The beauty of the Championship.

The scottish championship is equally mad with 3 points separating the top 6 but there's only 10 teams...

The second tier is clearly where it's at and I can't help thinking it would be more fun if either the Premier Leagues had a year like this every now and again...
 
As I have written before . Supporters of Manchester City , Liverpool ,etc ,only get about 6 competitive games a season and pay through the nose for their tickets . I watch the pool without a clue on nearly every game . That's entertainment.
not really true that is it? The PL has on average more goals per game than the other three divisions and I suggest you look at Liverpools results to consider if their draws at home to Palace and Brighton and away draw at newly promoted Fulham weren't competitive. Hardly three teams you'd give a chance to eh? And then look at the rest of their results this season. I'd suggest there's been plenty of entertainment in their games.Only uncompetitive game they've had is Bournemouth. As for entertainment isn't the key factor about your team playing well and scoring goals. Not sure how you could ever say Man City aren't entertaining. If I was a City fan, I think I'd be pretty pleased with what I was watching. As for ticket prices, well there's been enough debate on here about our own prices of £30 a ticket.

So on the whole, yep totally disagree with every single aspect of your post. And I've backed it up with evidence too.
 
It's an interesting league (the Championship).

It's also very low on quality. The standard is far closer to L1 than the Premier League.
that's true Mac. We've seen some pretty turgid stuff both this season and last season under Critchley. A million miles away from entertainment. That said, I'll take three points in a dour game rather than lose in an entertaining one.
 
that's true Mac. We've seen some pretty turgid stuff both this season and last season under Critchley. A million miles away from entertainment. That said, I'll take three points in a dour game rather than lose in an entertaining one.
I agree. For all the fanfare of a 3-3 draw and sparkling football at times v Sheff United I'd have taken a 90th minute 0-1 winner deflecting off Ekpiteta's arse.
 
It's an interesting league (the Championship).

It's also very low on quality. The standard is far closer to L1 than the Premier League.
There's definitely a jump in quality from League One to the Championship and it's why you see promoted sides struggle to stay up (normally only one does). The gap between the Championship and the Premier League just seems to keep growing, you see these clubs that have millions upon millions at their disposal go up to the Prem and get decimated every year - with that being said I think you're right in that its closer to League One than it is the Prem, otherwise teams who have walked this league in recent seasons should be more competitive when they go up (Norwich for example).

I think the gap between each division grows exponentially from League Two upwards, it is scary how big the gap between the 2nd and 1st division is getting though. I dread to think what'd happen if we pull off miracle 2.0 and reach the promised land again, in 10/11 superpowers like City didn't exist in the sense they do now - we'd be on the end of a couple drubbings I reckon!
 
not really true that is it? The PL has on average more goals per game than the other three divisions and I suggest you look at Liverpools results to consider if their draws at home to Palace and Brighton and away draw at newly promoted Fulham weren't competitive. Hardly three teams you'd give a chance to eh? And then look at the rest of their results this season. I'd suggest there's been plenty of entertainment in their games.Only uncompetitive game they've had is Bournemouth. As for entertainment isn't the key factor about your team playing well and scoring goals. Not sure how you could ever say Man City aren't entertaining. If I was a City fan, I think I'd be pretty pleased with what I was watching. As for ticket prices, well there's been enough debate on here about our own prices of £30 a ticket.

So on the whole, yep totally disagree with every single aspect of your post. And I've backed it up with evidence too.
No , you have come out with statistics not evidence . A team may only lose by 1 or 2 goals to Manchester City ,yet may not have had a shot on target all game. The fact is that City fans go into every game expecting to win ,even against Liverpool and Chelsea . If they don't win they are extremely disappointed . You go to a Blackpool game and you know every game can go either way . How often do city fans get games like we have just had . Even the Liverpool game was nothing like our Sheffield game and I don't remember last time a team was 2 down at Cities ground and come back to take the lead . You would probably have to go back to Main Road . So if you think their games go and pay for a 5 -0 against Watford.Or some of the other one sided score lines.
 
No , you have come out with statistics not evidence . A team may only lose by 1 or 2 goals to Manchester City ,yet may not have had a shot on target all game. The fact is that City fans go into every game expecting to win ,even against Liverpool and Chelsea . If they don't win they are extremely disappointed . You go to a Blackpool game and you know every game can go either way . How often do city fans get games like we have just had . Even the Liverpool game was nothing like our Sheffield game and I don't remember last time a team was 2 down at Cities ground and come back to take the lead . You would probably have to go back to Main Road . So if you think their games go and pay for a 5 -0 against Watford.Or some of the other one sided score lines.
Statistics are evidence. A game with [more] goals in it is far more likely to be entertaining than a game with [less] no goals in it. You've quoted one game in Sheff U and that's all you've got to base your point on! What about our game at Rotherham or does that not count in your eyes?!? Do you not think that Burnley and Norwich fans think they should be beating little old Blackpool. Add Watford into that. I'd say those reams and their fans if they don't win are "extremely disappointed".

