This anti Critch nonsense

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SouthernSeasider

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Can’t believe how many anti Critchley threads there are.

What ever happened to get behind the manager?

We are 8th in League One and our best is probably still yet to come - hopefully.

Yet some of you lot are still crying over his villa move and calling him a snake, will never be forgiven, not a motivator, terrible tactics etc.

Bonkers and makes our fanbase look stupid.

all whilst we sit 2 points off the play offs. We weren’t doing any better during his first league one season at this point in the season.

we have a HUGE game this weekend so let’s back him and the boys at Bolton.
 
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SouthernSeasider said:
Can’t believe how many anti Critchley threads there are.

What ever happened to get behind the manager?

We are 8th in League One and our best is probably still yet to come - hopefully.

Yet some of you lot are still crying over his villa move and calling him a snake, will never be forgiven, not a motivator, terrible tactics etc.

Bonkers and makes our fanbase look stupid.

all whilst we sit 2 points off the play offs. We weren’t doing any better during his first league one season at this point in the season.

we have a HUGE game yesterday so let’s back him and the boys at Bolton.
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How did we get on with the huge game, I was busy yesterday!!
 
The level of entitlement and delusion - in large part generated by one season in The Prem - is in danger of turning us into a laughing stock.

The mantra of "we'll happily be non-league if we're Oyston-free" has been replaced by many as "everyone at the club is shite because we're not pushing for promotion to The Prem".
 
TheLuker said:
The level of entitlement and delusion - in large part generated by one season in The Prem - is in danger of turning us into a laughing stock.

The mantra of "we'll happily be non-league if we're Oyston-free" has been replaced by many as "everyone at the club is shite because we're not pushing for promotion to The Prem".
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7.59am and you already win the absolute bollocks post of the day👍🏻
 
TheLuker said:
The level of entitlement and delusion - in large part generated by one season in The Prem - is in danger of turning us into a laughing stock.

The mantra of "we'll happily be non-league if we're Oyston-free" has been replaced by many as "everyone at the club is shite because we're not pushing for promotion to The Prem".
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why do you come out with total and utter shit. Show me one post from anyone over the last six months which says we should be pushing for the Prem?
 
BFCfan33 said:
Congratulations on your 17,673 post that's very impressive, we all have aspirations whether they are big or small, always remember all peoples views are correct.
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what the fuck has that got to do with anything. I've simply asked the poster to provide evidence to the claim that he says people on here say we should be pushing for the Prem? He's not offering his own, he's making a statement about other peoples views. Can he provide the evidence.
 
SouthernSeasider said:
Can’t believe how many anti Critchley threads there are.

What ever happened to get behind the manager?

We are 8th in League One and our best is probably still yet to come - hopefully.

Yet some of you lot are still crying over his villa move and calling him a snake, will never be forgiven, not a motivator, terrible tactics etc.
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Anti Critch nonsense???
In your opinion, you should have added Southern seasider.

Whereas the terrible tactics and team selections are a fact.
 
BFCfan33 said:
Congratulations on your 17,673 post that's very impressive, we all have aspirations whether they are big or small, always remember all peoples views are correct.
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mmmm......that seems a bit contradictory to this post of yours below
 
BFCfan33 said:
I don't often comment but some peoples knowledge of football/players and the way the game is played on this site is beyond belief. I can't make my mind up if people put things on to wind people up or they are serious.
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There is little doubt that he can coach and he has a plan for how to play but some are not on board with the style and ethos. Personally I don’t think we are in a bad place and many of the detractors should recall the absolute sh*tshow served up by the clueless Appleton and McCarthy last season.
 
It is his perceived tactics that people have an issue with.
Something is amiss though as he has often stated he wants to attack more but the team retreat into their collective shell
 
Wilburrabbit said:
There is little doubt that he can coach and he has a plan for how to play but some are not on board with the style and ethos. Personally I don’t think we are in a bad place and many of the detractors should recall the absolute sh*tshow served up by the clueless Appleton and McCarthy last season.
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Do you not think his tactics are determined how we are doing in the game, as of course they should be? More often than not this season our starting tactics are slow patient laboured possession football and that continues until whoever scores the first goal. It's my view that we are a much better team playing at a quicker tempo and playing on the front foot taking the game to the opposition, That's when we look our best and in L1 we have the players to do that..
 
tangysider said:
It is his perceived tactics that people have an issue with.
Something is amiss though as he has often stated he wants to attack more but the team retreat into their collective shell
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Fans just make up bollocks in their heads in any case. We’re scoring 50% more goals per game under Critchley than we did with Dobbie, in fact he’s on a par with Holloway for goals per game.

