BST statement

JJpool said:
Well they are on here so can see this surely.

Also it needs the club to push an initiative such as this.

We have no idea the prices, we don't even know if they want to do this. If they don't go with a lower priced strategy they'll be nothing worth leaflet dropping.

It's up to them, in conjunction with supporter groups, to design leaflets, although it's not hard to do, but they have a marketing department, they won't outsource to some bloke on a forum.

If an initiative ever gets off the ground I'm sure @basilrobbie3 and @BlackpoolSupportersTrust will glady get involved.

If volunteers for delivering are required I'd do some.

BST have already called for cheaper tickets, so it all rests with the club.

What I'm proposing isn't rocket science, the nobbers did it recently, but you have to have a deal worth selling.
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Leaflet dropping 🤣

This is a football club not a takeaway FFS
 
JJpool said:
Well they are on here so can see this surely.

Also it needs the club to push an initiative such as this.

We have no idea the prices, we don't even know if they want to do this. If they don't go with a lower priced strategy they'll be nothing worth leaflet dropping.

It's up to them, in conjunction with supporter groups, to design leaflets, although it's not hard to do, but they have a marketing department, they won't outsource to some bloke on a forum.

If an initiative ever gets off the ground I'm sure @basilrobbie3 and @BlackpoolSupportersTrust will glady get involved.

If volunteers for delivering are required I'd do some.

BST have already called for cheaper tickets, so it all rests with the club.

What I'm proposing isn't rocket science, the nobbers did it recently, but you have to have a deal worth selling.
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Why not volunteer your time to BST and try and make a difference?
 
Simonized said:
I would bet 90% of them went to kids from deprived backgrounds and even if their parents are Blackpool born and bred you still have to overcome parent apathy and the willingness to be bothered to go themselves and that's on top of the cost.

Perhaps they could put the shirt on eBay to fund the cost of going to a match then it might work.
Unless you can directly incentivise the parents it's never going to work.....

Dress it up how you like but it's a marketing disaster on so many levels and the people who came up with the idea should think a bit more about how they spend other people's money.

I won't be renewing when my membership runs out.
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The membership voted to fund this initiative and it was as I recall targeted at the specific age group where football allegiance is recognised as first developing
 
TwelveAngryMen said:
The membership voted to fund this initiative and it was as I recall targeted at the specific age group where football allegiance is recognised as first developing
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How many people voted Tim?

I would also be interested in the demographic of the people who voted for this as well
 
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Blackpool_Rox said:
According to 1sports1 BFC spent just over £5m and were 23rd with only Rotherham spending less on wages in the 22/23 season. Link below.

www.1sports1.com

EFL Championship 2022-23: All 24 Clubs Ranked On Wage Bill - 1SPORTS1

In this article, we have the Championship clubs ranked on the wage bill. Even though there is a huge difference in the money spent
www.1sports1.com www.1sports1.com

Not sure accurate these figures are - a few other sites give different figures but they are in general agreement that Rotherham Coventry Blackpool and Luton had the smallest budgets.

Rather than having the best hand of cards its all about playing the cards the best way we can - Luton are a good example + I wonder where we were in the wages league table when we achieved promotion in 2009 / 2010 season …..
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Spot on, both Luton and Coventry both in with a shout of Premiership football and less we forget our very own Championship promotion side.
 
Fields-Of-Gold said:
Leaflet dropping 🤣

This is a football club not a takeaway FFS
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I see the point he's trying to make. Bit like the promotions they did at Knob End with bus advertising and leaflets around the PR areas. So I wouldn't dismiss it as it certainly increased there season tickets. I acknowledge the price of tickets being cheap, but the campaign worked .
 
The loss of 7 millon pounds is purely down to horrendous decisions made by the board and lack of investment in the squad during the previous three transfer windows. Reliance on young loanees with no Championship experiece was definitely not the answer. In fact our loans during the Oyston era were much better, Adam, Shelvey, Hoolahan and Coleman to name a few!
 
Seasider1 said:
Spot on, both Luton and Coventry both in with a shout of Premiership football and less we forget our very own Championship promotion side.
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Luton and Coventry are good examples to follow, stable(-ish) management and good player recruitment. At Luton, when Nathan Jones left they reacted quickly and got Rob Edwards in a seamless transition.
 
BFC_53 said:
Sorry, but people are questioning whether BST have consulted all its members on the wording of a statement, but apparently according to some it's perfectly fine allowing a single fan, who most of the fanbase don't know or have ever even met, access to the players to give them a speech.
Ridiculous.
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Yep, its purely because of the individuals involved, had BST sent someone to talk to the players there would have been uproar despite that being at least a little more democratic.
 
JJpool said:
It works, do you have better ways?

