Wearing Face Masks

Will you still wear one if restrictions are relaxed?

  • Yes

    Votes: 60 52.2%

  • No

    Votes: 55 47.8%

  • Never Worn One

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Total voters
    115
I’ve never worn one.They do not prevent transmission of viruses.They are worn by surgeons to prevent bacteria entering an open wound.

Sanitising your hands is equally as pointless.A virus cannot “live” on any surface in the first place.It needs a human host cell to replicate otherwise it cannot store energy by itself.Scrubbing your hands and surfaces will eliminate bacteria only.
 
Ormergod said:
I’ve never worn one.They do not prevent transmission of viruses.They are worn by surgeons to prevent bacteria entering an open wound.

Sanitising your hands is equally as pointless.A virus cannot “live” on any surface in the first place.It needs a human host cell to replicate otherwise it cannot store energy by itself.Scrubbing your hands and surfaces will eliminate bacteria only.
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So you’ve not been in one single shop or supermarket then in over 12 months?

Seems like the WHO and all the medical experts are all wrong then in telling us what to do for the last 12 months.

Oh and if you’ve been vaccinated? (twice) you would have had to wear a face mask end of.

Or is the vaccination a waste of time also? 🙄
 
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Ormergod said:
I’ve never worn one.They do not prevent transmission of viruses.They are worn by surgeons to prevent bacteria entering an open wound.

Sanitising your hands is equally as pointless.A virus cannot “live” on any surface in the first place.It needs a human host cell to replicate otherwise it cannot store energy by itself.Scrubbing your hands and surfaces will eliminate bacteria only.
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This is just plain wrong
 
Ormergod said:
I’ve never worn one.They do not prevent transmission of viruses.They are worn by surgeons to prevent bacteria entering an open wound.

Sanitising your hands is equally as pointless.A virus cannot “live” on any surface in the first place.It needs a human host cell to replicate otherwise it cannot store energy by itself.Scrubbing your hands and surfaces will eliminate bacteria only.
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I tend to agree nearly 12 months we've been told to wear a mask it hasn't made a bit of difference only the vaccine has.
 
Ormergod said:
I’ve never worn one.They do not prevent transmission of viruses.They are worn by surgeons to prevent bacteria entering an open wound.

Sanitising your hands is equally as pointless.A virus cannot “live” on any surface in the first place.It needs a human host cell to replicate otherwise it cannot store energy by itself.Scrubbing your hands and surfaces will eliminate bacteria only.
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Fuck me. A real life virologist on the forum, do the government know about you?
 
Ormergod said:
I’ve never worn one. They do not prevent transmission of viruses. They are worn by surgeons to prevent bacteria entering an open wound.....🤔.....😳.....🤣
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This is like one of those TickTok video's where they say....Tell me you're stupid........without telling me your stupid....
 
BobHatton said:
I don't think the vaccine IS that effective tbh. It's something the World cried out for and was thus produced in the shortest time EVER!
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In terms of cases we're about where we were last October/November, but instead of 400 - 500 deaths per day we're down at about 20, so 90% - 95% effective.

To put that into context, if the vaccine had been available in January last year, our 120,000 or so deaths would've been more like 10,000.
 
bfcfan 1960 said:
The first few months the so called experts said there was no medical evidence to suggest wearing a masks would make much difference so what changed
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The medical evidence.

FWIW I think the question the OP asks is too narrow, it's not a case of yes and no, it's when will you stop wearing them and in what circumstances, personally I suspect for most they'll be around for a while yet.
 
Simple...indoors as in shops for example I still think in the short to medium term I expect we will be asked and in some cases required to wear one and if that’s the case I won’t hesitate to do so.
The irony in many ways other cultures especially in the Far East ( and those from there who for whatever reason have migrated here wether permanently or say for education) have happily done this for many many years if they think they are carrying or are in danger of a cold,etc and don’t give it a moments thought.
 
Just a question for any of our resident experts but how do you think the population will build a resistance to common colds and virus if we all continue to wear masks? I suppose the same theory applies to small children when they start nursery and pick up everything for the first few months. The body needs exposure to build up natural resistance and strengthen the immune system. Surely the adult population wearing masks whilst reducing the spread of disease will reduce our natural immune response?
 
