The vendetta against the groundsman

Phil_bfc deux said:
Of course it does
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It doesn't if the pitch is only draining a fraction of the water it is supposed to, which is the only absolute fact we know.

If there's more to it than that then I'm sure the club will deal with it. If there isn't, then I feel for the kid tbh, as he's being publicly crucified for things that he has no control over.
 
Phil_bfc deux said:
Actually i completely and utterly disagree with that 🙃

Professional footballers don't miss chances on purpose

I agree Kurt can come across as a bit of a tool sometimes but the grief he's getting is well over the top

As for games being postponed I'm not overly bothered I just think people are being hypocritical
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He does bring it on himself a fair bit tho. But if you put forward a strong opinion and state it as fact it helps if you can back up what you re saying or be man enough to apologise for getting something wrong every now and then.
 
Some of our fans only seem
happy when their bloody moaning! I mean, since the Oystons buggered off, Simon came on board and steadied the ship, spent some money and generally sorted the sorry mess out - there’s been sod all to moan about! But is pisses it down, floods the pitch, game called off.... the knives are out and the blame game starts!
For once we have a club and owners to be proud of and I for one am very surprised and pleased how quickly SS has turned things around in all departments.
 
The club and the groundsman himself have mentioned the drainage issue and it sounds like this will be addressed in the close season.

I’ve no idea if the lad is fully trained or not, but one thing is for sure, he is probably a damn sight more trained then anyone on here. That’s not a dig at anyone here, and we all have our opinions on football on here despite being far less trained on this then any of the management staff at the club. We can voice our opinions on anything to do with the club, as that’s what we as football fans are entitled to do.

What has been clear through this tho, is the abuse he has clearly received on Twitter causing him to delete his Twitter account. Whatever personal insults that have been made are bang out of order, and anyone who has thrown these his way deserve whatever comes their way. Leave the lad to do his job, and I full faith in those running the club to sort this in house, that’s one thing that I’m 100% sure will happen, if it’s even needed.
 
Insider said:
TAM posted yesterday that the sprinklers had been on in the afternoon. I thought it was a joke but in poor taste so I'm going to be critical of him. Is that OK?
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Insider that wasn't my post although I commented
I subsequently established that the photographer used an old stock on his arrival at the ground
I edited my post and replied to a few others to confirm my understanding on that point
 
TwelveAngryMen said:
Insider that wasn't my post although I commented
I subsequently established that the photographer used an old stock on his arrival at the ground
I edited my post and replied to a few others to confirm my understanding on that point
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Good man. 👍
My apologies for doubting you.
 
I will put this reply I did to Dave on another thread.........

Dave62 said:
Let's wait for the club to make a statement eh? I think calling for a guy to be potted without knowing all the facts is poor, but as posted already these comments are most likely borne from frustration.

As a pool fan, I admit to being a little embarrassed when Morecambe can still play after (apparently) enduring similar weather. It's also very frustrating of course.

I see that, amongst the several threads tonight , the SLO has agreed to ask the club about the pitch. Let's see what the club says. I suspect SS is just as embarrassed and frustrated as we are.
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You simply can't compare our pitch in drainage terms with Morecambe as they have a relatively new pitch compared to ours.
Their pitch will have been constructed with the latest drainage and substrate compounds when it was laid.

Unlike our substrate which will be very compacted now and although the drainage was updated when the pitch was moved it was a stains project and it would be done as cheap as can be done.

Then you also have the lottery of where the ground is situated and how the area around each ground drains which can be different within a couple of miles.
 
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The fact that we have endured a number of postponements is in keeping with the fact that there is an underlying problem with the drainage of the pitch. The new groundsman commented on this problem soon after taking up the job. I don't know what some of you wanabee experts on pitch maintenance think should be done but i can assure you that you cannot solve a problem like this in a few winter months(which have been excessively wet) . The work required needs good weather and time when the pitch is not played on so can only be done between seasons.
If unfortunately another heavy rain band arrives just before a home fixture, owing to the already saturated playing surface, it is likely that their could be further postponements. We just have to hope for a dry March and fix the problem in the summer.
 
