AFC Fylde - whats their future?

Apologies 20s. For some bizarre reason I had assumed that players who have played regularly at higher level would be better suited to playing at that level than those who had never played there. I don't know what came over me.
 
Apologies accepted. You assumed too much. AFCF are next to bottom because that's where they deserve to be. As I said where some-one has played the odd game or two in seasons gone by counts for nothing. As did the games in hand they had earlier season.
 
20togo said:
Apologies accepted. You assumed too much. AFCF are next to bottom because that's where they deserve to be. As I said where some-one has played the odd game or two in seasons gone by counts for nothing. As did the games in hand they had earlier season.
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Good point today 😊
 
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tommytwojags said:
Wizaard, don't let your unnatural hatred of Fylde disguise the fact that, unlike most clubs in the National League, nearly all their players have experience of playing in the Championship, Leagues 1 and 2
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Just had a scan through their squad and counted 6-7 in their squad who were former EFL players, with varying experience. Certainly wouldn't say nearly all their players have experience of the EFL.
 
tommytwojags said:
Wizaard, don't let your unnatural hatred of Fylde disguise the fact that, unlike most clubs in the National League, nearly all their players have experience of playing in the Championship, Leagues 1 and 2
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Well said. They're in the same division as Yeovil which is another team he knows nothing about 🤪
 
Bispham_Seasider said:
Just

Just had a scan through their squad and counted 6-7 in their squad who were former EFL players, with varying experience. Certainly wouldn't say nearly all their players have experience of the EFL.
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Counting not your strong point Bispham? I make it 13 Fylde players who have played regularly in the EFL.
 
So we didn't beat Fleetwood.............

Yeah lets go after a local non league team

#embarrassing #grownmen
 
Was there today.. The standard was very poor from both sides & way short of AFC Fylde last year. Pitch was bad & conditions were difficult but the level was Sunday league at best sadly... But if Solihull are playoff contenders ill bear me bum in butons window....
 
20togo said:
How is that relevant? Just because in days of long ago some of them may have had the odd game at a higher level means nowt today. The FACT is they are next to bottom of the National League and that's based on the players they have and how they are performing NOW!

Lets face it, I could quote half of Blackpools team who've got experience of playing at a higher level. Jeez, Spearing has even played Champions League football. It's just not relevant today. Poor stuff , TTJ
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He’s played in a Champions League Final indeed 20s
 
tommytwojags said:
Wizaard, don't let your unnatural hatred of Fylde disguise the fact that, unlike most clubs in the National League, nearly all their players have experience of playing in the Championship, Leagues 1 and 2
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Just for the record, I have no hatred unnatural or otherwise. I do have an issue with the way they tried to be something they're not. Coasters...pah. The real team of the Fylde...pah.

All at our expense.
 
Wizaard said:
Just for the record, I have no hatred unnatural or otherwise. I do have an issue with the way they tried to be something they're not. Coasters...pah. The real team of the Fylde...pah.

All at our expense.
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The real team of the Fylde have won an FA Cup, League title, record holders for most play off finals won, a league club for most their existence, I could go on. Also the coasters? They are about 10 miles off the coast 😂 Never seen so much nonsense as that spouted from Fylde!
 
tommytwojags said:
Counting not your strong point Bispham? I make it 13 Fylde players who have played regularly in the EFL.
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Ignoring the sarcasm, when I said that I had a scan through their squad last night, rather than a comprehensive check, today I have looked at both wikipedia (which I had quickly scanned through yesterday) and talso the Fylde website. As I have now seen, the wikipedia page is not as up to date as the clubs website, but it is still useful of course to check for appearances. However, it makes little difference in the number of players who regularly played in the EFL.

The Fylde website gives a squad of 24, and these are the players I can find, by cross referencing that and wikipedia, who have played in the EFL. Note that this includes both those who have played regularly in the EFL, which is six players and those who have played short periods in the EFL (two players). And finally there are three loan players from EFL sides, two of whom have little experience in the League.

Played regularly in the EFL (6 players)

Lewis Montrose - aged 31, Lewis played regularly for a few clubs in League Two, though he moved down to the National League North in 2015, to play for Stockport County and has not played in the EFL since 2015.

