Summer transfer rumours thread.

RCSeasider said:
I think that's a bit extreme to say the least. There will be 1 or 2 'marquee' signings each summer I would expect, Yates in L1, Gabriel last summer. They were prepared to go to 1m in the January window and I'm sure all the training ground plans were in place then as well!
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£3m deals won’t be happening but a couple of circa £1m transfers will for sure.
 
Lost Seasider said:
Not much.

Potentially, Gibson could be a longer term replacement for Keogh, so perhaps bring him in now, send him out on loan for a season and then have him in place for 2023/24.
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Thorniley has a decent contract and is 1 of our top earners so if he goes it would free up funds

But can we get better ? He has done well
 
voyeur said:
His injuries will likely keep his wages down. He knows he has to prove himself and we'd be taking a gamble. Another tightrope really. Not ideal, win some lose some. I'd rather keep Thorniley but Critch may not want to promise him regular matches.
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I'd keep Thorniley too, but I think we can get away with it next year without him.
 
Thatseasider said:
I'd keep Thorniley too, but I think we can get away with it next year without him.
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I'm sure we can, but we need players who can stay fit, or we'll really wish we'd kept him. We'd all really like us to have a LCB that is on a par with Marv, which is easier said than done, but not out of the question. The English game produces plenty of solid central defenders I reckon.

If we are after Gibson I would hope we have a confidence that his injuries are not ones that have weakened his body. Or intend to check that out. I don't know much about him. We may get him cheap due to his injuries and inexperience, but that may mean he's not a good replacement for Thorniley.
 
The Manager is keeping Kevin Stewart, he has his reasons for this. If Lewis Gibson comes to Blackpool
there will be good reasons why. We dont know who is leaving at present ?
 
Angloitalian said:
Thorniley has a decent contract and is 1 of our top earners so if he goes it would free up funds

But can we get better ? He has done well
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I like JT and he's the best passer of a long ball in our squad.
He's been very unlucky, in that when he's made a mistake / got a deflection, it's usually resulted in a goal.
His only weakness as a CB is his height - he isn't tall enough and not a brilliant header of the ball.
 
voyeur said:
I'm sure we can, but we need players who can stay fit, or we'll really wish we'd kept him. We'd all really like us to have a LCB that is on a par with Marv, which is easier said than done, but not out of the question. The English game produces plenty of solid central defenders I reckon.

If we are after Gibson I would hope we have a confidence that his injuries are not ones that have weakened his body. Or intend to check that out. I don't know much about him. We may get him cheap due to his injuries and inexperience, but that may mean he's not a good replacement for Thorniley.
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I understand the sentiment given his injury history, but you can’t really ever plan for what if injuries.

Like you say you’d hope the club know about his fitness before we think about signing him. I’m sure they will, there’s a story that we were worried about an injury problem with Bowler and that’s why we only did the 1+1 deal for him.

I actually think it’ll be a back four next season with two centre backs Marvin and Casey/Keogh.

Having said all this we could be keeping Thorneily for the reasons you state, we’ve been bitten by the injury bug recently, the management may be every wary.
But ultimately I think the writings on the wall for JT.
 
HodderSeasider said:
I cannot see us paying that for a player who has entered the last year of his contract. If we were that desperate why didn't we pay it earlier in the January window? Let's move on.
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He's just making things up with vague guess on things that are already out there. illustrated by the following,
CalderwoodCritchleyWon’t said:
I have to apologise for the transfer thread from last week. I was told we’d completed a signing but for whatever reason it didn’t happen.
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I woudn't hang on to anything he says
 
Thatseasider said:
He's just making things up with vague guess on things that are already out there. illustrated by the following,


I woudn't hang on to anything he says
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It’s a tricky one because CamBran has had a great season. Josh is in his final year and he’s valued at £4m (with murmurs of a £7m offer), a player is ultimately valued at whatever price a club is willing to pay, if there’s a queue of Championship clubs then £1.2m seems a realistic valuation.

I’m pretty sure Calders did say Josh turned down (or whatever it ended up being) before any newspaper was reporting it - I suppose it’s part of the territory that you’ll get some things wrong. Doesn’t really make much sense to say someone’s signed that day if you’re lying, must have just fallen through.
 
TangerineTom said:
It’s a tricky one because CamBran has had a great season. Josh is in his final year and he’s valued at £4m (with murmurs of a £7m offer), a player is ultimately valued at whatever price a club is willing to pay, if there’s a queue of Championship clubs then £1.2m seems a realistic valuation.

