Was the attendance that bad?

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FY5_Seasider

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1. Sheff U v B'ham- 29,043
2. Forest v B'mouth- 25,035
3. West Brom v Luton- 23,289
4. M'boro v Bristol City- 22,004
5. Coventey v Forest- 20,843
6. Stoke v Reading- 19,068
7. Bristol City v B'pool- 18,729
8. Cardiff v Barnsley- 17,431
9. Barnsley v Coventry- 16,961
10. Derby v Huddersfield- 16,249
11. QPR v Millwall- 16,127
12. Fulham v M'boro- 16,058
13. Swansea v Sheff U- 15,946
14. Huddersfield v Fulham- 15,126
15. Millwall v B'burn- 12,490
16. PNE v Hull- 12,452
17. Reading v PNE- 12,156
18. B'pool v Cardiff- 11,393
19. Hull v QPR- 10,728
20. P'boro v Derby- 10,477
21. B'burn v Swansea- 10,260
22. B'ham v Stoke- 10,189
23. Luton v P'boro- 10,019
24. B'mouth v West Brom- 9,254


I'm surprised at a few of those figures. Hull especially. I didn't think Barsnley would get a crowd that high either. Overall I think our gate was respectable but could have been better with better pricing. We all know Preston's gates are boosted by thousands of giveaways.
 
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Class_of_2010 said:
1. Sheff U v B'ham- 29,043
2. Forest v B'mouth- 25,035
3. West Brom v Luton- 23,289
4. M'boro v Bristol City- 22,004
5. Coventey v Forest- 20,843
6. Stoke v Reading- 19,068
7. Bristol City v B'pool- 18,729
8. Cardiff v Barnsley- 17,431
9. Barnsley v Coventry- 16,961
10. Derby v Huddersfield- 16,249
11. QPR v Millwall- 16,127
12. Fulham v M'boro- 16,058
13. Swansea v Sheff U- 15,946
14. Huddersfield v Fulham- 15,126
15. Millwall v B'burn- 12,490
16. PNE v Hull- 12,452
17. Reading v PNE- 12,156
18. B'pool v Cardiff- 11,393
19. Hull v QPR- 10,728
20. P'boro v Derby- 10,477
21. B'burn v Swansea- 10,260
22. B'ham v Stoke- 10,189
23. Luton v P'boro- 10,019
24. B'mouth v West Brom- 9,254


I'm surprised at a few of those figures. Hull especially. I didn't think Barsnley would get a crowd that high either. Overall I think our gate was respectable but could have been better with better pricing. We all know Preston's gates are boosted by thousands of giveaways.
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Not brilliant if you deduct the away following but it will get better.
 
Class_of_2010 said:
1. Sheff U v B'ham- 29,043
2. Forest v B'mouth- 25,035
3. West Brom v Luton- 23,289
4. M'boro v Bristol City- 22,004
5. Coventey v Forest- 20,843
6. Stoke v Reading- 19,068
7. Bristol City v B'pool- 18,729
8. Cardiff v Barnsley- 17,431
9. Barnsley v Coventry- 16,961
10. Derby v Huddersfield- 16,249
11. QPR v Millwall- 16,127
12. Fulham v M'boro- 16,058
13. Swansea v Sheff U- 15,946
14. Huddersfield v Fulham- 15,126
15. Millwall v B'burn- 12,490
16. PNE v Hull- 12,452
17. Reading v PNE- 12,156
18. B'pool v Cardiff- 11,393
19. Hull v QPR- 10,728
20. P'boro v Derby- 10,477
21. B'burn v Swansea- 10,260
22. B'ham v Stoke- 10,189
23. Luton v P'boro- 10,019
24. B'mouth v West Brom- 9,254


I'm surprised at a few of those figures. Hull especially. I didn't think Barsnley would get a crowd that high either. Overall I think our gate was respectable but could have been better with better pricing. We all know Preston's gates are boosted by thousands of giveaways.
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I think Luton's capacity is around 11k. Birmingham only opened two stands for some reason so capacity is significantly reduced. A (sort of) derby game with Stoke should attract far more than 10k. Hull's is disappointing too, not sure why it's that low?
 
We always seem to have this obsession with crowds on here.
Some people keep harping on about crowds at Cod’s/Fylde now we have people moaning about the crowd on Saturday at Bloomfield road.
You couldn’t make it up. 😂
Ps
No pun intended to the O/P by the way but aimed at others over years who have this thing about crowd numbers.
 
It's interesting in that it highlights that we're punching above our weight in the Championship, in terms of crowd potential, and therefore finances. This is a glaring reality that very few seem to accept. The gap is even bigger now than when we were in the old second division. I don't want to believe this, but it's undeniable.
 