Alex Whitmore - aged 27, First part of his career he spent being loaned out to non-League sides Chester and Gateshead. Alex spent the 2016-17 season on loan at Morecambe, playing 35 games. In 2017-18 he was on loan at Bury (8 games) and Chesterfield (15 games). Then last season he made 31 appearances for Grimsby. All League Two.

Danny Philliskirk - 28 year old, spent two years at Blackpool, 154 League appearances in 7 years for various clubs, mostly in League One.

Tom Miller - 29 years old, spent most of his career in non-League after a season in the League of Ireland, before 4 years in the EFL with first Carlisle United then one season with Bury. So from 2009 to 2015, League of Ireland and non-League, followed by 4 years in the EFL. And out of those 4 years, he had 2 seasons playing regularly, followed by 2 seasons with 17 and 7 appearances.

Andy Taylor - 33 years old, long EFL career with 307 League appearances for various clubs, mostly in League One and also including a full season in The Championship with Sheffield United in 2009-10. Also played for Blackpool.

Mark Yeates - 35 years old, very long career starting in 2002, played 3 times for Spurs. A lot of experience in The Championship and has nearly 400 EFL appearances.

Played in the EFL, but not regularly (two players)

Jordan Williams - aged 27, spent most of his career in non-League, but spent 2 years at Rochdale in League One, playing 11 times in 2017-18 plus a loan spell at Lincoln (League Two) and 19 times in 2018-19, before being released by Rochdale. Not a regularl in the EFL as the vast majority of his career was with Burscough, Northwich Victoria and then Barrow.

Nick Haughton - 25 years old. Vast majority of his career has been in non-League. Though he spent two seasons at Fleetwood between 2014 and 2016, making a total of 40 appearances. Again not a regular in the EFL.

Loan players from EFL clubs with varying experience (three players)

These last three are loan players from EFL sides, so they aren't actual Fylde players. And they will presumably be returning to their parent clubs. Walker and French have just a small number of EFL games between them.

Jamie Proctor - aged 27, played for a number of sides, mostly in League One, but played 16 games in The Championship with Rotherham.

Tom Walker - aged 24, 18 appearances for Bolton in the EFL and 11 for Bury.

Tyler French - 21 years old, two EFL games for Bradford City

Please excuse any errors, no doubt there are some!! And just to point out, this isn't a criticism of Fylde at all nor TTJ, just an observation and response. And I had sod all to do this afternoon and I like being nosey...
 
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Macseasider said:
So we didn't beat Fleetwood.............

Yeah lets go after a local non league team

#embarrassing #grownmen
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This thread was started the day BEFORE we played Fleetwood and it makes me laugh when you say "we", you're one of those (and your family) who happily skipped yourself to Mill Farm to watch them on a regular basis.
 
Bispham_Seasider said:
Ignoring the sarcasm, when I said that I had a scan through their squad last night, rather than a comprehensive check, today I have looked at both wikipedia (which I had quickly scanned through yesterday) and talso the Fylde website. As I have now seen, the wikipedia page is not as up to date as the clubs website, but it is still useful of course to check for appearances. However, it makes little difference in the number of players who regularly played in the EFL.

The Fylde website gives a squad of 24, and these are the players I can find, by cross referencing that and wikipedia, who have played in the EFL. Note that this includes both those who have played regularly in the EFL, which is six players and those who have played short periods in the EFL (two players). And finally there are three loan players from EFL sides, two of whom have little experience in the League.

Played regularly in the EFL (6 players)

Lewis Montrose - aged 31, Lewis played regularly for a few clubs in League Two, though he moved down to the National League North in 2015, to play for Stockport County and has not played in the EFL since 2015.

Alex Whitmore - aged 27, First part of his career he spent being loaned out to non-League sides Chester and Gateshead. Alex spent the 2016-17 season on loan at Morecambe, playing 35 games. In 2017-18 he was on loan at Bury (8 games) and Chesterfield (15 games). Then last season he made 31 appearances for Grimsby. All League Two.

Danny Philliskirk - 28 year old, spent two years at Blackpool, 154 League appearances in 7 years for various clubs, mostly in League One.

