Would 2 wins against Peterborough change things?

Shiggy

Shiggy

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As I’m sure some of you know I’ve been a supporter of Critchley all season. I’ve been convinced he’s the right man to take us forward and that, for the final third of the season, he’d be getting the best out of the squad.

I’d say Tuesday is the first result that’s led me to really doubt him . An unacceptable performance at any point in the season, but after 32 games there aren’t any signs of meaningful improvement. It was the same type of result that we’ve seen too often this season, and it doesn’t really seem like he knows how to fix it. The squad are also culpable. I’ve not seen enough to suggest that this team is capable of meeting the expectations we all had at the start of the campaign.

However, a win away at Peterborough on Saturday and us progressing to the cup final on Tuesday could change the mood significantly, both within the group and amongst the fans.

My question is, would those two victories rediscover some belief amongst you lot on here, or have you already wrote the season off regardless?
 
Shiggy said:
As I’m sure some of you know I’ve been a supporter of Critchley all season. I’ve been convinced he’s the right man to take us forward and that, for the final third of the season, he’d be getting the best out of the squad.

I’d say Tuesday is the first result that’s led me to really doubt him . An unacceptable performance at any point in the season, but after 32 games there aren’t any signs of meaningful improvement. It was the same type of result that we’ve seen too often this season, and it doesn’t really seem like he knows how to fix it. The squad are also culpable. I’ve not seen enough to suggest that this team is capable of meeting the expectations we all had at the start of the campaign.

However, a win away at Peterborough on Saturday and us progressing to the cup final on Tuesday could change the mood significantly, both within the group and amongst the fans.

My question is, would those two victories rediscover some belief amongst you lot on here, or have you already wrote the season off regardless?
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Would be pretty embarrassing actually if we do get to Wembley and take about 5k fans. Very much doubt there would be more than that going. As to your question - not for me it wouldn't. I wanted him gone after I wasted my boxing day at Burton watching his pathetic lame tactics.
 
Shiggy said:
As I’m sure some of you know I’ve been a supporter of Critchley all season. I’ve been convinced he’s the right man to take us forward and that, for the final third of the season, he’d be getting the best out of the squad.

I’d say Tuesday is the first result that’s led me to really doubt him . An unacceptable performance at any point in the season, but after 32 games there aren’t any signs of meaningful improvement. It was the same type of result that we’ve seen too often this season, and it doesn’t really seem like he knows how to fix it. The squad are also culpable. I’ve not seen enough to suggest that this team is capable of meeting the expectations we all had at the start of the campaign.

However, a win away at Peterborough on Saturday and us progressing to the cup final on Tuesday could change the mood significantly, both within the group and amongst the fans.

My question is, would those two victories rediscover some belief amongst you lot on here, or have you already wrote the season off regardless?
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I'm with you. Tuesday was that bad in terms of tactics, but more crucially in terms of attitude from the players that you have to take stock.

The criticism of Critchley has meant the players have got away with any kind of scrutiny, but none of them emerged with any credit on Tuesday, and that's on them and not just the system.

Decision making and attitude were bad all night. Leaving aside five minutes after half time, we barely made any inroads towards their goal and couldn't cope with some basic, direct football from a Cheltenham side who were first to every ball.

It's going to take a massive turnaround to get anything from one of the Divisions better sides. If we do, then maybe, just maybe, the season isn't over just yet.
 
Shiggy said:
As I’m sure some of you know I’ve been a supporter of Critchley all season. I’ve been convinced he’s the right man to take us forward and that, for the final third of the season, he’d be getting the best out of the squad.

I’d say Tuesday is the first result that’s led me to really doubt him . An unacceptable performance at any point in the season, but after 32 games there aren’t any signs of meaningful improvement. It was the same type of result that we’ve seen too often this season, and it doesn’t really seem like he knows how to fix it. The squad are also culpable. I’ve not seen enough to suggest that this team is capable of meeting the expectations we all had at the start of the campaign.

However, a win away at Peterborough on Saturday and us progressing to the cup final on Tuesday could change the mood significantly, both within the group and amongst the fans.

