protected his investment. This will be further enhanced when detailed planning get's approved on the TG. At that stage he's likel;y to be in a profit if he sold- that's without a brick being laid at GRW. And that profit would hold for some years.

We are constantly reminded that SS is a successful businessman, but yet is some sort of donor to BFC. The 2 are more closely related than people think.
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Yes but i have no problem with him protecting himself. It doesnt mean he can or should spend an unspecified/ vague amount of money that Phil has in his head.
 
voyeur said:
The budget has clearly increased. But the competition in the Championship is clubs with relatively vast budgets. Bridging that gap is a major conundrum.

He didnt save the club. Belokon mainly did that, with support from the fans. He has provided a safe pair of hands though, with a sense of ambition and community. He was selected as he was seen as the best option and i think he clearly was.

You have this weird recurring habit of criticising the people who do the most for the club. Largely, it seems from a distance, to big yourself up, or something. Sadler and Critchley are talented people, way beyond the talents of you and i in the fields they operate in.
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I don't understand the last paragraph at all or why you even needed to post that like some sort of insult 😕

Weird behaviour if I'm honest
 
voyeur said:
You insult people routinely. Said im even more stupid than you thought, a few days ago. So dont play the victim card. Again.
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Ahhh right so that was just retaliation for something i said days ago

Christ man you sound about 14 years of age
 
Philbfctrois said:
He bought the club for a bargain 7.5 million According to a recent report its now worth over 12 million so the money he's put in is largely irrelevant given how much his investment has grown

I'm not saying there is a massive problem and i certainly dont care about other clubs but to suggest he's putting 'loads' in is not only wrong but also very vague
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And the money spent on the club to get promoted, upgrade pretty much every aspect of the clubs infrastructure from the computer software used by the back office staff to the very steel holding the roof up has grown on trees has it ?

Even *if* Sadler sold the club for £12.5 million right now he’d have almost certainly lost money. Also what lunatic in their right mind would buy a club the size of Blackpool FC (for £12.5 million) when just to stay still there’s a minimum investment of £7-10 million needed to avoid the East stand being closed and the stadium capacity dropping to circa 12,000 in 3/4 years time and the expense that comes with funding a Chanpionship club on a year by year basis until it can self sustain.

In order to maximise the potential of Bloomfield Road as a commercial premises at least £20 million is needed. That should build in the infrastructure needed to satisfy ticket demands and to build revenue streams that operate more than 23 days per year.

In order for BFC as a football club to have any long term chance of succeeding at Chanpionship level or higher a permanent fit for purpose training ground and academy is necessary. That’s a further £10-£15 million quid.

Until the fruit of the above is realised (5+ years) the club will likely lose £2 million+ a year whilst standing still. So that’s a further £10 million.

So on top of his initial purchase cost of £7.5 million (the £5 million + invested so far) and the likely £45 - £50 million needed to see out the decade… that’s gonna be £60 million or more pumped in.

I don’t know what you want Phil but you need to get realistic.
 
Philbfctrois said:
Its a decent signing to be honest
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Beg to differ, he's been shockingly bad for almost 3 seasons. Pretty much everyone at Shef Utd and WBA have questioned his attitude. It's a big gamble if you ask me as he'll be taking up a large part of their reduced wage budget.
 
Philbfctrois said:
Ahhh right so that was just retaliation for something i said days ago

Christ man you sound about 14 years of age
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Jesus. No it wasn't retaliation. Just pointong out your double standards. Dish it out but turn into a baby at the slightest thing. Like numpty.

You think like a 7 year old. A spoilt one.
 
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