Tim Martin

Old_Laytonian said:
I went to a pub on Monday who had no real ale as the lorry drivers were on strike so they told me. Wye Valley brewery , plenty of lager so walked straight out and went to a Micro pub I know brewed on the premises 👍
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Only affects Euro P*ss and the fizzy crap, plenty of UK cask ale and craft ale available, c’mon you lager drinkers give it a go you never know it may change your lives forever.
 
I don't really care either way, out or in, fuck 'em all, what I don't like is being obviously bullshitted by idiots on the make.
 
Shandypants said:
You still can't come up with a positive advantage of brexit can you?
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Look, I’ve told you, there’s been dozens of examples which im not going to go over again, for the simple fact you lot just simply refuse to believe any of it or except it. So feel free to carry on beating yourself up and hating everything.
 
Scaramanga said:
Look, I’ve told you, there’s been dozens of examples which im not going to go over again, for the simple fact you lot just simply refuse to believe any of it or except it. So feel free to carry on beating yourself up and hating everything.
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Again nothing of substance. I'm not beating myself or hating. All I see is diminishing influence, poorer logistics, rising prices. What are the benefits???
 
Shandypants said:
Again nothing of substance. I'm not beating myself or hating. All I see is diminishing influence, poorer logistics, rising prices. What are the benefits???
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Well watching the likes of you and Mex froth on a regular basis makes it massively worthwhile for a start 😂😉
 
SEASIDE2020 said:
Most people don't give a feck about race and don't spend their lives trying to introduce non existent race angles at every opportunity.

I am not suggesting that you are guilty of this yourself 66 but race and racism get discussed all the time in AVFTT world.

I can't remember I had a serious discussion on race/racism in real life.
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Maybe because you predominantly mix with white people, not a criticism. Assuming you live on the Fylde coast that is the demographic. If you were of a different race it might be something you would be more likely to dicuss.
 
Newholland said:
I’m intrigued by your comments, please expand.
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Here you go. There’s an Executive Summary on page 8 onwards.

In brief it’s very critical of the average diet of most U.K. citizens.

To be fair to Brexiters it’s hoping that our leaving the EU might be an opportunity to change the national diet.

Hopefully it’ll fall on receptive ears in Number 10. Carrie seems like a grown up.
 
Newholland said:
The National food strategy?
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Please expand, prior to 83 I'd never heard of garlic, eaten peppers or anything other than cauliflower, spuds and meat. The single market has helped bring in fresh veg and products from Europe very quickly and efficiently.
 
Mexboroseasider said:

Here you go. There’s an Executive Summary on page 8 onwards.

In brief it’s very critical of the average diet of most U.K. citizens.

To be fair to Brexiters it’s hoping that our leaving the EU might be an opportunity to change the national diet.

Hopefully it’ll fall on receptive ears in Number 10. Carrie seems like a grown up.
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Thanks for that mex but I’m already familiar with those documents, hope others will read though.This represents the most radical overall of the way food is produced and subsided since we joined the EEC . If implemented in part or full it will almost certainly take us down a different route to the EU, good of you to acknowledge how Brexit may well have a positive affect.
Shandypants said:
Please expand, prior to 83 I'd never heard of garlic, eaten peppers or anything other than cauliflower, spuds and meat. The single market has helped bring in fresh veg and products from Europe very quickly and efficiently.
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Take a read on mex’s post 71👍
 
Newholland said:
Thanks for that mex but I’m already familiar with those documents, hope others will read though.This represents the most radical overall of the way food is produced and subsided since we joined the EEC . If implemented in part or full it will almost certainly take us down a different route to the EU, good of you to acknowledge how Brexit may well have a positive affect.

Take a read on mex’s post 71👍
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I agree the paper I posted should be more widely read. A debate about the national diet and feeding disadvantaged kids is very, very important and long overdue.

But, hand on heart, if it’s a choice between:

1. A healthier diet produced by U.K. Farmers at a price premium or
2. Importing cheap junk food crap from Australia and the US

What do you think most people in the U.K. would choose?
 
Mexboroseasider said:
I agree the paper I posted should be more widely read. A debate about the national diet and feeding disadvantaged kids is very, very important and long overdue.

But, hand on heart, if it’s a choice between:

1. A healthier diet produced by U.K. Farmers at a price premium or
2. Importing cheap junk food crap from Australia and the US

What do you think most people in the U.K. would choose?
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That’s the challenge Mex.Do the British public really want to eat a sustainable diet, protect our environment, have greater access to the countryside.. have public money deliver public good and in so doing, dramatically reduce the unnecessary pressure on our health services ? A premium worth paying? If ( and I do mean if) this government decide to implement this strategy, would it be fair to blame the government if the public follow option 2 in your post? This could be literally a chance to put their money where their mouth is...😁 Should XR be backing this?
 
