What the Boro fans are saying

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Am sure if the boot was on the other foot, most of them would be clamouring to get this one called off.
 
Shock horror, I wonder if they would of been so keen to play if Warnock was still making a ** of it up there. I doubt that very much. Gazboro might be a voice of reason ?
 
I don't understand the EFL, not for the first time, saying that so long as a team have14 fit players including a goalkeeper the game should go on. My worry is that with 14 fit players you only have 3 subs which does not include a goalkeeper, so no replacement for him, and if, as happened at Huddersfield, there is a concussion substitution to the opposing team, the team with 14 players is only able to make three substitutions to the oppositions four.

Add to this the case of games like Hull v Sheff Utd which has been called off, it gives the team playing once a week a distinct advantage over the team they will be playing, in this case, Blackpool, who have played three games in 7 days.

It looks like another complete and utter case of fuckwittery from the EFL , who are not fit to run a children's playground game never mind a professional game.😠
 
I don't understand the EFL, not for the first time, saying that so long as a team have14 fit players including a goalkeeper the game should go on. My worry is that with 14 fit players you only have 3 subs which does not include a goalkeeper, so no replacement for him, and if, as happened at Huddersfield, there is a concussion substitution to the opposing team, the team with 14 players is only able to make three substitutions to the oppositions four.

Add to this the case of games like Hull v Sheff Utd which has been called off, it gives the team playing once a week a distinct advantage over the team they will be playing, in this case, Blackpool, who have played three games in 7 days.

It looks like another complete and utter case of fuckwittery from the EFL , who are not fit to run a children's playground game never mind a professional game.😠
Spot on Curryman. If has mentioned on another thread we have 6 Covid cases and 6 injuries we are down to a threadbare 13 of which some have hardly kicked a ball yet, and how many others outside of the 25 man squad are eligible? Another example of the EFLs incompetence to get things right. In my view all matches should be suspended for say 2-4 weeks to stop teams being disadvantaged while we get through the worst of this Covid wave but if the WC in Qatar is driving timescales, then simply cancel the WC because nobody wants to see it go ahead anyway!
 
I don't understand the EFL, not for the first time, saying that so long as a team have14 fit players including a goalkeeper the game should go on. My worry is that with 14 fit players you only have 3 subs which does not include a goalkeeper, so no replacement for him, and if, as happened at Huddersfield, there is a concussion substitution to the opposing team, the team with 14 players is only able to make three substitutions to the oppositions four.

Add to this the case of games like Hull v Sheff Utd which has been called off, it gives the team playing once a week a distinct advantage over the team they will be playing, in this case, Blackpool, who have played three games in 7 days.

It looks like another complete and utter case of fuckwittery from the EFL , who are not fit to run a children's playground game never mind a professional game.😠

I think that you are possibly being a little harsh on the EFL here and I'm not sure that they should be blamed just because one team might happen to have an advantage over another in a certain situation.

How exactly do we think that the rules should be changed ?

Please don't get me wrong, not for a second am I suggesting that the current rules are perfect but I'm struggling to think that the rules could be changed in such a way that would ensure all clubs would be happy in all situations.
 
Obviously they don't want it off, we wouldn't either, I don't want it cancelled anyway, if we can put a team out then get it on, they might surprise us.

I'd agree with that except I'd be happy for us to pull strokes - or at least try to - if we are of the opinion that we'd better off playing the game at another time.

I certainly admire your "get on with it spirit" but I'm not sure that other sides - sides that we are competing against - would do the same when in the same position.
 
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I think that you are possibly being a little harsh on the EFL here and I'm not sure that they should be blamed just because one team might happen to have an advantage over another in a certain situation.

How exactly do we think that the rules should be changed ?

Please don't get me wrong, not for a second am I suggesting that the current rules are perfect but I'm struggling to think that the rules could be changed in such a way that would ensure all clubs would be happy in all situations.
I've taken this from another thread on here, which shows what Wimbledon think of the situation. My solution is as on some of the above threads, cancel all games until the peak of the pandemic is over and then re-arrange the fixtures. As for the one goalkeeper ! I'm sure I don't need to say much more.