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northstand said:
Just a question for any of our resident experts but how do you think the population will build a resistance to common colds and virus if we all continue to wear masks? I suppose the same theory applies to small children when they start nursery and pick up everything for the first few months. The body needs exposure to build up natural resistance and strengthen the immune system. Surely the adult population wearing masks whilst reducing the spread of disease will reduce our natural immune response?
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Excellent point but I think some people have genuinely forgot that human beings have immune systems & see masks as a security blanket.
 
Here's a fun story......regarding masks.

My son is vaccinated and watched the England v Germany game at a local St, Annes pub last Tuesday.....
Friday comes along and he's not feeling that great....ends up in bed
Saturday morning arrives and he cant even get out of bed, he's feeling really bad......

Turns out his mates are also feeling bad and 8 have already been for a C-19 test and all of them are positive......14 positive as of today
One of them was taken to the Vic on Friday afternoon because he couldn't breathe.....He was 24

Sunday arrives and 3 of us go to get a C-19 test (all wearing masks) and the results come back this morning at 6,00am
He's tested positive and 2 of us are negative.....he's still in bed feeling like crap

He's wearing a mask if he comes out of his bedroom and the same if we go in...
We are using enough hand sanitizer to keep B&M in profits and spraying every touch point with sanitizer....
Lateral flow tests every morning for this week...just to be sure

When Boris says....It's going to be personal choice...to wear masks in the pub, the shops or anywhere....on that day, when the bulk of people go.....yay, lets take them off.....Sorry, but I'm keeping mine on in supermarkets etc....

Will the same thing happen......will there be millions of households who are suddenly going to be ill...not seriously...bit like a mega 'flu' that will go around and knock people out for a few days.....but millions of us, even if you have been vaccinated?

Maybe it's the only way to build up our natural resistance and strengthening our immune system for this mega wave of 'flu' that must be coming...
 
Some are totally missing the point re mask wearing the changes have to come for some form of normality when the hospitality industry is losing money even when open due to limited numbers and table service and some venues still shut,being able to go a nightclub or music venue not being able to have a dance at a wedding sing at church on a Sunday etc etc none of this works without dropping the mask rule.

By all means if YOU want to carry on wearing them your personal choice but don't expect everyone to use them.
 
YouGov poll says 71% favour continued wearing of face masks on public transport and 66% in indoor situations.

52% is the official benchmark for 'overwhelming' so those against should suck it up. That's democracy, losers 😉🤣🤣
 
Matesrates said:
Problem is, as soon as they don’t have to, most people will gradually forget about hygiene, stop sanitising, stop washing hands regularly, picking their noses and then touching handles, surfaces etc, which we will then touch. Flu will probably rage again, as will bad colds and other bugs like norovirus which we largely avoided last winter due to mask wearing.
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You’re probably right ... it’s all a bit minging really !!!
 
It seems a bit odd to get rid of all protections at once whilst cases are going through the roof. I think the government are now making sure those who refused to get vaccinated get natural immunity instead, and doing so in summer whilst the NHS can cope rather than winter when other diseases kick in.
 
BigHandsOliverKahn said:
It seems a bit odd to get rid of all protections at once whilst cases are going through the roof.
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It's not all at once though is it? It's stage 4 of an unlocking process that started 4 months ago, and although cases are rising sharply it isn't feeding through to hospitalisations and death.
 
Lost Seasider said:
It's not all at once though is it? It's stage 4 of an unlocking process that started 4 months ago, and although cases are rising sharply it isn't feeding through to hospitalisations and death.
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Were the stages created prior to the Delta variant coming about? It seems like there's now a stage missing for the current situation.
 
BigHandsOliverKahn said:
Were the stages created prior to the Delta variant coming about? It seems like there's now a stage missing for the current situation.
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No there isn't a stage missing at all... The original plan to reopen on 21st June 2021 was delayed in order to assess the impact of the Delta Variant (i.e. A further 'Stage' that was introduced specifically because of the Delta Variant)
 
I wear spectacles, hearing aids and now a mask. There is quite a lot going on in the narrow space between the back of my near and the side of my head. The three things do not sit together well. Add to this my glasses regularly steaming up, no doubt here I am going to ditch the mask
 
BigHandsOliverKahn said:
Were the stages created prior to the Delta variant coming about?
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Step 2 was 12 April, Step 3 was 17 May, at which point there were about 2,000 cases per day (73% Delta), Delta was identified in April and upgraded to VOC on 6 May, so step 2 pre Delta, Step 3 post Delta.

