Their goal

I thought at the time it was strange that Grimmy didn't dive or react to the shot but thought it took a deflection and that's what wrong footed him. Have to admit, sitting in the South, I din't think there was anything wrong with the goal and was very relieved when it was flagged.
 
Shiggy said:
If it was the other way round there would have been uproar in the stands and on here.

Anyone who thinks that goal should have been disallowed is looking through tangerine tinted spectacles I’m afraid
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I think anyone who doesn’t think it was offside is simply clueless with regard to the rules of the game. The decision isn’t even up for debate and I’d say exactly the same regardless of it was the other way round.

There was a player in an offside position clearly impeding the keepers view. It’s basics
 
voyeur said:
Grimmy says...

"It was when we were pushing out and they were pushing out too, their players were still offside and it went through a crowd and I couldn't see so it's a good decision from the ref. I didn't see it until it was behind me."
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Really Grimmy, then how come you didn’t even appeal then?

This instance just goes to show how the offside rule is still difficult to actually get right when we’re talking about things like interference, first and second phase etc. Even now there are many mixed opinions whether the correct decision was made last night, but as mentioned it’s about time we had the rub of the green for a change.
 
Raging_Bull said:
Really Grimmy, then how come you didn’t even appeal then?

This instance just goes to show how the offside rule is still difficult to actually get right when we’re talking about things like interference, first and second phase etc. Even now there are many mixed opinions whether the correct decision was made last night, but as mentioned it’s about time we had the rub of the green for a change.
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Agreed, and cancels out the QPR one as you said earlier, that was a worse decision.
 
Junior_BentsPlatformShoes said:
Agreed, and cancels out the QPR one as you said earlier, that was a worse decision.
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It doesn't cancel out a wrong decision, which the QPR one clearly was.

Was the Blackpool player in an offside position? YES.
Did he interfere with the flight of the ball or the keeper's view before the ball went into the net? NO.

Incorrect decision to disallow a valid goal.

Last night's decision hinged on two aspects. First, was the player offside? YES.
Secondly, did that player interfere with the line of sight of the keeper? YES.

Correct decision to disallow the goal.
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
I think anyone who doesn’t think it was offside is simply clueless with regard to the rules of the game. The decision isn’t even up for debate and I’d say exactly the same regardless of it was the other way round.

There was a player in an offside position clearly impeding the keepers view. It’s basics
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Maybe you would say the same if it was the other way round, but the majority would be furious. Grimshaw was getting nowhere near it regardless of Sharp's position, making the decision really harsh.
 
fcblackpool said:
Not for the liner to give though. FWIW I thought at the time it hit a retreating offsider so right to rule out, but the keepers sight was impeded- right decision.
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seem to take his time to raise his flag. I assume he was having a chat with the ref in his earpiece about who it hit and the position of Sharp. So after consultation with the ref he raised his flag.
 
voyeur said:
Grimmy says...

"It was when we were pushing out and they were pushing out too, their players were still offside and it went through a crowd and I couldn't see so it's a good decision from the ref. I didn't see it until it was behind me."
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It was the linesman who gave it.
I thought he had a good game.
 
Shiggy said:
Maybe you would say the same if it was the other way round, but the majority would be furious. Grimshaw was getting nowhere near it regardless of Sharp's position, making the decision really harsh.
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I’m sure they might be furious, but that wouldn’t make them right, just biased. What Grimshaw would or wouldn’t have done is immaterial… His view of shot and deflection were impeded by a player in an offside position… There’s nothing remotely ‘harsh’ about it… It’s the rules of the game being correctly applied..
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
I’m sure they might be furious, but that wouldn’t make them right, just biased. What Grimshaw would or wouldn’t have done is immaterial… His view of shot and deflection were impeded by a player in an offside position… There’s nothing remotely ‘harsh’ about it… It’s the rules of the game being correctly applied..
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Exactly. Being able to get to it is not part of the decision making process.
 
20togo said:
seem to take his time to raise his flag. I assume he was having a chat with the ref in his earpiece about who it hit and the position of Sharp. So after consultation with the ref he raised his flag.
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It was an easy decision to give having just watched it 1:22 on TTV (ignore the locked button and click) there was possibly 4 offside and the onle question once the deflection happened was the sightline of the keeper being blocked by an offside player.

