CJ yesterday :(

Ping Pong said:
Just watched game back on ttv.
CJ was shocking. 68 mins on pitch.
He had ONE run forward beat his man then lost it.
Every touch he gave it away.
0 headers 0 tackles as per.
Gabriel did ten times more in 25 mins.
How does he ever start?
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Tell that to Graves.🤣
 
Ping Pong said:
Just watched game back on ttv.
CJ was shocking. 68 mins on pitch.
He had ONE run forward beat his man then lost it.
Every touch he gave it away.
0 headers 0 tackles as per.
Gabriel did ten times more in 25 mins.
How does he ever start?
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This is nothing new
 
Hopefully NC and the Chuckle Bros will evaluate his performance from their deep analysis of Saturdays game and rectify team selection, formation and tactics for the Pompey game.

But there again, maybe not!🤔
 
Hankey2009 said:
Normally players improve after signing a new contract, he’s literally gone to pot
Having said that, he’s never a wingback and he could only improve in a 442 with Gabriel behind him so that’s on Critchley
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But he was playing well as a wing back before singing his new contract. The guy can't be arsed, he's technically a terrible footballer and without his speed he wouldn't be a professional. Unfortunately he's a complete wet wipe, won't put in a challenge and never wins a physical battle or header.

If we rated our top 10 worst individual performances this season, Hamilton would take up most of them.
 
From the other thread.
All players go in and out of form. I loved joining in the CJ olè chant earlier in the season and you could see CJ revelling in it.
However he's simply not playing well at the moment and it's the Manager's job to recognise that and replace him.
For the record I don't actually think Gabriel is at his best either.
 
Insider said:
From the other thread.
All players go in and out of form. I loved joining in the CJ olè chant earlier in the season and you could see CJ revelling in it.
However he's simply not playing well at the moment and it's the Manager's job to recognise that and replace him.
For the record I don't actually think Gabriel is at his best either.
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You don't have to be playing well to put in a shift though, as fans our favourite players aren't always the most talented, but they always give 100%.

Hamilton just stands around and hides, the fella is a complete bottle job.
 
Insider said:
From the other thread.
All players go in and out of form. I loved joining in the CJ olè chant earlier in the season and you could see CJ revelling in it.
However he's simply not playing well at the moment and it's the Manager's job to recognise that and replace him.
For the record I don't actually think Gabriel is at his best either.
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Gabriel not at his best is ten times the player CJ is though. Plus, he actually can be arsed to put effort in
 
tangerinesince88 said:
Gabriel not at his best is ten times the player CJ is though. Plus, he actually can be arsed to put effort in
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I think it's fair to say that Jordan is far better suited to the current formation.
My concern about him however is he does give the opposition too much room to get crosses in.
 
Graves said:
I’ve replied in the other thread. I agree he wasn’t on it at Shrews, and I wouldn’t have necessarily started him. But, a win is a win.
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When he’s on form he’s worth a place in any team in this division, problem is he’s on form perhaps 1 game in ten.
 
Insider said:
I think it's fair to say that Jordan is far better suited to the current formation.
My concern about him however is he does give the opposition too much room to get crosses in.
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Neither of them do enough to block crosses. In fact despite five defenders when we go 'compact' it's been a constant weakness this season. A back four is so much better as a formation for me.
 
CJ was very good earlier in the season but in no way can anyone justify a starting place at the moment. He was shocking at both Leyton Orient and Shrewsbury, it was like playing with 10 men at times. That said he has incredible pace and that scares the life out of most defenders. He still remains a good option from the bench against tiring legs. I like CJ though, we all know he has weaknesses but it's never lack of effort. Sometimes it is on us as supporters to make them feel 10ft tall, we'll need everyone pulling in the right direction if we are to make the Play Offs and kick on from there.
 
I can’t help feel like he doesn’t truly grasp the he is asked to play, I noticed his reluctance to move from his stationary position on the right touchline on Saturday, even when Pennington was about 5 yards away from him, who was also waiting for the ball … Coulson on the other wing was constantly moving into space & creating options, moving opposition players … This must come down to coaching, on the other hand if they are asking him to move into space & he isn’t he shouldn’t be playing.
 
My take on it was it was supposed to be Andy Lyons' game with Jordan Gabriel on managed minutes, to try keep JG around for longer than he normally is. And it buggered up the mapped out plan when AL got injured.

Given the sub we saw last Tuesday, Critchley will have been unsure of whether to go with Connolly or Virtue there to at least keep a right footer on that side since his mini-epiphany on wing backs. But Hamilton got the nod to switch over when Coulson was OK to come back in.