Step 4 was due 21 June and has already been delayed a month due to Delta.


BigHandsOliverKahn said:
It seems like there's now a stage missing for the current situation.
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They've had a couple of months to monitor the effect of the Delta variant, the effect on healthcare and deaths is minor so far.

Perhaps the key point was made by Prof. Whitty, if we're not going to unlock over the summer, with the schools out and naturally the lowest point in the year for respiritory viruses, then when are we going to unlock?
 
Wizaard said:
My worry is that on a day to day basis, I very rarely see any common sense in action, more a selfish, stuff everyone else attitude.
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The selfish 'stuff everyone else' types stand out more, but I don't thnk they are the norm at all. That's certainly not been my experience in any case, where I'd say that the overwhelming majority of people have been thoughtful and considerate and have done the right thing.

I think my main frustration has been the fact that common sense has kind of been overidden and instead a kind of collective stupidity has evolved, whereby the so called 'rules' become more important than the actual objective.
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
The selfish 'stuff everyone else' types stand out more, but I don't thnk they are the norm at all. That's certainly not been my experience in any case, where I'd say that the overwhelming majority of people have been thoughtful and considerate and have done the right thing.

I think my main frustration has been the fact that common sense has kind of been overidden and instead a kind of collective stupidity has evolved, whereby the so called 'rules' become more important than the actual objective.
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True enough, but reading on here, some would refuse to wear a mask in any circumstances. I'm fine with the new proposals but masks will be appropriate sometimes.
 
Data from Israel, that was ahead of us in the vaccine rollout so gave them the opportunity to do a before and after comparison of the Delta variant for vaccinated people, suggest a 30% drop in vaccine efficacy due to the Delta variant. If our cases continue to rise at the current rate, then next Winter will be another tricky period. Enjoy the freedom while it lasts.
 
Wizaard said:
True enough, but reading on here, some would refuse to wear a mask in any circumstances. I'm fine with the new proposals but masks will be appropriate sometimes.
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There's lots of showboating certainty on the internet.

In real life, people tend to be more characterised by confusion.
 
Ormergod said:
I’ve never worn one.They do not prevent transmission of viruses.They are worn by surgeons to prevent bacteria entering an open wound.

Sanitising your hands is equally as pointless.A virus cannot “live” on any surface in the first place.It needs a human host cell to replicate otherwise it cannot store energy by itself.Scrubbing your hands and surfaces will eliminate bacteria only.
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At which particular meeting of the flat earth society, did you pick that little gem up?
 
Wizaard said:
True enough, but reading on here, some would refuse to wear a mask in any circumstances. I'm fine with the new proposals but masks will be appropriate sometimes.
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I think it's just a mindset really Wiz... I mean if anyone on here had, for example, been asked to put on a mask during the birth of their child, thne they wouldn't have batted an eyelid. I think the issue comes with what we might deem to be 'appropriate'..
 
Ormergod said:
I’ve never worn one.They do not prevent transmission of viruses.They are worn by surgeons to prevent bacteria entering an open wound.

Sanitising your hands is equally as pointless.A virus cannot “live” on any surface in the first place.It needs a human host cell to replicate otherwise it cannot store energy by itself.Scrubbing your hands and surfaces will eliminate bacteria only.
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You need to you ugly get😷
 
BigHandsOliverKahn said:
Data from Israel, that was ahead of us in the vaccine rollout so gave them the opportunity to do a before and after comparison of the Delta variant for vaccinated people, suggest a 30% drop in vaccine efficacy due to the Delta variant. If our cases continue to rise at the current rate, then next Winter will be another tricky period. Enjoy the freedom while it lasts.
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We will. I know you won’t. But honestly just try and be happy and enjoy life.
 
BigHandsOliverKahn said:
Data from Israel, that was ahead of us in the vaccine rollout so gave them the opportunity to do a before and after comparison of the Delta variant for vaccinated people, suggest a 30% drop in vaccine efficacy due to the Delta variant. If our cases continue to rise at the current rate, then next Winter will be another tricky period. Enjoy the freedom while it lasts.
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Ironically the relaxation of measures at this time will likely play a very signifcant role in diminishing the risk of a problematic Winter.
 
B_Side_The_C_Side said:
Here's a fun story......regarding masks.