Today we should have been playing Charlton in an exciting London derby everyone was looking forward to.
Eight days earlier we should have welcomed Portsmouth to The Cherry Red Records Stadium for another cracking League One encounter.

Instead both games were cancelled by the EFL because both visiting clubs were struck by Covid and couldn’t field enough first-team players.

The pandemic certainly takes no prisoners but ever since it struck we have taken exhaustive measures to protect our players and ensure we were always able to field a starting X1.

We have managed to do that on a fraction of the resources enjoyed by many of the teams in our division - and yet now we are left with cancelled games and fixture chaos. Which puts greater strain on our already depleted squad.

As a result of this we have sent a strongly-worded letter to the EFL spelling out how we feel - and calling on them, as our governing body, to take a much stronger stance going forward.

This is the letter we sent (sent by e-mail only):

EFL House,
10-12 West Cliff
Preston,
PR1 8HU
Friday 24th December 2021
Dear all,
Re. Response to Postponed Fixtures
We are writing to openly express our disappointment over the recent spate of matches that member clubs have been unable to fulfil.
We also want to take this opportunity to call on the EFL to undertake its due processes and implement the strongest-possible measures to ensure that - where a club is able to fulfil a fixture - it does so.
Further, where it is found that a club was unable to fulfil a fixture, they must be held to account for all decisions which led to that position.
We would also like to advocate for the reintroduction of 5 substitutions per match. With a congested fixture calendar now a guarantee for all clubs, we would wish to have every tool available to us in order to manage our squad best.
At the point of writing, six of the 10 fixtures on EFL League One’s Boxing Day schedule cannot be fulfilled. On the weekend of the 18th December, six of the 12 scheduled matches did not go ahead, again because the matches could not be fulfilled.
AFC Wimbledon has one of the smallest playing budgets in the league and alongside this, one of the smallest first-team playing squads. The club is a London club, where Coronavirus has been most rife. A State of Emergency has been declared by the Mayor of London. Yet since the new Omicrom variant became prevalent, only 11 cases of Coronavirus have been recorded in our playing squad and first-team management (of which only three have been in our player and staff first-team bubble).
This is not by luck. This is down to hard work and spending resources our club ultimately does not have at its disposal.
This is the players sacrificing their ability to spend time with their loved ones. Christmas gatherings have been cancelled and everyone at the club has played their part; the players have to be truly commended for their commitment.
At significant cost, we have tested players twice weekly since the beginning of the season. In the weeks before the Red Zone protocols were brought into effect, we upped this to three tests per week.
We then moved to Red Zone protocols with daily testing in the week before the EFL’s announcement of such measures.
The club has isolated individuals and chosen not to select players for match-day squads. We have taken some very difficult decisions to manage our squad, which most likely led to a loss of on-field competitiveness.
Training has been impacted by the immediate removal or our U23 and loan players from our training group (due to the likelihood of exposure to Covid-19 at their non-league loan clubs).
If we can make all this work - on such limited resources - then so should the rest.
AFC Wimbledon understands that we are not alone in undertaking these measures and acknowledges some clubs may well have gone further.
However, we can’t help feeling the preventative measures taken by the club ultimately cost us a competitive edge on the pitch earlier in the season. Yet now, when our measures are truly coming into their own, we have been hit financially with the postponement of our two-largest revenued fixtures of the season.
Whilst acknowledging that two further dates have been created in the fixture list (with the removal of Emirates FA Cup Replay dates in Rounds 3 and 4), no team would enter this competition with the hope of getting a replay.
You play to win first time around, thus giving entrance into the next round and alleviating potential fixture congestion. We will now be forced into playing these matches, at a rapid turnaround, which will have a serious effect on the players’ physical and mental welfare.
It just doesn’t sit right that, having gone above and beyond our means to ensure matches can be fulfilled, we will now be at a disadvantage - trying to navigate a very congested second half of the season with a small squad.
Meanwhile, clubs with larger squads will have the upper hand, having been provided the opportunity to take a more relaxed approach knowing there will be no penalties for conduct that sits outside of the protocols.
Kind regards,
Joe Palmer
Chief Executive Officer

SUMS THE WHOLE THING UP NICELY.
 
