Mask wearing...

Satsuma

Satsuma

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From today in shops and public transport. Tbh I've never stopped, and still wear one when walking around in pubs...although nobody else seems to🙄.
Attempting to look ahead though, do people think football will be affected again, with games played behind closed doors? 😏
 
62years&counting said:
Always been the case up here in Jocko.
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Yep and in the UK 's other 'Celtic fringe' countries I believe?Tbh I don't think rules on it should have been changed, cos people will be more reluctant to go back to how thing's were. Like I say though, I've never stopped wearing one, so it won't make a great deal of difference to me🤷‍♂️. Travel abroad is a different matter though. I think having to take an official PCR test on your arrival home now will impact the travel industry massively. In fact me and my mate had planned to go backpacking from mid December for a few months, but have now put that on hold. We're now hoping to go to Egypt for a month from mid January, but everything is based on any new restrictions, or how this new Covid variant pans out... 😏
 
TTractor said:
If you wore a mask last time, got the jabs, and aren't dead or hospitalised, why would you not wear one now that there's a new, more transmissible and possibly more aggressive strain of the virus, at least until we know more about the risks?
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Exactly! To me it's just pure selfishness....people who think it's all 'me, me, me', rather than about society as a whole. It's not about freedom of choice(imo), it's about showing respect for other's who are perhaps more vulnerable than yourself🤷‍♂️.
Getting used to putting a mask on is no different to clicking on a seat belt in a car....and most of us remember the rumpus that caused when it was first made mandatory! 😏. Yet everyone does it without thinking now...
 
Satsuma said:
Yep and in the UK 's other 'Celtic fringe' countries I believe?Tbh I don't think rules on it should have been changed, cos people will be more reluctant to go back to how thing's were. Like I say though, I've never stopped wearing one, so it won't make a great deal of difference to me🤷‍♂️. Travel abroad is a different matter though. I think having to take an official PCR test on your arrival home now will impact the travel industry massively. In fact me and my mate had planned to go backpacking from mid December for a few months, but have now put that on hold. We're now hoping to go to Egypt for a month from mid January, but everything is based on any new restrictions, or how this new Covid variant pans out... 😏
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Times continue to be difficult particularly in relation to travel. I had to cancel a cruise last year. I've booked a hol abroad for next Oct 🤞. Hope your Egypt trip goes ahead ok.
 
Satsuma said:
Exactly! To me it's just pure selfishness....people who think it's all 'me, me, me', rather than about society as a whole. It's not about freedom of choice(imo), it's about showing respect for other's who are perhaps more vulnerable than yourself🤷‍♂️.
Getting used to putting a mask on is no different to clicking on a seat belt in a car....and most of us remember the rumpus that caused when it was first made mandatory! 😏. Yet everyone does it without thinking now...
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Yeah, totally the same thing. If anyone had suggested compulsory face masks a few years ago, they would have rightly been laughed at as a mentalist, which goes to show how powerful and sustained the fear & propaganda has been over the past couple of years.
 
Why would wearing a mask if there’s nothing actually wrong with you and you are well protect anyone?

There’s nothing to protect them from 🤣

If the best answer to this is, you might not know you have something wrong with you then we have really disappeared down some rabbit hole.
 
TTractor said:
If you wore a mask last time, got the jabs, and aren't dead or hospitalised, why would you not wear one now that there's a new, more transmissible and possibly more aggressive strain of the virus, at least until we know more about the risks?
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What if, as radical as this sounds, you didn’t wear a mask, didn’t get the jabs and didn’t end up dead or in hospital?

What’s the view then?
 
Since we were told they weren’t necessary I haven’t been wearing a mask (except where required in doctors’ surgeries for instance) but now that we’ve been told to I’ll obviously start again.

