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Why on earth should footballer players/clubs be criticised because they/their players did not involve themselves in some silly gesture that some organisations have decided to support ?

If you/footballers want to "take a knee" because some career criminal may have been killed unlawfully on the other side of the planet then carry on but please don't go telling those with the ability to make their own minds up that they should be joining in this silly charade and/or telling them that they are racist if they don't join in.

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Wizaard said:
The groan was because we were geared up for a kick off roar that went flat as the game didn't actually start. I didn't think it was a groan at the gesture per se.
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The groan was clearly at players taking the knee. Tbf there was similar level of applause afterwards.
Probably the best thing is for this to gently die out over the next few months before the crowds come back. There's enough political baggage with this for it not to be included in the matchday experience.
 
SEASIDE2020 said:
Why on earth should footballer players/clubs be criticised because they/their players did not involve themselves in some silly gesture that some organisations have decided to support ?

If you/footballers want to "take a knee" because some career criminal may have been killed unlawfully on the other side of the planet then carry on but please don't go telling those with the ability to make their own minds up that they should be joining in this silly charade and/or telling them that they are racist if they don't join in.

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Ok, who had 'paedophile Asians' in the sweepstake? Collect your winnings at the front desk...
 
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Lytham_fy8 said:
Ok, who had 'paedophile Asians' in the sweepstake? Collect your winnings at the front desk...
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No need to be annoyed by my suggestion, a suggestion that would help raise awareness and hopefully ultimately solve a terrible problem in your own country.
 
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Kip said:
The groan was clearly at players taking the knee. Tbf there was similar level of applause afterwards.
Probably the best thing is for this to gently die out over the next few months before the crowds come back. There's enough political baggage with this for it not to be included in the matchday experience.
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Disagree. I groaned myself because I was ready for the game to start.
 
Don't worry.....I think he's going to blame the education system for turning out retards who haven't got an IQ higher than their waist size.
 
phill said:
Do we think their will be a backlash once fans are back towards this discusting practice .I do because away from the joke press and TV everyone you speak to is strongly against it and knows the BLM is a devisive racist organisation .All but woke lefft loons and activists seem to be against it in real life .I think and hope it gets booed .
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You lost me at ‘discusting’👍
 
EagleDay said:
"Black Lives Matter"? Of course they do........................but screw "Black Power", because that is what that raised fist refers to.
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I’m afraid that our resident wannabe Nazi is wrong on this occasion. It was the symbol of the Civil Rights Movement in the 60’s

It always pays to read the small print, Hermann
 
SEASIDE2020 said:
No need to be annoyed by my suggestion, a suggestion that would help raise awareness and hopefully ultimately solve a terrible problem in your own country.
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What a nasty approach to people you have. You put words in their mouths and declare what, according to you, they must be thinking. All because it suits your prejudices to do so.
 
I’ve noticed the OP has disappeared. Presumably he’s not available as he’s attending a KKK meeting?
 
EagleDay said:
Just because there are people who do not want to copy the Yanks, and recognise what BLM really stands for, does not make them racist.
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That may be so, and I’m sure any one with the user name ‘eagle day’ doesn’t have a racist bone in their body, however I think I raise a valid point in that all racists will be opposed to BLM, so if a few players ‘taking the knee’ for half a minute rids BFC of a few racists what’s not to like?
 
Recidivist3 said:
I’m afraid that our resident wannabe Nazi is wrong on this occasion. It was the symbol of the Civil Rights Movement in the 60’s
It always pays to read the small print, Hermann
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The use of the black clenched fist in the 60s was connected to the Black Panther nationalist group, which adopted the clenched fist as its logo, representing Black power. You use one of the most racist symbols as an avatar and you don't even know what it represents. Unbelievable.
 
Giro said:
Is it? Why?
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It's a bit much isn't it, KKK are complete lunatics on another level.

There are genuine reasons aspects of BLM movement is disliked despite the core message being fair. The UK version have delved into further political issues like Israel so its not really right for them to have anything to do with sport imo.

Then we have some hypocrisy, for eg during the riots in the US loads of Black people lives were turned upside down by ensuing looters and protesters etc and even people killed like an old Black policeman, very little care seemed to be given in comparison because he was killed by people with the wrong colour skin seemingly, a fellow back man. Seems a warped message when the lives only matter when killed by someone who is white.

Should have just stuck with a kick out racism line (which i believe everyone agrees with) rather than involving and empowering a group with some other political aims like defunding the police etc.
 
