Who starts next saturday and system

Critchley has always played 433/4231 in the past, so wild guess:

Grimshaw
Lyons, Eki, Penny, Hubby
Norburn, Trybull, Carey
Dale, Lavery, CJ

which could also be a 3-5-2 with Lyons and CJ as wing backs.
 
Assuming Joseph isn't fit and nobody else signs or leaves

Grimshaw
Ekpiteta Pennington Husband
Lyons Trybull Morgan Norburn Hamilton
Carey
Lavery

O'Driscoll Connolly Thompson Dougall Dale Apter Beesley

The left side is an area for concern if we have to do a lot of defending and there isn't an obvious game changing attacking threat off the bench but I think it's the best we can put out there.
 
At home in matches we are expected to do the majority of the attaciking I think it will be 1 cdm similar to yesterday. I think he'd rather have Norburn sitting behind Carey and Morgan, over Norburn and Trybull sitting behind Carey or Morgan. Wing backs are the hardest to call imo. CJ, for me, has played himself into next Saturday's XI, but I have an (unfounded) suspicion that he will go for Thompson over Lyons.
Also, I think Dale's cameo yesterday, I'd play him. I want to like Beesley, but I not seen anything yet in the last 2 games to think he should start.
 
I suspect the team will be:

----------------Grimshaw------------------
------Ekpiteta Pennington Husband------
Lyons-----------Norburn--------------CJ
--------Carey--------------Morgan--------
--------------Beesley Lavery---------------

I could see Joseph coming in to the side quite quickly if he becomes available. I still think at some point in the season we'll switch to four at the back - it's where Critchley had his success with us in league one last time. But he's right to start off like this because it's the system our current squad suits, and we simply don't have the players for a four at the back system at the moment. But I can see us signing a couple of wingers before the transfer window closes.
The above team really ought to be top six if playing at full potential and with confidence.
 
Grimshaw

Lyons

Marv
Pennington
Connolly

CJ


Norburn
Trybull
Carey

Lavery
Dale


O’Donnell
Husband
Thompson
Dougall
Morgan
Apter
Beesley
 
I'm a bit concerned that Critch did some weird shit yesterday like start without Lyons and Trybull and stuck Connolly in the LWB position. And he seems to be struggling to accept that his purchase of Beesley was poor judgement. Im sure Bees will improve if he stays fit but not as much as he probably needs to.

We look pretty solid defensively (apart from a relative weakness on the left) and in central midfield, but going forwards we are currently heavily reliant on Lavery. Jury is out on the rest. Not sure Morgan is good enough. I think we are probably top 6 because of our organisation and defensive strength but not top two until we strengthen up front more.

Get Lyons and Trybull in the team, sort the LWB position, sign a striker. For starters.
 
gjr said:
Assuming Joseph isn't fit and nobody else signs or leaves

Grimshaw
Ekpiteta Pennington Husband
Lyons Trybull Morgan Norburn Hamilton
Carey
Lavery

O'Driscoll Connolly Thompson Dougall Dale Apter Beesley

The left side is an area for concern if we have to do a lot of defending and there isn't an obvious game changing attacking threat off the bench but I think it's the best we can put out there.
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That's what I'd pick aswell.
 
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Watching the game on Saturday, we passed the ball quite well but when we played it long it did'nt stick enough for me. Until we get
the elusive striker who can hold turn and link play more consitently, if thats going to be Joseph all well and good otherwise we aint got one.
PS Oakley Boothe could turn out to be a find.
 
I think shoe-ins are Grimshaw, Marvin, Pennington, Hubby, Norburn and Lavery. Don't think he will play 2 defensive DMs so Trybull (who would be a starter at most L1 clubs will miss out). Wing-backs are a question mark - I'd go for Lyons and CJ but wouldn't be surprised to see Thompson and CJ. Think Carey and Morgan will complete the mid-field. I can see Dale being prefered starter to partner Lavery.
 
Grimshaw
Lyons Penny Ekpiteta Hubby Thompson
Trybull Norburn
Carey
Lavery Beesley
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Once Joseph returns from injury, I'd play him over Beesley.

Lyons and Thompson will both benefit from playing the wing back role. We also have some strong back-up in Dougall, Morgan, Connolly, CJ and Dale
 
It doesn't matter who will start as they are all playing the same way according to Critchley . I am sure he will pick who he thinks is the best choice for that day ,no matter what anyone says on here . The one thing I am hoping for is that we don't play as much passing the ball around at the back like he did last time he was in charge.

We all pay for entertainment value and not watching half the game being played between defenders and goal keeper. Plus the fact that its only teams like Man City and Liverpool that can do it without making too many cockups . Even Burnley gave us a goal last season through this defensive passing game.
 
WIZARD OF TANGERINE said:
It doesn't matter who will start as they are all playing the same way according to Critchley . I am sure he will pick who he thinks is the best choice for that day ,no matter what anyone says on here . The one thing I am hoping for is that we don't play as much passing the ball around at the back like he did last time he was in charge.