The reasons I haven’t worn a mask are:

1. Despite what people say they are a pain in the backside, especially if you wear glasses that continually steam up. In fact they are downright dangerous. And please don’t tell me about the various ways you can stop steaming up. I know all about them and they don’t work.
2. If the government thought they were any use they’d have ordered us to continue wearing them. They didn’t and I’m not playing the emotional blackmail game where the government hasn’t got the balls to make them mandatory but instead puts all the onus on the citizen to comply.
3. There’s plenty of evidence around to show that mask wearing has zero or minimal impact on the spread of the virus. And if that’s not correct and they do then the government was grossly negligent when it told us we could stop wearing them. Either they work or they don’t. Which is it?
4. The truth is it’s all theatrics so the government can pretend it’s doing something. I’ll go back to wearing them with the knowledge it’s an utter waste of time.

And I’m not an anti vaxxer. I had my booster yesterday. It’s just that I can recognise BS when I see and smell it.
 
Mexboroseasider said:
Since we were told they weren’t necessary I haven’t been wearing a mask (except where required in doctors’ surgeries for instance) but now that we’ve been told to I’ll obviously start again.

The reasons I haven’t worn a mask are:

1. Despite what people say they are a pain in the backside, especially if you wear glasses that continually steam up. In fact they are downright dangerous. And please don’t tell me about the various ways you can stop steaming up. I know all about them and they don’t work.
2. If the government thought they were any use they’d have ordered us to continue wearing them. They didn’t and I’m not playing the emotional blackmail game where the government hasn’t got the balls to make them mandatory but instead puts all the onus on the citizen to comply.
3. There’s plenty of evidence around to show that mask wearing has zero or minimal impact on the spread of the virus. And if that’s not correct and they do then the government was grossly negligent when it told us we could stop wearing them. Either they work or they don’t. Which is it?
4. The truth is it’s all theatrics so the government can pretend it’s doing something. I’ll go back to wearing them with the knowledge it’s an utter waste of time.

And I’m not an anti vaxxer. I had my booster yesterday. It’s just that I can recognise BS when I see and smell it.
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Totally agree, the evidence is weak, most don't wear them correctly, the correct type or the effect that has is negligible.

Scotland is just an example of the data going the wrong way compared to what you'd expect.

www.heraldscotland.com

Masks, home working, and longer restrictions: So why DID cases spike in Scotland - but not England?

IT is the “unresolved question” of the past four months: why did Scotland experience a dramatic surge in Covid cases after restrictions ended,…
www.heraldscotland.com www.heraldscotland.com
 
Waste of time was in Scotland the other week mask wearing has never stopped and they have had the same infection rate as us and Wales has been worse.

Saturday I'll pop in a Cafe then to pub followed by a busy concourse in a football ground without a mask but nipping to Tesco in the morning I'll be made to put one on ridiculous.
 
The whole point of all these measures is not to stop the spread of infection, it's to slow it down, buy us time until we know how better how to deal with things. One thing mask wearing does, psychologically, is make people more aware, people naturally distance more. And the evidence is anecdotal on all sides, it's almost impossible to fully quantify. Figures over a few weeks may be totally different over a longer period. When you're talking in tens or hundreds, only a small number of actual events can make a huge difference to percentages. But with everything in this pandemic, it all moves so quickly, the goalposts change, the data and information changes, the resources available change. TinyTractor is autistic and not good in crowds, Mrs Tractor has anxiety, so we tend to avoid crowded places anyway - but to me that's just a sensible thing to do - don't go to indoor places that are busy.
As someone who works in corporate IT, I know that projects can take years in planning and implementation - some of the processes and systems that have been implemented since the start of the pandemic have been developed and deployed unbelievably quickly - yes, there have been issues, but delivering what has been, technologically and logistically, has been impressive.
 
Mexboroseasider said:
Since we were told they weren’t necessary I haven’t been wearing a mask (except where required in doctors’ surgeries for instance) but now that we’ve been told to I’ll obviously start again.

