Point 1 - It's 70/30 Hamiltons fault and it was extremely ** stupid and one of the most dangerous incidents this season. I like Hamilton, I wanted him to win yesterday. The outrage is just making people look a bit stupid to be honest.
And then he would have overtaken Max on the last lap and none of this crying would be taking place. He had tyres that were 45 laps old. He even said it was stupid they didn't bring him in. New softs >>>>>>>>>>>extremely old Hards.
He'd only have overtaken Max if the same ad-hoc 'let half the lapped cars overtake the safety car' rules had been applied and I'm not sure the RD is consistent from one moment to the next.
The exact same scenario would have happened. I don't think we need to pretend there is some sort of bias against Hamilton. I could reel a list of things both him and Max have got away with.
Seemed pretty fine to me, track is clear and it's near the last lap. Why wait for another 5/6 cars to go through when you could let people race? It's a race after all, not a follow the safety car round for 6 laps.
It's not an accusation of bias, it's an accusation of inconsistencies from one minute to the next.
Such a dumb take to avoid stating the obvious, that the rules were broken to change how a F1 race works, meaning that Mercedes didn’t have “numerous chances” to change their tires. If you knew the sport you’d know this but instead you’re the one pretending to know the sport and gatekeep others out.
I think for the good of the sport two things need to happen 1) Masi sacked as he lacks any authority, this weird bargaining with teams has never happened before and 2) prevent any communication between the RD and teams unless asked for by the RD.
It wasn't artificially manufacturing a result in my eyes. One driver took a risk, it paid off. Happens all year long.
Only a dumb take because you don't like it. Soon as you use that stance, waste of time talking to you. I'd have bothered to reply without that start tbh. I do know and it's clear a vast majority have never watched F1 with the amount of outrage! OMG a crash and someone has lost out because of it. It. Happens. All the time.
Agree with that - I think they also need to look at pitting under safety car/ virtual car. In a sport of fine margins, it's ludicrous that cars can lose the pain staking advantage they may have built up lap by lap over some twist of luck through accidents by others and then what happens because of that.
I think the rules on safety cars need reviewing. It is not just this race where a seemingly unassailable lead has been wiped out. It was only a few races ago that Hamilton had just passed the pit entry when the safety car or virtual safety car was deployed and subsequently he was put at a tremendous disadvantage.
I'm not sure what the answer to the SC is, maintaining gaps would be almost impossible?
Don’t they already manage that with the VSC?
It was though, because it was the decider, Masi finished them behind the SC in Bahrain last year but the championship was done.
Tricky yes - but at the very least, cars shouldn't be allowed to pit unless under full race conditions.
You won’t engage because you’re wrong. If you can’t handle your views being scrutinised don’t post them on a forum. It’s, to me, a dumb take so I will call it that. You were just posting to make yourself feel better than other people who were new to the sport but your own views don’t stand up to scrutiny or are not consistent with an understanding of the sport.
Yeah but you can't control where cars are on track with a VSC. The idea of bunching them up is so areas of the track are safe to work on with no cars coming past for a time.
Or as Brundle and Niko said, virtual gravel traps, whereby the engine is cut or limited for 2secs if a driver goes off the track. It would stop Max doing his mad lunges, but would also impact the drivers he forces wide, hmm, really not an easy one to solve.
I'm not wrong though am I? Because what I've said happened is factually true. You just can't handle it because you're too upset your mate didn't win.
Do they? The sport is the most popular it's ever been at this current time. There's clearly a reason for it?
I think your last point is a very good one. Just interested in your views on a few other points..
Ah a decent post, finally, not waffle.
Kurt
Well that is simply not true, the latest available viewing figures show they dropped by 8%. As for reviewing the rules, yes, they 100% need to look at them or at least how they communicate them within a race situation, yesterday was not good for the sport in the long term. If the FIA can't officiate the sport properly it will damage the brand further.
Agreed - don't forget the balls up with comms the previous week when again the race director was too slow telling Mercedes that Max was giving the place back.
Maybe go straight to a red flag park ferme scenario, and then stagger the release of drivers on a timed basis similar to rallycross based on timings when incident occurred
Another one in the eye for the Hamilton haters. No 'cry baby' antics or stropping off/ flouncing to be seen.
Really, why?
Newspaper reports online . Its not official yet .
Why? The final race and the championship has been decided in the past under the safety car yet people didn't go mental.
I have heard quite a few people say this which is a shame but understandable when a whole Grand Prix season in effect comes down to just one lap at the whim of the race director
But it didn't
In most people's opinion, yes. However with the rules the way they are, apparently he only needs to justify it to one person - himself!
It was a fantastic move and with nothing to lose, I'd expect nothing less from Max. However I do feel it was reckless to make the move there when he had the straight coming up soon after.
Lewis was a sitting duck, whether that corner or the straight, there was only ever one winner once the race director cleared the way for Max. I don't mind Max's style, he can be a little reckless bordering on dangerous but that is what has made this season as watchable as it has been.
