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voyeur

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Portsmouth - look efficient, sneaking wins, not losing. Yet to play them.

Oxford - we were comfortable on their patch.

Bolton - edged us on their patch, not a better side than us IMO.

Posh - we got on top against them with ten men in the second half. We can finish above them over 46 games.

Stevenage - beat them comfortably

Barnsley - we won at their place
 
voyeur said:
Portsmouth - look efficient, sneaking wins, not losing. Yet to play them.

Oxford - we were comfortable on their patch.

Bolton - edged us on their patch, not a better side than us IMO.

Posh - we got on top against them with ten men in the second half. We can finish above them over 46 games.

Stevenage - beat them comfortably

Barnsley - we won at their place
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If you persist in being so optimistic, I request that the mods ban you from this board. We doom and gloomers need it for our miserable moaning opinions.
 
I thought you could really see Peterborough were a very good team first half at ours, despite getting rattled when we rallied with 10. Big strong and quick all over the pitch and moved the ball very well. I thought Bolton looked strong and well organised. I think Stevenage were poor and will probably fade and Oxford certainly no better than us.
 
voyeur said:
I think we are as good as any of them, and should be up there now. I think we'll get there but it shouldn't be such hard work really. Fine margins though, and we are not getting certain things quite right.
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Should being the operative word!!

Listening to Critchley's post match comments on the Bolton game both frustrated and angered me.

Yes, it was a close game but the bottom line is, if you don't have any shots on target you will not score goals, bar any fluke own goals.

If the team continue to play as they are then I can't see any further than mid table.
The hope and optimism at the beginning of the season has slowly faded.
 
Wizzerboy said:
Should being the operative word!!

Listening to Critchley's post match comments on the Bolton game both frustrated and angered me.

Yes, it was a close game but the bottom line is, if you don't have any shots on target you will not score goals, bar any fluke own goals.

If the team continue to play as they are then I can't see any further than mid table.
The hope and optimism at the beginning of the season has slowly faded.
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That's what I am saying. We should be doing better, winning more games, cos we are as good as the top 6 teams.

The hope is still there though. We can match the teams above us and there's loads of games left. Only the pessimistic choose to let go of optimism so easily.
 
Wizzerboy said:
Should being the operative word!!

Listening to Critchley's post match comments on the Bolton game both frustrated and angered me.

Yes, it was a close game but the bottom line is, if you don't have any shots on target you will not score goals, bar any fluke own goals.

If the team continue to play as they are then I can't see any further than mid table.
The hope and optimism at the beginning of the season has slowly faded.
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Can we drop this nothing on target bollocks?

I was behind the goal like so many others and there were two headers going in until deflected wide. What game was everyone else watching?
 
voyeur said:
Portsmouth - look efficient, sneaking wins, not losing. Yet to play them.

Oxford - we were comfortable on their patch.

Bolton - edged us on their patch, not a better side than us IMO.

Posh - we got on top against them with ten men in the second half. We can finish above them over 46 games.

Stevenage - beat them comfortably

Barnsley - we won at their place
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For balance none of these are in the top 6

Port Vale - we were not any better than they were

Leyton Orient- We couldnt break them down

Wycombe- we were comfortably beaten

Lincoln- we got absolutely hammered

Derby- beat us comfortably on our own patch

Exeter- looked very similar to us and it had nil nil all over it
 
Most of the team are good enough and we certainly should be nearer the top of the league!
What could be the problem then? 🤔

Let's put it another way.
Where would this exact same squad be in the table right now if say, Liam Manning was our coach?
I think you all know the answer....
 
TANGERINETOWERPOWER said:
For balance none of these are in the top 6

Port Vale - we were not any better than they were

Leyton Orient- We couldnt break them down

Wycombe- we were comfortably beaten

Lincoln- we got absolutely hammered

Derby- beat us comfortably on our own patch

Exeter- looked very similar to us and it had nil nil all over it
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All those games were early on. We are improving.
 
Our best players are on loan.
Dembele.
Rhodes - without him, we would be much closer to the bottom of the table than the top.
January transfer window will be important and in the meantime we need to stay in contention
 
North Pier said:
Most of the team are good enough and we certainly should be nearer the top of the league!
What could be the problem then? 🤔

Let's put it another way.
Where would this exact same squad be in the table right now if say, Liam Manning was our coach?
I think you all know the answer....
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Indeed we do...