The reasons I haven’t worn a mask are:

1. Despite what people say they are a pain in the backside, especially if you wear glasses that continually steam up. In fact they are downright dangerous. And please don’t tell me about the various ways you can stop steaming up. I know all about them and they don’t work.
2. If the government thought they were any use they’d have ordered us to continue wearing them. They didn’t and I’m not playing the emotional blackmail game where the government hasn’t got the balls to make them mandatory but instead puts all the onus on the citizen to comply.
3. There’s plenty of evidence around to show that mask wearing has zero or minimal impact on the spread of the virus. And if that’s not correct and they do then the government was grossly negligent when it told us we could stop wearing them. Either they work or they don’t. Which is it?
4. The truth is it’s all theatrics so the government can pretend it’s doing something. I’ll go back to wearing them with the knowledge it’s an utter waste of time.

And I’m not an anti vaxxer. I had my booster yesterday. It’s just that I can recognise BS when I see and smell it.
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Spot on 👏🏻
 
Yep… Mask wearing is all a bit daft really…They’re the modern day equivalent of adopting the brace position in a plane crash.
 
Sat on the train to Euston doing my dark Lord impression here.
Standard class is heaving - everyone looked were masked up as the train came in.

I’m fortunate I’m in first today and it’s half empty. Everyone has space but the mask wearing only seems to be for people not eating or drinking.
 
Adams Kebab said:
What if, as radical as this sounds, you didn’t wear a mask, didn’t get the jabs and didn’t end up dead or in hospital?

What’s the view then?
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If you walked down the fast lane of the M1 and didn’t get killed doesn’t mean you would do it on a regular basis.
 
Not an anti-vaxxer or anti-masker but again the rules make no sense.

Wear one for 2 minutes in a shop but not for 4 hours in a pub? Anyone would think it’s so folk don’t cancel Christmas parties or nights out resulting in a drop in income to the hospitality industry, which was closed the longest during each lockdown, at its busiest time......
 
Pauls_Boutique said:
Not an anti-vaxxer or anti-masker but again the rules make no sense.

Wear one for 2 minutes in a shop but not for 4 hours in a pub? Anyone would think it’s so folk don’t cancel Christmas parties or nights out resulting in a drop in income to the hospitality industry, which was closed the longest during each lockdown, at its busiest time......
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Agreed, another half-in, half-out policy from the government but the thinking is probably that the vulnerable can avoid pubs and nightclubs but may have to use shops and pubic transport.
 
Pauls_Boutique said:
Not an anti-vaxxer or anti-masker but again the rules make no sense.

Wear one for 2 minutes in a shop but not for 4 hours in a pub? Anyone would think it’s so folk don’t cancel Christmas parties or nights out resulting in a drop in income to the hospitality industry, which was closed the longest during each lockdown, at its busiest time......
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Of course the rules don't make sense, they will claim they are reducing risk where they can though.

But the impact on cancellations is already happening as people can sense disruption and what may happen and obviously some are easily led by the media.

www.bbc.co.uk

Covid: 'We’ve had 20 cancellations in one weekend'

As worries emerge over a new Covid variant, hospitality fears it could thwart the busiest time of year.
www.bbc.co.uk
 
I wear masks in shops and very busy public areas. It's easy to do and should be second nature to people by now.

I even wear one at home, though thats because the missus says I'm ugly.
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
Of course that wouldn’t have worked as a joke, whereas ’No Crimbo’ had us all in fits of laughter.🥳
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Wizaard said:
Even though there's no B
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Scara and joke maker slightly redeemed?

Classification of Omicron (B.1.1.529): SARS-CoV-2 Variant of Concern

The Technical Advisory Group on SARS-CoV-2 Virus Evolution (TAG-VE) is an independent group of experts that periodically monitors and evaluates the evolution of SARS-CoV-2 and assesses if specific mutations and combinations of mutations alter the behaviour of the virus. The TAG-VE was convened...
www.who.int www.who.int
 
Goforgoal said:
If you walked down the fast lane of the M1 and didn’t get killed doesn’t mean you would do it on a regular basis.
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🤣🤣 honest these people.

99% recovery rate from this virus for most people. Not sure I’ve seen anyone walking down the fast lane of the M1 before or the odds?
 
100 per cent mask wearing reported in Preston today. Shopper by the name of Tom said” Loads going on with masks. Town has never looked prettier cha.”
 