No other real wingers in the squad due to the way they've planned it, there's obviously no available/trusted dev squad backup, and Dale has gone who could have probably at a push gone in at RWB at the weekend if he'd been here, so we're going to have this.

CJ is all random output and when you least expect it at the best of times and with a run of games when you can see he's in full flow (for him). So you couldn't really expect anything else on Saturday and in this formation Critchley is insisting on. Just a case of trying to muddle through and be less shit than Shrewsbury/not concede first and hoping Dembele could have a moment or two, which he did.
 
Insider said:
From the other thread.
All players go in and out of form. I loved joining in the CJ olè chant earlier in the season and you could see CJ revelling in it.
However he's simply not playing well at the moment and it's the Manager's job to recognise that and replace him.
For the record I don't actually think Gabriel is at his best either.
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JG Is a competent footballer but CJ is neither so I know which one would start 100/100 outside the weird and quite frankly bizarre Critchworld of coaching badges.
 
As I’ve said in another thread the bloke seems scared of his own shadow. He’s a unit but shirks every tackle and header, can’t trap a bag of cement, and his final ball is hit and miss. Imagine Gabriel thinking I’ve gotta be better than him. What a piss take to the decent footballers we do have. And we give him a lengthy contract! Hells teeth 😡 that’s not just on Critch but the recruitment team also. However it’s Critch that keeps picking him!
 
Simonized said:
JG Is a competent footballer but CJ is neither so I know which one would start 100/100 outside the weird and quite frankly bizarre Critchworld of coaching badges.
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I think Critchley knows which one he'd start too with a choice. But it looks like there's some question marks around Jordan Gabriel's time on the pitch and the best way to manage it to make sure he's still in the 18 by the last game unless it becomes a dead rubber. And even more so now Andy Lyons has got injured.

CJ is CJ but I think he's very much part of a cog in a wonky wheel rather than the antichrist on this one.
 
Seasideforever said:
I wonder if there’s something else outside of football wrong with him ? He was so out of that game it’s ridiculous
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I suggested that a little while ago and I accept I was wrong to suggest what it could be (told off by the mods)But I really do think there is something in the background that means they are scared to leave him out completely from the first 18 or whatever it is now.
 
poolfc said:
I think Critchley knows which one he'd start too with a choice. But it looks like there's some question marks around Jordan Gabriel's time on the pitch and the best way to manage it to make sure he's still in the 18 by the last game unless it becomes a dead rubber. And even more so now Andy Lyons has got injured.

CJ is CJ but I think he's very much part of a cog in a wonky wheel rather than the antichrist on this one.
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Play me then as at least I understand football (a few would disagree) but at 63 with a gimpy leg I could do better at the moment.
While we are at it I and 1 or 2 others have been saying for months what quite a few are saying now and got pelters for it.

He can be a player on his day but he is not a thinking footballer and Critchley is making him do things that are completely alien to him and it's quite frankly embarrassing him.
Critchley needs to be taken to task about this as I feel for CJ.
 
Ping Pong said:
Just watched game back on ttv.
CJ was shocking. 68 mins on pitch.
He had ONE run forward beat his man then lost it.
Every touch he gave it away.
0 headers 0 tackles as per.
Gabriel did ten times more in 25 mins.
How does he ever start?
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If CJ is not doing the business he can be sold to Derby for £1m in the summer..
 
The thing with Hamilton is its more about when you play him than where you play him.
Ideally further up the pitch but most importantly the opposition have to be leaving space in behind for him to run on to the ball.
Very rare that this will happen at the outset of a game, so use him when we are winning and the opposition have to abandon some defensive discipline.
Seems obvious to me.
 
It's difficult to dislike CJ because he is an engaging character and you could you see that in his reaction when the CJ song started.

He's out of form and low in confidence so it would be better to take him out of the firing lined and use him from the bench.

IMO he needs to be freed from the defensive shackles of right wing-back and given the license to roam. Also, Pennington is not very good with his distribution and is ok running forwards but very slow when turned. Even with Gabriel in front of him he has been exposed for lack of pace a number of times.
 
Eternaloptimist said:
So what are his strengths ?
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I thought that was pretty obvious . His pace requires balls into space for him to run onto . He’s not a wingback he’s a winger . No point in having the fastest man on the pitch in a full back position when we break especially as he can’t defend. Capable of a decent cross if played on the left . Just my opinion of course.
 
Olliesoffhistrolley said:
If you play to his strengths he can be a real asset imho . Unfortunately Critchley is completely clueless . Tbh Neil has the same problem with several of our players .
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A pretty brief summary, but as good an appraisel of La Critch as I've come across.

