Wendies docked 12 points

EFL statement

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EFL Statement: Sheffield Wednesday verdict

An independent Disciplinary Commission, appointed under EFL Regulations, has ruled that Sheffield Wednesday will receive a 12 point deduction for breaching the League’s Profitability and Sustainability Rules for the three season reporting period ending with Season 2017/18.
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About time and hope the appeals process doesnt overturn this.

As Ken Bates said-those who voted for sanctions by way of points deductions have lived to regret it.
 
It means nothing to a club of such magnitude. The 2.3 million supporters they get every other week will see them right.
 
The same rules should apply to both Wigan and Massive. Once again a cock up of gigantic proportions for the fans.
 
They’re saying that had the season finished as normal in May. Wednesdays case wouldn’t have been heard till this week and decision today means it rolls onto next season.
 
Charlton not happy, if applied to this season they would be down instead of them. Mad as charged in November but wait till season ends to announce result
 
I’ve never been convinced (well since Luton got clobbered anyway) that a points deduction is an appropriate sanction. Seems to me it punishes the fans, not the persons who should be punished, namely the misbehaving owners.

And I certainly don’t think Wigan should be hit. The way they went into administration was just wrong, with a lot of questions for the EFL to answer.

Not quite the same but how would we have felt if we’d been deducted 12 points when the court appointed the receiver?
 
Mexboroseasider said:
Not quite the same but how would we have felt if we’d been deducted 12 points when the court appointed the receiver?
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It's a good question, and it is somewhat ironic that after studiously looking the other way for years, the EFL put our INTERM BOARD under pressure to demonstrate that they had the financial wherewithal to continue as a functioning club. The fact that we came through that unscathed (in terms of points lost) was down to a combination of a hell of a lot of work by the interim Board (at a time when gobshites on here were trying to undermine them, by the way) and a LOT of lobbying behind the scenes by the Board and the Trust.

The burden of proof (and implied guilt) was all wrong, but had the new team running the club not fought back hard it could easily have been us facing a hefty points deduction and a relegation battle.
 
Mexboroseasider said:
I’ve never been convinced (well since Luton got clobbered anyway) that a points deduction is an appropriate sanction. Seems to me it punishes the fans, not the persons who should be punished, namely the misbehaving owners.

And I certainly don’t think Wigan should be hit. The way they went into administration was just wrong, with a lot of questions for the EFL to answer.

Not quite the same but how would we have felt if we’d been deducted 12 points when the court appointed the receiver?
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Whelan propped up Wigan for years and i think bailed out when they no longer had the PL income and knew that they would be an increasing drain on resources. And the subsequent owners had invested £40m in buying Wigan and covering subsequent losses. Wigan fans are blaming the EFL for their predicament, but they were put into administration because the owners weren't prepared to put any more money into funding a loss making club (£18m over the last 2 years alone) and with deferred wage payments, deferrred transfer payments and other football (and probably non-football ) debts due. It is not just those debts putting off prospective buyers but also the fact that their player wage bill is massively over budget, especially since the PL parachute payments dried up. That wage bill needs to be at least halved from the current £18m. Irrespective of individual owner behaviour, massive overspending was the downfall of Bolton, Portsmouth, Bury and others who went into administration. I don't see how the Wigwn position is different.
In Blackpool's case, it was a dispute between the owners, we never went into administration and did not at any stage threaten to not pay our football or non-football creditors.
 
Pete.
bfcpete said:
Whelan propped up Wigan for years and i think bailed out when they no longer had the PL income and knew that they would be an increasing drain on resources. And the subsequent owners had invested £40m in buying Wigan and covering subsequent losses. Wigan fans are blaming the EFL for their predicament, but they were put into administration because the owners weren't prepared to put any more money into funding a loss making club (£18m over the last 2 years alone) and with deferred wage payments, deferrred transfer payments and other football (and probably non-football ) debts due. It is not just those debts putting off prospective buyers but also the fact that their player wage bill is massively over budget, especially since the PL parachute payments dried up. That wage bill needs to be at least halved from the current £18m. Irrespective of individual owner behaviour, massive overspending was the downfall of Bolton, Portsmouth, Bury and others who went into administration. I don't see how the Wigwn position is different.
In Blackpool's case, it was a dispute between the owners, we never went into administration and did not at any stage threaten to not pay our football or non-football creditors.
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That’s all well and good but the administration of Wigan had nothing to do with the previous spend. No-one pays tens of millions of pounds for a club one day, and decides they can’t afford to run it and puts it into administration the next. The whole thing stinks and the EFL have serious questions to answer. My question is why should the club/fans be punished because of a dodgy owner and an incompetent EFL?

As for BFC I think you need to cast your mind back to when the administrative receivers were appointed, and the parlous financial state they found at the club when they finally got through the doors. I don’t think you appreciate just how bad it was.
 
basilrobbie said:
It's a good question, and it is somewhat ironic that after studiously looking the other way for years, the EFL put our INTERM BOARD under pressure to demonstrate that they had the financial wherewithal to continue as a functioning club. The fact that we came through that unscathed (in terms of points lost) was down to a combination of a hell of a lot of work by the interim Board (at a time when gobshites on here were trying to undermine them, by the way) and a LOT of lobbying behind the scenes by the Board and the Trust.

The burden of proof (and implied guilt) was all wrong, but had the new team running the club not fought back hard it could easily have been us facing a hefty points deduction and a relegation battle.
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Exactly. And to have an organisation that was culpable, over many years, in the problems at BFC to actually sit in judgment; is just very, very wrong by any messure.
 
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