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BFC89

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It’s one thing signing 17 players, but did we really need that big of a overhaul on the squad ?

I mean who the hells ships out their best player from last season who makes team of year and also doesn’t want to keep one of the divisions top scorers ? This team had a decent spine last season and it got ripped apart by Mansford an the recruitment team as Sadler has give them full power ! 5, 6 signings max is what was required not dismantling a team that wasn’t a million miles away an beat a few of top 6 teams last season !
 
BFC89 said:
It’s one thing signing 17 players, but did we really need that big of a overhaul on the squad ?

I mean who the hells ships out their best player from last season who makes team of year and also doesn’t want to keep one of the divisions top scorers ? This team had a decent spine last season and it got ripped apart by Mansford an the recruitment team as Sadler has give them full power ! 5, 6 signings max is what was required not dismantling a team that wasn’t a million miles away an beat a few of top 6 teams last season !
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Hindsight. Apparently on the politics thread you can't use it. Does it apply on this one too?

Even then, I'm not sure the premise holds up anyway.
 
I'll play devils advocate and disagree, in the majority of cases I can see exactly why they have been brought into the club. It was the fact these haven't been balanced out with known forces in this division. MJ has been OK but he is hardly pulling up trees. Sarkic has been a massive let down, I'm not seeing anything that warrants a place on the bench, let alone a start. Garbutt and Woodburn may well turn into great signings but have been brought in to a side losing and lacking confidence.

Mitchell has been disastrous defensively and has been exposed badly when Kaikai is in front of him.

Marv was improving but went back to looking shaky again yesterday.

Robson is a decent player but needs to control his aggression and work on his set piece delivery.

Anderson & Yates link well but neither seems to do anything without the other. All their confidence and swagger has gone.

Lubala feels like a YouTube signing, he came with glowing reviews but just looks way out of his depth.

CJ easily the best of the bunch so far. OK he needs to improve his final ball/finishing but his pace is a massive weapon in our powder puff attack.
 
It's the lack of quality Critchley has signed allied to his naivety at this level that's the problem. The club is a shambles from top to bottom. Sadler has been badly let down by Mansford, Johnson and Critchley. I can see Sadler looking for a way out at some point. This is expensive failure for him.
 
I would agree that there wasn't any complaints about the signings but questions were definitely raised about the extent of the overhaul we were doing.

The concerns raised seem to be coming to fruition, it seems we're still in preseason at times with the changes in the match day squad each week. It also binds Sadler's hands now, he surely has to give Critchley more time considering he has given him the freedom to bring almost an entirely new squad in - especially after he sacked Grayson after a busy January window (not that I think he should sack him right now).
 
Willie Mcgrotty said:
Gnadulleit was never staying.
Decent spine?
I know it's not working at the moment please don't kid yourself those that were shown the door were pulling up any trees.
Feeney had one good season, constantly given the ball to put in the box. Only ever scored one goal for us.
Spearing, no thanks.
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Money talks, an we seem to have plenty for this level, surely more could of been done to keep him ? If Feeney wasn’t 33 championship clubs would of been all over him in them stats.
spearing walks in the team now, there’s no leader in this team at all and we are missing him massively.
Tilt, Heneghan and Alnick all walk in this side aswell !
 
62years&counting said:
It's the lack of quality Critchley has signed allied to his naivety at this level that's the problem. The club is a shambles from top to bottom. Sadler has been badly let down by Mansford, Johnson and Critchley. I can see Sadler looking for a way out at some point. This is expensive failure for him.
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I really cannot support such a sweeping statement with little insight as to what is happening behind closed doors. Yes, the match results are much poorer than we expected and, since that’s the reason for existence, they are important. But to say that the “club is a shambles from top to bottom”? “Sadler looking for a way out”? You don’t know that. A guess based on dire negativity.
 
i think weve signed some good players if you sign 17 players and twelve turn out to be good signings thats a good ratio the balance at the moment isnt right it may take another couple of transfer windows to get it right will critch get that long im not sure its a bit of stick or twist.
 
It’s all about opinions though isn’t it, Spearings legs had gone for me, gnando was an enigma and could be unplayable on his day and utter gash the next game, Feeney was a bit of one trick pony provided gnando could be bothered and as much as I liked Benhenegan he was as slow as a tractor. That I’m afraid was your spine and I’m pretty sure NC knows they wouldn’t have a clue how to play the system he wanted. Hence he’s ripped it up and started again.
only time will tell if he’s right or wrong Provided he is given it.
 
Archibald Knox said:
I really cannot support such a sweeping statement with little insight as to what is happening behind closed doors. Yes, the match results are much poorer than we expected and, since that’s the reason for existence, they are important. But to say that the “club is a shambles from top to bottom”? “Sadler looking for a way out”? You don’t know that. A guess based on dire negativity.
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A thought, as opposed to a guess, based on the fact there isn't any positivity...unless you can see positives?
 