He doesn't really strike me as a 'people person'. I would hazard a guess he is a hopeless judge of character, and this rather predictably carries over into how he performs as a manager. Socially, he just comes across as being someone who presents as being a little bit awkward in situations over which he has little, or no control, and he basically lacks the qualities you would consider to be a virtual prerequisite for any functioning manager, let alone one who is in charge at a professional football club, where any shortcomings you may have in your personality are there for all to see - and, yes, Critchley has been bestowed with more than his fair share of these, and which have been there for all to see on what can only be described as an alarmingly regular basis.

On a purely professional level, I think it would be fair to say Critchley has demonstrated, on numerous occasions, examples of the sorts of shortcomings I'm talking about. His persistence in pursuing certain negative tactical approaches in games; the almost insane demonstrations of loyalty he has shown towards certain players in the squad; his unwillingness to show any degree of flexibility in games; the times he has shown his stubborn streak, with instances of his rather dogmatic approach coming to the surface time and time again ...

I could go on, but I'm sure you get my drift ...

The current campaign has been a hugely frustrating affair, in so much as we could have made great strides with the side we've been able to put together, which has been due, in no small measure, to the considerable level of backing Critchley has enjoyed from SS. With Spring fast approaching, we still have plenty to play for, and the coming weeks/months are going to provide us with what will hopefully prove to be both an exciting, and, hopefully, rewarding time.

What I will say, though, is that certain objectives will only be achieved if certain parties are prepared/willing to shift from the rather narrow minset they currently hold to, and instead begin to adopt a more expansive approach to enable us to reach these long-held goals.

We just need to release the handbrake a couple of ratchets.
 
Maybe if CJ was played in his correct position on the correct side of the pitch he would do better. Why he is played on the right side is beyond me.
I am sure if you swapped Jordan Rhodes and Grimmy, they would not play to the best of their abilities either.
 
He’s the type of player you have to play in the right way. Diagonal balls for him to chase and stretch the play. He’s proven he’s good enough when we were in the championship. Some goldfish on ere. Although agreed that his form hasn’t been acceptable this season. I think if the gaffer wants to keep playing this way he has to use him in the second half when defenders may switch off for a second. Him fresh versus tired defenders is a recipe for late chances.
 
If you are played out of position there is zero excuse for bottling tackles, mis controlling the ball and letting it go out for a throw in continuously.

CJ didn't prove he was good enough in the Championship, he was absolutely shite and we got relegated!

You are delusional if you think CJ Hamilton is a good player and because he's "playing right wing back" he's not having a good time of it.

He was playing in literally a wingers position on Saturday because of how forward we were and he put in the most pathetic performance I've seen from a Blackpool player to add to the other 20 he's had this season.
 
Albert Ross said:
Tell that to Graves.🤣
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I've got to ask, AR, but does said character hail from the North-East, by any chance? If so, if there are any Geordie Seasiders out there, I'm just wondering, if ever they were to make direct refererence to him in general conversation with someone (a fellow Geordie, maybe), would they preface any point they were intending to make, by way of the introductory opening couplet: "Wor Graves ..."?
 
I wondered whether there was something wrong on Saturday. I also noticed a reluctance to pass to him
 
Cuthbert said:
I wondered whether there was something wrong on Saturday. I also noticed a reluctance to pass to him
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I have often wondered how skilled players not playing when he is so atrocious of late must feel deep down knowing he gets a free ride off Critchley.
 
SeasideKurt said:
If you are played out of position there is zero excuse for bottling tackles, mis controlling the ball and letting it go out for a throw in continuously.

CJ didn't prove he was good enough in the Championship, he was absolutely shite and we got relegated!

You are delusional if you think CJ Hamilton is a good player and because he's "playing right wing back" he's not having a good time of it.

He was playing in literally a wingers position on Saturday because of how forward we were and he put in the most pathetic performance I've seen from a Blackpool player to add to the other 20 he's had this season.
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There’s always players that pull out off challenges so I wouldn’t hammer him for that.

I agree there are games where CJ would probably be better starting off on the bench but that’s down to Critchley.

I didn’t watch the game on Saturday so I can’t comment on that particular performance.

I think the problem is that apart from Dembele we have nobody else that can take a player on and go past them.

CJ can so that’s why he starts more than he doesn’t.
 
no9 said:
There’s always players that pull out off challenges so I wouldn’t hammer him for that.

I agree there are games where CJ would probably be better starting off on the bench but that’s down to Critchley.

I didn’t watch the game on Saturday so I can’t comment on that particular performance.

I think the problem is that apart from Dembele we have nobody else that can take a player on and go past them.

CJ can so that’s why he starts more than he doesn’t.
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He was scared of his own shadow the other day and has been pretty pathetic in almost every game he has started since his new deal.

It's not a one off it's a regular feature now and Critchley is destroying what good there is in him.
 
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