Yet fans talk about us being overly cautious and Critchley being cowardly. I don’t think I e ever read so much uninformed crap being written about a manager on here tbh.

Holding Dobbie up as a shining example of attacking football…. Talk about deluded… Mick McCarthy turned out a higher number of goals per game than Dobbin.

We’ve witnessed some of the most exciting, attacking and skilful football this season, than we’ve seen since the last time Critchley was here… Le’s not for get how Josh Bowler’s stuttering career was reignited under Critchley and he was given the opportunity to shine.

We’re setting ourselves up with an aggressive attacking 3-5-2 with forward focused wing play, we’ve got creativity in the middle of the park, we’re having a right go at every side we come up against and this is only the beginning.

The only ‘negative’ thing at the minute, is the mindsets of a bunch of supporters who are determined to ruin our best chance of genuine progress through their own bloody mindedness.
 
20togo said:
Do you not think his tactics are determined how we are doing in the game, as of course they should be? More often than not this season our starting tactics are slow patient laboured possession football and that continues until whoever scores the first goal. It's my view that we are a much better team playing at a quicker tempo and playing on the front foot taking the game to the opposition, That's when we look our best and in L1 we have the players to do that..
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I don’t disagree but as I said he is a decent coach and those wanting him out need to remember last season.

Of course he is frustrating and hesitant to go after teams sometimes but overall I don’t think there is a better option for us in our present position.
 
Wilburrabbit said:
I don’t disagree but as I said he is a decent coach and those wanting him out need to remember last season.

Of course he is frustrating and hesitant to go after teams sometimes but overall I don’t think there is a better option for us in our present position.
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yep, I'm sure he's a very good coach and I agree with what you've said. But it's his reluctance to start games on the front foot that annoys me and a good few others too. Like i said, we've got enough quality to be much more positive than we are currently being. That first goal is vital.
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
Fans just make up bollocks in their heads in any case. We’re scoring 50% more goals per game under Critchley than we did with Dobbie, in fact he’s on a par with Holloway for goals per game.

Yet fans talk about us being overly cautious and Critchley being cowardly. I don’t think I e ever read so much uninformed crap being written about a manager on here tbh.

Holding Dobbie up as a shining example of attacking football…. Talk about deluded… Mick McCarthy turned out a higher number of goals per game than Dobbin.

We’ve witnessed some of the most exciting, attacking and skilful football this season, than we’ve seen since the last time Critchley was here… Le’s not for get how Josh Bowler’s stuttering career was reignited under Critchley and he was given the opportunity to shine.

We’re setting ourselves up with an aggressive attacking 3-5-2 with forward focused wing play, we’ve got creativity in the middle of the park, we’re having a right go at every side we come up against and this is only the beginning.

The only ‘negative’ thing at the minute, is the mindsets of a bunch of supporters who are determined to ruin our best chance of genuine progress through their own bloody mindedness.
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Classic nonsense from contrary mary. He seems to forget that Holloway and Dobbie were operating at a higher level than the majority of time Critchley has been with us. And yes, we've witnessed some exciting attacking and skilful football but on balance we've witnessed far more slow laboured football this season.
 
20togo said:
mmmm......that seems a bit contradictory to this post of yours below
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You quoted my posting history last week only returning the compliment so yeah a little wind up maybe, I think this site is great its a good read (not), please don't get annoyed and swear you are better than that, irrespective of what i am saying on this post i still stand by my previous post which is below


I don't often comment but some peoples knowledge of football/players and the way the game is played on this site is beyond belief. I can't make my mind up if people put things on to wind people up or they are serious.
 
It's not terrible, he's not terrible but it could be better.
As for our fan base, I always thought Spurs were fickle but they really stuck with their team last night even when they finally capitulated, saddens me to say it but half the crowd at Bloomfield Road would walk out after the 3rd opposition goal in similar circumstances.
 
