Welsh….All sporting events Behind closed doors…

Cardiff fans won’t be happy…wonder how many weeks Drakeford will impose the ban for?
We play Cardiff on Feb 19th.
 
Cardiff game off on Boxing Day, I wonder if they thought there’s no point let’s just cancel it.
 
It's a no win . If they go back to lockdown, they'll be accused of killing businesses etc. If they don't take action, they'll be accused of just that and not doing enough to protect the population.
 
michellebutterflyhotel said:
What’s the point of being triple jabbed and then still not being able to get on with your life. Outdoors space is Spose to be the best. Oh wait.
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Maybe combined with social distancing measures but logistically on the concourses and in toilet areas that is difficult. Reduced capacity is once again an option but with tickets already having been sold for the next few games that too would cause issues.
A tricky situation once again….no right or wrong answer and we know whatever the decisions they won’t please everyone.
 
I see that Wales have a 6 Nations Union home game v Scotland on 12th Feb, the Saturday before our game at Cardiff City. The cynic in me thinks the Welsh Government will do everything they can to get sporting events back in front of crowds by then…
 
hampshire_exile said:
I see that Wales have a 6 Nations Union home game v Scotland on 12th Feb, the Saturday before our game at Cardiff City. The cynic in me thinks the Welsh Government will do everything they can to get sporting events back in front of crowds by then…
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How much notice does a venue need to be told they are allowed to reopen in able for them to sell tickets…2/3 weeks?
 
Presumably someone in the know can confirm, but I'd assume that hospitals in Wales and Scotland are under greater pressure - particularly in rural communities - and the local population have a higher percentage of vulnerable people.
 
The Welsh have completely over-reacted in pretty much every respect from day 1 of the pandemic.

Some of their policies have been ridiculous.

Hopefully Boris will hold his nerve and respond with additional measures only if it becomes absolutely necessary.
 
I don't think he dare cancel xmas, however I fully expect more measures from the 28th
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
The Welsh have completely over-reacted in pretty much every respect from day 1 of the pandemic.

Some of their policies have been ridiculous.

Hopefully Boris will hold his nerve and respond with additional measures only if it becomes absolutely necessary.
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Yeah but how many lives were lost cos Boris delayed previous lockdowns too long? I think he's even admitted so himself, which is pretty remarkable.
 
straightatthewall said:
Presumably someone in the know can confirm, but I'd assume that hospitals in Wales and Scotland are under greater pressure - particularly in rural communities - and the local population have a higher percentage of vulnerable people.
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Yes, saw that mentioned in previous waves. Less hospitals means less chance of coping with waves like this.
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
I've no idea, I'm referring to the ridiculous policies adopted by the Welsh Government.
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www.theguardian.com

Omicron is spreading at an alarming rate, and there's no solid evidence it's 'milder' | William Hanage

Epidemics of rapidly transmitting viruses are not kind to overstretched healthcare systems, says academic William Hanage
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com

- Dr William Hanage, professor of the evolution and epidemiology of infectious disease at Harvard and the co-director of the Center for Communicable Disease Dynamics.
 
voyeur said:
www.theguardian.com

Omicron is spreading at an alarming rate, and there's no solid evidence it's 'milder' | William Hanage

Epidemics of rapidly transmitting viruses are not kind to overstretched healthcare systems, says academic William Hanage
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com

- Dr William Hanage, professor of the evolution and epidemiology of infectious disease at Harvard and the co-director of the Center for Communicable Disease Dynamics.
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Do you think he was responsible for the Policy to shut down my local forest and the recommendation not to wear masks?
 
Drakeford has pretty much got everything wrong all the way through this in my opinion

The Welsh NHS is crumbling due to the miss management of the Welsh Labour Party

If anyone things the UK would be better with Labour in charge only has to look at the cluster fuck Drakeford is managing in Wales with his Welsh Labour idiots ...
 
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straightatthewall said:
Presumably someone in the know can confirm, but I'd assume that hospitals in Wales and Scotland are under greater pressure - particularly in rural communities - and the local population have a higher percentage of vulnerable people.
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Not obviously according to government website, cases actually down a bit from a couple of of months back.

I think this is Labour playing politics again, Boris isn't doing something so they will, and if they get lucky Sir Keir will claim they were right and Boris was wrong.
 
I had a post deleted from this thread for referring to the fact that Mark Drakeford was dancing at Diwali celebrations.

