Well done Kim Leadbeater

The lefttie media mob are wetting themselves, it’s as if the seat was taken from the tories with a massive majority, instead of labour holding onto the seat. Of course if Galloway hadn’t run, they would have won easily.

Regardless of political party, I would much rather have a local candidate as my MP.
 
As I said in the Batley & Spen discussion, The problem is Politics has become nasty, very divisive and no side is blame-free. This site is a microcosm of that, with hardened attitudes and dismissive stances towards those who disagree with their points of view. People like George Galloway with his holier than thou attitude and stirring up of certain sections of the community, which worked in Bradford for one term, add nothing of any substance only division to any debate.
Well done Kim Leadbetter. I just hope she is her own person and doesn't rely on the death of her sister as her one and only contribution to the constituency.
 
Was hoping the Yorkshire Party would win as it would be reet gradely to see a flat cap wearing MP with a ferret down his trousers in the Commons. Fair play to Labour they won and just think how much worse it would be if Charlie Drake’s The Workers Party had got in.😀
 
Curryman said:
As I said in the Batley & Spen discussion, The problem is Politics has become nasty, very divisive and no side is blame-free. This site is a microcosm of that, with hardened attitudes and dismissive stances towards those who disagree with their points of view. People like George Galloway with his holier than thou attitude and stirring up of certain sections of the community, which worked in Bradford for one term, add nothing of any substance only division to any debate.
Well done Kim Leadbetter. I just hope she is her own person and doesn't rely on the death of her sister as her one and only contribution to the constituency.
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“Doesn’t rely on the death of her sister as her only contribution to the constituency”. What on earth does that mean?
 
It'll be interesting to know why a recount was refused - has the returning officer deemed the request unreasonable?
 
Curryman said:
As I said in the Batley & Spen discussion, The problem is Politics has become nasty, very divisive and no side is blame-free. This site is a microcosm of that, with hardened attitudes and dismissive stances towards those who disagree with their points of view. People like George Galloway with his holier than thou attitude and stirring up of certain sections of the community, which worked in Bradford for one term, add nothing of any substance only division to any debate.
Well done Kim Leadbetter. I just hope she is her own person and doesn't rely on the death of her sister as her one and only contribution to the constituency.
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That last sentence comes across as very crass to say the least, poor form.
 
Ollygon said:
Where's Scaremonger when you need his measured view?
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Finding the Left nipple position already occupied, then finding himself blocked by the incumbent Right nipple he’s moved to the centre ground but is having a fight on his hands with the Belly Button - I think!
 
The best thing about this is that Galloway has achieved the opposite result from that he intended. He may be the most poisonous person in British politics as well as one of the biggest fools.
 
coppiceman said:
The best thing about this is that Galloway has achieved the opposite result from that he intended. He may be the most poisonous people in British politics as well as one of the biggest fools.
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Will his Tory Party paymasters put their hand in their pocket for his Court Challenge though?
 
Curryman said:
As I said in the Batley & Spen discussion, The problem is Politics has become nasty, very divisive and no side is blame-free. This site is a microcosm of that, with hardened attitudes and dismissive stances towards those who disagree with their points of view. People like George Galloway with his holier than thou attitude and stirring up of certain sections of the community, which worked in Bradford for one term, add nothing of any substance only division to any debate.
Well done Kim Leadbetter. I just hope she is her own person and doesn't rely on the death of her sister as her one and only contribution to the constituency.
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Fuck me, that last sentence is a nasty underhand shot.
 
Just seen Dianne Abbott do a car crash interview on BBC news. Can't bring herself to back Starmer in any way when repeatedly asked. Today of all days.
 
It seems I am persona non grata on this side of the board, when genuine comments are classed as nasty, underhand and throw whatever else you want into that theme. I will suggest the site is renamed the left wing cabal, or here be leftie dragons, enter all ye who will at their own risk. It appears to me that because I'm not part of the left wing, my posts are deliberately misunderstood and twisted to make them sound wicked. Anyway as there seems to be little in the way of genuine interlocution on this side of the board, I'll leave you all to it and stick to football.
 
Galloway is a horrible Scottish Nazi bastard. Anyone who voted for him should be deported.
 
Curryman said:
It seems I am persona non grata on this side of the board, when genuine comments are classed as nasty, underhand and throw whatever else you want into that theme. I will suggest the site is renamed the left wing cabal, or here be leftie dragons, enter all ye who will at their own risk. It appears to me that because I'm not part of the left wing, my posts are deliberately misunderstood and twisted to make them sound wicked. Anyway as there seems to be little in the way of genuine interlocution on this side of the board, I'll leave you all to it and stick to football.
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Or back your own comments up instead of blaming those nasty lefties for being horrid.
 
Bottle said:
Finding the Left nipple position already occupied, then finding himself blocked by the incumbent Right nipple he’s moved to the centre ground but is having a fight on his hands with the Belly Button - I think!
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Is that one of those articulate replies you talk about.
 
Ollygon said:
Where's Scaremonger when you need his measured view?
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Right ok, wasn’t going to bother but just to keep my fan base happy here goes.

