All these people

It's definitely getting more interesting now all the nations that pack their team with nationals born in other countries have gone out. It's starting to resembling international football again.
 
Missed a lot of the group stage with the early kick offs but from what I've seen in the games where the perceived 'bad guys' have been knocked out it's been decent. But that's usually the same in any tournament, doesn't matter where it is at that point.

Would think it still dies on it's arse for the majority the minute England go out and then most of the complaining and politicking will start up again.

For me I'm not happy with having to cram an extra month of our season in before it and what knock-on effect that has had. Or moreso I bet Appleton and other managers aren't and will be using it as reasons for not being able to compete (like we've seen with the drop off in the extra midweek games). But it is what it is.

Prefer summer tournaments that don't have an impact on anything else.
 
bill40 said:
Rubbish it would have been just as good if played elsewhere and |I'm pretty sure fewer workers would have died. Giving credence to these disgusting theocratic states is a bad move, very bad.
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It would have to start with FIFA thinking yeah it's a bit dodgy we're not going there. But they won't because they're a big events company and don't discriminate as long the money comes in and they hit their targets for it. They've had Wenger in to see if they can get away with doing one a month.
 
A great World Cup which has nothing to do with Qatar or FIFA, We should all be sat in our garden or the pub in our shorts before the match tomorrow,. Instead we:ll have the heating on full blast....
 
If by now people are only just being shocked by how FIFA works in this way then where have they been hiding?!

Russia was going to be a shitfest but Putin had everyone on their best behaviour for a month and that passed over. World Cups always tend to look the same now anyway. You could be watching the same game from at least the last four tournaments for how it's presented.
 
Cheesed Off said:
I think it's possible to despise the process that delivered this absolute circus of corruption in the middle of most countrys seasons AND enjoy the spectacle. The whole situation sucks but this is probably the most fun World Cup I've ever seen.
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Very well put. Add to that the spectacle of Wenger, Beckham and a whole pile of hypocrite pundits sucking on the teat, and Infantino's posturing. The football's been entertaining though 👍
 
I 'm sure that the bereaved families of those construction workers are huddled around their TV's, rejoicing in the feast of football laid on by FIFA and Qatar...

Who needs compensation when the football is this entertaining.
 
Leaving aside the valid points about where it is, how it was awarded and the time of year it’s being played at (the latter is my biggest issue).
It has been very enjoyable in terms of the games being competitive, plenty of goals, the upsets in the group stage etc.
But I wouldn’t say it’s the best ever. It’s missing a really outstanding team for a start, there are probably half a dozen at the same level. I don’t think the winners of this WC will be talked about in the same vein as Brazil 1970, or no player has had an impact anything like Maradona in 1986.
But enjoyable nonetheless
 
Philbfctrois said:
Who bitched and moaned about the World Cup

Some humble pie being eaten

Best World Cuo ever this
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I stand corrected but I don’t recall 6,500 migrant workers being killed in any other World Cup that’s been staged?
Even this week we had one worker killed in the Saudi Arabia camp who fell to his death.
Just Shocking.
Link this with the human rights element and sadly this World Cup will be remembered for all the wrong reasons.
 
borderseasider said:
Nothing to do with the football on show it's where it's being played stupid.
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Of course it's to do with the football. It's the World Cup and some on here are boycotting watching FOOTBALL because of POLITICS. So phil is spot on that people are bitching and moaning about the World Cup.
 
Jaffa_The_Hut said:
I stand corrected but I don’t recall 6,500 migrant workers being killed in any other World Cup that’s been staged?
Even this week we had one worker killed in the Saudi Arabia camp who fell to his death.
Just Shocking.
Link this with the human rights element and sadly this World Cup will be remembered for all the wrong reasons.
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Is there any actual hard evidence that it's 6500 who have been killed because of the construction of stadiums of this World Cup? Think you'll find that the figure is less than 100 DIRECTLY linked to it. So to me, it seems that if some-one died of a heart attack whilst having something to eat it would be classed as one of those 6500 so there's a total manipulation of the figures and the media have jumped on it. That's not to say, there hasn't been serious problems with regards to human rights etc and of course even less than 100 is too many.
 