I’m pretty sure Calders did say Josh turned down (or whatever it ended up being) before any newspaper was reporting it - I suppose it’s part of the territory that you’ll get some things wrong. Doesn’t really make much sense to say someone’s signed that day if you’re lying, must have just fallen through.
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everything he says is already out there and it's all vague, "my sources say" bollox 🤣. Up to you though. Bowler turned nothing down, the club kept upping their asking price on TDD and it didn't happen.

And this is the crux of it, I agree 1.2 maybe within the region of where he goes this summer, even if that seems high, he's had a very good season, scored a lot of goals and is basically, in the next three years (Which is the contract he'd get), in the prime of his career. So you'd have to pay the premium for that.

Thought that's what they valued him at in Jan, but if there's multiple Championship clubs in for him then that is what the price will get to.

So if you make vague guesses based on information already in the domain it's very easy to sound like you've got an inside line, anyone could do it.

Cam Bran may very well end up coming here, I think I'd be happy with that really, having seen him play a few times I think he's exactly what we need in the middle.
 
"My sources" 😉 told me we had 2 offers for Josh in January over valuation (don't know that value) which obviously we turned down and JB was not very happy.
 
The reasons Calderwood gave for the Bowler transfer falling through in January were absolutely not the reasons he wasn’t sold. Since he said that and argued against me and I knew the reasons why I take everything he says now with transfers with a large pinch of salt!
 
I know it hasn't been underway for very long but we've not had so much as a wif of any transfer news yet. Was kind of anticipating a flurry of early transfers for peanuts as was last season... I guess maybe due to the prem season not finishing yet that some of our targets are still tied up behind their respective clubs? I know Simon said we won't be spending big money on transfers, but I don't think any sensible person thought that we would ever! Maybe him saying that is hinting to the fact that we won't be paying big for brannigan?
 
Tangojack said:
I know it hasn't been underway for very long but we've not had so much as a wif of any transfer news yet. Was kind of anticipating a flurry of early transfers for peanuts as was last season... I guess maybe due to the prem season not finishing yet that some of our targets are still tied up behind their respective clubs? I know Simon said we won't be spending big money on transfers, but I don't think any sensible person thought that we would ever! Maybe him saying that is hinting to the fact that we won't be paying big for brannigan?
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Remember the ‘early stuff’ last season was in the early/middle part of June. The play-off finals aren’t for another week and a half. If you start getting antsy at this stage it’s going to be a very, very long summer.
 
Tangojack said:
I know it hasn't been underway for very long but we've not had so much as a wif of any transfer news yet. Was kind of anticipating a flurry of early transfers for peanuts as was last season... I guess maybe due to the prem season not finishing yet that some of our targets are still tied up behind their respective clubs? I know Simon said we won't be spending big money on transfers, but I don't think any sensible person thought that we would ever! Maybe him saying that is hinting to the fact that we won't be paying big for brannigan?
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I don't think there's going to be that much transfer activity this summer, a RB and a CM or two and that's about it, anything beyond that depends upon moving other players on.
 
Tangojack said:
I know it hasn't been underway for very long but we've not had so much as a wif of any transfer news yet. Was kind of anticipating a flurry of early transfers for peanuts as was last season... I guess maybe due to the prem season not finishing yet that some of our targets are still tied up behind their respective clubs? I know Simon said we won't be spending big money on transfers, but I don't think any sensible person thought that we would ever! Maybe him saying that is hinting to the fact that we won't be paying big for brannigan?
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The window doesn't open til around June 10th. We started late last year cos of the playoffs.
 
TKL_Seasider said:
Remember the ‘early stuff’ last season was in the early/middle part of June. The play-off finals aren’t for another week and a half. If you start getting antsy at this stage it’s going to be a very, very long summer.
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voyeur said:
The window doesn't open til around June 10th. We started late last year cos of the playoffs.
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Ahhh hadn't thought about this. Makes more sense! Didn't realise the window wasn't actually open yet as there seems to be various clubs already confirming transfers... Eboue Adams being the one that jumps out as being one we "missed".
 
29Days Late said:
Serious question - when does Critch take a break, go on holiday and switch off his phone?
can it happen or is this a no-holiday job?
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I think he said in an interview recently that he can't really ever switch off even over summer. From what I remember he said something along the lines of "I'll get away with the family for a couple of weeks but the mobile and laptop will be with me"

Edit. It might have been in this video but can't watch it back as I'm at work

 
fcblackpool said:
On Grimmy's wages, you'd say £2k is on the top side given he's been on loan at a Belgian tier 2/3 team and didn't get a game. Plus likely to be released by City. His choices may have been limited. Perhaps Gibson has more choice to drive his wage up?