1) The whole debacle has been a disgrace to British politics
2) The fact no party has really defended the teacher and his family that are in hiding due to what can only described as an absolute disgrace in a free society
3) Labour we’re lucky for a couple of reasons, Matt Hancock being a total ** and George Galloway popping up to stir the pot.
4) The greens party decision to withdraw has been somewhat overshadowed and any other time would of been pulled up for rank hypocrisy.
5) The fact that nobody seems to want to talk about the Elephant in the room is still part of the problem we have in this country
6) The fact that nobody seem to get too upset that Kim Leadbetter was hounded out of town by Right wing extremists live on camera after what happened to her sister once again speaks volumes.

Lastly and I mean lastly on this subject, best of luck Kim Leadbetter as god knows she’s going to need it if she wants to peddle identity politics in that constituency. Now for all the Rabid Leftwaffle that feel the need to call me all the names under the sun and liken me to Hitler fill your boots.
 
Scaramanga said:
Right ok, wasn’t going to bother but just to keep my fan base happy here goes.

1) The whole debacle has been a disgrace to British politics
2) The fact no party has really defended the teacher and his family that are in hiding due to what can only described as an absolute disgrace in a free society
3) Labour we’re lucky for a couple of reasons, Matt Hancock being a total ** and George Galloway popping up to stir the pot.
4) The greens party decision to withdraw has been somewhat overshadowed and any other time would of been pulled up for rank hypocrisy.
5) The fact that nobody seems to want to talk about the Elephant in the room is still part of the problem we have in this country
6) The fact that nobody seem to get too upset that Kim Leadbetter was hounded out of town by Right wing extremists live on camera after what happened to her sister once again speaks volumes.

Lastly and I mean lastly on this subject, best of luck Kim Leadbetter as god knows she’s going to need it if she wants to peddle identity politics in that constituency. Now for all the Rabid Leftwaffle that feel the need to call me all the names under the sun and liken me to Hitler fill your boots.
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I think we've established its not the left using Hitler comparisons today😉

Galloway took 8000 votes off Labour, not the Tories, so I'm not sure how it's helped them.

How you have the nerve to mention Kim's hounding is breath taking, given that you were laughing at it.
 
Scaramanga said:
Right ok, wasn’t going to bother but just to keep my fan base happy here goes.

1) The whole debacle has been a disgrace to British politics
2) The fact no party has really defended the teacher and his family that are in hiding due to what can only described as an absolute disgrace in a free society
3) Labour we’re lucky for a couple of reasons, Matt Hancock being a total ** and George Galloway popping up to stir the pot.
4) The greens party decision to withdraw has been somewhat overshadowed and any other time would of been pulled up for rank hypocrisy.
5) The fact that nobody seems to want to talk about the Elephant in the room is still part of the problem we have in this country
6) The fact that nobody seem to get too upset that Kim Leadbetter was hounded out of town by Right wing extremists live on camera after what happened to her sister once again speaks volumes.

Lastly and I mean lastly on this subject, best of luck Kim Leadbetter as god knows she’s going to need it if she wants to peddle identity politics in that constituency. Now for all the Rabid Leftwaffle that feel the need to call me all the names under the sun and liken me to Hitler fill your boots.
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I’d say that was a pretty reasonable response well made Scara 👍

The Green Party Candidate pulled out because some previous homophobic comments he made a couple of years ago on Social Media resurfaced and not because of any Labour/Green pact.
 
Lytham_fy8 said:
Our ex owner gets a little mention in the Grauniad piece.

www.theguardian.com

George Galloway doesn't 'sow division'. He sprays it everywhere | Marina Hyde

Batley and Spen’s voters have rejected him, after a byelection campaign so toxic you’d need a hazmat suit just to read about it, says Guardian columnist Marina Hyde
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'The three most prominent hat-wearing guys in public life are George Galloway, weirdo anatomist Gunther von Hagens, and that rapist who used to own Blackpool football club. Sorry, but case closed. Hang on, Bono once sued a former U2 stylist all the way to the high court for the return of a hat – though of course, there’s nothing there to make one reopen the case files either.'

Brilliant 😆
 
They held the seat with a majority of 300, from 3000. A win is a win though. It's not intended to be an insult but Kim Leadbetter is always introduced as "sister of murdered MP, Jo Cox" she's been picked precisely because of that and she's won, do the strategists will be delighted.

Galloway standing and polling as well as he has could be the first step for the Muslim community to move away from Labour. Labour lost loads of views to the Brexit Party, then they went to the Tories. He might be that stepping stone to a different party (he might not).

The Tories should actually be reasonably pleased to get so close in that constituency. They are incumbents and looking well in some very awkward constituencies. It also means Keir Steamer stays as leader, which will mean the left will keep eating themselves rather than being an effective opposition.

At least the constituents aren't going to be insulted on Twitter as they gave the 'right' result.
 