My question is, would those two victories rediscover some belief amongst you lot on here, or have you already wrote the season off regardless?
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Not for me, the turgid football we are playing is killing our support. The fact Critch can't or wont change games either at half time or even 1st half if its going that bad is just bloody frustrating. We can all see certain players not delivering, but for some reason Critch gives them far too much time on the field than he should.

The fact he is either incapable of changing formation/system when the need arises is just mind boggling.

Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results is a sign of insanity. We cant keep doing what we are doing. We either change formation/system or you change the manager and as Critch won't change system/formation so we are only left with replacing him!
 
Think it’s too late mate, even if we were to win Saturday (big doubt) it’s not going to be enough to get our promotion charge back on track, and to be honest don’t really care about the Tin Pot, if we were to win our semi I would go to Wembley for the day out but won’t lose any sleep about losing. Just can’t see Critchley turning this around
 
Yes it will , 3 points and trip to Wembley. If fans don’t embrace a Wembley final then we don’t deserve a football club. Last 2 finals we didn’t go cos of Oystons and Covid. Have we become so up our own arses that any trip to Wembley should not be supported. Our one year in the Prem has sadly changed attitudes. Some have a mentality of entitlement. We are where we usually are. Dreaming of better is fair enough but expecting better is only going to lead to disenchantment.
 
Burnnazzer said:
Yes it will , 3 points and trip to Wembley. If fans don’t embrace a Wembley final then we don’t deserve a football club. Last 2 finals we didn’t go cos of Oystons and Covid. Have we become so up our own arses that any trip to Wembley should not be supported. Our one year in the Prem has sadly changed attitudes. Some have a mentality of entitlement. We are where we usually are. Dreaming of better is fair enough but expecting better is only going to lead to disenchantment.
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I went to the Covid one but I very much doubt I would go to this one if we get there.
I am bored stiff at a lot of home games so I won't be traveling to London unless the style and attitude changes or Critchley is no longer here.
 
Wizaard said:
I'm with you. Tuesday was that bad in terms of tactics, but more crucially in terms of attitude from the players that you have to take stock.

The criticism of Critchley has meant the players have got away with any kind of scrutiny, but none of them emerged with any credit on Tuesday, and that's on them and not just the system.

Decision making and attitude were bad all night. Leaving aside five minutes after half time, we barely made any inroads towards their goal and couldn't cope with some basic, direct football from a Cheltenham side who were first to every ball.

It's going to take a massive turnaround to get anything from one of the Divisions better sides. If we do, then maybe, just maybe, the season isn't over just yet.
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It’s not often you see 11+players spitting their dummies out and sulking so something must be going on but it’s no way to treat your traveling customers!
 
Simonized said:
I went to the Covid one but I very much doubt I would go to this one if we get there.
I am bored stiff at a lot of home games so I won't be traveling to London unless the style and attitude changes or Critchley is no longer here.
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Football style is poor at times, but much better than it was under Sam Ellis and Harry Potts, but still went to loads of away games. Only Holloway really excited, but players like Martin Bullock, Wes Hoolihan, and Mickey Walsh gave us individual football to get us out of our seats.
 
Shiggy said:
As I’m sure some of you know I’ve been a supporter of Critchley all season. I’ve been convinced he’s the right man to take us forward and that, for the final third of the season, he’d be getting the best out of the squad.

I’d say Tuesday is the first result that’s led me to really doubt him . An unacceptable performance at any point in the season, but after 32 games there aren’t any signs of meaningful improvement. It was the same type of result that we’ve seen too often this season, and it doesn’t really seem like he knows how to fix it. The squad are also culpable. I’ve not seen enough to suggest that this team is capable of meeting the expectations we all had at the start of the campaign.

However, a win away at Peterborough on Saturday and us progressing to the cup final on Tuesday could change the mood significantly, both within the group and amongst the fans.

My question is, would those two victories rediscover some belief amongst you lot on here, or have you already wrote the season off regardless?
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Sadly not, our main aim this season was promotion and I think that ship as sadly sailed away plus a day out at Wembley in the “Micky mouse cup” should not make up for missing our main objective?
 
