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This will endear her to the voting public. Well it will to a few on here
What are your thoughts on our Prime Minister calling Africans Picanninnies? How do you think that fits on an international stage?This woman could end up representing the UK on the international stage you cannot be serious.
This woman could end up representing the UK on the international stage you cannot be serious.
I’m pretty sure if and when the shoe is on the other foot the faux outrage spills out. IMO it’s completely unprofessional. The second you start being abusive the public just switch off. Potty mouth.A straight talking and honest politician - that’s an absolute disgrace!!
On the plus side she's not calling anyone a 'fishwife' on an obscure football message board.Kier Startled does’nt really want her in his team but has been railroaded by Momentum and the unions into keeping her on. If she auditioned for a tv role as a fishwife she would fit the part perfectly.
Bang on fella. The Labour Party must rise above the pathetic attack on personality and educational background... it might appeal to staunch supporters ( plenty on here) but it will not persuade middle ground voters.... they have to move on from their “ we know best, you must be thick for the way you’ve previously voted” mantra. They must truly value voters who have abandoned them. We can all see how incompetent the Tories appear to be at times but it takes one hell of an incompetent opposition to continually allow them a free hit at the polls!A fine example of why the Labour party are becoming increasingly irrelevant. The Labour party most certainly including the deputy should be concentrating on policy and encouraging the electorate to vote for them. Yet Raynor continues with Starmers policy of attacking the tories and their sleaze (yes it is right to do so but it is now a well worn path that has got them nowhere) They now need to use their brains and offer us a more attractive alternative through well thought out policies that appeal to a large section of society. I do not remember this woman fighting against the wicked anti-semitism that dogged this once proud party or attack the momentum brownshirts who attacked Jewish labour mps -hypocrisy in the extreme.
This hits the nail on the head. For so long the Labour party which i once thought the world off has been taken over by second rate politicians , sometimes with hate in their heart such as Raynor, corbyn, abbott and Mcdonnell. They have little idea of their constituents concerns and needs and care even less. They think they know best when they actually really do not.they have to move on from their “ we know best, you must be thick for the way you’ve previously voted” mantra. They must truly value voters who have abandoned them. We can all see how incompetent the Tories appear to be at times but it takes one hell of an incompetent opposition to continually allow them a free hit at the polls!
I do not think he can sack her, as she was elected to the post of deputy?Kier Startled does’nt really want her in his team but has been railroaded by Momentum and the unions into keeping her on. If she auditioned for a tv role as a fishwife she would fit the part perfectly.
Sounds much more like Boris Johnson than Labour.It's depressing that this is all Labour and the left has to offer, lies and foul abuse instead of policies and ideas.
Maybe your time will be better spent... doing your laundry, setting lessons for year 9 ... then posting same old same old or you could contribute in a more constructive manner.Sounds much more like Boris Johnson than Labour.
Sounds much more like Boris Johnson than Labour.
The only constructive outcome for the country would be getting rid of this incompetent corrupt government.
If you actually understood the things you post about you wouldn't post such ignorant nonsense.Kier Startled does’nt really want her in his team but has been railroaded by Momentum and the unions into keeping her on. If she auditioned for a tv role as a fishwife she would fit the part perfectly.
Incompetent.Replace the government with what another corrupt incompetant Labour government?
The problem is that this brain-dead tirade doesn't do working-class women any favours. It reinforces Southern middle-class stereotypes about the Northern working-class and will only hurt the Labour Party.OMFG - A WORKING CLASS WOMAN!!!!
HOW DARE SHE BE STRAIGHT TALKING!!!!
I can't be arsed with some kind of weird google through old threads because that's the preserve of strange people but I would bet a penny to a pound that some of the people who slate her have, at some point or other praised some tory bloke for 'telling it as it is' or defending him with a phrase like 'the left just can't stand the truth being spoken' or something.
If it was some oily careerist business type laying into people with no right to reply (single mums/migrants/whatever) then no one would bat an eyelid and anyone who did would be 'a wokist snowflake'
How dare a working class woman pick on such poor defenceless mites as the Tory party?