Curryman said:
It seems I am persona non grata on this side of the board, when genuine comments are classed as nasty, underhand and throw whatever else you want into that theme. I will suggest the site is renamed the left wing cabal, or here be leftie dragons, enter all ye who will at their own risk. It appears to me that because I'm not part of the left wing, my posts are deliberately misunderstood and twisted to make them sound wicked. Anyway as there seems to be little in the way of genuine interlocution on this side of the board, I'll leave you all to it and stick to football.
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No need to go off in a fit of pique. I too considered your final sentence very crass. Nevertheless, the rest of your post had merit. And no, I'm not trying to patronise
 
Wizaard said:
I think we've established its not the left using Hitler comparisons today😉

Galloway took 8000 votes off Labour, not the Tories, so I'm not sure how it's helped them.

How you have the nerve to mention Kim's hounding is breath taking, given that you were laughing at it.
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Go on, prove the laughing ?you cant.
 
TSSeasider said:
They held the seat with a majority of 300, from 3000. A win is a win though. It's not intended to be an insult but Kim Leadbetter is always introduced as "sister of murdered MP, Jo Cox" she's been picked precisely because of that and she's won, do the strategists will be delighted.

Galloway standing and polling as well as he has could be the first step for the Muslim community to move away from Labour. Labour lost loads of views to the Brexit Party, then they went to the Tories. He might be that stepping stone to a different party (he might not).

The Tories should actually be reasonably pleased to get so close in that constituency. They are incumbents and looking well in some very awkward constituencies. It also means Keir Steamer stays as leader, which will mean the left will keep eating themselves rather than being an effective opposition.

At least the constituents aren't going to be insulted on Twitter as they gave the 'right' result.
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Strange one TSSeasider. On this occasion I think you've called it wrong.
Kim Leadbeater decided, herself, to stand and I think Labour would have been very callous to have denied her the opportunity. Besides, she is local and the importation of a non-local candidate might well have killed Labour here.

I don't think the Muslim community will move away from Labour. Galloway has trawled his - intellectually credible but practically vindictive - anti-Israeli schtick around Britain's Parliamentary constituencies for years. Here, he was trying to get rid of Starmer by using local Asians. Even then, his only reason was to big-up himself. The man's all ego and media-whore. The Muslim women were right to condemn the violence and I can see their men who fell for Galloway, returning to the fold.

The Tories put in a reasonable showing but then it never had been a die-hard Labour seat. Fairly solid Labour but with a fair Tory following. I don't see the Conservative vote growing any further here. In a GE I can only see a growth in the Labour vote.

As for Sir Keir, yes, he remains as Labour leader. I am currently ambivalent but I do believe that whilst the momentum seems to be with Johnson, it will be his advantage to lose. I can see that happening.
 
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1966_and_all_that said:
Strange one TSSeasider. On this occasion I think you called it wrong.
Kim Leadbeater decided, herself, to stand and I think Labour would have been very callous to have denied her the opportunity. Besides, she is local and the importation of a non-local candidate might well have killed Labour here.

I don't think the Muslim community will move away from Labour. Galloway has trawled his - intellectually credible but practically vindictive - anti-Israeli schtick around Britain's Parliamentary constituencies for years. Here, he was trying to get rid of Starmer by using local Asians. Even then, his only reason was to big-up himself. The man's all ego and media-whore. The Muslim women were right to condemn the violence and I can see their men who fell for Galloway, returning to the fold.

The Tories put in a reasonable showing but then it never had been a die-hard Labour seat. Fairly solid Labour but with a fair Tory following. I don't see the Conservative vote growing any further here. In a GE I can only see a growth in the Labour vote.

As for Sir Keir, yes, he remains as Labour leader. I am currently ambivalent but I do believe that whilst the momentum seems to be with Johnson, it will be his advantage to lose. I can see that happening.
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The seat was Tory from 83 to 97.
 
1966_and_all_that said:
Strange one TSSeasider. On this occasion I think you've called it wrong.
Kim Leadbeater decided, herself, to stand and I think Labour would have been very callous to have denied her the opportunity. Besides, she is local and the importation of a non-local candidate might well have killed Labour here.

I don't think the Muslim community will move away from Labour. Galloway has trawled his - intellectually credible but practically vindictive - anti-Israeli schtick around Britain's Parliamentary constituencies for years. Here, he was trying to get rid of Starmer by using local Asians. Even then, his only reason was to big-up himself. The man's all ego and media-whore. The Muslim women were right to condemn the violence and I can see their men who fell for Galloway, returning to the fold.

The Tories put in a reasonable showing but then it never had been a die-hard Labour seat. Fairly solid Labour but with a fair Tory following. I don't see the Conservative vote growing any further here. In a GE I can only see a growth in the Labour vote.

As for Sir Keir, yes, he remains as Labour leader. I am currently ambivalent but I do believe that whilst the momentum seems to be with Johnson, it will be his advantage to lose. I can see that happening.
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I'm in the next constituency, literally 100 yards away from the border. We were a rock solid Labour seat under Ed Balls until Andrea Jenkyns got in on a hard right, Brexit ticket and has retained the seat in two subsequent elections. Until recently there were BNP councillors playing on anti Muslim sentiment.

The Tory right has gained, and will gain in these disaffected constituencies unless Labour wake up to it and point out that after a decade of Tory rule, things have got worse, not better round here.
 
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