There is a case of extreme inverted snobbery from some on their views of the PL. It's a great product! And I'd like Blackpool to be in there competing with those teams. As would most fans of the lower league teams. Add this into the mix too. Which games outside of the Blackpool get discussed and talked about on here? Yep, it's the PL. And further to that, which games on here are recalled more often than others? Yep, it's our games in the PL.

Oh go on then, I'll put you right again. Man U came back from two down to beat City at the the Etihad on 7th April 2018. So long after they'd left Maine Rd. That took a few seconds to find out so there may be other examples.
 
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not really true that is it? The PL has on average more goals per game than the other three divisions and I suggest you look at Liverpools results to consider if their draws at home to Palace and Brighton and away draw at newly promoted Fulham weren't competitive. Hardly three teams you'd give a chance to eh? And then look at the rest of their results this season. I'd suggest there's been plenty of entertainment in their games.Only uncompetitive game they've had is Bournemouth. As for entertainment isn't the key factor about your team playing well and scoring goals. Not sure how you could ever say Man City aren't entertaining. If I was a City fan, I think I'd be pretty pleased with what I was watching. As for ticket prices, well there's been enough debate on here about our own prices of £30 a ticket.

So on the whole, yep totally disagree with every single aspect of your post. And I've backed it up with evidence too.
Someone supports Liverpool.

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Blackburn are top with 7 defeats in 16 games. Madness
Not only that but it means top of the league have actually more defeats than bottom of the league. I suspect that's never happened before. There are only two teams who've lost more than Rovers too.

The Championship - unpredictable, tense and exciting. There are big opportunities this season for the clubs with smaller budgets.
 
I'd tend to say I'm a Blackpool fan with a big soft spot for Spurs. But I'm a football fan and appreciate all good football played by teams and there is a helluva lot of good entertaining football being played in the EPL.
Fuckinell all your turf on here and you actually support spurs? 😅
 
Statistics are evidence. A game with [more] goals in it is far more likely to be entertaining than a game with [less] no goals in it. You've quoted one game in Sheff U and that's all you've got to base your point on! What about our game at Rotherham or does that not count in your eyes?!? Do you not think that Burnley and Norwich fans think they should be beating little old Blackpool. Add Watford into that. I'd say those reams and their fans if they don't win are "extremely disappointed".

There is a case of extreme inverted snobbery from some on their views of the PL. It's a great product! And I'd like Blackpool to be in there competing with those teams. As would most fans of the lower league teams. Add this into the mix too. Which games outside of the Blackpool get discussed and talked about on here? Yep, it's the PL. And further to that, which games on here are recalled more often than others? Yep, it's our games in the PL.

Oh go on then, I'll put you right again. Man U came back from two down to beat City at the the Etihad on 7th April 2018. So long after they'd left Maine Rd. That took a few seconds to find out so there may be other examples.
A game with more goals in it is not more entertaining if all the goals are going in the same end . Also a 0-0 draw can be exciting if both teams are having a go. The Rotherham game was not crap or boring for the Rotherham fans and before kick off pool fans did not know how bad Blackpool were going to be . Yet City just don't play bad because they have players worth more then most clubs.
In respect to Burnley ,they are no bigger than Blackpool .The only reason their fan base is bigger is because of sustained Prem appearances. Oh ,and that was another 3-3 draw . So your argument is pretty poor. Considering I am trying to point out games are more exciting in the championship.
I will agree with you that I would like Blackpool to be competing in the Prem , but if we got to the Prem again would we be competing or would we be like Nottingham Forest and be battered every game.
By the way thanks for letting me know that Man Utd came back from 2 down . I did say I expect we would have gone as far back as Main Road ,but I wasn't sure. Finally I will just point out it was Man Utd that came back from two down ,not Wolves ,or Fulham , or Crystal Palace .
 
not really true that is it? The PL has on average more goals per game than the other three divisions and I suggest you look at Liverpools results to consider if their draws at home to Palace and Brighton and away draw at newly promoted Fulham weren't competitive. Hardly three teams you'd give a chance to eh? And then look at the rest of their results this season. I'd suggest there's been plenty of entertainment in their games.Only uncompetitive game they've had is Bournemouth. As for entertainment isn't the key factor about your team playing well and scoring goals. Not sure how you could ever say Man City aren't entertaining. If I was a City fan, I think I'd be pretty pleased with what I was watching. As for ticket prices, well there's been enough debate on here about our own prices of £30 a ticket.

So on the whole, yep totally disagree with every single aspect of your post. And I've backed it up with evidence too.
You take the evidence of a few games and try to sell it as a generality. Over the long term of the EPL WOT is correct. Yes, there may be entertainment but the trend towards the rule by the very few is inevitable.
 
