2nd goal

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That was crucial, we got back into it and deservedly so.

To concede such a weak shocking goal was pathetic just before half time.

Looked like Maxwells fault to me but I'd have to see it again, seemed to go straight through him.

A real game changing moment.

Has anyone seen it back? Obviously there's a lot of moments involved in where we are but that one may prove fatal this season.
 
JJpool said:
That was crucial, we got back into it and deservedly so.

To concede such a weak shocking goal was pathetic just before half time.

Looked like Maxwells fault to me but I'd have to see it again, seemed to go straight through him.

A real game changing moment.

Has anyone seen it back? Obviously there's a lot of moments involved in where we are but that one may prove fatal this season.
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Maxwell is the best keeper in the world in a Subbuteo world that is and would be the first choice in any Subbuteo team.

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Maxwell again. Scared stiff of getting clattered so never comes for a cross. Unfortunately a liability and if we go down he’s even worse in league 1 when teams lump it in the box more. We did warn people that our best keeper is sat on the bench but what do we know
 
Ditch_the_Dino🦖_Simonized said:
Maxwell is the best keeper in the world in a Subbuteo world that is and would be the first choice in any Subbuteo team.

💩💩💩💩
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He's shit at crosses and kicking the ball.

Horrendous moment in the game and left an uphill battle, deflated everyone again.

OK 2nd half we didn't help ourselves and the 3rd goal was pathetic.

But we'd have had far more belief.
 
Halifax71 said:
Harsh, but shot stopping aside (for which he's been rightly applauded for recently) grimshaw should be playing.

I'd be amazed if grimshaw is here next season, we'll have missed out on a real gem, and a profitable one.
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Would be very surprised if Grimmy doesn’t go to a club where he will be first choice - been messed around a little here
 
JJpool said:
He's shit at crosses and kicking the ball.

Horrendous moment in the game and left an uphill battle, deflated everyone again.

OK 2nd half we didn't help ourselves and the 3rd goal was pathetic.

But we'd have had far more belief.
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He’s very good at getting the ball, seeing a quick break with unmarked players racing ahead… pegging it really fast to the edge of the box, then waiting 15 years before proceeding further.
 
Halifax71 said:
Harsh, but shot stopping aside (for which he's been rightly applauded for recently) grimshaw should be playing.

I'd be amazed if grimshaw is here next season, we'll have missed out on a real gem, and a profitable one.
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Grimmy's under contract so if he goes we'll want a fee.
It's a bit indeterminate if it will be bigger or smaller in view of his lack of appearances.
 
Block j said:
Great shop stopper, but coming for crosses , commanding the area and kicking 🤔
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He's not a great shot stopper, sometimes he alright others he's weak there too. Quite a few goals this season could have been saved.
 
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Insider said:
Grimmy's under contract so if he goes we'll want a fee.
It's a bit indeterminate if it will be bigger or smaller in view of his lack of appearances.
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I am not sure if that is indeterminate. His lack of game time is only taking the fee one way. If he is not good enough to start start ahead of Chris, then the only way is down.
 
We have two keepers who refuse to command their 5 yard box.

Maxwell also very insistent on twatting it long to our under 6ft attackers all game when a simple 5 yard pass was on. Their keeper wiped the floor with Maxwell in terms of distribution.
 
JJpool said:
That was crucial, we got back into it and deservedly so.

To concede such a weak shocking goal was pathetic just before half time.

Looked like Maxwells fault to me but I'd have to see it again, seemed to go straight through him.

A real game changing moment.

Has anyone seen it back? Obviously there's a lot of moments involved in where we are but that one may prove fatal this season.
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Lets blame Maxwell that they still had 11 men on the pitch instead of 9 .Lets blame Maxwell that we didn't get the nailed on second penalty we should have got . You obviously dislike Maxwell ,but don't be coming out that he made a game changing mistake when we had a ref like that . Its a pathetic post.
 
basilexile said:
I am not sure if that is indeterminate. His lack of game time is only taking the fee one way. If he is not good enough to start start ahead of Chris, then the only way is down.
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But he might have been sh1t if he had played.
Just being Devils Advocate.
 
WIZARD OF TANGERINE said:
Lets blame Maxwell that they still had 11 men on the pitch instead of 9 .Lets blame Maxwell that we didn't get the nailed on second penalty we should have got . You obviously dislike Maxwell ,but don't be coming out that he made a game changing mistake when we had a ref like that . Its a pathetic post.
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What are you talking about, no it isn't.