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Looking at this graph from a couple seasons ago Critch is deffo a league 1 pep with the slow build up
 
I think it's reasonable to have felt critical of Critch this season and I've criticised him myself, it's been bloody frustrating at times. But it's the complete lack of balance that is ridiculous, and every set of fans goes through this frustration. The team is getting better, and is playing some excellent football, but only in fits and starts, thus far.

There are scars from last season that are healing, in the squad and for Critch too. Confidence levels still aren't where they need to be, and anxiety sets in very easily. As for cautiousness, we started the season super cautious but I don't see that now tbh. At Fleetwood we forgot to defend in the first half. We had a lot of attacking players on the pitch and left a lot of space between our midfield and defence at times.

The selection of TOB is obviously a factor. It's a bit bewildering and underlines the fact that Critch comes from development coaching and seeks to develop everyone and give all a chance. On this occasion, it was a bit reckless I think. He's just not at the level required and it'll do more harm than good. The principle of believing in your squad and giving everyone a chance is a good one though. In most instances!

If we can get Norburn and Dougall back together and have Dembele supplying Rhodes and Lavery we will make leaps I'm sure. Will just need better delivery from the wide players, in my book.
 
voyeur said:
I think it's reasonable to have felt critical of Critch this season and I've criticised him myself, it's been bloody frustrating at times. But it's the complete lack of balance that is ridiculous, and every set of fans goes through this frustration. The team is getting better, and is playing some excellent football, but only in fits and starts, thus far.

There are scars from last season that are healing, in the squad and for Critch too. Confidence levels still aren't where they need to be, and anxiety sets in very easily. As for cautiousness, we started the season super cautious but I don't see that now tbh. At Fleetwood we forgot to defend in the first half. We had a lot of attacking players on the pitch and left a lot of space between our midfield and defence at times.

The selection of TOB is obviously a factor. It's a bit bewildering and underlines the fact that Critch comes from development coaching and seeks to develop everyone and give all a chance. On this occasion, it was a bit reckless I think. He's just not at the level required and it'll do more harm than good. The principle of believing in your squad and giving everyone a chance is a good one though. In most instances!

If we can get Norburn and Dougall back together and have Dembele supplying Rhodes and Lavery we will make leaps I'm sure. Will just need better delivery from the wide players, in my book.
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If either Norburn or Virtue were fit OB wouldn't play - we have injuries in midfield and he plays because of that.
Connolley may have been a better choice IMO but Critchley picks the team.
He is a far better manager than any of the 3 that we had last season - we should back him and he improves players - this is a massive asset.
We are trying to put in place a sustainable structure throughout the club, this takes time.
 
ElBurroSinNombre said:
If either Norburn or Virtue were fit OB wouldn't play - we have injuries in midfield and he plays because of that.
Connolley may have been a better choice IMO but Critchley picks the team.
He is a far better manager than any of the 3 that we had last season - we should back him and he improves players - this is a massive asset.
We are trying to put in place a sustainable structure throughout the club, this takes time.
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Morgan would have been the better choice, he has more of an all round game for centre midfield than Connolly. OB wouldn't be a choice, from what I've so far Weir should also be higher up the pecking order than OB.
 
ElBurroSinNombre said:
If either Norburn or Virtue were fit OB wouldn't play - we have injuries in midfield and he plays because of that.
Connolley may have been a better choice IMO but Critchley picks the team.
He is a far better manager than any of the 3 that we had last season - we should back him and he improves players - this is a massive asset.
We are trying to put in place a sustainable structure throughout the club, this takes time.
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Of course we should back him. But I think we had better options than TOB. Ok try him once, but if he is immediately out of his depth, don't start him again surely. Get back to work. I agree with you, basically, though. The criticism gets way too much. TOB has a two year contract and Critch obviously believed there's a player in there. He's worked with hundreds if not thousands of young players over the last 20 years. He won't get it right all the time but he's much better qualified and proven to judge these things than any contributor to avftt.
 
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20togo said:
why do you come out with total and utter shit. Show me one post from anyone over the last six months which says we should be pushing for the Prem?
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In my mind we did well to get into The Championship and maintaing our position there would've been an excellent achievement. A lot of our fanbase felt that once in The Championship we should have been pushing for the play offs which to me was a big ask in such a short time frame.