Don't see how anyone could be furious at it being chalked off.
 
Wizaard said:
Exactly. Being able to get to it is not part of the decision making process.
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I’am pretty dam sure had the roles been reversed and we had that goal disallowed most of this board in fact 99.9% of it would have been screaming yet again we’ve been done by shocking officials.

As I’ve said previously I think the officials did us a massive favour last night could have so easily gone the other way.
 
Wizaard said:
Exactly. Being able to get to it is not part of the decision making process.
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As it happens, I’d say that if he was properly sighted he could have comfortably adjusted to save it in any case.

Jaffa_The_Hut said:
I’am pretty dam sure had the roles been reversed and we had that goal disallowed most of this board in fact 99.9% of it would have been screaming yet again we’ve been done by shocking officials.

As I’ve said previously I think the officials did us a massive favour last night could have so easily gone the other way.
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Yep, but that wouldn’t make the decision wrong. I also think that you’re looking at it the wrong way when you say ‘they did us a favour’… They didn’t do us a disservice is probably a better way of looking at it.
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
As it happens, I’d say that if he was properly sighted he could have comfortably adjusted to save it in any case.


Yep, but that wouldn’t make the decision wrong. I also think that you’re looking at it the wrong way when you say ‘they did us a favour’… They didn’t do us a disservice is probably a better way of looking at it.
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All immaterial now as it was disallowed so that’s the end of it we can only assume the officials always get decisions like this right. 😎
 
remember away at swansea when player stood in front of our keeper and totally blocked him and goal stood wrongly I may add
 
Shiggy said:
If it was the other way round there would have been uproar in the stands and on here.

Anyone who thinks that goal should have been disallowed is looking through tangerine tinted spectacles I’m afraid
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Of course we are 😂 🤓
 
Is eyesight affected by which team you support?

I have carefully 5 times looked at the pictures on this thread supplied from Sky highlights and in particular the pictures from behind the goal of disallowed Blades strike. If a line was drawn from where the ball is struck to Grimshaw it is quite clear that Sharpe is not in that line he is closest it`s true but no way is he in a position to block Grimshaw`s view of the ball nor did he attempt to play the ball. If I can clearly see that can I suggest that those of you that can`t should simply remove your Tangerine tinted specs and then look again .All will suddenly become crystal clear.

Blades were denied a perfectly legitimate goal.
 
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1950`spoolfan said:
Is eyesight affected by which team you support?

I have carefully 5 times looked at the pictures on this thread supplied from Sky highlights and in particular the pictures from behind the goal of disallowed Blades strike. If a line was drawn from where the ball is struck to Grimshaw it is quite clear that Sharpe is not in that line he is closest it`s true but no way is he in a position to block Grimshaw`s view of the ball nor did he attempt to play the ball. If I can clearly see that can I suggest that those of you that can`t should simply remove your Tangerine tinted specs and then look again .All will suddenly become crystal clear.

Blades were denied a perfectly legitimate goal.
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Utter bollox. the view from behind the goal has the player on the edge of the area hit the ball directly towards Sharp who is in line with Grimshaw. Grimshaw can't see the ball being struck because of that until the ball deflects off the Sheff U player. If Sharp hadn't been there he would have seen that and reacted accordingly.

Remind me where you live? You've been listening to the locals too much.
 
I thought it was a goal for reasons discussed above. However, the three Sheffield players stood in an offside position didn't help their team. They gave the officials an opportunity to disallow it - which they took.
 
1950`spoolfan said:
Is eyesight affected by which team you support?

I have carefully 5 times looked at the pictures on this thread supplied from Sky highlights and in particular the pictures from behind the goal of disallowed Blades strike. If a line was drawn from where the ball is struck to Grimshaw it is quite clear that Sharpe is not in that line he is closest it`s true but no way is he in a position to block Grimshaw`s view of the ball. If I can clearly see that can I suggest that those of you that can`t should simply remove your Tangerine tinted specs and then look again .All will suddenly become crystal clear.