The problem is that this brain-dead tirade doesn't do working-class women any favours. It reinforces Southern middle-class stereotypes about the Northern working-class and will only hurt the Labour Party.
It's great that someone like Rayner can get to the position in public life that she has. It's not great that she can't control herself enough to maximise that opportunity for herself or her ideas.
Angela Raynor is the deputy leader of the Labour party, as such it is her responsibility to provide leadership to a party that has become increasingly irrelevant to the electorate. Many including myself are crying out for political change and would like to see once again a strong Labour party capable of developing strong policies that benefit many in society, and therefore have a realistic chance of winning elections. The hard left deeply damaged the party but advances cannot be made if all the party are capable of is abuse ( even if some is correct). What she should be shouting about is clear well thought ideas that can have a positive impact on lives. This is why so many of us get frustrated.Truly shocking comments from Ms Rayner.
The next thing you know she’ll be singing about scum from a central Lancs town and advocating extreme violence with your father’s gun.
Taking my lead from the throwing missiles thread I think anyone using the S word should face a
Life ban from politics AND football.
I'm not sure 'dignified silence' is the stereotype here... I think it's more of the 'fishwife' variety. So Rayner doesn't do the North, the working class or women any favours by basically acting like a fishwife.Yes, to an extent, it's not exactly a nuanced speech, I appreciate that, but equally we're stuck with those recycled stereotypes until someone breaks them. I think, it is, to an extent a case of women (and especially working class ones) should behave in a certain way and that way should not be undignified. Had it been, I dunno, Javid or Gove saying 'this opposition of loony lefties with their bleeding heart stupidity' and a load of young tories boorishly cheering, I don't think anyone would make a thing of it.
Rayner is precisely what Labour need. Someone with identity and an actually bona fide life story that isn't 'so I went to University and I found Marx on my gap year yeah? Then, I realised that wouldn't get me anywhere so I watered down my convictions until I got to a point where I could be a credible politician. So I know what life is like for people you see. What you need is a .03% lower cut in benefits than the mean old Tories. Vote labour!'
That's the point. It's all about polite society semantics. An oily business man saying "single mothers are feckless and a drain on our society" is fine. Even though it's just polite code for "thick selfish slags"I'm not sure 'dignified silence' is the stereotype here... I think it's more of the 'fishwife' variety. So Rayner doesn't do the North, the working class or women any favours by basically acting like a fishwife.
I doubt you - or anyone on this board - calls people 'scum' in a professional capacity. In fact, most people probably wouldn't want to work with a colleague who acted like that. Given the rarefied atmosphere that Rayner operates in, the fact that she doesn't get this shows how unsuited she is for her position.
And Asian women in burqas letter boxes?What are your thoughts on our Prime Minister calling Africans Picanninnies? How do you think that fits on an international stage?
Now what shall we do with the Herrings heads?
What shall we do with the herrings heads?
We'll make them into loaves of bread.
Herrings Heads, Loaves of Bread and all sorts of things.
Off all the fish that's in the sea,
The Herring is the fish for me,
Hey, falde re de ri do ro
Sing fal de re de ri de re.
The First verse of a fishwives song as they gutted herring.
Clearly made comments knowing they would cause an uproar to appeal to the left of the party knowing that Starmer would be asked to condemn her comments (which he has done) therefore further driving a wedge between both Starmer and Rayner.
She clearly has her sights on the leadership, Starmer needs a good conference to press on this year, because if he doesn’t there will be a leadership challenge at some point.
Problem is, as labour and particularly their Northern MP’s seems to forget is when they label the Tory politicians scum etc, they are lambasting the people in the old red wall who voted for them, giving the tories another open goal. They never learn
He missed out scruffyBoris wrote in the Spectator in 1995 "Working class men are likely to be drunk, criminal, aimless, feckless & hopeless. And perhaps claim to suffer from low self-esteem, brought on by unemployment.”
Did he have a point?