"Following an awful start to the season that found his side in the relegation zone, Manning was sacked by MK Dons on 11 December 2022 having accumulated just fifteen points from twenty matches, six points from safety and only off the bottom on goal difference."
 
Wizaard said:
Can we drop this nothing on target bollocks?

I was behind the goal like so many others and there were two headers going in until deflected wide. What game was everyone else watching?
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Screenshot_20231113_182902_Scores.jpgI was watching this match.

If the attack pass a ball from the D to the penalty spot even though it would go in the goal if no one intervenes its not a shot on goal.
 
For the Oxford match our squad was ruined with illness, so dont think it was an honest reflection. We dont normally fade after 45 mins. Look forward to coming up your way in Feb.
 
neyo said:
For the Oxford match our squad was ruined with illness, so dont think it was an honest reflection. We dont normally fade after 45 mins. Look forward to coming up your way in Feb.
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Yeah sure but I still think we are a match for you and everybody else and I think we'll be up among the top 6 as the season wears on.
 
Taking Stevenage out of the equation as I can not see them keeping up the pace, all the teams above us are in double figures fot the Goals +. That is our problem as we simply do not convert enough of our chances and last Saturday starting with just one up front was never going to see us coming back after conceding. We need to win all of our home games between now and Christmas and pick up something at Cambridge and Port Vale. Pompey is a free hit.
If this happens then I reckon we will go up on a massive wave of momentum.
COYP.
 
voyeur said:
Yeah sure but I still think we are a match for you and everybody else and I think we'll be up among the top 6 as the season wears on.
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Perhaps. There's a lot of teams pushing for these top 6 spots though, I think you're about right to be honest in eighth. I don't see you finishing above Pompey, us, Bolton or P'boro. Stevenage I think will fall out and be replaced with Derby and Barnsley to make up the top 6. I think from there it's the best of the rest from the middle pack of competitve teams on their day, which includes:

Stevenage, Blackpool, Bristol Rovers, Charlton, Wycombe.

January is crucial to changing this though, in both keeping Rhodes (Huddersfield really struggling) and adding to what you have...
 
neyo said:
Perhaps. There's a lot of teams pushing for these top 6 spots though, I think you're about right to be honest in eighth. I don't see you finishing above Pompey, us, Bolton or P'boro. Stevenage I think will fall out and be replaced with Derby and Barnsley to make up the top 6. I think from there it's the best of the rest from the middle pack of competitve teams on their day, which includes:

Stevenage, Blackpool, Bristol Rovers, Charlton, Wycombe.

January is crucial to changing this though, in both keeping Rhodes (Huddersfield really struggling) and adding to what you have...
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We've beaten Barnsley away and you lot didn't scare me. We'll finish above both of you.

That's not bravado, just us settling into a settled side and being more consistent.
 
neyo said:
Perhaps. There's a lot of teams pushing for these top 6 spots though, I think you're about right to be honest in eighth. I don't see you finishing above Pompey, us, Bolton or P'boro. Stevenage I think will fall out and be replaced with Derby and Barnsley to make up the top 6. I think from there it's the best of the rest from the middle pack of competitve teams on their day, which includes:

Stevenage, Blackpool, Bristol Rovers, Charlton, Wycombe.

January is crucial to changing this though, in both keeping Rhodes (Huddersfield really struggling) and adding to what you have...
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I was playing golf with a Huddersfield fan yesterday.
He said it wouldn't matter either way if they recalled Rhodes as they're going down.
 
Wizaard said:
We've beaten Barnsley away and you lot didn't scare me. We'll finish above both of you.