It's all getting on my tits now I'm not renewing my season tickets I'm sick of hearing about it either play on or end the season wtf is corona going to do to these young fit lads? Everyone who wanted a jab has had one get on with it!
 
Don’t know how true it is but just been reading on the Boro board that we are Covid testing again this morning in the hope of finding another positive test so the game can be called off.

Boro did their last ones yesterday.

Watch this space.

Don’t shot the messenger.
 
I’m NFL they’ve managed to continue all the games and if a team has to field a load of reserves or even sign a free transfer for a squad filler, then so be it.

Teams have a responsibility to put a team out, plus control the environment that players and staff operate in.
 
I'd agree with that except I'd be happy for us to pull strokes - or at least try to - if we are of the opinion that we'd better off playing the game at another time.

I certainly admire your "get on with it spirit" but I'm not sure that other sides - sides that we are competing against - would do the same when in the same position.
We also don't know how much a fixture congestion will effect us later on anyway or who would/wouldn't be fit then.
 
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I've taken this from another thread on here, which shows what Wimbledon think of the situation. My solution is as on some of the above threads, cancel all games until the peak of the pandemic is over and then re-arrange the fixtures. As for the one goalkeeper ! I'm sure I don't need to say much more.


Today we should have been playing Charlton in an exciting London derby everyone was looking forward to.
Eight days earlier we should have welcomed Portsmouth to The Cherry Red Records Stadium for another cracking League One encounter.

Instead both games were cancelled by the EFL because both visiting clubs were struck by Covid and couldn’t field enough first-team players.

The pandemic certainly takes no prisoners but ever since it struck we have taken exhaustive measures to protect our players and ensure we were always able to field a starting X1.

We have managed to do that on a fraction of the resources enjoyed by many of the teams in our division - and yet now we are left with cancelled games and fixture chaos. Which puts greater strain on our already depleted squad.

As a result of this we have sent a strongly-worded letter to the EFL spelling out how we feel - and calling on them, as our governing body, to take a much stronger stance going forward.

This is the letter we sent (sent by e-mail only):

EFL House,
10-12 West Cliff
Preston,
PR1 8HU
Friday 24th December 2021
Dear all,
Re. Response to Postponed Fixtures
We are writing to openly express our disappointment over the recent spate of matches that member clubs have been unable to fulfil.
We also want to take this opportunity to call on the EFL to undertake its due processes and implement the strongest-possible measures to ensure that - where a club is able to fulfil a fixture - it does so.
Further, where it is found that a club was unable to fulfil a fixture, they must be held to account for all decisions which led to that position.
We would also like to advocate for the reintroduction of 5 substitutions per match. With a congested fixture calendar now a guarantee for all clubs, we would wish to have every tool available to us in order to manage our squad best.
At the point of writing, six of the 10 fixtures on EFL League One’s Boxing Day schedule cannot be fulfilled. On the weekend of the 18th December, six of the 12 scheduled matches did not go ahead, again because the matches could not be fulfilled.
AFC Wimbledon has one of the smallest playing budgets in the league and alongside this, one of the smallest first-team playing squads. The club is a London club, where Coronavirus has been most rife. A State of Emergency has been declared by the Mayor of London. Yet since the new Omicrom variant became prevalent, only 11 cases of Coronavirus have been recorded in our playing squad and first-team management (of which only three have been in our player and staff first-team bubble).
This is not by luck. This is down to hard work and spending resources our club ultimately does not have at its disposal.
This is the players sacrificing their ability to spend time with their loved ones. Christmas gatherings have been cancelled and everyone at the club has played their part; the players have to be truly commended for their commitment.
At significant cost, we have tested players twice weekly since the beginning of the season. In the weeks before the Red Zone protocols were brought into effect, we upped this to three tests per week.
We then moved to Red Zone protocols with daily testing in the week before the EFL’s announcement of such measures.
The club has isolated individuals and chosen not to select players for match-day squads. We have taken some very difficult decisions to manage our squad, which most likely led to a loss of on-field competitiveness.
Training has been impacted by the immediate removal or our U23 and loan players from our training group (due to the likelihood of exposure to Covid-19 at their non-league loan clubs).
If we can make all this work - on such limited resources - then so should the rest.
AFC Wimbledon understands that we are not alone in undertaking these measures and acknowledges some clubs may well have gone further.
However, we can’t help feeling the preventative measures taken by the club ultimately cost us a competitive edge on the pitch earlier in the season. Yet now, when our measures are truly coming into their own, we have been hit financially with the postponement of our two-largest revenued fixtures of the season.
Whilst acknowledging that two further dates have been created in the fixture list (with the removal of Emirates FA Cup Replay dates in Rounds 3 and 4), no team would enter this competition with the hope of getting a replay.
You play to win first time around, thus giving entrance into the next round and alleviating potential fixture congestion. We will now be forced into playing these matches, at a rapid turnaround, which will have a serious effect on the players’ physical and mental welfare.
It just doesn’t sit right that, having gone above and beyond our means to ensure matches can be fulfilled, we will now be at a disadvantage - trying to navigate a very congested second half of the season with a small squad.
Meanwhile, clubs with larger squads will have the upper hand, having been provided the opportunity to take a more relaxed approach knowing there will be no penalties for conduct that sits outside of the protocols.
Kind regards,
Joe Palmer
Chief Executive Officer