I was told that the reason my post was deleted was, "We are not sure why you felt the need to introduce a race element to this" but was unable to reply.

I was simply explaining that the Welsh First Minister who was ultimately responsible for imposing the restrictions referred to in the opening post - sporting events in Wales behind closed doors - was seen openly dancing at Diwali celebrations.

This was a statement of fact, if I was just to have called Drakeford a hypocrite, no doubt I would have been asked to explain such a statement so I just provided additional information that was relevant to the topic of discussion.

So why on earth did the moderator feel the need to delete the post and why on earth did he feel the need to accuse me of introducing a race element ?

The Welsh First Minister was dancing at Diwali celebrations, that is a FACT and it is rather disappointing that the moderator feels the need to make frivolous accusations of racism against me because of his blatant personal agenda.
 
SEASIDE2020 said:
I had a post deleted from this thread for referring to the fact that Mark Drakeford was dancing at Diwali celebrations.

I was told that the reason my post was deleted was, "We are not sure why you felt the need to introduce a race element to this" but was unable to reply.

I was simply explaining that the Welsh First Minister who was ultimately responsible for imposing the restrictions referred to in the opening post - sporting events in Wales behind closed doors - was seen openly dancing at Diwali celebrations.

This was a statement of fact, if I was just to have called Drakeford a hypocrite, no doubt I would have been asked to explain such a statement so I just provided additional information that was relevant to the topic of discussion.

So why on earth did the moderator feel the need to delete the post and why on earth did he feel the need to accuse me of introducing a race element ?

The Welsh First Minister was dancing at Diwali celebrations, that is a FACT and it is rather disappointing that the moderator feels the need to make frivolous accusations of racism against me because of his blatant personal agenda.
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I'm going for...

a) The moderator is in some way prejudiced towards you as an individual
b) The moderator is trigger happy
c) The moderator is hyper sensitive to issues concerning race (unless he/she likes the poster, in which case you can post what you like)
 
voyeur said:
www.theguardian.com

Omicron is spreading at an alarming rate, and there's no solid evidence it's 'milder' | William Hanage

Epidemics of rapidly transmitting viruses are not kind to overstretched healthcare systems, says academic William Hanage
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com

- Dr William Hanage, professor of the evolution and epidemiology of infectious disease at Harvard and the co-director of the Center for Communicable Disease Dynamics.
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What does he know? Is he even registered on this board?
 
Phil_bfc deux said:
Drakeford has pretty much got everything wrong all the way through this in my opinion

The Welsh NHS is crumbling due to the miss management of the Welsh Labour Party

If anyone things the UK would be better with Labour in charge only has to look at the cluster fuck Drakeford is managing in Wales with his Welsh Labour idiots ...
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I agree that he has got it wrong but if Drakeford is imposing the restrictions in the best interests of the health of his nation and I just happen to disagree that's fair enough.

I hope that he is not making political decisions like Sturgeon has done/is doing.
 
SEASIDE2020 said:
I had a post deleted from this thread for referring to the fact that Mark Drakeford was dancing at Diwali celebrations.

I was told that the reason my post was deleted was, "We are not sure why you felt the need to introduce a race element to this" but was unable to reply.

I was simply explaining that the Welsh First Minister who was ultimately responsible for imposing the restrictions referred to in the opening post - sporting events in Wales behind closed doors - was seen openly dancing at Diwali celebrations.

This was a statement of fact, if I was just to have called Drakeford a hypocrite, no doubt I would have been asked to explain such a statement so I just provided additional information that was relevant to the topic of discussion.

So why on earth did the moderator feel the need to delete the post and why on earth did he feel the need to accuse me of introducing a race element ?

The Welsh First Minister was dancing at Diwali celebrations, that is a FACT and it is rather disappointing that the moderator feels the need to make frivolous accusations of racism against me because of his blatant personal agenda.
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🤦🏻‍♂️I swear the mods are getting worse on here.
 
If I was Cardiff and Swansea I wouldn't play a home match until the restrictions where lifted as they have sold tickets for the games and it's totally unfair that with no fans you give an advantage to the away team.

They are going to have to start refunding again which is ridiculous.
 
SEASIDE2020 said:
He's just a big bully Scara and he shouldn't get away with it but he will do.