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20togo said:
Of course it's to do with the football. It's the World Cup and some on here are boycotting watching FOOTBALL because of POLITICS. So phil is spot on that people are bitching and moaning about the World Cup.
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I'd be surprised if people are boycotting watching (30m expected to tune in at 7), they just didn't realise that once it started and you got an ignite that you'd be drawn in.

As I said numerous times the complaints should have been made more vocally when they were awarded it.

You'd also hope when it's over that countries would talk to each other and present a united front complaint to FIFA and demand explainations and the like.
 
fcblackpool said:
I'd be surprised if people are boycotting watching (30m expected to tune in at 7), they just didn't realise that once it started and you got an ignite that you'd be drawn in.

As I said numerous times the complaints should have been made more vocally when they were awarded it.

You'd also hope when it's over that countries would talk to each other and present a united front complaint to FIFA and demand explainations and the like.
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yes, I agree especially with your last point. But that said, it's perhaps only western European nations that are making such a big issue out of it. And there's certainly some on here boycotting it.
 
20togo said:
Is there any actual hard evidence that it's 6500 who have been killed because of the construction of stadiums of this World Cup? Think you'll find that the figure is less than 100 DIRECTLY linked to it. So to me, it seems that if some-one died of a heart attack whilst having something to eat it would be classed as one of those 6500 so there's a total manipulation of the figures and the media have jumped on it. That's not to say, there hasn't been serious problems with regards to human rights etc and of course even less than 100 is too many.
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20togo said:
Is there any actual hard evidence that it's 6500 who have been killed because of the construction of stadiums of this World Cup? Think you'll find that the figure is less than 100 DIRECTLY linked to it. So to me, it seems that if some-one died of a heart attack whilst having something to eat it would be classed as one of those 6500 so there's a total manipulation of the figures and the media have jumped on it. That's not to say, there hasn't been serious problems with regards to human rights etc and of course even less than 100 is too many.
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You can choose from anyone of dozens of news papers or media news outlets but they all say the same 6,500 migrant workers have died constructing the stadiums since Qatar was awarded the World Cup 10 years ago.
 
Jaffa_The_Hut said:
You can choose from anyone of dozens of news papers or media news outlets but they all say the same 6,500 migrant workers have died constructing the stadiums since Qatar was awarded the World Cup 10 years ago.
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they all say, but can't provide hard evidence. One says it. they'll all say it. 6500 imo is a very large number and frankly I don't believe it. They will pick something like that up from human rights groups who will obviously accentuate and inflate the numbers to highlight the problem. Like I said, some-one could be off duty not working but if he died doing something else, they'd attribute it to the numbers. I've seen the headlines. but no hard evidence. You only have to read the article to cast serious doubt on its accuracy.
 
20togo said:
they all say, but can't provide hard evidence. One says it. they'll all say it. 6500 imo is a very large number and frankly I don't believe it. They will pick something like that up from human rights groups who will obviously accentuate and inflate the numbers to highlight the problem. Like I said, some-one could be off duty not working but if he died doing something else, they'd attribute it to the numbers. Sorry, but no hard evidence.
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So your saying as long as it’s not 6,500 it’s acceptable?

One death is too many but as we all know (some are denial) it’s into the thousands.

And not one Contractor has so far been prosecuted or a penny paid out in compensation to grieved families which is just shocking.

I just can’t believe some people are saying it’s the best World Cup ever.
 
Jaffa_The_Hut said:
So your saying as long as it’s not 6,500 it’s acceptable?

One death is too many but as we all know (some are denial) it’s into the thousands.
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C'mon read my posts properly. I said this. "That's not to say, there hasn't been serious problems with regards to human rights etc and of course even less than 100 is too many."
 
20togo said:
C'mon read my posts properly. I said this. "That's not to say, there hasn't been serious problems with regards to human rights etc and of course even less than 100 is too many."
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I really think the human rights issue is way way behind the number of deaths this event has caused.
But it’s there and you can’t shy away from it saying the football is great, you can’t separate the two I’am afraid.
 
It’s been decent for sure, helped for me watching the vast majority on Brazilian TV and not having to put up with the often terrible and tedious Uk punditry.

Seeing from a different country’s perspective is highly enjoyable and enlightening, it’s a shame more people don’t get the opportunity to doo so, it may help prevent them from posting such utter shite about stuff they know very little about!
 
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