SUMS THE WHOLE THING UP NICELY.


Thanks for that Curry.

Your suggestion to cancel all games until the peak of the pandemic has been reached and then rearrange the fixtures is definitely an option but we are currently unable to identify this peak and cancelling all the fixtures would bring about all sorts of other problems

Again, please don't get me wrong, I am certainly not ridiculing your suggestion, the latest outbreak has clearly reduced the number of players available to teams and created other problems and I'm sure plenty will agree with your suggestion but I'm not sure where exactly we draw the line.
 
I’m NFL they’ve managed to continue all the games and if a team has to field a load of reserves or even sign a free transfer for a squad filler, then so be it.

Teams have a responsibility to put a team out, plus control the environment that players and staff operate in.
Much less (in fact none) opportunity for the NFL to fit cancelled games in though.
 
Interestingly clubs seem to find a whole new team when it’s the league cup.especially in the prem. Where does it end, are we to carry on cancelling games throughout the season or is it just a convenient Xmas spike in cases ? COVID IS NOT GOING AWAY.
 
We also don't know how much a fixture congestion will effect us later on anyway or who would/wouldn't be fit then.

No doubt Lytham but we can make a decision based on everything we know now and take what we believe to be the best decision in the interest of the club.

Again, I certainly like your "get on with it" attitude but I'm not confident that this would be replicated by our competitors.

Can I also add that I don't know exactly how bad things are for us and I'm definitely not saying that we need to cancel, I'm just saying that we need to evaluate the situation and take the best decision in the interest of the club.
 
It's all getting on my tits now I'm not renewing my season tickets I'm sick of hearing about it either play on or end the season wtf is corona going to do to these young fit lads? Everyone who wanted a jab has had one get on with it!

I'm not arguing with anything you say tomo but are you suggesting that teams just get on with things regardless of the number of positive cases or that players who have tested positive should be allowed to play ?

Apologies if you are not suggesting any of the above.
 
Don’t know how true it is but just been reading on the Boro board that we are Covid testing again this morning in the hope of finding another positive test so the game can be called off.

Boro did their last ones yesterday.

Watch this space.

Don’t shot the messenger.
So they reckon Blackpool Football Club actually hope one or more of it's players has contracted covid ? Astonishing.
 
Desperate fans, they are on a great run and obviously want to add us to the list of casualties while we’re at a disadvantage. No surprise really.
 
The Cup argument is a really good one. The authorities should send the clubs a list of the 18 they picked for games in both cup competitions and ask if these players are available or have COVID.
 