Blades were denied a perfectly legitimate
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Yet I’ve drawn a line between, ball & Grimshaw’s head and Sharp’s arm is impeding, notwithstanding that he is also blocking the keepers ability to assess exactly where the ball is coming from regardless.

If you take a still from behind the goal it’s clear that the keeper would have a far better view of the situation if Sharp were taken out of the equation.

He doesn’t have to be in the direct line of sight (even though part of him is) he simply has to be obstructing the keepers line of vision.

In this case the keeper would need to see at least a yard either side of the shooter in order not to be impeded,
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
Yet I’ve drawn a line between, ball & Grimshaw’s head and Sharp’s arm is impeding, notwithstanding that he is also blocking the keepers ability to assess exactly where the ball is coming from regardless.

If you take a still from behind the goal it’s clear that the keeper would have a far better view of the situation if Sharp were taken out of the equation.

He doesn’t have to be in the direct line of sight (even though part of him is) he simply has to be obstructing the keepers line of vision.

In this case the keeper would need to see at least a yard either side of the shooter in order not to be impeded,
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ive done the same and clearly in his line of vision good shout bfcx3
 
Remind me where you live? You've been listening to the locals too much.
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Ha ha. Actually I watched it on Sky last night with my son and we couldn`t tell from those pictures but my opinion was simply formed by looking at the highlights shown on this thread .

The only football fan I have spoken to today is an over excited Stockport fan who believes his team will be back in the elite 92 next season but hasn`t seen the incontrovertible evidence that confirms that goal should have stood.🤓
 
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I don’t get why people are arguing it was not offside, unless your a Blade in disguise. The decision was made. Not criticising the officials for the corners we never got. However frustrating. It was given. I was more cheesed off the ref stopped us restarting the game quickly.
 
I was relieved and pretty much in line with the lino when he flagged late. It might have been the right decision but I'm not sure how he could've made that call with much certainty. Will take it though.
 
rockontommy said:
I was relieved and pretty much in line with the lino when he flagged late. It might have been the right decision but I'm not sure how he could've made that call with much certainty. Will take it though.
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I agree the lino wouldn't have been able to see that Sharp was in Grimmy's line of sight but he will have told the ref that he, and others, were in offside positions.
The ref was in a good position to see Sharp was interfering and will have told the lino to put his flag up, hence the delay.
I've not seen any discussion about Sheffield's other offside goal.
That decision was a lot more debatable I thought.
 
Insider said:
I agree the lino wouldn't have been able to see that Sharp was in Grimmy's line of sight but he will have told the ref that he, and others, were in offside positions.
The ref was in a good position to see Sharp was interfering and will have told the lino to put his flag up, hence the delay.
I've not seen any discussion about Sheffield's other offside goal.
That decision was a lot more debatable I thought.
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The first goal was clearly offside... The goal scorer was in a more advanced position than Grimshaw and Ekpiteta was the last man, which is possibly why the decision might have thrown you.
 
Point of order = the title of the thread is 'Their Goal'

Can a goal be called a goal if it wasn't actually a goal?
 
voyeur said:
Grimmy says...

"It was when we were pushing out and they were pushing out too, their players were still offside and it went through a crowd and I couldn't see so it's a good decision from the ref. I didn't see it until it was behind me."
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confirms what i said earlier. Lino consulted ref and the ref told him to stick his flag up.
 
Insider said:
I agree the lino wouldn't have been able to see that Sharp was in Grimmy's line of sight but he will have told the ref that he, and others, were in offside positions.
The ref was in a good position to see Sharp was interfering and will have told the lino to put his flag up, hence the delay.
I've not seen any discussion about Sheffield's other offside goal.
That decision was a lot more debatable I thought.
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When ball was moved forward towards the goal, only Marvin was between their player and the goal...hence..offside Law 11
 
technically it was the correct decision. Sharp was offside and in Grimmys line of vision, but so were 2 of our players and another 1 of theirs, although not in an offside position.
Feel a bit sorry for them though because there was no chance Grimmy would have got to it even with a clear view.
But hey how, stuff em!!!😁
 
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