Class_of_2010 said:
1. Sheff U v B'ham- 29,043
2. Forest v B'mouth- 25,035
3. West Brom v Luton- 23,289
4. M'boro v Bristol City- 22,004
5. Coventey v Forest- 20,843
6. Stoke v Reading- 19,068
7. Bristol City v B'pool- 18,729
8. Cardiff v Barnsley- 17,431
9. Barnsley v Coventry- 16,961
10. Derby v Huddersfield- 16,249
11. QPR v Millwall- 16,127
12. Fulham v M'boro- 16,058
13. Swansea v Sheff U- 15,946
14. Huddersfield v Fulham- 15,126
15. Millwall v B'burn- 12,490
16. PNE v Hull- 12,452
17. Reading v PNE- 12,156
18. B'pool v Cardiff- 11,393
19. Hull v QPR- 10,728
20. P'boro v Derby- 10,477
21. B'burn v Swansea- 10,260
22. B'ham v Stoke- 10,189
23. Luton v P'boro- 10,019
24. B'mouth v West Brom- 9,254


I'm surprised at a few of those figures. Hull especially. I didn't think Barsnley would get a crowd that high either. Overall I think our gate was respectable but could have been better with better pricing. We all know Preston's gates are boosted by thousands of giveaways.
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A good effort by Dull at the Knobbers with 1,700 that's quite a percentage of their home gate vs QPR.
 
Hulls low crowd very surprising. Barnsley made the play offs last season so there will be a lot of optimism amongst their fans.
 
Discojohndeary said:
It's interesting in that it highlights that we're punching above our weight in the Championship, in terms of crowd potential, and therefore finances. This is a glaring reality that very few seem to accept. The gap is even bigger now than when we were in the old second division. I don't want to believe this, but it's undeniable.
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There's no need to accept it because its' not a fixed thing. It can be changed and will need to be if we are to survive at this level.

I don't know why discussing attendances is suddenly an 'obsession'. Crowds have been discussed since message boards first appeared 25 years ago. If people don't want to engage then keep off the thread.
 
Lewis_Winthorpe said:
I think Luton's capacity is around 11k. Birmingham only opened two stands for some reason so capacity is significantly reduced. A (sort of) derby game with Stoke should attract far more than 10k. Hull's is disappointing too, not sure why it's that low?
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Just for info the council put restrictions on Birmingham capacity due to local Covid levels.
 
20togo said:
Hulls low crowd very surprising. Barnsley made the play offs last season so there will be a lot of optimism amongst their fans.
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A lot of Hull fans are boycotting, the Barnsley figure is 13,900 not 16,900 and was an all ticket game. Lots of posters on here were mocking the nobbers crowds this summer yet they got 1100 more for their first game. Yet the general consensus from most is 11,300 is a good effort.
 
FlytoKavala said:
Not brilliant if you deduct the away following but it will get better.
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There were away fans at all those matches and a good number of them will have been in bigger numbers than Cardiff.
The crowd was fine, about what I expect us to get, I would also be happy if we finished about 18th in the league table.
 
Lytham_fy8 said:
I think everyone just needs to get the fuck over this obsession to be honest.
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I disagree Lytham. It's the only input the fans have other than buying merchandise but that's minimal compared to gate receipts . The numbers at home games reflect where the club is and it sends out a very important message to floaters and other potential football fans in the town. I don't believe for second the crowd was that low. As others have said it just doesn't add up. The club should explain how they came to that figure because if the crowd was nearer 13,000 it sends out a very different message. The club know all football fans want their team to be well supported. They owe it to the fans.. maybe the SLO could ask the question??
 
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kuriousoranj said:
I disagree Lytham. It's the only input the fans have other than buying merchandise but that's minimal compared to gate receipts . The numbers at home games reflect where the club is and it sends out a very important message to floaters and other potential football fans in the town. I don't believe for second the crowd was that low. As others have said it just doesn't add up. The club should explain how they came to that figure because if the crowd was nearer 13,000 it sends out a very different message because they know all football fans want their club to be well supported. They owe it to the fans.. maybe the SLO could ask the question??
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Freebies maybe?
 
I was in the North block B and noticed empty seats in and around me. Also West and South had plenty of empty seats, I was thinking around 11 and half may a few more, so the official attendance is not really a surprise. Where on earth are you getting a figure of 13000 from??.
 
