Absolutely nailed it Scara. The bone idle teaching unions are angling for 6 months off on full whack. They just donāt want to offer any assistance at all. Mind you the 7 week school holidays are coming up soon!I presume most of the uk has lost all common sense. This isnāt going away anytime soon so unless you are elderly or are carrying an underlying health problem (accepted you need to stay isolated) then surely you can make some common sense adult decisions for yourselves. All this waiting for Boris to tell you what to do then spending the next day jumping on the moaning bandwagon is driving me nuts. I have not missed a day off work since Xmas and have spent many a day at high risk places for work (Hospital) and have had to use common sense and follow the advise from the medical professionals. I wonder how many of the people complaining are happy to keep taking the furlough money whilst slagging them off at the same time. We have to at least try to go back to normal as soon as we practically can.
Sips his champers and pulls out a Cuban.Absolutely nailed it Scara. The bone idle teaching unions are angling for 6 months off on full whack. They just donāt want to offer any assistance at all. Mind you the 7 week school holidays are coming up soon!
Yes... That's right Sweden will 'continue' to fare better.... As things progress Sweden will go on to fare much better than most (Germany being a prime example) IMO.
I suspect Britain, Italy & Spain will also fare better than Germany as things move on, simply due to having likely developed much higher levels of immunity. Essentially Germany are no better off than they were at the outset in so many respects as a huge proportion of their population are at risk of infection, due to such low levels of immunity.
I doubt that āHerd Immunityā theory will prove true or benefit the UK at all. Randomised testing trials show that, even with 40,000+ deaths in the UK, less than 4% of the population have been exposed to the CV. That leaves 96% of the population unprotected and there is no Herd Immunity until you get to greater than 60% of people with some degree of immunity.
Where has the 4% come from?
Reports I am seeing suggest that the calculated mortality rate based on credible antibody testing is somewhere between 0.1 and 0.6% and expert opinion is leaning towards a figure closer to 0.2-0.3%. Based on 40,000 UK deaths, that anywhere from 10-60%, more likely 20-30% of the population who have already been infected.
Leading epidemiologists suggesting that only a very small percentage of those infected likely to present with any symptoms and then a much smaller percentage likely to have any need for hospital treatment.
Hugely respected world leading Swedish Epidemiologist Johan Geisecke, a man responsible for formulating the WHO emergency response to epidemics has already suggested that Stockholm County is only a matter of weeks away from achieving herd immunity. This isn't some back-street conspiracy theorist talking, he's among a very small number of people who are suitably respected and qualified to speak with authority on the subject.
The issue there is that there is no credible antibody testing. No one is saying that there is one as yet.Where has the 4% come from?
Reports I am seeing suggest that the calculated mortality rate based on credible antibody testing is somewhere between 0.1 and 0.6% and expert opinion is leaning towards a figure closer to 0.2-0.3%. Based on 40,000 UK deaths, that anywhere from 10-60%, more likely 20-30% of the population who have already been infected.
Leading epidemiologists suggesting that only a very small percentage of those infected likely to present with any symptoms and then a much smaller percentage likely to have any need for hospital treatment.
Hugely respected world leading Swedish Epidemiologist Johan Geisecke, a man responsible for formulating the WHO emergency response to epidemics has already suggested that Stockholm County is only a matter of weeks away from achieving herd immunity. This isn't some back-street conspiracy theorist talking, he's among a very small number of people who are suitably respected and qualified to speak with authority on the subject.
It would be great if this was true but the evidence does not support this.Yes... That's right Sweden will 'continue' to fare better.... As things progress Sweden will go on to fare much better than most (Germany being a prime example) IMO.
I suspect Britain, Italy & Spain will also fare better than Germany as things move on, simply due to having likely developed much higher levels of immunity. Essentially Germany are no better off than they were at the outset in so many respects as a huge proportion of their population are at risk of infection, due to such low levels of immunity.
He's not a lone voice at all....In fact, it is Neil Ferguson, who is increasingly becoming the 'Lone Voice' in all of this...And his 'voice' is not even based on most recent evidence. Incidentally, Mid March and Mid May are quite significantly different points in the progression of a virus that's natural course would be 45-90 days in entirety.Your āJohan Geiseckeā is well qualified but he seems to be somewhat of a lone voice.
The case profile in Holland seems to mirror that of ours, peaking around 10/11 April. There is also time for antibodies to develop as well as the quality of the antibody testing itself...I think it makes sense to use the most up to date information available, don't you think?Holland was weeks ahead of the UK. And our āpeakā was supposed to 11th April, wasnāt it? I am not a fan of Neil Ferguson. Nor is our establishment it seems, the way they had him stitched up. But, yes, your Swede is swimming against the flow. And the maths seem to be an order of magnitude out.