We all pay for entertainment value and not watching half the game being played between defenders and goal keeper. Plus the fact that its only teams like Man City and Liverpool that can do it without making too many cockups . Even Burnley gave us a goal last season through this defensive passing game.
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We did it well under Critchley. We didnt make cock ups like Burnley did against us. Burnley started last season making mistakes at the back, very young central defence and the goalie Muric was pretty shaky with his feet.

Which doesnt mean to say i want to watch us passing it around in our own half for long periods. Its nice to have some control in games though rather than watching us lose the ball over and over again.
 
voyeur said:
We did it well under Critchley. We didnt make cock ups like Burnley did against us. Burnley started last season making mistakes at the back, very young central defence and the goalie Muric was pretty shaky with his feet.

Which doesnt mean to say i want to watch us passing it around in our own half for long periods. Its nice to have some control in games though rather than watching us lose the ball over and over again.
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I am pretty sure we did cock up on many occasion . Luckily it did not lead to goals.
 
WIZARD OF TANGERINE said:
It doesn't matter who will start as they are all playing the same way according to Critchley . I am sure he will pick who he thinks is the best choice for that day ,no matter what anyone says on here . The one thing I am hoping for is that we don't play as much passing the ball around at the back like he did last time he was in charge.

We all pay for entertainment value and not watching half the game being played between defenders and goal keeper. Plus the fact that its only teams like Man City and Liverpool that can do it without making too many cockups . Even Burnley gave us a goal last season through this defensive passing game.
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Yes, please, please let’s not have that passing around the back for five minutes, only to end up hoofing it up field.
 
Am just hoping if we are going to bring anyone in it's today or tomorrow so at least they can spend time with the squad and understand what it is Critch is after. From his interviews, it does sound like anyone coming in will be playing a massive game of catch up to understand his system.
 
Poolfan2 said:
Am just hoping if we are going to bring anyone in it's today or tomorrow so at least they can spend time with the squad and understand what it is Critch is after. From his interviews, it does sound like anyone coming in will be playing a massive game of catch up to understand his system.
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Nobody arriving this week will start on Saturday.
 
ItsGrimUpNorth said:
Surely there is no competition between Lyons and CJ?
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CJ has started last two friendlies and at Morecambe was very good where as Lyons pre season hasn't offered much.

Do I think Lyons is a better player 💯 but if Critch is seeing what I've seen live CJ starts.
I'd be tempted to put Lyons out left which he can play until hothead Thompson learns to chill.
 
Grimshaw
Pennington ekpiteta husband
Cj lyons norburn Trybull carey
Lavery beesley( Joseph)
Subs
O’Donnell
Connolly Casey Morgan dale apter the trialist that played Saturday
If nobody else comes in before Saturday
 
WIZARD OF TANGERINE said:
It doesn't matter who will start as they are all playing the same way according to Critchley . I am sure he will pick who he thinks is the best choice for that day ,no matter what anyone says on here . The one thing I am hoping for is that we don't play as much passing the ball around at the back like he did last time he was in charge.

We all pay for entertainment value and not watching half the game being played between defenders and goal keeper. Plus the fact that its only teams like Man City and Liverpool that can do it without making too many cockups . Even Burnley gave us a goal last season through this defensive passing game.
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Big Mick didn’t go for all that passing around at the back bollocks……..🤔
 
Bloody hell - lots of votes for CJ. I'd sooner see DT wide left as at least he has a little bite as well as pace. Good player waiting to get out IMO. Lyons surely the right back or right wing-back.
 
Grimshaw
Pennington Ekpiteta Husband
Lyons Norburn Morgan Carey CJ
Lavery Beesley
Subs O’Donnell Connolly Thompson Trybull Dougall Apter Dale
Whatever the starting line up options from the bench look strong enough for Critch to make some effective changes. 5 again I think.
 
…………………..Grimshaw

……….. Pennington Marv Husband

Lyons……………………………….Thompson

…………Carey Norburn Trybull

……………………Dale

…………………...Lavery
 
gjr said:
Assuming Joseph isn't fit and nobody else signs or leaves

Grimshaw
Ekpiteta Pennington Husband
Lyons Trybull Morgan Norburn Hamilton
Carey
Lavery

O'Driscoll Connolly Thompson Dougall Dale Apter Beesley

The left side is an area for concern if we have to do a lot of defending and there isn't an obvious game changing attacking threat off the bench but I think it's the best we can put out there.
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Depends whether Burton are tall of stature. If we could benefit from some height up front then expect Beesley to start.
 
Hope for:

Grimshaw

Pennington Ekpiteta Husband

Lyons Norburn Trybull Morgan CJ

Dale Lavery

I'd equally be fine with Connolly for Husband, Thompson for CJ, Carey for Morgan and Beesley for Dale if we want to go two up top.

Guessing:

Grimshaw

Pennington Ekpiteta Husband

CJ Dougall Norburn Morgan Connolly

Dale Lavery

I hope I'm wrong but I can see Critch crowbarring Connolly in there as he "trusts him to do a job". I also think Dougall will start over Trybull and won't be too bothered if he does as I love Ken.
 