A game with more goals in it is not more entertaining if all the goals are going in the same end . Also a 0-0 draw can be exciting if both teams are having a go. The Rotherham game was not crap or boring for the Rotherham fans and before kick off pool fans did not know how bad Blackpool were going to be . Yet City just don't play bad because they have players worth more then most clubs.
In respect to Burnley ,they are no bigger than Blackpool .The only reason their fan base is bigger is because of sustained Prem appearances. Oh ,and that was another 3-3 draw . So your argument is pretty poor. Considering I am trying to point out games are more exciting in the championship.
I will agree with you that I would like Blackpool to be competing in the Prem , but if we got to the Prem again would we be competing or would we be like Nottingham Forest and be battered every game.
By the way thanks for letting me know that Man Utd came back from 2 down . I did say I expect we would have gone as far back as Main Road ,but I wasn't sure. Finally I will just point out it was Man Utd that came back from two down ,not Wolves ,or Fulham , or Crystal Palace .
mmmm... not mentioned anything about Burnleys support being bigger. My point was solely to do with the fact that they were in the PL last season and with that financial advantage behind them they would have hoped for an immediate return to the EPL. That would have been their hope as a club and as a fanbase. And that is why and I was quoting your words when you referenced City they would have been "extremely disappointed" not to win the game. So as I said when you think of City and maybe even Liverpool too, well then there is the likes of Norwich and Burnley who have that mindset in the Championship. After all we are not long up in the Championship so our task is that much harder. And Bournemouth and Fulham aren't getting battered every game are they?
 
You take the evidence of a few games and try to sell it as a generality. Over the long term of the EPL WOT is correct. Yes, there may be entertainment but the trend towards the rule by the very few is inevitable.
What are you on about? That's just plain old inverted snobbery nonsense. I wasn't the one who made the point of evidence of a few games. It was WOT who was doing that. I simply quoted games against the lesser teams. Do you want me to quote the games Liverpool have already played against City and Arsenal too. We're only eleven games into this season so I suggest you go and look at Liverpools results to decide if they've been competitive games or not? I suggest you'll only find one that's not been. So it's not me who is talking generally at all. It's WOT and now you who is talking generally when he suggested Liverpool only get six competitive games a season.

Entertainment is usually created in football by goals being scored. The EPL has the highest ratio per game than the other three divisions. Oh yeah, it's the teams at the top end of the divisions that usually score more goals too. Every way you look at it, the EPL comes out tops for goals and entertinment and that's why fans of teams in the Championship want to be there.
 
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What are you on about? That's just plain old inverted snobbery nonsense. I wasn't the one who made the point of evidence of a few games. It was WOT who was doing that. I simply quoted games against the lesser teams. Do you want me to quote the games Liverpool have already played against City and Arsenal too. We're only eleven games into this season so I suggest you go and look at Liverpools results to decide if they've been competitive games or not? I suggest you'll only find one. So it's not me who is talking generally at all. It's WOT and now you who is talking generally!

Entertainment is usually created in football by goals being scored. The EPL has the highest ratio per game than the other three divisions. Oh yeah, it's the teams at the top end of the divisions that usually score more goals too. Every way you look at it, the EPL comes out tops for goals and entertinment and that's why fans of teams in the Championship want to be there.
I don't think you've understood my post.
 
I don't think you've understood my post.
I've very much understood it. I'm not the one taking it as a generality, it was WOT as I've explained. As for your other point about the rule by a few, yep, I've covered that too. The rule, so to speak, is by the usual few in the EPL. Of course it is, I haven't suggested otherwise. But even so, there are many other teams in there which give them competitive games. But although, the teams change in the Championship, it still tends to be ruled by those teams that have come down. And that was my point about Norwich and Burnley this season. They expect to beat us. They expect to rule over us. Think you'll perhaps go back a long way to find that where none of the teams that came down, none of them haven't been promoted back up again.
 
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mmmm... not mentioned anything about Burnleys support being bigger. My point was solely to do with the fact that they were in the PL last season and with that financial advantage behind them they would have hoped for an immediate return to the EPL. That would have been their hope as a club and as a fanbase. And that is why and I was quoting your words when you referenced City they would have been "extremely disappointed" not to win the game. So as I said when you think of City and maybe even Liverpool too, well then there is the likes of Norwich and Burnley who have that mindset in the Championship. After all we are not long up in the Championship so our task is that much harder. And Bournemouth and Fulham aren't getting battered every game are they?
Ok ,you win , I rather pay lots of money to see the same team win nearly all their games.
 
Two games on from the o/p and the delights of the Championship continue to intrigue.
Swansea in 4th place without a positive goal difference.
Hull with by far the worst goal difference in the entire league are somehow 16th

For Blackpool one win and we're top half and yet we are just a defeat away from the bottom three.
This will be an unrelenting campaign where you just can't afford a couple of defeats on the bounce.
 
Brum beating QPR last night shows how open it is! Had we have not got those players sent off against Sheff U and we’d have been full strength for Hull we’d have been 4 points better off and I’d seriously be looking at the play offs!
 
Every time there's any mention of the EPL on here i genuine believe that Richard Masters is 20togo's brother in law🤣🤣🤣

I've never known anyone so vociferous in championing a product so much.
 
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