The Mickey Mouse cup is the only one we will ever win these days. Our victories laid the foundation of greater success. We need it to have same effect. Loads of tangerine together is exciting. Life is not about the breaths you take but the moments that take your breath away. Even this team has the ability to do just that.
 
Shiggy said:
As I’m sure some of you know I’ve been a supporter of Critchley all season. I’ve been convinced he’s the right man to take us forward and that, for the final third of the season, he’d be getting the best out of the squad.

I’d say Tuesday is the first result that’s led me to really doubt him . An unacceptable performance at any point in the season, but after 32 games there aren’t any signs of meaningful improvement. It was the same type of result that we’ve seen too often this season, and it doesn’t really seem like he knows how to fix it. The squad are also culpable. I’ve not seen enough to suggest that this team is capable of meeting the expectations we all had at the start of the campaign.

However, a win away at Peterborough on Saturday and us progressing to the cup final on Tuesday could change the mood significantly, both within the group and amongst the fans.

My question is, would those two victories rediscover some belief amongst you lot on here, or have you already wrote the season off regardless?
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I'm with you in spirit Shiggy but I only see Blackpool losing to the Posh. Narrowly at home and massively away. If we win both I promise not to reveal my posterior in the window of any Blackpool-based gents outfitters.
 
Both games could go either way, both not playing well. At least Posh won’t just lump it, unless they’ve watched us.
 
If we saw a change of tactics from Critch and we won both games with a bit of style as opposed to luck, which, despite my optimism, I don’t think we will, then it would go some way to healing the rift between club and supporters and perhaps restore a bit of faith. But, with that said, there are a few who didn’t want Critch so they will never change even if we got promoted and won the BSM trophy.
 
Shiggy said:
As I’m sure some of you know I’ve been a supporter of Critchley all season. I’ve been convinced he’s the right man to take us forward and that, for the final third of the season, he’d be getting the best out of the squad.

I’d say Tuesday is the first result that’s led me to really doubt him . An unacceptable performance at any point in the season, but after 32 games there aren’t any signs of meaningful improvement. It was the same type of result that we’ve seen too often this season, and it doesn’t really seem like he knows how to fix it. The squad are also culpable. I’ve not seen enough to suggest that this team is capable of meeting the expectations we all had at the start of the campaign.

However, a win away at Peterborough on Saturday and us progressing to the cup final on Tuesday could change the mood significantly, both within the group and amongst the fans.

My question is, would those two victories rediscover some belief amongst you lot on here, or have you already wrote the season off regardless?
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In a nutshell nope
 
TangerineBayern said:
It’s not often you see 11+players spitting their dummies out and sulking so something must be going on but it’s no way to treat your traveling customers!
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Man Utd players down tools everytime they want a new manager.
I'm sure other teams do it.

Also I hope we get a day out a Wembley.
The league game I'm not so fussed about.
 
Q: My question is, would those two victories rediscover some belief amongst you lot on here, or have you already wrote the season off regardless?

A: I hope we can turn things around & push for the play offs.
However, with NC having thrown the players under the bus after Tuesdays game, and him not accepting any culpability himself (par for the course), I just can't see how he can motivate the players for the upcoming important games.
Good leaders don't do what NC has done & once you lose the players, you lose the supporters & then there's no way back. I believe we're at that point in time, but I won't ever falter in my support for the Seasiders.
UTMP
 
Completely understand the ill feeling around the club, and whilst backing Critchley massively his time does feel like it’s up now.

That being said, it’s ridiculous to not go to Wembley if we make it, really poor do if people can’t be arsed. We’re not in an Oyston bleeding the club dry scenario, though Sadler needs to sort his shit out ASAP
 
Wizaard said:
I'm with you. Tuesday was that bad in terms of tactics, but more crucially in terms of attitude from the players that you have to take stock.

The criticism of Critchley has meant the players have got away with any kind of scrutiny, but none of them emerged with any credit on Tuesday, and that's on them and not just the system.