Tangojoe said:
The use of the black clenched fist in the 60s was connected to the Black Panther nationalist group, which adopted the clenched fist as its logo, representing Black power. You use one of the most racist symbols as an avatar and you don't even know what it represents. Unbelievable.
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Another one who hasn’t read the small print. Educating idiots is almost always a fruitless task but try enlarging the fist and reading the words contained within it. Do a little research and the jobs a good ‘un.

You’re right about black power but that has feck all to do with this particular avatar.
 
JJpool said:
It's a bit much isn't it, KKK are complete lunatics on another level.

There are genuine reasons aspects of BLM movement is disliked despite the core message being fair. The UK version have delved into further political issues like Israel so its not really right for them to have anything to do with sport imo.

Then we have some hypocrisy, for eg during the riots in the US loads of Black people lives were turned upside down by ensuing looters and protesters etc and even people killed like an old Black policeman, very little care seemed to be given in comparison because he was killed by people with the wrong colour skin seemingly, a fellow back man. Seems a warped message when the lives only matter when killed by someone who is white.

Should have just stuck with a kick out racism line (which i believe everyone agrees with) rather than involving and empowering a group with some other political aims like defunding the police etc.
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The OP stated that “taking the knee” was disgusting and followed up with, BLM is a racist organisation. Not quite sure what other conclusion I could have come to?
If the name of the group was BLM, as well. Would it have made have made the slightest difference to some people’s opinion? No, it’s just a game of semantics they play to try and justify their views.
 
L’étranger said:
That may be so, and I’m sure any one with the user name ‘eagle day’ doesn’t have a racist bone in their body, however I think I raise a valid point in that all racists will be opposed to BLM, so if a few players ‘taking the knee’ for half a minute rids BFC of a few racists what’s not to like?
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L'etranger...................that name is familiar from Facebook.
 
Tangojoe said:
The use of the black clenched fist in the 60s was connected to the Black Panther nationalist group, which adopted the clenched fist as its logo, representing Black power. You use one of the most racist symbols as an avatar and you don't even know what it represents. Unbelievable.
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Thanks Tango, saves me the time replying.
 
L’étranger said:
That may be so, and I’m sure any one with the user name ‘eagle day’ doesn’t have a racist bone in their body, however I think I raise a valid point in that all racists will be opposed to BLM, so if a few players ‘taking the knee’ for half a minute rids BFC of a few racists what’s not to like?
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Why should I not use the English translation for our forces winning that Battle? And why do you accuse people of being racist just because they disagree with a certain action? We have our own campaign against racism, what is so special about copying the loony Yanks?
 
Tangojoe said:
The use of the black clenched fist in the 60s was connected to the Black Panther nationalist group, which adopted the clenched fist as its logo, representing Black power. You use one of the most racist symbols as an avatar and you don't even know what it represents. Unbelievable.
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I thought he was a northern soul fan.
 
bleach51 said:
It took less than 10 seconds.Oh by the way have good look at the current make up of our team...I bet some of them know all about racial abuse from dimwits like you.
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There in lies part of the problem, I don’t see men of different colour, I just see the team I love and hope any one of them goes out and has a great game regardless of the colour of their skin. On the other hand some of you just want to keep pushing the divisive angle that doesn’t need to be there.
 
Scaramanga said:
There in lies part of the problem, I don’t see men of different colour, I just see the team I love and hope any one of them goes out and has a great game regardless of the colour of their skin. On the other hand some of you just want to keep pushing the divisive angle that doesn’t need to be there.
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And what if the people playing for the team you love actively want to take the knee? What will be your opinion then?
 
Scaramanga said:
There in lies part of the problem, I don’t see men of different colour, I just see the team I love and hope any one of them goes out and has a great game regardless of the colour of their skin. On the other hand some of you just want to keep pushing the divisive angle that doesn’t need to be there.
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Yes, Scara, but did you turn your back on the team that you love yesterday as they pushed that ‘divisive angle’ by taking the knee
 
Why on earth was part of my post removed ?

This is a discussion forum designed for members to discuss and debate issues.

The removal of my post is an example of blatant bias by a moderator and hampers honest debate.

My post was not abhorrent and perfectly demonstrated why some people might consider it ridiculous for people refusing to support the "take the knee" initiative to face accusations of racism.

I am sure the moderator who decided to remove my post would not have removed posts supporting the "take the knee" initiative and so they shouldn't but moderation should not be based on personal opinion and/or the personality of the poster.

I stand by everything I said and am happy for my post to be put back up for everybody to see and for posters to advise me on why the post was/should have been removed.
 
1966_and_all_that said:
And what if the people playing for the team you love actively want to take the knee? What will be your opinion then?
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Did you not read my post ? That’s their prerogative but I don’t have to agree with it. Hence I will turn my back and not boo. Simples.
 
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