62years&counting said:
A thought, as opposed to a guess, based on the fact there isn't any positivity...unless you can see positives?
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62years&counting said:
It's the lack of quality Critchley has signed allied to his naivety at this level that's the problem. The club is a shambles from top to bottom. Sadler has been badly let down by Mansford, Johnson and Critchley. I can see Sadler looking for a way out at some point. This is expensive failure for him.
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"The club is a shambles from top to bottom."

This is probably the most ignorant comment I've seen on here in a while (which is saying something).

We haven't gotten off to a strong start, yes. Performances have been bleak and there are gaping problems with the way the team is playing and questions should certainly be asked of Critchley, yes.

But to suggest that the club is in shamble from top to bottom is absurd and borderline delusional.

The signings we made this summer are up for debate in quality (although I think most if not all were praised when announced), but the simple fact that we were able to sign 17 players in one window during a pandemic no less shows just how well the club is being run right now.

If we were still under the Oyston's we would have folded like Bury let alone sign players.

Criticize Critchley and the players all you want (because they deserve criticism), but to suggest that the club is a shambles is idiotic.

Despite how poorly the seasons started I still have faith in the long term that Sadler will make the right decisions in order to get the club back to where we belong.
 
AmericanTangerine said:
"The club is a shambles from top to bottom."

This is probably the most ignorant comment I've seen on here in a while (which is saying something).

We haven't gotten off to a strong start, yes. Performances have been bleak and there are gaping problems with the way the team is playing and questions should certainly be asked of Critchley, yes.

But to suggest that the club is in shamble from top to bottom is absurd and borderline delusional.

The signings we made this summer are up for debate in quality (although I think most if not all were praised when announced), but the simple fact that we were able to sign 17 players in one window during a pandemic no less shows just how well the club is being run right now.

If we were still under the Oyston's we would have folded like Bury let alone sign players.

Criticize Critchley and the players all you want (because they deserve criticism), but to suggest that the club is a shambles is idiotic.

Despite how poorly the seasons started I still have faith in the long term that Sadler will make the right decisions in order to get the club back to where we belong.
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I take it that you're happy with the performance of Mansford and Johnson in the recruitment process? Perhaps you are ignorant in understanding what makes a successful football club and team. I'll comment and criticise as I see fit. Your blind faith is admirable but idiotic.
 
Interesting looking at the squad who faced Tranmere

I think we should have pushed the boat out for Heneghan, I would have kept Feeney and MacDonald and arguably Spearing was the glue that kept us together. The rest were either loans or ready to depart. So with regards to the o/p saying we didn't need 17 new players, I think we actually did but whether the 17 he brought in were the right players remains to be seen ...

  • 32Maxwell
  • 42Moore
  • 6Heneghan
  • 26Husband
  • 11Feeney
  • 17Virtue-Thick Booked at 32mins Substituted for Spearing at 45'minutes
  • 15Dewsbury-Hall
  • 40Ronan
  • 29MacDonald Booked at 75mins
  • 7Delfouneso Substituted forWard at 84'minutes
  • 24Nuttall Substituted for Gnanduilletat 45'minutes

Substitutes​

  • 2Howe
  • 5Edwards
  • 8Spearing
  • 16Garrity
  • 21Gnanduillet
  • 27Ward
 
Well that was then this is the situation right now,Cric has got to get a grip or get going ,then find the best system and work on it.
 
Willie Mcgrotty said:
Gnadulleit was never staying.
Decent spine?
I know it's not working at the moment please don't kid yourself those that were shown the door were pulling up any trees.
Feeney had one good season, constantly given the ball to put in the box. Only ever scored one goal for us.
Spearing, no thanks.
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Gnanduillet was caught out by the fall out from covid

Expecting a move to championship or a top £ contract somewhere
 
whatever comparisons people want to make between last seasons players and this seasons be that positive or negative, the fact is it's all done now. They've gone and we've got what we've got. Critchley has to get a lot more out of these players in terms of how he wants them to play than he is doing right now.
 
Scaramanga said:
It’s all about opinions though isn’t it, Spearings legs had gone for me, gnando was an enigma and could be unplayable on his day and utter gash the next game, Feeney was a bit of one trick pony provided gnando could be bothered and as much as I liked Benhenegan he was as slow as a tractor. That I’m afraid was your spine and I’m pretty sure NC knows they wouldn’t have a clue how to play the system he wanted. Hence he’s ripped it up and started again.
only time will tell if he’s right or wrong Provided he is given it.
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I couldn't agree more,
Saved me replying to BFC 89
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He appears to wish for madine to play now to add some much needed presence. However, if he gets injured we have not one replacement who can play that target man role. That is poor.
 
We've bought a shed load of lower leagues players who, if we're being honest, we'd never heard of the vast majority of them. Just because we have an ambitious owner, a highly regarded coach and a whole new squad, that alone doesn't win you matches. If Critchley has bought players who he feels will suit the style of play he wants, there are no excuses from now on. I'm still happy to give NC until the end of the year to get the team sorted, but he needs to start winning matches very soon and hopefully play with a style we are all expecting.
 
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