Yes we should have had some decisions but guess what, we never do.

Having got back into the game to concede that pathetic goal pretty much cost us.

Completely changed the game and feel, gave us another uphill battle, deflated us and the players and gave them massive confidence.

It was pathetic goalkeeping, a basic ball in.

If we went in at 1 all whoknws what might have happened.

You can't blame the ref for us not doing the basics.

Don't blame Maxwell? When he was seemingly at fault for the game changing moment, ok..... that's just defending him for no reason. That was a massively costly mistake.
 
JJpool said:
What are you talking about, no it isn't.

Yes we should have had some decisions but guess what, we never do.

Having got back into the game to concede that pathetic goal pretty much cost us.

Completely changed the game and feel, gave us another uphill battle, deflated us and the players and gave them massive confidence.

It was pathetic goalkeeping, a basic ball in.

If we went in at 1 all whoknws what might have happened.

You can't blame the ref for us not doing the basics.

Don't blame Maxwell? When he was seemingly at fault for the game changing moment, ok..... that's just defending him for no reason. That was a massively costly mistake.
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If you don't like Maxwell just say so ,but don't make out he cost us the game . He probably would never had had to make any saves if the ref had done his job. You call yourself a Blackpool supporter ,but you aren't . If you were,you would be looking at the real reason why this game was lost and not looking for a Blackpool player individual . Even most Grimmy supporters would not blame Maxwell for losing this game.

Why do you have such a personnel hate for Maxwell ? Its obvious you just want to cause trouble for our number one. I repeat ,a pathetic post.
 
I have noticed its the same sad few that want to get on Maxwell's back . He seems to have been targeted by the same 10 or so people that write on the AVFTT website. Well I hope you get your wish and he leaves because he was 1 of the 11 that got us into this division and he deserves to be in it as he earned it. So lets hope another championship club comes in for him and it would serve you right if Grimmy left as well ,because if this happens we will be in Div 1 for years to come. Both goalies have ability ,but if the so called fans target one for no real reason ,we don't deserve to be in the higher divisions .

If Grimmy is that good ,he will go elsewhere after being relegated and if you force Maxwell out then we really will have a goal keeping crisis . If you have found time to slag any Blackpool player after that refereeing display you should look at yourselves and ask . Did Maxwell really lose that game for us or am I just writing shit to get my favourite goalie in nets. I think most sensible supporters will be blaming the ref and not Maxwell ,which DOES MAKE IT SHIT YOU ARE WRITING.
 
I’m not quoting your post because the majority is written so poorly it’s unbelievable.

Maxwell does not command his 5 yard box. Which every other Championship keeper does.

Having players like Maxwell, Dougall, CJ, Madine, Lavery, Williams and many more as a core of our first 11 is why we are in the relegation zone. League one players max.
 
WIZARD OF TANGERINE said:
I have noticed its the same sad few that want to get on Maxwell's back . He seems to have been targeted by the same 10 or so people that write on the AVFTT website. Well I hope you get your wish and he leaves because he was 1 of the 11 that got us into this division and he deserves to be in it as he earned it. So lets hope another championship club comes in for him and it would serve you right if Grimmy left as well ,because if this happens we will be in Div 1 for years to come. Both goalies have ability ,but if the so called fans target one for no real reason ,we don't deserve to be in the higher divisions .

If Grimmy is that good ,he will go elsewhere after being relegated and if you force Maxwell out then we really will have a goal keeping crisis . If you have found time to slag any Blackpool player after that refereeing display you should look at yourselves and ask . Did Maxwell really lose that game for us or am I just writing shit to get my favourite goalie in nets. I think most sensible supporters will be blaming the ref and not Maxwell ,which DOES MAKE IT SHIT YOU ARE WRITING.
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If CJ had scored early on ?? Coventry were better than us in all departments especially the physical side

Still a slight chance of staying up and it shows how shite QPR are - but they will probably stay up as the games are running out
 
WIZARD OF TANGERINE said:
If you don't like Maxwell just say so ,but don't make out he cost us the game . He probably would never had had to make any saves if the ref had done his job. You call yourself a Blackpool supporter ,but you aren't . If you were,you would be looking at the real reason why this game was lost and not looking for a Blackpool player individual . Even most Grimmy supporters would not blame Maxwell for losing this game.