Decision making and attitude were bad all night. Leaving aside five minutes after half time, we barely made any inroads towards their goal and couldn't cope with some basic, direct football from a Cheltenham side who were first to every ball.

It's going to take a massive turnaround to get anything from one of the Divisions better sides. If we do, then maybe, just maybe, the season isn't over just yet.
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That was a kick in the stomach for me watching on Tuesday Wizard. The players attitude stunk.

We have had bad tactics, bad team set up, more than a few players having stinkers, but to perform like that was a disgrace to the Tangerine shirts.

The players have now put themselves in a no win situation with me when it comes to Tuesday nights home cup game. Let’s see how much passion, commitment and desire they show when they’ve got a chance to play in a final at Wembley. I doubt it will be a repeat of the Cheltenham performance.
 
Unless SS provides me with a chauffer driven limousine and a VIP box with a selection of prawn sandwiches....I'm just not making an effort anymore
I want this team to win all their games.....But I'm not prepared to support them unless we are guaranteed to get 3 points every game.

DONT THEY KNOW WHO WE ARE.....?......We won a ** Ball'on Dor......We were in the ** Prem once.....We are massive on the Fylde
We should walk this league without having to play a game...Fuck all the other teams......
We spent serious money this season, we should win everything

Look at clubs like Portsmouth, they have been in League 1 since 2017.....7 whole seasons......And their owner is Michael Eisner who is worth $1.5B.
They are top of the league......They get home gates of 18,000...They should be promoted for that alone.

I don't ask much.....Maybe a return to the Prem and a Champions league spot by 2027
Were in League 1.....a league not noted for it's free flowing football and skill level......but we should beat Posh just because we turned up...

If SS stuck all his savings into the club...say £100m - £200m, I would be happy....I may even buy a season ticket (as long as they are discounted)
But he has to reduce the price of pies and make that Moretti lounge free for us long term supporters who saw the club through the bad years
I'll keep supporting.....if we win......If not, that's it....I'm going to go back to supporting Man City, Barcelona.....and Liverpool
 
Shiggy said:
As I’m sure some of you know I’ve been a supporter of Critchley all season. I’ve been convinced he’s the right man to take us forward and that, for the final third of the season, he’d be getting the best out of the squad.

I’d say Tuesday is the first result that’s led me to really doubt him . An unacceptable performance at any point in the season, but after 32 games there aren’t any signs of meaningful improvement. It was the same type of result that we’ve seen too often this season, and it doesn’t really seem like he knows how to fix it. The squad are also culpable. I’ve not seen enough to suggest that this team is capable of meeting the expectations we all had at the start of the campaign.

However, a win away at Peterborough on Saturday and us progressing to the cup final on Tuesday could change the mood significantly, both within the group and amongst the fans.

My question is, would those two victories rediscover some belief amongst you lot on here, or have you already wrote the season off regardless?
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We probably will look better (not difficult) against a more footballing side. But if we do actually win the league game then great. We're away again & I may bother to watch it if it's raining, such is my disconnect ATM. I want Critchley to be successful but he seems devoid of ideas.
 
I don't really know - although Peterborough beat us first time round, it's not really games like this that are the problem. We've dealt quite well with decent footballing sides and Peterborough are one of those teams. They'll give us a chance because they attack and leave gaps. We could win both playing the 532 type system (or 32212 or whatever it is), but there'd still be the enormous question of 'how do we play against the (mostly) bottom half teams who don't play football like Peterborough and aren't as technically good as us but yet keep beating us quite easily and we do very little about it'

Last time round, it was when we battered Gillingham at home (and played very well doing so) that I think the penny dropped - we could be confident against any set up - this time, we have a serious problem against your typical well drileld but limited League 1 style team and we seem to neither be able to fight fire with fire or out football them. I'm not sure beating Peterborough twice would assuage my doubts. It would however be very 'Blackpool'
 
Burnnazzer said:
Yes it will , 3 points and trip to Wembley. If fans don’t embrace a Wembley final then we don’t deserve a football club. Last 2 finals we didn’t go cos of Oystons and Covid. Have we become so up our own arses that any trip to Wembley should not be supported. Our one year in the Prem has sadly changed attitudes. Some have a mentality of entitlement. We are where we usually are. Dreaming of better is fair enough but expecting better is only going to lead to disenchantment.
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I hate the word entitled about our fans and it should never be used
 
It’s the wrong question. Only two questions to ask?
1. Did Critchley get the most from the players he has?