That's not bravado, just us settling into a settled side and being more consistent.
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Agree, who hasn't beaten Barnsley though? 😉

Your latter point is key though, consistency... Beating Barnsley or scabbing a point against us (🎣) doesn't mean a thing if you're not beating Lincoln, Leyton Orient & Exeter.
 
neyo said:
Agree, who hasn't beaten Barnsley though? 😉

Your latter point is key though, consistency... Beating Barnsley or scabbing a point against us (🎣) doesn't mean a thing if you're not beating Lincoln, Leyton Orient & Exeter.
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Lincoln Orient Exeter were very early days. The season has a long way to go and we don't know for sure what will happen but we have strength in depth and haven't quite clicked yet but if we do we will go on a run. We looked comfortable at Bolton to me. And af your place, and you had your manager then. Who knows how your manager change will work out? I think we are basically as good as the top 6 and will be in there once we resolve 2 or 3 things. We struggled more up this point last time we were promoted than this time. No guarantees well do the same thing again but I believe we will get better.
 
neyo said:
Agree, who hasn't beaten Barnsley though? 😉

Your latter point is key though, consistency... Beating Barnsley or scabbing a point against us (🎣) doesn't mean a thing if you're not beating Lincoln, Leyton Orient & Exeter.
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I think Wiz is right in the sense that we haven’t even got out of first gear so far this season. Whether we ever will is questionable, but there are certainly some positive signs.

I think a few of the recent results (Peterborough, Oxford & Fleetwood) have flattered the opposition really. Even Derby was a much more evenly balanced game than the result would suggest.

We should start to press home our advantage in those kind of games much more as the season progresses, but we’ll see.

I wouldn’t be surprised if we finish where we are right now, but I suspect we’ll finish strongly and in the top six.
 
Hooked1964 said:
Taking Stevenage out of the equation as I can not see them keeping up the pace, all the teams above us are in double figures fot the Goals +. That is our problem as we simply do not convert enough of our chances and last Saturday starting with just one up front was never going to see us coming back after conceding. We need to win all of our home games between now and Christmas and pick up something at Cambridge and Port Vale. Pompey is a free hit.
If this happens then I reckon we will go up on a massive wave of momentum.
COYP.
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I agree re Stevenage (thought they were really poor) although Sky bet have us 15/8 for a top 6 finish and Stevenage at 11/8 😳
 
I'd say Peterborough, Bolton and Barnsley all looked better than us over 90 minutes. Out of the other play-off contenders we only looked significantly better than Stevenage, and Oxford for a half.

We are absolutely in contention for the play-offs though. Outside of Portsmouth we have some more favourable fixtures coming up, hopefully we strengthen in areas needed come January ready for our 2nd half of the season charge.
 
Wizaard said:
Can we drop this nothing on target bollocks?

I was behind the goal like so many others and there were two headers going in until deflected wide. What game was everyone else watching?
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4 "blocked shots" to be precise which I think includes headers.
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
I think Wiz is right in the sense that we haven’t even got out of first gear so far this season. Whether we ever will is questionable, but there are certainly some positive signs.

I think a few of the recent results (Peterborough, Oxford & Fleetwood) have flattered the opposition really. Even Derby was a much more evenly balanced game than the result would suggest.

We should start to press home our advantage in those kind of games much more as the season progresses, but we’ll see.

I wouldn’t be surprised if we finish where we are right now, but I suspect we’ll finish strongly and in the top six.
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In this 352 we need a lot more from the wing backs in terms of both quality and quantity of balls in to the strikers, surely? We also need Dembele or another behind the front two, supplying them. We didn't score at Bolton partly because there was a very restricted supply and only one striker, who lacks pace. I think.

We gave Dembele a new role to suss out. We changed formation, 3511? Did it work? Not really. Did we gamble at any point? Not really. We did a lot of stuff well, but we lost, and there is room for criticism.
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
I think Wiz is right in the sense that we haven’t even got out of first gear so far this season. Whether we ever will is questionable, but there are certainly some positive signs.

I think a few of the recent results (Peterborough, Oxford & Fleetwood) have flattered the opposition really. Even Derby was a much more evenly balanced game than the result would suggest.

We should start to press home our advantage in those kind of games much more as the season progresses, but we’ll see.

I wouldn’t be surprised if we finish where we are right now, but I suspect we’ll finish strongly and in the top six.
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Hang on...Im sure you said that Peterboro outclassed us and were much the better side...4-2 did not flatter them and they could have been 4-0 up at half time..they were 3-0 up pretty early in the second half and we had never got going
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
I think Wiz is right in the sense that we haven’t even got out of first gear so far this season. Whether we ever will is questionable, but there are certainly some positive signs.