Tom Miller - 29 years old, spent most of his career in non-League after a season in the League of Ireland, before 4 years in the EFL with first Carlisle United then one season with Bury. So from 2009 to 2015, League of Ireland and non-League, followed by 4 years in the EFL. And out of those 4 years, he had 2 seasons playing regularly, followed by 2 seasons with 17 and 7 appearances.

Andy Taylor - 33 years old, long EFL career with 307 League appearances for various clubs, mostly in League One and also including a full season in The Championship with Sheffield United in 2009-10. Also played for Blackpool.

Mark Yeates - 35 years old, very long career starting in 2002, played 3 times for Spurs. A lot of experience in The Championship and has nearly 400 EFL appearances.

Played in the EFL, but not regularly (two players)

Jordan Williams - aged 27, spent most of his career in non-League, but spent 2 years at Rochdale in League One, playing 11 times in 2017-18 plus a loan spell at Lincoln (League Two) and 19 times in 2018-19, before being released by Rochdale. Not a regularl in the EFL as the vast majority of his career was with Burscough, Northwich Victoria and then Barrow.

Nick Haughton - 25 years old. Vast majority of his career has been in non-League. Though he spent two seasons at Fleetwood between 2014 and 2016, making a total of 40 appearances. Again not a regular in the EFL.

Loan players from EFL clubs with varying experience (three players)

These last three are loan players from EFL sides, so they aren't actual Fylde players. And they will presumably be returning to their parent clubs. Walker and French have just a small number of EFL games between them.

Jamie Proctor - aged 27, played for a number of sides, mostly in League One, but played 16 games in The Championship with Rotherham.

Tom Walker - aged 24, 18 appearances for Bolton in the EFL and 11 for Bury.

Tyler French - 21 years old, two EFL games for Bradford City

Please excuse any errors, no doubt there are some!! And just to point out, this isn't a criticism of Fylde at all nor TTJ, just an observation and response. And I had sod all to do this afternoon and I like being nosey...
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Not a dig, but if we signed any of those the board would be in meltdown, and not in a good way. Has Philliskirk scored many for Fylde, because he stole a wage off us for years?
 
Wizaard said:
Not a dig, but if we signed any of those the board would be in meltdown, and not in a good way. Has Philliskirk scored many for Fylde, because he stole a wage off us for years?
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From soccerbase, hes scored once this season from 33 League and Cup games. And in total hes made 68 appearances for them (10 as sub) with 4 goals.
 
Really don't know what all the angst is about with other teams, let's concentrate on the fact that we can now go to watch ours & the futures exciting.
 
Gutted for Fylde, I really wanted to have three Blackpool built up area football league clubs. It would of made our area of the uk really different as we have a small population compared to bigger built up areas. I’m sure they’ll make it into the football league...just not for atleast 2 seasons. Big rebuild is needed.
 
TangerineExtremist said:
Gutted for Fylde, I really wanted to have three Blackpool built up area football league clubs. It would of made our area of the uk really different as we have a small population compared to bigger built up areas. I’m sure they’ll make it into the football league...just not for atleast 2 seasons. Big rebuild is needed.
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I take it that was said tongue in cheek.

How would having AFC Kirkham along with Fleetwood in the league benefit Blackpool when all they would be doing is taking in a good few floating fans from us.
 
TangerineExtremist said:
Gutted for Fylde, I really wanted to have three Blackpool built up area football league clubs. It would of made our area of the uk really different as we have a small population compared to bigger built up areas. I’m sure they’ll make it into the football league...just not for atleast 2 seasons. Big rebuild is needed.
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So it's not a built up area and you think it can sustain 3 teams? To compete at the higher levels the area can sustain one. And we all know who it should be.
 
Bispham_Seasider said:
Ignoring the sarcasm, when I said that I had a scan through their squad last night, rather than a comprehensive check, today I have looked at both wikipedia (which I had quickly scanned through yesterday) and talso the Fylde website. As I have now seen, the wikipedia page is not as up to date as the clubs website, but it is still useful of course to check for appearances. However, it makes little difference in the number of players who regularly played in the EFL.

The Fylde website gives a squad of 24, and these are the players I can find, by cross referencing that and wikipedia, who have played in the EFL. Note that this includes both those who have played regularly in the EFL, which is six players and those who have played short periods in the EFL (two players). And finally there are three loan players from EFL sides, two of whom have little experience in the League.