2. At the end of the season are we in a playoff position? If the answer to both is no he has to go.
 
Bob Hatton said:
Would be pretty embarrassing actually if we do get to Wembley and take about 5k fans. Very much doubt there would be more than that going. As to your question - not for me it wouldn't. I wanted him gone after I wasted my boxing day at Burton watching his pathetic lame tactics.
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Agree. Part of me hopes that Peterborough beat us so we can avoid the embarrassment of such a low turnout at Wembley.

Not many will go to Wembley whilst we are performing as we are in the league.
 
B_Side_The_C_Side said:
Unless SS provides me with a chauffer driven limousine and a VIP box with a selection of prawn sandwiches....I'm just not making an effort anymore
I want this team to win all their games.....But I'm not prepared to support them unless we are guaranteed to get 3 points every game.

DONT THEY KNOW WHO WE ARE.....?......We won a ** Ball'on Dor......We were in the ** Prem once.....We are massive on the Fylde
We should walk this league without having to play a game...Fuck all the other teams......
We spent serious money this season, we should win everything

Look at clubs like Portsmouth, they have been in League 1 since 2017.....7 whole seasons......And their owner is Michael Eisner who is worth $1.5B.
They are top of the league......They get home gates of 18,000...They should be promoted for that alone.

I don't ask much.....Maybe a return to the Prem and a Champions league spot by 2027
Were in League 1.....a league not noted for it's free flowing football and skill level......but we should beat Posh just because we turned up...

If SS stuck all his savings into the club...say £100m - £200m, I would be happy....I may even buy a season ticket (as long as they are discounted)
But he has to reduce the price of pies and make that Moretti lounge free for us long term supporters who saw the club through the bad years
I'll keep supporting.....if we win......If not, that's it....I'm going to go back to supporting Man City, Barcelona.....and Liverpool
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Very entertaining. I think most just want to see moderate improvement over the course of a season .
 
I think I must be the only one but I'm actually confident against Posh and think we will beat them on Saturday. I don't know why and I don't know where it comes from after Tuesday but for whatever reason I am.
Hopefully we win on Tuesday too cos I'd quite like a trip to Wembley.
I don't think we will get play offs this year though but I thought that a while back anyway so I'll just try to enjoy the ups till the end of the season.
 
I'd love a trip to Wembley but then I actually enjoy competing in a competition that we can potentially win.
It goes back to the other thread "Do I ever want to see Blackpool lose?"
Answer no, of course.
Would winning the next 2 games change things?
Not necessarily but it's better than losing them.
 
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Saturday deserves a reaction from both Critchley and the players. I’m hoping that they’ve all had a long look in the mirror and asked themselves what they need to change to stop the rot of away performances such as Cheltenham.

As stated above, it’s not the footballing sides we tend to struggle with, that’s been the Blackpool way for a long time.
 
No chance , I've a feeling the next two games against Peterbrough will be the nail in the coffin for the season. Hope I'm wrong but unless Critchley swallows a bit of humble pie we'll be set up not to lose and get shown up for what we are.
 
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Burnnazzer said:
Yes it will , 3 points and trip to Wembley. If fans don’t embrace a Wembley final then we don’t deserve a football club. Last 2 finals we didn’t go cos of Oystons and Covid. Have we become so up our own arses that any trip to Wembley should not be supported. Our one year in the Prem has sadly changed attitudes. Some have a mentality of entitlement. We are where we usually are. Dreaming of better is fair enough but expecting better is only going to lead to disenchantment.
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You can only speak for yourself and I think firstly you are a minority and secondly we won't win away ,so it doesn't matter.
 