It's all getting on my tits now I'm not renewing my season tickets I'm sick of hearing about it either play on or end the season wtf is corona going to do to these young fit lads? Everyone who wanted a jab has had one get on with it!
Great, you're punishing the club for something completely out of their control?
 
Tbh, I don’t get it, I would guess that most of these players who have tested positive, don’t have any symptoms. So the argument is they could pass it on to others. Apart from their own teammates who they’ve been close to anyway, the only other people they’ll come into contact with are the opposition players and that’s on the pitch in the open air, not sat in a pub for two hours.
 
They are being a bit ridiculous IMO, behaving like entitled children. We as a club have clearly taken a play if at all possible approach. IF it’s off it would be because we can’t field a team. They have no right to demand we field u12’s so that they can collect their 3 points and move on.
 
I've never seen a set of fans (PNE aside) that have whinged so much prior to a game about something that hasn't happened. And the notion that we're trying to get the game called off is a Boro fabrication - all we've said is that we're stretched. That's it. Against Hudders we still had many long term injuries along with covid cases but still played.

I'm not sure I agree with it being a good thing if the game were to be postponed anyway. There's no guarantee we would be in a stronger position when it's played, or that Boro would be weaker. What if they go out and make three or four cracking signings in January? I'd rather avoid a backlog of fixtures towards the end. Games in hand rarely work to our advantage.
 
I've never seen a set of fans (PNE aside) that have whinged so much prior to a game about something that hasn't happened. And the notion that we're trying to get the game called off is a Boro fabrication - all we've said is that we're stretched. That's it. Against Hudders we still had many long term injuries along with covid cases but still played.

I'm not sure I agree with it being a good thing if the game were to be postponed anyway. There's no guarantee we would be in a stronger position when it's played, or that Boro would be weaker. What if they go out and make three or four cracking signings in January? I'd rather avoid a backlog of fixtures towards the end. Games in hand rarely work to our advantage.
I agree get it played last thing you want is a fixture back log at the end of the season far better leaving some midweeks free to recharge the batteries.
 
I've never seen a set of fans (PNE aside) that have whinged so much prior to a game about something that hasn't happened. And the notion that we're trying to get the game called off is a Boro fabrication - all we've said is that we're stretched. That's it. Against Hudders we still had many long term injuries along with covid cases but still played.

I'm not sure I agree with it being a good thing if the game were to be postponed anyway. There's no guarantee we would be in a stronger position when it's played, or that Boro would be weaker. What if they go out and make three or four cracking signings in January? I'd rather avoid a backlog of fixtures towards the end. Games in hand rarely work to our advantage.
Agree. It's amazing that Boro fans have access to information about our players that we don't.
 
Just had a look on the Boro board and can’t believe the conspiracy bollocks thats been spouted on there about how we’re trying to get the game called off, really is pathetic!
 
Just had a look on the Boro board and can’t believe the conspiracy bollocks thats been spouted on there about how we’re trying to get the game called off, really is pathetic!
They seem to think think they’re coming over to Blackpool to walk all over us and leave with 3 points. Seem to forget we beat them at the Riverside (with a depleted squad even then) and spent the last 12 months getting promoted whilst having to chop and change teams due to injuries.

Really hope the game goes ahead and we beat them. Boro seem to think they’re Liverpool these last few days.
 
They seem to think think they’re coming over to Blackpool to walk all over us and leave with 3 points. Seem to forget we beat them at the Riverside (with a depleted squad even then) and spent the last 12 months getting promoted whilst having to chop and change teams due to injuries.

Really hope the game goes ahead and we beat them. Boro seem to think they’re Liverpool these last few days.
Delusions of Grandeur me thinks!
 
Latest bollocks on the Boro board is that someone has heard from a Blackpool player that they are due to have Covid tests at 3pm, you really couldn’t fuckin make this up could you? I won’t even ask if someone on this board has heard this rumour to avoid insulting their intelligence!
 
Some of their comments are pathetic. Think Gaz who posts on here need to have a word. It's not just the odd knobhead.
 