Grayth said:
Hope for:

Grimshaw

Pennington Ekpiteta Husband

Lyons Norburn Trybull Morgan CJ

Dale Lavery

I'd equally be fine with Connolly for Husband, Thompson for CJ, Carey for Morgan and Beesley for Dale if we want to go two up top.

Guessing:

Grimshaw

Pennington Ekpiteta Husband

CJ Dougall Norburn Morgan Connolly

Dale Lavery

I hope I'm wrong but I can see Critch crowbarring Connolly in there as he "trusts him to do a job". I also think Dougall will start over Trybull and won't be too bothered if he does as I love Ken.
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When you actually try and pick a team it’s not so easy😂
I’d want Lyons and Trybull in the team, up front I’m struggling. Lavery obviously has to play but who’s the 2nd striker.

Grimshaw
Lyons Pennington Ekpiteta Husband
Hamilton Norbury Trybull Morgan
Carey
Lavery
 
gjr said:
The left side is an area for concern if we have to do a lot of defending and there isn't an obvious game changing attacking threat off the bench but I think it's the best we can put out there
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It is my concern that from the start we have an Achilles heel.
 
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We know (we think!!) it's 5-3-2 which looks bewildering given our plethora of midfielders so my guess is assuming Joseph is out

GRIMSHAW THE GOALKEEPER
Pennington,Marv Husband
Lyons CJ
Norburn, Trybull Morgan
Lavery, Carey

Subs O'Donnell, Dougall, Dale Beesley, Thompson, Connolly, Virtue/Apter

I really hate 5-3-2
Edited to add the technicality of having no goalkeeper originally!
 
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bill40 said:
We know (we think!!) it's 5-3-2 which looks bewildering given our plethora of midfielders so my guess is assuming Joseph is out
Pennington,Marv Husband
Lyons CJ
Norburn, Trybull Morgan
Lavery, Carey

Subs O'Donnell, Dougall, Dale Beesley, Thompson, Connolly, Virtue/Apter

I really hate 5-3-2
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We know we've played that way in pre-season, but is that down to a lack of options in the wide areas? If Banks arrives, and with Joseph available, that situation might change.
 
bill40 said:
We know (we think!!) it's 5-3-2 which looks bewildering given our plethora of midfielders so my guess is assuming Joseph is out
Pennington,Marv Husband
Lyons CJ
Norburn, Trybull Morgan
Lavery, Carey

Subs O'Donnell, Dougall, Dale Beesley, Thompson, Connolly, Virtue/Apter

I really hate 5-3-2
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I really hope we play a goalkeeper too even if he doesn’t have much to do…
 
bill40 said:
We know (we think!!) it's 5-3-2 which looks bewildering given our plethora of midfielders so my guess is assuming Joseph is out

GRIMSHAW THE GOALKEEPER
Pennington,Marv Husband
Lyons CJ
Norburn, Trybull Morgan
Lavery, Carey

Subs O'Donnell, Dougall, Dale Beesley, Thompson, Connolly, Virtue/Apter

I really hate 5-3-2
Edited to add the technicality of having no goalkeeper originally!
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Why is is 5-3-2 or 3-5-2 (same thing with wing backs) bewildering given our midfielders?

the 3 in either of those formations give us more bodies in the middle of the park (and that’s where our strongest midfielders play) than a 4-4-2 and the same as a 4-5-1?

I think it’s the perfect formation for our squad.
 
Tangerine_Dream said:
Why is is 5-3-2 or 3-5-2 (same thing with wing backs) bewildering given our midfielders?

the 3 in either of those formations give us more bodies in the middle of the park (and that’s where our strongest midfielders play) than a 4-4-2 and the same as a 4-5-1?

I think it’s the perfect formation for our squad.
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I have Norburn (CM) playing on the right, Carey as a striker, he's a 10 if anything and CJ as a wing back which he isn't and just two specialist widemen. I know there's more to come in yet but the team I picked isn't really balanced and neither is the squad yet.
 
Be interesting but no sign of NC playing both Norburn and Trybul, which I think will be a mistake, not that hopefully I will be happy come 1400 when the team is announced
 
Tangerine_Dream said:
Why is is 5-3-2 or 3-5-2 (same thing with wing backs) bewildering given our midfielders?

the 3 in either of those formations give us more bodies in the middle of the park (and that’s where our strongest midfielders play) than a 4-4-2 and the same as a 4-5-1?

I think it’s the perfect formation for our squad.
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4-5-1 leaves the same problem who is the right winger|?
 
bill40 said:
4-5-1 leaves the same problem who is the winger|?
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We don’t need wingers in a 3-5-2/5-3-2.

If CJ starts a competitive game at LWB then I will start to worry about Critchley, the lad is somehow worse at defending than he is going forward!
 
Love all these teams ,great but what I love more is that we HAVE a system, so win ,lose or draw , I can’t wait for Critch2
 
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