Played regularly in the EFL (6 players)

Lewis Montrose - aged 31, Lewis played regularly for a few clubs in League Two, though he moved down to the National League North in 2015, to play for Stockport County and has not played in the EFL since 2015.

Alex Whitmore - aged 27, First part of his career he spent being loaned out to non-League sides Chester and Gateshead. Alex spent the 2016-17 season on loan at Morecambe, playing 35 games. In 2017-18 he was on loan at Bury (8 games) and Chesterfield (15 games). Then last season he made 31 appearances for Grimsby. All League Two.

Danny Philliskirk - 28 year old, spent two years at Blackpool, 154 League appearances in 7 years for various clubs, mostly in League One.

Tom Miller - 29 years old, spent most of his career in non-League after a season in the League of Ireland, before 4 years in the EFL with first Carlisle United then one season with Bury. So from 2009 to 2015, League of Ireland and non-League, followed by 4 years in the EFL. And out of those 4 years, he had 2 seasons playing regularly, followed by 2 seasons with 17 and 7 appearances.

Andy Taylor - 33 years old, long EFL career with 307 League appearances for various clubs, mostly in League One and also including a full season in The Championship with Sheffield United in 2009-10. Also played for Blackpool.

Mark Yeates - 35 years old, very long career starting in 2002, played 3 times for Spurs. A lot of experience in The Championship and has nearly 400 EFL appearances.

Played in the EFL, but not regularly (two players)

Jordan Williams - aged 27, spent most of his career in non-League, but spent 2 years at Rochdale in League One, playing 11 times in 2017-18 plus a loan spell at Lincoln (League Two) and 19 times in 2018-19, before being released by Rochdale. Not a regularl in the EFL as the vast majority of his career was with Burscough, Northwich Victoria and then Barrow.

Nick Haughton - 25 years old. Vast majority of his career has been in non-League. Though he spent two seasons at Fleetwood between 2014 and 2016, making a total of 40 appearances. Again not a regular in the EFL.

Loan players from EFL clubs with varying experience (three players)

These last three are loan players from EFL sides, so they aren't actual Fylde players. And they will presumably be returning to their parent clubs. Walker and French have just a small number of EFL games between them.

Jamie Proctor - aged 27, played for a number of sides, mostly in League One, but played 16 games in The Championship with Rotherham.

Tom Walker - aged 24, 18 appearances for Bolton in the EFL and 11 for Bury.

Tyler French - 21 years old, two EFL games for Bradford City

Please excuse any errors, no doubt there are some!! And just to point out, this isn't a criticism of Fylde at all nor TTJ, just an observation and response. And I had sod all to do this afternoon and I like being nosey...
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Good piece of research there Bispham. 😊 All you're missing are

Josh Lillis Rochdale

Sam Hornby Port Vale

Neil Byrne Rochdale

So that's 14 players with EFL experience. The point I was making was that no other club in the National league has that kind of in-depth experience and it's not like these are old players so Fylde shouldn't be floundering at the wrong end of the table.
 
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tommytwojags said:
Good piece of research there Bispham. 😊 All you're missing are

Josh Lillis Rochdale

Sam Hornby Port Vale

Neil Byrne Rochdale

So that's 14 players with EFL experience. The point I was making was that no other club in the National league has that kind of in-depth experience and it's not like these are old players so Fylde shouldn't be at the wrong end of the table.
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Aye thing is though you said players with regular EFL experience, not just experience. There is a massive difference as most don't have regular experience and it isn't for the most part in-depth experience either. Maybe it goes to show that it might be better to get NL experience rather than EFL?

Hornby is on loan and played 11 games in 2 years for Port Vale, the rest of his career is non-League.
Neill Byrne - 3 games for Rochdale in 2011, and has spent the rest of his career in non-League.
Josh Lillis isn't on Fyldes website and he only signed, also on loan, two days ago, so hardly relevant.
 
TheHairyClam said:
I take it that was said tongue in cheek.