My son is vaccinated and watched the England v Germany game at a local St, Annes pub last Tuesday.....
Friday comes along and he's not feeling that great....ends up in bed
Saturday morning arrives and he cant even get out of bed, he's feeling really bad......

Turns out his mates are also feeling bad and 8 have already been for a C-19 test and all of them are positive......14 positive as of today
One of them was taken to the Vic on Friday afternoon because he couldn't breathe.....He was 24

Sunday arrives and 3 of us go to get a C-19 test (all wearing masks) and the results come back this morning at 6,00am
He's tested positive and 2 of us are negative.....he's still in bed feeling like crap

He's wearing a mask if he comes out of his bedroom and the same if we go in...
We are using enough hand sanitizer to keep B&M in profits and spraying every touch point with sanitizer....
Lateral flow tests every morning for this week...just to be sure

When Boris says....It's going to be personal choice...to wear masks in the pub, the shops or anywhere....on that day, when the bulk of people go.....yay, lets take them off.....Sorry, but I'm keeping mine on in supermarkets etc....

Will the same thing happen......will there be millions of households who are suddenly going to be ill...not seriously...bit like a mega 'flu' that will go around and knock people out for a few days.....but millions of us, even if you have been vaccinated?

Maybe it's the only way to build up our natural resistance and strengthening our immune system for this mega wave of 'flu' that must be coming...
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Hope he and his pals make a speedy recovery. I do think this situation will be repeated again and again throughout the country in coming weeks.
it’s common sense, it’s a packed supermarket I’m putting one on, although I’m in the vulnerable class. All forms of public transport should be compulsory, i still remember the pictures of the London Underground packed out last year.
im in the US at the moment and mask are only to be worn if you have only had one or no jabs.
You say your lad has been vaccinated, which one did he have out of interest?
Anyway I hope you and the family are ok in a few days .
 
If I had to use public transport, which I used to, and now avoid, I would wear a mask.

As I work with the public, I’ll wear one at work.

If I have to be in a crowded indoor space (e.g supermarkets at busy times) I’ll wear a mask.

I’ll do that because even though I’m double jabbed, I can still get the virus, and although I’m unlikely to get seriously ill, I’m not a fan of being ill at all.

I’ll also do it because if I do have the virus, I don’t want to infect anyone else, who could be vulnerable.
 
www.google.com

COVID-19: Do face masks work? Here is what scientific studies say

The evidence overwhelmingly suggests that wearing a mask reduced transmissions of COVID-19. Here are the studies that prove it.
www.google.com www.google.com

I’m sure they’ll be many avftt scientist who dispute these findings.
I may wear mine on public transport long after covid 19 levels off, because normal flu, chest infections and all that malarkey aren’t pleasant in their own right either.
So if I can take control of my own health and minimise the chance of catching any infections or viruses I absolutely will 👍
 
Lala said:
www.google.com

COVID-19: Do face masks work? Here is what scientific studies say

The evidence overwhelmingly suggests that wearing a mask reduced transmissions of COVID-19. Here are the studies that prove it.
www.google.com www.google.com

I’m sure they’ll be many avftt scientist who dispute these findings.
I may wear mine on public transport long after covid 19 levels off, because normal flu, chest infections and all that malarkey aren’t pleasant in their own right either.
So if I can take control of my own health and minimise the chance of catching any infections or viruses I absolutely will 👍
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The opening sentence of that sky article “studies suggest”

Suggest.Not prove.

Also the studies they go on to list are not randomised clinical trials where masks are used alongside masks not used.

This is why they state clearly that real world data is harder to come by as there has only ever been one randomised clinical trial conducted in the world regarding masks and that was the Danish trial from last year where masks were compared alongside non mask use and found only a difference of 0.3% outcome between the two which is hardly definitive enough proof that the benefits outweigh the harms.
 
Ormergod said:
The opening sentence of that sky article “studies suggest”

Suggest.Not prove.

Also the studies they go on to list are not randomised clinical trials where masks are used alongside masks not used.

This is why they state clearly that real world data is harder to come by as there has only ever been one randomised clinical trial conducted in the world regarding masks and that was the Danish trial from last year where masks were compared alongside non mask use and found only a difference of 0.3% outcome between the two which is hardly definitive enough proof that the benefits outweigh the harms.
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So you're ignoring the word overwhelmingly?
 
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