Why do you have such a personnel hate for Maxwell ? Its obvious you just want to cause trouble for our number one. I repeat ,a pathetic post.
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I have nothing against Maxwell but judge him off whats expected and that falls way short. He isn't good enough.

Yes the ref was a joke, should have given us a pen and them a red or 2.

But he didn't. From what we could control at 1 all we had to get through to half time.

Your an absolute joke of a poster, I'm not a Blackpool fan, your off your head you weirdo.

One of the weirdest post on this forum is to defend that sort of incompetent keeping.

I've said elsewhere that the ref was ridiculously bad and the other way round there's no doubt we get reds or another pen given against us. Massive moments that again didn't go the way they should.

But having got to the point of half time, to concede that goal that should have been saved completely changed the game unnecessarily. It was a huge moment in momentum.

That was within our control.

Not a Blackpool fan....you absolutely whopper.
 
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If CJ had scored early on ?? Coventry were better than us in all departments especially the physical side

Still a slight chance of staying up and it shows how shite QPR are - but they will probably stay up as the games are running out
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To be fair though, they were allowed to ‘impose’ their physical dominance by the referee… The way he refereed the game played to the advantage of their style of play…

Taking the three (and possibly 4 if you consider the mauling that Rogers got in the penalty area second half into account) major decisions in the game out of the equation, the ref still consistently allowed them to shirt pull and bring any player breaking away down without punishment… Our entire gameplan vs better sided relies on our ability to pick up possession and break …twice (in the centre of the park) they went into challenges with high feet, studs showing and not even a warning… and it was relentless throughout the game….

I’ve no issue with being genuinely outmuscled or involved in a physical game at all, but when that devolves into constant shirt pulling, blatant obstruction and punching in the face, I think it’s becomes unfair / cheating.

For me… The biggest factor between our 6-1 mauling of QPR and the 1-4 mauling from Cov was the style and competence of the referees…
 
I will pick on Maxwell. How many times has he been on the winning side compared to Grimshaw? How many times this season or last has he commanded his penalty area at corners?
Is he the future ?
Win lose or draw Grimshaw should be playing .
And although our goalkeeping coach Mr Banks is well respected on here shouldn't he shoulder some blame. I still remember him jumping ship in the "bad ol days" as soon as the bid came in. Him and Clark . Never given him any time since .
 
Maxwell has played well recently and pulled off some worldies and doesn’t deserve the dogs abuse he gets, however after that mistake then Grimmy surely gets a chance in the team.
 
Chesterbfc said:
I will pick on Maxwell. How many times has he been on the winning side compared to Grimshaw? How many times this season or last has he commanded his penalty area at corners?
Is he the future ?
Win lose or draw Grimshaw should be playing .
And although our goalkeeping coach Mr Banks is well respected on here shouldn't he shoulder some blame. I still remember him jumping ship in the "bad ol days" as soon as the bid came in. Him and Clark . Never given him any time since .
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Banks is the reason both keepers never come for anything. Following his pattern.
 
He didn't cost us the game - that was down to multiple factors, but he did contribute to it with that absolute mess of a 2nd goal which almost every gk in this league would've dealt with better. This isn't a vendetta, we're only commenting on what we can see and what happens in the game.
I also don't get why a player's performance in a season two years ago in an easier league has anything to do with what's happening now and if he's still good enough for the league we're playing in.
 
Seeing the goal back, yep it was very poor from Maxwell. Hard to fathom how the ball got past him at a very catchable height. However, I'm surptised no one has mentioned what led up to that corner. Fiorini received the ball in plenty of space and should have turned on the ball and gone forwards. However he passed it needlessly back and straight out of ply to give them a throw in from which they then got a corner. The ball should have been up the other end of the pitch.
 
BFC_53 said:
He didn't cost us the game - that was down to multiple factors, but he did contribute to it with that absolute mess of a 2nd goal which almost every gk in this league would've dealt with better. This isn't a vendetta, we're only commenting on what we can see and what happens in the game.
I also don't get why a player's performance in a season two years ago in an easier league has anything to do with what's happening now and if he's still good enough for the league we're playing in.
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It was a poor effort for the second goal ,but in general he has been a great servant to Blackpool and he earned the right to play in a higher division if he was part of the team that got the promotion.
 