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JJpool said:
Scara and joke maker slightly redeemed?

Classification of Omicron (B.1.1.529): SARS-CoV-2 Variant of Concern

The Technical Advisory Group on SARS-CoV-2 Virus Evolution (TAG-VE) is an independent group of experts that periodically monitors and evaluates the evolution of SARS-CoV-2 and assesses if specific mutations and combinations of mutations alter the behaviour of the virus. The TAG-VE was convened...
www.who.int www.who.int
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Is it ‘actually’ a joke though?

It’s more of a clever anagram … (barring the mid-spelling and random addition of a B)

I’m mean you couldn’t imagine Billy Connolly trotting that one out at the Albert Hall

I suppose you might if the joke was about a dyslexic anagram writer.
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
Is it ‘actually’ a joke though?

It’s more of a clever anagram … (barring the mid-spelling and random addition of a B)

I’m mean you couldn’t imagine Billy Connolly trotting that one out at the Albert Hall

I suppose you might if the joke was about a dyslexic anagram writer.
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Well whatever, I was just curious as it did seem a bit forced.

However the b is kind of there.

Sick of these hidden messages from the illuminati.

I think its telling they put a b after it. B is a bee, bees fly. Sly sounds similar to fly and so does die.

We're all going to die. 😔
 
JJpool said:
Well whatever, I was just curious as it did seem a bit forced.

However the b is kind of there.

Sick of these hidden messages from the illuminati.

I think its telling they put a b after it. B is a bee, bees fly. Sly sounds similar to fly and so does die.

We're all going to die. 😔
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To make the anagram work he had to put the 'B' IN

'B' + IN = BIN

It's Dusty Bin👍
 
Adams Kebab said:
🤣

99% recovery rate from this virus for most people.
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You know that a virus that kills 1% of the people that it infects and is as infectious as Covid is a very dangerous disease indeed don't you?

Also, you know that 1% is with hospital treatment, without it that's going to be significantly higher.
 
Lost Seasider said:
You know that a virus that kills 1% of the people that it infects and is as infectious as Covid is a very dangerous disease indeed don't you?

Also, you know that 1% is with hospital treatment, without it that's going to be significantly higher.
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The fact people are still pretending that this virus is anything close to 'lethal' or ‘very dangerous’ to the vast majority of the population after 20 months is hysterical & borderline embarrassing.

As is the notion that wearing a cloth mask even could stop a lethal virus...
 
Adams Kebab said:
The fact people are still pretending that this virus is anything close to 'lethal' or ‘very dangerous’ to the vast majority of the population after 20 months is hysterical & borderline embarrassing.
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If you think 650,000 dead in the UK alone is not very dangerous then you must be living on a different planet to us.
 
Adams Kebab`s posts are ill informed, ignorant , irresponsible and selfish.

However responsible the great majority are, unfortunately there are always a few who think they know better and put everyone else at greater risk. We`re not playing games here this is life and death for a good many as we`ve already seen and there will probably be many more deaths yet especially if people don`t follow the rules set out for the benefit of us all..
 
1950`spoolfan said:
Adams Kebab`s posts are ill informed, ignorant , irresponsible and selfish.

However responsible the great majority are, unfortunately there are always a few who think they know better and put everyone else at greater risk. We`re not playing games here this is life and death for a good many as we`ve already seen and there will probably be many more deaths yet especially if people don`t follow the rules set out for the benefit of us all..
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Grown men acting like this pffft.

We’re not playing games?

What like ordering a scotch egg or walking 10 yards to a table with a mask on to take it off.
 
Adams Kebab said:
What if, as radical as this sounds, you didn’t wear a mask, didn’t get the jabs and didn’t end up dead or in hospital?

What’s the view then?
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What if you didn't wear a seat belt and arrived safely at your destination?

What if you didn't earth that plug but didn't get a shock?

What if you crossed the road without looking but didn't get run over?

What if....

The seat belt example has been used a lot, but it's almost perfect for this situation, before seat belts most people didn't die in car accidents.
 
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