I think a few of the recent results (Peterborough, Oxford & Fleetwood) have flattered the opposition really. Even Derby was a much more evenly balanced game than the result would suggest.

We should start to press home our advantage in those kind of games much more as the season progresses, but we’ll see.

I wouldn’t be surprised if we finish where we are right now, but I suspect we’ll finish strongly and in the top six.
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We are capable of a top 6 finish but I genuinely believe we will have to strengthen the squad in January both with loan and permanent signings...time to spend some dough or miss out
 
TANGERINETOWERPOWER said:
Hang on...Im sure you said that Peterboro outclassed us and were much the better side...4-2 did not flatter them and they could have been 4-0 up at half time..they were 3-0 up pretty early in the second half and we had never got going
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I don’t know what I said in the immediate aftermath, however I’ve been laid up for a couple of weeks and so I’d rewatched a few games. Peterborough certainly passed the ball around quite nicely, but I’m not convinced they deserved to win 4-2.

I think they edged the game, but I also think they had the rub of the green on the day.
 
Play 2 up front no problem, leave Rhodes alone and we’re mid table.
Be interesting to see Joseph get some game time now 🤞
 
TANGERINETOWERPOWER said:
Hang on...Im sure you said that Peterboro outclassed us and were much the better side...4-2 did not flatter them and they could have been 4-0 up at half time..they were 3-0 up pretty early in the second half and we had never got going
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I think that's a negative exaggeration. It was 1-0 when Casey got sent off. We finished the game with 12 shots at goal and 5 on target, exactly the same as Peterboro, and 46% possession, despite playing half the game with ten men. That's not the whole story, but I watched the game and we struggled to deal with their direct running but we probably gave as good as we got over 90 minutes, with ten men for 44 plus added time. We were missing Norburn and decided Oakley Boothe was the appropriate replacement. When he was replaced by Dembele 5 mins into the second half, we got on top, with ten men. They have a few good players but we were pushing for 3-3 and they hit us as we pushed forward with tired legs in injury time to make it 4-2. They were clearly relieved.

I think we will finish above them.
 
Wizzerboy said:
View attachment 17214I was watching this match.

If the attack pass a ball from the D to the penalty spot even though it would go in the goal if no one intervenes its not a shot on goal.
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But it's a nonesense really.

You could batter a side and hit the post and bar time afte time, also come very close with great moves but just mess up the finish and have zero shots on target.

It doesn't always give a proper reflection of the game.
 
voyeur said:
I think that's a negative exaggeration. It was 1-0 when Casey got sent off. We finished the game with 12 shots at goal and 5 on target, exactly the same as Peterboro, and 46% possession, despite playing half the game with ten men. That's not the whole story, but I watched the game and we struggled to deal with their direct running but we probably gave as good as we got over 90 minutes, with ten men for 44 plus added time. We were missing Norburn and decided Oakley Boothe was the appropriate replacement. When he was replaced by Dembele 5 mins into the second half, we got on top, with ten men. They have a few good players but we were pushing for 3-3 and they hit us as we pushed forward with tired legs in injury time to make it 4-2. They were clearly relieved.

I think we will finish above them.
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They also missed a penalty and they were good value for the win..I was there and saw their off the ball running and pace and I assume you watched on tv where you wouldn’t get the same effect. Very few at that game would think we deserved anything out of the game.
 
TANGERINETOWERPOWER said:
They also missed a penalty and they were good value for the win..I was there and saw their off the ball running and pace and I assume you watched on tv where you wouldn’t get the same effect. Very few at that game would think we deserved anything out of the game.
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I think you see things through a negative filter tbh. Got a bit of a downer going on. Which is understandable, possibly down to being too close to be objective. Get frustrated and imagined things worse than they actually are. A lot of our fans put a negative spin on practically everything. Peterboro were rattled, by ten men, and I think if we'd picked the right midfield from the outset it would likely have been different. We had ten men for half of it, for god's sake, and no Norburn. And probably should've had a point. I don't think they would have felt hard done to if we had.
 
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