He has perfectly demonstrated his own prejudices on here but that won't make any difference.
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If you knew anything about Diwali, you'd know that one of its focal points to celebrate Rama and Dita is food. The regulations in Wales at the time (Nov 2021) said masks were not needed in places where food is available. This was a licensed religious festival. If you're trying to compare him to Johnson last Christmas or in May 2020, you're way off the mark imo
 
southshorepool said:
If you knew anything about Diwali, you'd know that one of its focal points to celebrate Rama and Dita is food. The regulations in Wales at the time (Nov 2021) said masks were not needed in places where food is available. This was a licensed religious festival. If you're trying to compare him to Johnson last Christmas or in May 2020, you're way off the mark imo
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In fairness, dancing around without a mask on is a pretty stupid thing for the Welsh Minister to be doing.... It didn't look to me like much food was knocking about in the setting either (looked more like an office)..

Drakeford is an absolute twonk
 
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southshorepool said:
If you knew anything about Diwali, you'd know that one of its focal points to celebrate Rama and Dita is food. The regulations in Wales at the time (Nov 2021) said masks were not needed in places where food is available. This was a licensed religious festival. If you're trying to compare him to Johnson last Christmas or in May 2020, you're way off the mark imo
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I don't know anything about Diwali and never claimed to do so and I was not making any comparison with Boris Johnson and I didn't even mention masks.

Drakeford was dancing indoors and in close proximity to others at a Diwali celebration and he is also ultimately responsible for the restrictions that are now being imposed, anybody can make of that what they wish.

Thanks for informing me about Diwali but I'm struggling what it is that I am way ooff the mark with ?
 
SEASIDE2020 said:
I don't know anything about Diwali and never claimed to do so and I was not making any comparison with Boris Johnson and I didn't even mention masks.

Drakeford was dancing indoors and in close proximity to others at a Diwali celebration and he is also ultimately responsible for the restrictions that are now being imposed, anybody can make of that what they wish.

Thanks for informing me about Diwali but I'm struggling what it is that I am way ooff the mark with ?
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Behave yourself. This happened at the beginning of November when restrictions in Wales were different to those coming in next week. How can he be being hypocritical if he was within the rules at the time? Or do you just not like people dancing? Smiles.
I think deep down you know what you were doing but that's you all over. Ever the victim.
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
In fairness, dancing around without a mask on is a pretty stupid thing for the Welsh Minister to be doing.... It didn't look to me like much food was knocking about in the setting either (looked more like an office)..

Drakeford is an absolute twonk
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It was held at a room at Cardiff University and it wouldn't be a diwali celebration if there was no food there. I get your point about whether it was the cleverest thing to do but it's a false equivalent to Johnson etc imo. (Which I appreciate you didn't bring up)
 
southshorepool said:
It was held at a room at Cardiff University and it wouldn't be a diwali celebration if there was no food there. I get your point about whether it was the cleverest thing to do but it's a false equivalent to Johnson etc imo. (Which I appreciate you didn't bring up)
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Well I suppose you can look at it both ways really.... Drakeford was behaving like a total whopper in the full knowledge that the public would see the irresponsible behaviour in all it's glory, whereas Boris just acted like a ** on the sly.

To my mind the video of Drakeford absolutely typifies the utter stupidity I've witnessed in Wales first hand...

Closure of open air spaces and then that stupid ** is prancing around among crowds in an unventilated space. More interested in a ** PR exercise to make himself look culturally relevant and right on than consistency of message.

No time for any of them, they're all knob heads🤣
 
southshorepool said:
Behave yourself. This happened at the beginning of November when restrictions in Wales were different to those coming in next week. How can he be being hypocritical if he was within the rules at the time? Or do you just not like people dancing? Smiles.
I think deep down you know what you were doing but that's you all over. Ever the victim.
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He was dancing indoors and close to others.

I have no problem with dancing but I do think that he appeared to be happy to do as he pleased and I'm sure plenty folk will question his credibility.

If you disagree and feel that Drakeford did nothing wrong then that's fair enough, I have no problem with you holding such an opinion or with you expressing such an opinion on here.

You say that I'm ever the victim but if you knew exactly how the mod has behaved towards me I'm sure that you would not be so flippant.

I am lucky that I am strong enough to handle his bullying but your attitude will do nothing to stop his bullying and his next victim might not be so fortunate, so surely it would be a better idea to encourage him to clamp down on his bullying rather than to encourage it.
 
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