Personally I don't want to see players for the 'future' as such I want oven ready Cship players (Utopia FC permitting), then see where we are.
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I could be wrong, but I think he'll be on much more than that, based on what little I know of the big Prem clubs wages. A good mate of mine is a teacher and one of his students has just signed as a first year pro at Liverpool, 17 years of age, standard LFC youth contract apparently, 2 years, £5k per week. So by his 19th birthday, he'll have earned just over £500k + sponsorships etc. if they then go on to the next contract, up to 21 ish, I'm pretty sure that goes up from there. Its bonkers really, so when they're on loan, most clubs in L1/2 no way can afford their wages...

When he was at school, Liverpool paid for everything; e.g. my mate was behind him in the canteen queue, cashless card system, he had a balance on the card of £12k !!! Not sure what they expected him to eat!

Moneyball indeed!
 
hills98 said:
I could be wrong, but I think he'll be on much more than that, based on what little I know of the big Prem clubs wages. A good mate of mine is a teacher and one of his students has just signed as a first year pro at Liverpool, 17 years of age, standard LFC youth contract apparently, 2 years, £5k per week. So by his 19th birthday, he'll have earned just over £500k + sponsorships etc. if they then go on to the next contract, up to 21 ish, I'm pretty sure that goes up from there. Its bonkers really, so when they're on loan, most clubs in L1/2 no way can afford their wages...

When he was at school, Liverpool paid for everything; e.g. my mate was behind him in the canteen queue, cashless card system, he had a balance on the card of £12k !!! Not sure what they expected him to eat!

Moneyball indeed!
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You may be right. I do know of one youth player who was signed by a pl club and the package included a house, non-returnable, bought for the parents to help him settle in, and the kid got I think it was 8k pw. I assume this is the exception and would be a Foden or TTA type.
 
I read somewhere a few days ago that us & Hull are in for Scott Sinclair? However, looking more than likely he will be going to America.
 
fcblackpool said:
You may be right. I do know of one youth player who was signed by a pl club and the package included a house, non-returnable, bought for the parents to help him settle in, and the kid got I think it was 8k pw. I assume this is the exception and would be a Foden or TTA type.
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Basically what Grimmy was on at City with all the bells and whistles added on top.

He’s from a good family though and is a thoughtful bloke himself. He knew he had to get out and start playing football, money wasn’t an issue so was happy to take a big reduction in the short term to get his career started.

Those personality traits have been borne out this season. We may actually struggle to keep hold of him this summer. Sheff U and Boro are heavily interested.
 
Thatseasider said:
Basically what Grimmy was on at City with all the bells and whistles added on top.

He’s from a good family though and is a thoughtful bloke himself. He knew he had to get out and start playing football, money wasn’t an issue so was happy to take a big reduction in the short term to get his career started.

Those personality traits have been borne out this season. We may actually struggle to keep hold of him this summer. Sheff U and Boro are heavily interested.
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Bids in I heard.

Not sure myself about that, yes he's had a good half season, but has a lot to learn and I'd be surprised if a top end c/ship club will make him 1st pick, so from hpov he'd be better here as a No 1.
 
Not sure we’ll see movement on Bowler before the play-off final, unless someone decides to steal a march on Forest
 
fcblackpool said:
Bids in I heard.

Not sure myself about that, yes he's had a good half season, but has a lot to learn and I'd be surprised if a top end c/ship club will make him 1st pick, so from hpov he'd be better here as a No 1.
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personally thought he shone in the games he played, showing the level of skill he did, even in half a season could get him a big move, especially at his age being a goalkeeper.

Look at Bowler, basically ripped it up for the middle portion of the season, and he's going to be sold for multiple millions.
 
Thatseasider said:
personally thought he shone in the games he played, showing the level of skill he did, even in half a season could get him a big move, especially at his age being a goalkeeper.

Look at Bowler, basically ripped it up for the middle portion of the season, and he's going to be sold for multiple millions.
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I think you're right. Grimshaw settled in immediately and didn't have a bad game, as I remember. At his age as a keeper he is a great prospect and clubs will look to get him for a few million rather than possibly tens of millions in a couple of years. He's well worth a punt for clubs awash with Prem money.
 
Thatseasider said:
personally thought he shone in the games he played, showing the level of skill he did, even in half a season could get him a big move, especially at his age being a goalkeeper.

Look at Bowler, basically ripped it up for the middle portion of the season, and he's going to be sold for multiple millions.
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Much easier for an outfield player to be off his game and not make noticeable mistakes, hence not reduce his appeal/value. With a keeper it's different.
 
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