How would having AFC Kirkham along with Fleetwood in the league benefit Blackpool when all they would be doing is taking in a good few floating fans from us.
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It would benefit the local economy and put the Fylde coast and Blackpool built up area on the map and make it some what of a football hotspot much like greater Manchester or London in terms of the amount of clubs
 
Wizaard said:
So it's not a built up area and you think it can sustain 3 teams? To compete at the higher levels the area can sustain one. And we all know who it should be.
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Kirkham & wesham in my opinion is part of the Blackpool built up area and even if you don’t agree with that it’s still part of the Fylde coast. What I’m saying is, it would benefit the local economy. Also Blackpool fc should be affect by the like of Fleetwood and Fylde as I don’t envision us staying in league one, I want premier league football and we know much support we had in the prem last time we were in it. We sold out every game.
 
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It would benefit the local economy and put the Fylde coast and Blackpool built up area on the map and make it some what of a football hotspot much like greater Manchester or London in terms of the amount of clubs
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Size counts in footballing terms. Longevity at the top is predicated on a big fanbase providing the resources over and above the TV money. That's why teams like Everton are looking to move because they are restricted by the size of their grounds.

Having three teams trying to snatch a bigger share of a limited resource dilutes the opportunity for them all.
 
Wizaard said:
Size counts in footballing terms. Longevity at the top is predicated on a big fanbase providing the resources over and above the TV money. That's why teams like Everton are looking to move because they are restricted by the size of their grounds.

Having three teams trying to snatch a bigger share of a limited resource dilutes the opportunity for them all.
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We’ll be in the prem soon so it won’t matter to us becuase we’ll be selling out every week, so what’s the harm with them being in the football league
 
They still have two games in hand over a few around them, the win last night at Daggers has done wonders, now just 6 points from the drop, and they face Aldershot this Saturday, which is a very winnable fixture. Ebbsfleet face Halifax away and must be a home win for the Yorkshiremen. Maidenhead face an in-form Stockport County so dropped points is on the cards for the southerners. Wrexham away to leaders Barrow and Spirites face an away trek to Dover who could easily take the spoils. Next week could be so much different as long as Bentley keeps Fylde focused.
 
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Averaging around the 1,300 this season, 2016/17 in the NLN average was much higher, averaging 1,800 as away fans didn't have that far to travel.

Should AFC Fylde suffer relegation, a local chap has published this article The AFC Fylde Story Pt4
 
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Wee_Bob said:
Get the feeling that this thread could become our main focus the next 3 weeks 🤔
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If the Prem & Football League is cancelled for the season then it will have a knock on effect down the pyramid. If there's no relegation from L2 then there will be no promotion from the National League.

Then again relegation from the National League might go ahead. 😱
 
I can’t see the problem with going to watch AFC Fylde play - especially if the Pool aren’t playing. They could certainly do with some ’support’ today AND for the rest of the season. It’s a football ‘fix‘ at the end of the day and it’s not as if they pose a major threat to the Pool’s long-term following. I get the impression though, that the Clam thinks they’re going to turn into another Fleetwood. 🤔
 
I recommend you all go down to Mill Farm to watch Fylde today then at least you'll have some basis for all the bollox posted on here 😜
 
With Fylde currently sitting in the relegation spots in the National League, it is an issue of particular significance for Haythornthwaite. “I don’t think we’ll see any more football until it (the pandemic) is over,” he told The Gazette.

“Everything is going to be driven by the Premier League and whatever they decide will determine what happens everywhere else.

“My prediction is that they will give Liverpool the league and I don’t think even Manchester City would argue with that.
“The Premier League clubs will look to protect its own members and say there’s not going to be any relegation. It’s a known fact that if they had their own way, they wouldn’t have an up-and-down system anyway. I think that will follow all the way down and there will be no promotion or relegation in the other leagues.
“The exception potentially is League One, where Bury went out of business and they’re a club short. So they could play another season one short or let one into the EFL, which would probably be Barrow and that would be very hard to argue against.
“Our league would have to decide whether they wanted a season with 23 sides or let one up, which would have to be a play-off between the leaders of the National North and National South.

That would be slightly more complex behind closed doors.
“I think everyone is in a difficult position but that’s what I believe will happen. I think the Premier League will dictate everything and everyone else will follow suit.”
 
Don't see it myself. I think there will be massive legal implications if teams aren't promoted to the PL.
 
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