Unexpected virus side-effect in NZ

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Hospitals across New Zealand have been flooded with babies suffering from respiratory viruses, including a potentially deadly one known as RSV. Experts say the crisis is due to ‘immunity debt’ caused by Covid-19 lockdowns. Doctors have warned that the outbreak is due to children not developing immunity to other viruses suppressed by Covid lockdowns, which has led to a 99.9% reduction in flu cases and a 98% reduction in RSV. However, over the past five weeks, New Zealand has reported 1,000 new RSV cases, according to the Institute of Environmental Science and Research.

The chief medical officer for Wellington explained how people experience near-universal exposure to RSV as children and said most are exposed in their first year of life, but if that exposure is removed for a period the children remain unexposed which leads to a much bigger outbreak when they are eventually exposed to the virus. The longer these periods of viral or bacterial low-exposure, the greater the likelihood of future epidemics. Australia has also experienced a surge, with hospitals in Victoria being overcrowded by unusually high rates of RSV.

Looks like something the UK needs to be aware of in the coming year.
 
Tangojoe said:
Hospitals across New Zealand have been flooded with babies suffering from respiratory viruses, including a potentially deadly one known as RSV. Experts say the crisis is due to ‘immunity debt’ caused by Covid-19 lockdowns. Doctors have warned that the outbreak is due to children not developing immunity to other viruses suppressed by Covid lockdowns, which has led to a 99.9% reduction in flu cases and a 98% reduction in RSV. However, over the past five weeks, New Zealand has reported 1,000 new RSV cases, according to the Institute of Environmental Science and Research.

The chief medical officer for Wellington explained how people experience near-universal exposure to RSV as children and said most are exposed in their first year of life, but if that exposure is removed for a period the children remain unexposed which leads to a much bigger outbreak when they are eventually exposed to the virus. The longer these periods of viral or bacterial low-exposure, the greater the likelihood of future epidemics. Australia has also experienced a surge, with hospitals in Victoria being overcrowded by unusually high rates of RSV.

Looks like something the UK needs to be aware of in the coming year.
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Why,? with Covid Infections rising, deaths upticking again and hospitals cancelling urgent surgeries to cope with the flood of poorly younger people and even the double vaccinated suffering severe symptoms caused by the Johnson Variant, we are about to enjoy “Freedom Day” aren’t we, aren’t we?
 
NZ policy of essentially hunkering down is fine over the short term, but can’t be sustained. The top epidemiologists were pretty much saying that way back in mid 2020.
 
Bottle said:
Why,? with Covid Infections rising, deaths upticking again and hospitals cancelling urgent surgeries to cope with the flood of poorly younger people and even the double vaccinated suffering severe symptoms caused by the Johnson Variant, we are about to enjoy “Freedom Day” aren’t we, aren’t we?
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Most people I talk to aren’t looking forward to freedom day, I haven’t spoken to anyone who is saying how they can’t wait to burn their masks. They’re all concerned about the rising cases and intend to keep wearing their masks.
 
Matesrates said:
Most people I talk to aren’t looking forward to freedom day, I haven’t spoken to anyone who is saying how they can’t wait to burn their masks. They’re all concerned about the rising cases and intend to keep wearing their masks.
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In a similar vein to the O/P, this highlights another big hangover from lockdowns.

Most people will be able to return to their normal lives with no troubles, but there will be millions of people who have been profoundly affected by the levels of fear in society and the endless scaremongering from the MSM and Government.

COVID anxiety syndrome is definitely a thing for many, I’m not belittling it & rather sadly I believe it to be true when I see things like the posts above.

The vaccines work and to be honest, if we can't fully unlock with the current level of immunity in the population, I doubt we ever will.

The saddest thing of all this is, there’s many people who aren’t looking forward to restrictions being lifted, life being normal again, people not wearing masks, capacity crowds, pubs, festivals, concerts, the list goes on. This is the issue with lockdowns, they’ve become detached from a normal world, reliant on being told what to do and almost lost sight of the 99% recovery rate, being vaccinated and the average age of death from Covid being 83. It’s going to take some time for this to stop, for some I don’t think it ever will, how sad is that?
 
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The scientists have been saying for a while that isolating people from the virus is also isolating them from immunity they would receive from everyday society. The OP is an example of how babies fail to cope with not being exposed to normal viruses. I'm sure there will be many more that we don't yet know about.

BTW Recidivist, you need to calm down son. Your posts are becoming increasingly odd.
 
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Well those stats show that if you are double vaccinated then you are bloody unlucky to end up in hospital.

Also, we do not know the underlying health, physical fitness and other contributing factors to those hospitalised? Were those double dosed and hospitalised also suffering illness X?
Where they physically frail or significantly obese?

I know it’s little comfort for the families involved but it does appear that double dosed vaccinated leaves you fairly certain of avoiding hospital, when you bare in mind there are 67 million of us and we are talking a few hundred people
 
I think the serious point about this thread is that there is no ideal path through the Pandemic, everything done has impacts. The best that can be done is balance the risks and make sound decisions based on accepted and rigorously challenged evidence.

Sadly, too many decision makers had and have their own agenda.
 
If anything, this demonstrates that changing ‘normal’ can have unexpected consequences.
So the sooner we return to ‘normal’, the better for everyone.
 
Tangojoe said:
Hospitals across New Zealand have been flooded with babies suffering from respiratory viruses, including a potentially deadly one known as RSV. Experts say the crisis is due to ‘immunity debt’ caused by Covid-19 lockdowns. Doctors have warned that the outbreak is due to children not developing immunity to other viruses suppressed by Covid lockdowns, which has led to a 99.9% reduction in flu cases and a 98% reduction in RSV. However, over the past five weeks, New Zealand has reported 1,000 new RSV cases, according to the Institute of Environmental Science and Research.

The chief medical officer for Wellington explained how people experience near-universal exposure to RSV as children and said most are exposed in their first year of life, but if that exposure is removed for a period the children remain unexposed which leads to a much bigger outbreak when they are eventually exposed to the virus. The longer these periods of viral or bacterial low-exposure, the greater the likelihood of future epidemics. Australia has also experienced a surge, with hospitals in Victoria being overcrowded by unusually high rates of RSV.

Looks like something the UK needs to be aware of in the coming year.
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Source?
 
tommytwojags said:
The scientists have been saying for a while that isolating people from the virus is also isolating them from immunity they would receive from everyday society. The OP is an example of how babies fail to cope with not being exposed to normal viruses. I'm sure there will be many more that we don't yet know about.

BTW Recidivist, you need to calm down son. Your posts are becoming increasingly odd.
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And increasingly aggressive and patronising.
 
It's a fact that children who are wrapped in cotton wool and not exposed to viruses become ill more often and experience worse symptoms.
 
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