There is a pervasive notion around this club that "we deserve" to be doing better than we are doing and I frankly think that is utter bollocks.
 
20togo said:
yep, but is it not reasonable to say he destroyed that structure just over 12 months ago? I think so. And I'm not one who had a single issue with him coming back.
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No its not reasonable to suggest that.

The fault lies with the club that didn't have a contingency plan and were unprepared in the event of him leaving.

SS has taken responsability for that. Critch didnt destroy anything. He was offered a better job with more money. Happens all the time.
 
AngelBFC said:
No its not reasonable to suggest that.

The fault lies with the club that didn't have a contingency plan and were unprepared in the event of him leaving.

SS has taken responsability for that. Critch didnt destroy anything. He was offered a better job with more money. Happens all the time.
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yeah, I can mainly buy into that.
 
The frustration is that we haven't set the league alight with the sort of attacking flair we all want to see. The approach is very cautious, at times almost crab-like, and overthought at times. It needs to be addressed. That doesn't mean we need to ditch Critch. We were a slow burn last time but set the division alight by the end of the season. Changing managers didn't work last time - though I for one was keen to see apples being turned into cyder when he was. Hang on in there. We can only get better and I believe we will under Critchley.
 
Terminallytangerine said:
The frustration is that we haven't set the league alight with the sort of attacking flair we all want to see. The approach is very cautious, at times almost crab-like, and overthought at times. It needs to be addressed. That doesn't mean we need to ditch Critch. We were a slow burn last time but set the division alight by the end of the season. Changing managers didn't work last time - though I for one was keen to see apples being turned into cyder when he was. Hang on in there. We can only get better and I believe we will under Critchley.
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I don't really agree. Our last few games have been very open with plenty of goals and we have used very attacking line ups. In some periods we have played some really good attacking football. And I wouldn't describe us as overly cautious even when we haven't. Just sort of anxious and dropping back. Flakey.

Are we all watching the same thing?
 
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voyeur said:
I don't really agree. Our last few games have been very open with plenty of goals and we have used very attacking line ups. In some periods we have played some really good attacking football. And I would describe us as overly cautious even when we haven't. Just sort of anxious and dropping back. Flakey.

Are we all watching the same thing?
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I think people a lot of people are projecting / overlaying what feels like some kind of ‘collective myth’ over the recent games, rather than observing what is actually happening.

I’m in agreement with you here Voy, I think we set up in an attacking way, we’re scoring as many goals as we ever have and Critchley is looking to be the aggressor at all times.

I’m not sure whether it’s flakeyness, anxiousness or even complacency at times, but there are certainly periods where we aren’t quite on it.
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
I think people a lot of people are projecting / overlaying what feels like some kind of ‘collective myth’ over the recent games, rather than observing what is actually happening.

I’m in agreement with you here Voy, I think we set up in an attacking way, we’re scoring as many goals as we ever have and Critchley is looking to be the aggressor at all times.

I’m not sure whether it’s flakeyness, anxiousness or even complacency at times, but there are certainly periods where we aren’t quite on it.
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Confidence/anxiety suspect. We haven't yet developed that confident winning habit which completely deserted us last season.
 
AngelBFC said:
No its not reasonable to suggest that.

The fault lies with the club that didn't have a contingency plan and were unprepared in the event of him leaving.

SS has taken responsability for that. Critch didnt destroy anything. He was offered a better job with more money. Happens all the time.
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I’m not sure any club would have a contingency plan to replace a manager who had just signed a long contract, especially when he left without any notice period.
 
voyeur said:
Confidence/anxiety suspect. We haven't yet developed that confident winning habit which completely deserted us last season.
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To that extent, I think we can take a lot of heart from the Peterborough game and the Fleetwood game in particular.

When you know you have it in the bank to be able to play with that level of intensity and almost score at will, I think it can start to breed confidence at both ends of the pitch.

I also thought we saw out the game against Fleetwood (barring a bit of a freak goal - certainly against the run of the play) far more professionally than I’ve seen for a while. We looked very comfortable in possession and 99 times out of 100 we win that game.
 
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