Having read through thier post. I hope we absolutely batter them and send all 3500 of them back to Durham wishing the game was cancelled
 
As I posted before, on December 21st boro were due to play Blackburn, they failed to field a team because they said flu had wiped out there squad! We are now in unprecedented times with a world wide epidemic and they are wining about a game not even called off yet ! F@ck off boro
 
Great, you're punishing the club for something completely out of their control?
No it’ll probably end up costing me more I’ll still attend but I’m not committing to a season ticket when Saturday games get cancelled then rearranged for midweek. Every home game is a 200 mile round trip for me. They’ll be a new variant out next season does my head in.
 
I'm not arguing with anything you say tomo but are you suggesting that teams just get on with things regardless of the number of positive cases or that players who have tested positive should be allowed to play ?

Apologies if you are not suggesting any of the above.
Yes I’m suggesting playing on even if the entire squad was positive. Are these tests observed by the EFL because if they are not the first person that tested negative I’d get him to do the whole squads tests send them back and get on with it.
 
Yes I’m suggesting playing on even if the entire squad was positive. Are these tests observed by the EFL because if they are not the first person that tested negative I’d get him to do the whole squads tests send them back and get on with it.

I've got no problem with any of that tomo but I think you'll struggle to get it past many on here.

For some reason, people just can't accept that the virus does not seriously effect the young and healthy.
 
I don't understand the EFL, not for the first time, saying that so long as a team have14 fit players including a goalkeeper the game should go on. My worry is that with 14 fit players you only have 3 subs which does not include a goalkeeper, so no replacement for him, and if, as happened at Huddersfield, there is a concussion substitution to the opposing team, the team with 14 players is only able to make three substitutions to the oppositions four.

Add to this the case of games like Hull v Sheff Utd which has been called off, it gives the team playing once a week a distinct advantage over the team they will be playing, in this case, Blackpool, who have played three games in 7 days.

It looks like another complete and utter case of fuckwittery from the EFL , who are not fit to run a children's playground game never mind a professional game.😠
Wilf, it is swings and roundabouts mate.
The teams that are postponing matches will have to play catch up at some point so they will be playing 3 games a week and when it gets towards the end of the season it cold severely impact on their chances.
Look at Burnley, 4 games adrift of quite a few teams already and as one of the weaker teams in the Premiership they really will struggle.
Personally I would rather continue as we are and get the games played.
 
I've got no problem with any of that tomo but I think you'll struggle to get it past many on here.

For some reason, people just can't accept that the virus does not seriously effect the young and healthy.
Because we know people in their 20s and 30s who have died of it.
 
Because we know people in their 20s and 30s who have died of it.


Wiz

It's a sad fact of life that some people die in their 20s and 30s - and some don't even reach their 20s - from a variety of reasons.

We lose young and healthy people in road tragic accidents all the time and in 2021 in the UK more young and healthy people lost their lives from drowning than from Covid.

That is not to say that I don't believe that Covid exists or that I don't sympathise with the young and healthy people who have lost their lives as a result of Covid but we can't allow the sensitive fact that a very small number of young and healthy people have died from Covid dictate matters just like when a young and healthy person is tragically killed in a road traffic accident, we don't all walk to work the next day.

Basically all that I am saying is that the huge majority of Covid deaths in the UK are among the old or the vulnerable and that you know of deaths among the young and healthy doesn't change anything.

The average age of Covid fatalities in the UK is over 82 and that is a FACT.
 
Wiz

It's a sad fact of life that some people die in their 20s and 30s - and some don't even reach their 20s - from a variety of reasons.

We lose young and healthy people in road tragic accidents all the time and in 2021 in the UK more young and healthy people lost their lives from drowning than from Covid.

That is not to say that I don't believe that Covid exists or that I don't sympathise with the young and healthy people who have lost their lives as a result of Covid but we can't allow the sensitive fact that a very small number of young and healthy people have died from Covid dictate matters just like when a young and healthy person is tragically killed in a road traffic accident, we don't all walk to work the next day.

Basically all that I am saying is that the huge majority of Covid deaths in the UK are among the old or the vulnerable and that you know of deaths among the young and healthy doesn't change anything.

The average age of Covid fatalities in the UK is over 82 and that is a FACT.
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