Newholland said:
That’s the challenge Mex.Do the British public really want to eat a sustainable diet, protect our environment, have greater access to the countryside.. have public money deliver public good and in so doing, dramatically reduce the unnecessary pressure on our health services ? A premium worth paying? If ( and I do mean if) this government decide to implement this strategy, would it be fair to blame the government if the public follow option 2 in your post? This could be literally a chance to put their money where their mouth is...😁 Should XR be backing this?
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I hope I’m wrong but I think the bitter truth is that most of us just want to fill our faces with “tasty stuff at a very low price” without giving much thought as to how it was produced, the impact on animal welfare or the environment, or whether the suppliers in the food chain have a viable business.

Occasionally though we might lift our noses off our plates; but only long enough to laugh about the kids and their crazy ideas about climate change, sustainability and all that stuff. The Loons but you have to love ‘em for their naivety.
 
Do tou think Labour should now come out and state they will appeal to the EU to reinstate the UK back into the EU should they win the next election?

I’ll be voting Green regardless as I’ve little faith in either party but could be the difference for Labour
 
I heard a brexit article for the first time in months on the radio today here in Germany, it was regarding pubs without beer. It was in the comedy section ( German comedy yikes!) you can imagine what a Bavarian thinks of a beer shortage.

Anyway good news is I went to the first beer fest in almost 2 years today, life after the pandemic at last.
 
Scaramanga said:
What utter shite
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So the bloke says he has never discussed racism with anyone in real life so I say if you were of a different race you probably would.
You say utter shite, can't understand why.
My partner is mixed race and she has discussed racism in real life, what have I said that is so unreasonable?
 
Scaramanga said:
Interesting statement from a retired man who lived the good life and retired to the sunset with a gold plated pension.
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😂 Bit of a random comment that.

Now if you’d posted it on the thread about NI increases for the young, to pay for social care for the elderly, it might just have some relevance. But as a reply to what I posted it doesn’t make any sense at all. Unless you mean that the retired aren’t allowed to have an opinion?

Never mind though. I think it’s the weekend now (you lose track a bit when you’re retired) so you can have a couple of days break before getting your nose back to the grindstone. Enjoy.
 
gjr69 said:
So the bloke says he has never discussed racism with anyone in real life so I say if you were of a different race you probably would.
You say utter shite, can't understand why.
My partner is mixed race and she has discussed racism in real life, what have I said that is so unreasonable?
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I have black and mixed race people in my family also, I can honestly say we don’t discuss it. It’s just not necessary. But each to their own.
 
gjr69 said:
Maybe because you predominantly mix with white people, not a criticism. Assuming you live on the Fylde coast that is the demographic. If you were of a different race it might be something you would be more likely to dicuss.
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gjr69

Yes, as you suggest, I do live in this area and do predominately mix with white people.

I do have friends and colleagues of different race and don't have any problem with any of them - certainly not with their race.

I'm sure you are right in suggesting that I might be more likely to discuss race issues if I was of a different race myself but when I referred to some people on here banging on about race on here all the time, I was talking about white people from the Fylde coast or anywhere on the planet who appear to try and introduce non existent race/racism angles at every opportunity.

I certainly have no problem with you discussing issues which may effect your partner - and therefore yourself - but I think it's fair to say that most people would not dream of discriminating by race/colour and that's why I chose to question the difference between AVFTT and the real world.
 
Mexboroseasider said:

Here you go. There’s an Executive Summary on page 8 onwards.

In brief it’s very critical of the average diet of most U.K. citizens.

To be fair to Brexiters it’s hoping that our leaving the EU might be an opportunity to change the national diet.

Hopefully it’ll fall on receptive ears in Number 10. Carrie seems like a grown up.
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Cheers for that link, must have a proper read later. met Helen Browning years ago trying to get organic milk into Supermarkets. The panel seems very heavily biased towards UK farming, and he needs a better spellchecker !
 
SEASIDE2020 said:
gjr69

Yes, as you suggest, I do live in this area and do predominately mix with white people.

I do have friends and colleagues of different race and don't have any problem with any of them - certainly not with their race.