Does anyone think that one reason for a large number of weather postponements is that we’ve tried to play two games a week during the time of the year when the weather is at its worst? You’d normally avoid midweek fixtures at this time of year
 
TheOldKop said:
It strikes me that the level of debate on here has resorted in the main to negative criticism. Seemingly those criticising the groundsman are clearly lacking in knowledge and details of the underlying source and extent of the problem.
There is definitely an infrastructure issue which Ben Mansford has pointed out requires further investigation.
Maybe some of our more “jump the gun” let’s blame the nearest person should take a breath, pause and engage their brains before spouting their inane unfounded drivel
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Not sure how you can post that if you don't know any facts either

'Inane unfounded drivel'

Really?

The bloke watered the pitch before it rained 😑
 
TKL_Seasider said:
Does anyone think that one reason for a large number of weather postponements is that we’ve tried to play two games a week during the time of the year when the weather is at its worst? You’d normally avoid midweek fixtures at this time of year
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Except we've not had back to back home games since last year.
 
Phil_bfc deux said:
Not sure how you can post that if you don't know any facts either

'Inane unfounded drivel'

Really?

The bloke watered the pitch before it rained 😑
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If it that old picture with sprinklers on that did the rounds then that's not true, unless someone has seen what's gone on before the rain.
 
Phil_bfc deux said:
It does appear that way

Maybe we should have a list of who you can be critical of

As it appears the groundsman is now off limits along with the head coach
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Just you wait till the gates are open again Phil.

If there is no selection of independently selected real ales they will be cursing into their beards and muttering about it being no better than when the Oyston's were here.
 
Chaddy Tangerine said:
In other words, hearsay evidence. Not admissable in a court of law, with good reason. I live in Oldham and work with Oldham fans and our groundsman was highly regarded when he worked for OAFC.
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Cool, good for you. I live near a Sainsburys too. As useful as anything you just posted. I can see grass outside the window also.
 
Wizaard said:
Surely that should be no one can give an alternative view unless it's negative? Defending a position isn't being positive for positive's sake. It's having a debate
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It's not a debate though is it? Currently there are a crop of fans who are acting the same as the pre Premier League Oyston defenders, around anything negative at Blackpool FC. And it's ** pathetic.

The pitch is in incredible condition and has been up until the turn of the year. It's not being cared for properly and not being prepped for games.

Inexperience groundsman who, as far as I am aware is not fully qualified as yet to League standards.

Who, I am also aware, wasn't even at the ground for the majority of the day it was called off.
 
mull said:
He does bring it on himself a fair bit tho. But if you put forward a strong opinion and state it as fact it helps if you can back up what you re saying or be man enough to apologise for getting something wrong every now and then.
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I'm not apologising for shit. I've been told by a reliable source he isn't qualified. And also, I give zero fucks about yours or Owain's opinion. He's blocked on here for good reason.
 
mull said:
He does bring it on himself a fair bit tho. But if you put forward a strong opinion and state it as fact it helps if you can back up what you re saying or be man enough to apologise for getting something wrong every now and then.
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I don't bring anything on myself. Not a single word I've said on this forum I wouldn't say in person. And that is not the same for everyone on here.

I've said all sorts over the years and never once been held accountable by anyone in person.
 
SeasideKurt said:
It's not a debate though is it? Currently there are a crop of fans who are acting the same as the pre Premier League Oyston defenders, around anything negative at Blackpool FC. And it's ** pathetic.

The pitch is in incredible condition and has been up until the turn of the year. It's not being cared for properly and not being prepped for games.

Inexperience groundsman who, as far as I am aware is not fully qualified as yet to League standards.

Who, I am also aware, wasn't even at the ground for the majority of the day it was called off.
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He was either not at the stadium or he was at the stadium and watered the pitch, which one was it?
 
EagleDay said:
He can't do anything major until post-season, so why should he be taken to task. People will be saying next he did a rain dance to bring on the cancellation.
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Of course he should be taken to task if what i read is true about not been there Tuesday night and not having the covers on ling enough when he new a freeze was coming it’s his job if i was paying someones wages to be groundsperson id be demanding a better job from him , the previous boys were fantastic
 
LimerickTangerine said:
Of course he should be taken to task if what i read is true about not been there Tuesday night and not having the covers on ling enough when he new a freeze was coming it’s his job if i was paying someones wages to be groundsperson id be demanding a better job from him , the previous boys were fantastic
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The Board of BFC will, I'm certain, know all the actual facts.
Call me a bumspider if you must be I'm quite happy to let the Board decide what course of action is necessary.
 
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