BFC_53 said:
I also don't get why a player's performance in a season two years ago in an easier league has anything to do with what's happening now and if he's still good enough for the league we're playing in.
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This applies for a few of our players.

Think fans also forget that the players are 2 years older. Can make a difference in relation to reactions, pace, energy etc.

You can be happy with what a player did 2 years ago and be thankful for it, but we need people in the here and now. It’s not being disrespectful to say they are struggling and not good enough just because they scored a winning goal in a final or made a great save 2 years ago. Bizarre logic.
 
WIZARD OF TANGERINE said:
It was a poor effort for the second goal ,but in general he has been a great servant to Blackpool and he earned the right to play in a higher division if he was part of the team that got the promotion.
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He definitely earned the right, and he has played in the higher division regularly for us so he's had that opportunity. But I do think there comes a point when you need to improve in order to compete, and the gk position is one where I think we need improvement. As it happens, it looks likely we'll be playing in league one next season anyway so it might be that we stick with him, as he's already proven he can be a part of a promotion winning team at that level. I suspect Grimmy might get more game time next season though.
 
TangerineBayern said:
Too many individual mistakes cost us the game and gifted 4 goals to Coventry.
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Indeed. Surprised there has been little mention of the cross field square pass at the back which gifted them their fourth goal. But all over the pitch we were terrible in possession of the ball.
 
20togo said:
Indeed. Surprised there has been little mention of the cross field square pass at the back which gifted them their fourth goal. But all over the pitch we were terrible in possession of the ball.
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Or CJ getting completely the wrong side of their RB in an attacking position who hit a rasping shot that Maxi tipped round which led to their corner and 2nd goal. These seemingly minor errors are school boy and you will get punished at this level, it’s happened all too often this season and gifted opponents costly goals at times.
 
I have not seen the 2nd goal you are all debating so l cannot give any opinion, but I do think a rebuild is essential going forward wether that be Championship or league one.
And the rebuild starts with a keeper or two?
We need to find an a John Burridge mark 2.
By that I mean somebody that wants shots to save and cross's to come for and is generally comfortable with the ball 🏀.
 
20togo said:
Indeed. Surprised there has been little mention of the cross field square pass at the back which gifted them their fourth goal. But all over the pitch we were terrible in possession of the ball.
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There was nothing wrong with the pass and everything wrong with Connolly's attempt to let it run across him, allowing the attacker to steal it.
 
midfield general said:
I have not seen the 2nd goal you are all debating so l cannot give any opinion, but I do think a rebuild is essential going forward wether that be Championship or league one.
And the rebuild starts with a keeper or two?
We need to find an a John Burridge mark 2.
By that I mean somebody that wants shots to save and cross's to come for and is generally comfortable with the ball 🏀.
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All our keepers will stay on their line until Banks moves on as GK coach.
 
BFC_53 said:
He definitely earned the right, and he has played in the higher division regularly for us so he's had that opportunity. But I do think there comes a point when you need to improve in order to compete, and the gk position is one where I think we need improvement. As it happens, it looks likely we'll be playing in league one next season anyway so it might be that we stick with him, as he's already proven he can be a part of a promotion winning team at that level. I suspect Grimmy might get more game time next season though.
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There is no reason that Grimmy should not get more game time now , but he has made mistakes when in nets ,yet he does not have a core of Blackpool fans pointing his mistakes out and saying that he isn't good enough.
 
All 4 goals were self inflicted. Maxwell probably the second but if we are going to point fingers Patino got lashed by at least 4 players for the first goal and standing off and having flat feet in not closing the scorer down and so on. Its not getting is anywhere pointing fingers - it was all round shoddy defending.
 
Not getting the 2nd pen and conceding so close to half time was the mitigating factors , the blame culture needs to stop as collectively after 39games we haven't been good enough or scored enough.
 
We can discuss poor referees, of which we have had more than our share, individual players or errors or anything else. The bottom line is we are were we are because the players are not good enough for this division. This summer, whichever league we are in needs a mass clearout of deadwood and better players bringing in. I’m not talking in terms of millions of £s, I just think it’s time the so called recruitment team earned its corn. Let’s hope these new super recruiters from Coventry are a damn site better than our previous lot.
 
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