Critchknows said:
I think I must be the only one but I'm actually confident against Posh and think we will beat them on Saturday. I don't know why and I don't know where it comes from after Tuesday but for whatever reason I am.
Hopefully we win on Tuesday too cos I'd quite like a trip to Wembley.
I don't think we will get play offs this year though but I thought that a while back anyway so I'll just try to enjoy the ups till the end of the season.
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It probably derives from the fact that we tend to prepare better and play better against the better teams. It's weird, but this is where our fault rests and has done all season.
 
How would you describe calling the only cup we could win as Mickey Mouse, or saying it’s a disgrace that we are not in play offs? Man Utd fans use to call the league cup as Mickey Mouse now it’s probably the only thing they can win. Not going to Wembley, finance permitting, to watch your team, because you think your team is too big to be in it, is what?
 
Not for me,
Its down to footballing style and excitement.
Who honestly wants to sit through crab football where you are more interested in defending than going all out to score a goal.
Its Turgid, lacking class and flair and the absolute opposite of what SS said he wanted to bring to Blackpool in Neil Critchley. Get shut of him and get somebody in who will play the style of football fans want.
 
At times we have played some good football, so it is possible, with this coach and these players. For me, the question is about why it doesn't happen more often. Why do we lack conviction in some games, motivation maybe? Are we full of doubt when we are expected to win? And shackles off when we play stronger opposition? We lack that mentality that gets the job done. NC has developed self doubt during his catastrophic year away, and avoided signing strong characters for his squad.

I don't understand why NC has persisted with players in the wing back positions who are not suited, and with the 3 at the back when it creates obvious problems and wastes our best defender. I don't understand why Apter wasn't given a chance to show what he can do in january, when our existing attacking options were misfiring or injured. It's as if considvrations beyond our knowledge are shaping tactics and team selection, and that sort of thing never ends well, when it happens. But it's probably just a blindness from being up close every day.

Sadler has to decide whether to adapt and work with what we have in place, or start again. Fans always call for a new start, but it's not always the right call. It's not hard to demand a sacking on Twitter. But, equally, things can't just drift along as they are.
 
Victorsponge said:
Won't happen anyway
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I expected us to lose at Cambridge but reckon we could get something at Peterborough! We are actually above Posh in the form table - 8 points from the last 6 compared to their 7 points.

Moreover, Posh only have 1 point from their last 4 games. We have 2!
 
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voyeur said:
I expected us to lose at Cambridge but reckon we could get something at Peterborough! We are actually above Posh in the form table - 8 points from the last 6 compared to their 7 points.

Moreover, Posh only have 1 point from their last 4 games. We have 2!
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Got all the makings of a riveting game!
 
Burnnazzer said:
How would you describe calling the only cup we could win as Mickey Mouse, or saying it’s a disgrace that we are not in play offs? Man Utd fans use to call the league cup as Mickey Mouse now it’s probably the only thing they can win. Not going to Wembley, finance permitting, to watch your team, because you think your team is too big to be in it, is what?
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Burnnazzer said:
How would you describe calling the only cup we could win as Mickey Mouse, or saying it’s a disgrace that we are not in play offs? Man Utd fans use to call the league cup as Mickey Mouse now it’s probably the only thing they can win. Not going to Wembley, finance permitting, to watch your team, because you think your team is too big to be in it, is what?
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A personal opinion, to which they are entitled to express, even if others don't agree with it.
 
Shiggy said:
As I’m sure some of you know I’ve been a supporter of Critchley all season. I’ve been convinced he’s the right man to take us forward and that, for the final third of the season, he’d be getting the best out of the squad.

I’d say Tuesday is the first result that’s led me to really doubt him . An unacceptable performance at any point in the season, but after 32 games there aren’t any signs of meaningful improvement. It was the same type of result that we’ve seen too often this season, and it doesn’t really seem like he knows how to fix it. The squad are also culpable. I’ve not seen enough to suggest that this team is capable of meeting the expectations we all had at the start of the campaign.

However, a win away at Peterborough on Saturday and us progressing to the cup final on Tuesday could change the mood significantly, both within the group and amongst the fans.

My question is, would those two victories rediscover some belief amongst you lot on here, or have you already wrote the season off regardless?
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