I'm sure you are right in suggesting that I might be more likely to discuss race issues if I was of a different race myself but when I referred to some people on here banging on about race on here all the time, I was talking about white people from the Fylde coast or anywhere on the planet who appear to try and introduce non existent race/racism angles at every opportunity.

I certainly have no problem with you discussing issues which may effect your partner - and therefore yourself - but I think it's fair to say that most people would not dream of discriminating by race/colour and that's why I chose to question the difference between AVFTT and the real world.
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Totally agree, most people have no issue whatsoever, it really is a tiny minority. Although Scaramanga is incredibly lucky that it has never once ever been an issue for anybody in his group of friends and family.
 
Scaramanga said:
I have black and mixed race people in my family also, I can honestly say we don’t discuss it. It’s just not necessary. But each to their own.
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Yeah, but I still think your reply of 'utter shite' was uncalled for, unnecessary, inappropriate and just a bit rude.
Talking about it is necessary if somebody has been on the wrong end of it and they want to tell somebody close to them, thankfully it doesn't happen very often at all so is rarely talked about in our house.
Why you come across as so angry about it I don't know, but each to their own.
 
gjr69 said:
Yeah, but I still think your reply of 'utter shite' was uncalled for, unnecessary, inappropriate and just a bit rude.
Talking about it is necessary if somebody has been on the wrong end of it and they want to tell somebody close to them, thankfully it doesn't happen very often at all so is rarely talked about in our house.
Why you come across as so angry about it I don't know, but each to their own.
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Quite simply too many people seem to love to bring it up when it’s just not necessary, some people seem to get off on it and it pisses me off. That ok with you ?
 
Scaramanga said:
Quite simply too many people seem to love to bring it up when it’s just not necessary, some people seem to get off on it and it pisses me off. That ok with you ?
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Course it is, but your original post to a reasonable post I made in reply to somebody else, actually was utter shite in more ways than one. However you are free to write what you like and we are all free to form an opinion of you based on those words. Enjoy your evening.
 
Trammo said:
German bierkellers such as Geilarsch in Munich and Pimmelkopf Palast in Fotzeburg are complaining they cannot get supplies of Theakston’s Old Peculiar and The Dog’s Bollocks. This is due to a shortage of lorry drivers in the Fatherland and is leading to mass frustration of real ale drinkers who have blitzed the Reichstag with many thousands of angst emails.
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Serious Q. Are you taking the wee or is this fact?
 
Apparently I’ve had a post removed, can’t see which one it is to be honest. Who’s upset now ffs 🤷🏻‍♂️
 
Shandypants said:
Please expand, prior to 83 I'd never heard of garlic, eaten peppers or anything other than cauliflower, spuds and meat. The single market has helped bring in fresh veg and products from Europe very quickly and efficiently.
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I don’t see how anything can be called fresh unless it’s just come out of the ground.
 
coppiceman said:
I wonder if he is still as keen on Brexit now that his pubs are running out of beer?
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Let's ask him: https://foxhole.news/2021/09/04/global-shortages-prove-brexit-is-a-poor-scapegoat/

One person not buying into the Brexit narrative is legendary publican, Tim Martin. “Strenuous efforts are being made to link supply issues to Brexit,” complained the Wetherspoons boss.

“In this case, the main link relates to industrial action, Brexit gave the power to the UK Government to allow more HGV drivers in, should it choose to do so.

“There are supply chain issues in many EU countries following the pandemic.”
 
Lost Seasider said:
Let's ask him: https://foxhole.news/2021/09/04/global-shortages-prove-brexit-is-a-poor-scapegoat/

One person not buying into the Brexit narrative is legendary publican, Tim Martin. “Strenuous efforts are being made to link supply issues to Brexit,” complained the Wetherspoons boss.

“In this case, the main link relates to industrial action, Brexit gave the power to the UK Government to allow more HGV drivers in, should it choose to do so.

“There are supply chain issues in many EU countries following the pandemic.”
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Like he was ever going to admit it after nailing his colours to the Brexit mast. Surprised he still imports tbh. Thought he was going for all British products?
 
Mexboroseasider said:
I agree the paper I posted should be more widely read. A debate about the national diet and feeding disadvantaged kids is very, very important and long overdue.

But, hand on heart, if it’s a choice between:

1. A healthier diet produced by U.K. Farmers at a price premium or
2. Importing cheap junk food crap from Australia and the US

What do you think most people in the U.K. would choose?
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for most it isnt a matter of choice, its a matter of what they can afford.
 
But does Tim tosser Martin now put flyers on his pub tables explaining why his supplies aren't getting through? Or is it just the word according to Tim toss pot?
 
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