Seasider1 said:
I was in the North block B and noticed empty seats in and around me. Also West and South had plenty of empty seats, I was thinking around 11 and half may a few more, so the official attendance is not really a surprise. Where on earth are you getting a figure of 13000 from??.
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If you read my post I said "nearer 13,000" which is the figure most fans were expecting based on online sales and aways. Nearer could be 12,700 for example.
 
kuriousoranj said:
I disagree Lytham. It's the only input the fans have other than buying merchandise but that's minimal compared to gate receipts . The numbers at home games reflect where the club is and it sends out a very important message to floaters and other potential football fans in the town. I don't believe for second the crowd was that low. As others have said it just doesn't add up. The club should explain how they came to that figure because if the crowd was nearer 13,000 it sends out a very different message. The club know all football fans want their club to be well supported. They owe it to the fans.. maybe the SLO could ask the question??
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Must admit, I don’t get it either.
Also don’t see why so many think that 11k is so bad… it’s probably the highest attendance at Bloomers for a normal football league game in, what, 8/9 years? I know we’ve got new owners and we all need to get behind them… but the reality is that we have lost a generation of fans because of the shit show of the last few years and it will take years to bridge that gap.
 
Personally think the club were worried about the hordes of unrulyish teenagers who’d started flooding the North prior to lockdown and deliberately raised admission prices, with no under 21 reductions to nip it in the bud. Personally thought whilst the atmosphere was ok Saturday it was a bit happy clappy whereas pre-lockdown there was a disorganised tension which made for a firecracker of an atmosphere.
Think the loutish element have been to an extent been filtered out and the atmosphere and match day experience suffered as a result, not to mention around 1000 17-21 year olds off the attendance as they’ve been priced out. How can 18-21 year olds afford £30 it’s ridiculous.
 
My only other gripe with the club is the sudden closure of blocks and front rows unavailable. Whats all that about? It's like the new ground is slowly starting to suffer the same illness the old one did. Maybe it's the council's idea I don't know.. but it needs to be addressed.

Don't get me wrong.. I think the club in every other department is brilliant now.
 
Memphisboy said:
Personally think the club were worried about the hordes of unrulyish teenagers who’d started flooding the North prior to lockdown and deliberately raised admission prices, with no under 21 reductions to nip it in the bud. Personally thought whilst the atmosphere was ok Saturday it was a bit happy clappy whereas pre-lockdown there was a disorganised tension which made for a firecracker of an atmosphere.
Think the loutish element have been to an extent been filtered out and the atmosphere and match day experience suffered as a result, not to mention around 1000 17-21 year olds off the attendance as they’ve been priced out. How can 18-21 year olds afford £30 it’s ridiculous.
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Not sure I agree Memphis - I thought the atmosphere was good and plenty of lads in that age group were well represented in the North, although admittedly maybe a few can no longer afford to go as often.
 
Memphisboy said:
Personally think the club were worried about the hordes of unrulyish teenagers who’d started flooding the North prior to lockdown and deliberately raised admission prices, with no under 21 reductions to nip it in the bud. Personally thought whilst the atmosphere was ok Saturday it was a bit happy clappy whereas pre-lockdown there was a disorganised tension which made for a firecracker of an atmosphere.
Think the loutish element have been to an extent been filtered out and the atmosphere and match day experience suffered as a result, not to mention around 1000 17-21 year olds off the attendance as they’ve been priced out. How can 18-21 year olds afford £30 it’s ridiculous.
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I doubt regular people aren't going given the numbers we have.

People like that will find a way, maybe less games for some, but the hardcore kids or whoever won't be the ones who won't go. Plus not every game is 28, 24 tomorrow and some will be 20, apparently....

It'll be the casual fans who hardly go who are probably put off by the price.

Also the atmosphere second half was great, see my thread about the atmosphere with video.
 
voyeur said:
Barnsley game was Cat C, £23 Adult and £16 concession.

Their Cat A adult is £36 and Cat B is £28.

First two home games both Cat C.
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Interesting they have a cat system, they had mansford too, so probably him who brought it in here.

In a way to be able to offer some games for 20 is good but 28 also is not good.

Also games like tomorrow aren't exactly fans favourites yet are cat b so makes you wonder what a cat c is to get the 20.

Plus the walk on is more at 30 but so is buying a ticket online with the fee. Only way to avoid that is to walk in before the matchday.
 
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Look at this chap making stuff up, 2k Cardiff lol, was probably just under 2k boro and there were way less Cardiff.

Theres was load of gaps in the away end and Cardiff probably only brought 1500 tops.

South side of the East only holds just under 2200.

Yet look at the gaps we can see nevermid the ones where people are obscuring.

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Their own fans have said they give away probably 2k+ season tickets. Yet us having just under 10k home fans all sold is bad.... 🤡
 
I was surprised at the amount of empty seats, the published gate looks right to me and a bit disappointing given it was the first League game back after the pandemic and the first in the championship at home. Take the good Cardiff support and it looks pretty thin. I was expecting at least 13,000.
 
Just noticed the crowd v Bristol Rovers 2 years ago was bigger than Saturday 😯😯... I don't think the pandemic has helped with attendances so far in all of the divisions.
 
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