Come on, let's hear all your wonderful ideas.
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Turn in the silly pointless ideas for a start 👍

For what the shirt initiative cost! BST should just offer to pay 2 weeks wages on 2 decent players because clearly Mr Sadler isn't willing hence we are playing League 1 football again 🤷
 
JJpool said:
That's the point it's hard to say what impact its had, it's unlikely to get hundreds of kids who didn't care before and have parents supporting other sides to rush down instantly, but I'd view it as a step in putting Blackpool fc into the minds of the community.

Whether doing this or just upping it's presence in the community in other ways, it's something that needs to happen.

I've been saying to leaflet drop the area. It may be that if such a good deal for new fans was done, that some who received a shirt decide to give it a go. Its hard to say how much 'advertising' affects people when we don't know their thoughts before.

Either way it'll take time, an attractive price point and some relative success preferably to attract new fans from the area.

I don't mind that they gave this a go.
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Fuck me, do you own a printing company or something? I've never seen anybody as obsessed with leaflets as you 😂
 
seasideone said:
Yes he is, but he is writing it as his view and not a view from the BST Committee.

In reality you would expect the views to be close together, but there is a clear difference.

Edit to add: by difference I mean which hat he has on, and not necessarily the views.
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Lytham_fy8 said:
Yep, its purely because of the individuals involved, had BST sent someone to talk to the players there would have been uproar despite that being at least a little more democratic.
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Didn't the BST Chairman go to the meeting with the players?
 
Mark_GT said:
Before anyone gets too exercised by this one it's all been reported before. Andy attended on request from Brett and in a personal capacity.
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I know it's been reported before and I'm not sure he can attend something like that in a personal capacity given his position? I would imagine Brett requested his presence because of his position?
 
Loco said:
I know it's been reported before and I'm not sure he can attend something like that in a personal capacity given his position? I would imagine Brett requested his presence because of his position?
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No Loco that was not the case. Pop in the Armfield and ask Andy yourself if unsure. You won't meet a more genuine and genial bloke. There's been some challenging stuff on this thread today and yesterday and I really hope some posters aren't just looking to cause problems for people just doing their level best.
 
Loco said:
I know it's been reported before and I'm not sure he can attend something like that in a personal capacity given his position? I would imagine Brett requested his presence because of his position?
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I also remember BST getting pelters because this was seen as a MSG initiative. Lots of posts along the lines of “What’s the point of BST?”

Now people are getting their necks in a knot because they think BST was involved after all. 😂 😆
 
seasideone said:
Why not volunteer your time to BST and try and make a difference?
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Why are you trying to volunteer somebody else's time away? Odd behaviour. Do you know what time I have?

I have put forward a suggestion, like many do on here. It needs the club to lead and they'd need a price worth marketing.

I've said if such a campaign got going I'd do a bit.
 
Mark_GT said:
No Loco that was not the case. Pop in the Armfield and ask Andy yourself if unsure. You won't meet a more genuine and genial bloke. There's been some challenging stuff on this thread today and yesterday and I really hope some posters aren't just looking to cause problems for people just doing their level best.
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I'm not looking to cause problems but the head of a Supporters' Trust just cannot go to a meeting like that, at the football club, in a personal capacity.
 
Briggs5 said:
Fuck me, do you own a printing company or something? I've never seen anybody as obsessed with leaflets as you 😂
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Well I don't see the club capitalising or being inventive in ways to attract new fans, nor has there been a price point that'll fill the stadium.

I suppose we can just sit back and hope people randomly turn up...
 
Martonmosser said:
Why not? He’s a fan like the rest of as well as one of Raggy’s friends

I'm not saying he shouldn't go, I'm just saying that as the head of BST, it can't be in a personal capacity. He has a responsibility to the membership.
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Mark_GT said:
Before anyone gets too exercised by this one it's all been reported before. Andy attended on request from Brett and in a personal capacity.
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I think that’s what’s starting to worry me Mark and what I alluded to in an earlier post. No problem with Andy, don’t know him personally - he seems a really nice guy and is Blackpool through and through but “asked to attend in a personal capacity” suggests the committee are perhaps a little too friendly with the directors when BST should be arms length - and that goes for all the committee, not just singling out Rox.
 
Southshoresteve said:
I think that’s what’s starting to worry me Mark and what I alluded to in an earlier post. No problem with Andy, don’t know him personally - he seems a really nice guy and is Blackpool through and through but “asked to attend in a personal capacity” suggests the committee are perhaps a little too friendly with the directors when BST should be arms length - and that goes for all the committee, not just singling out Rox.
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The invite was as a matter of courtesy I imagine. Otherwise the club would’ve been accused of favouring one supporters group over another.

And as I’ve already said, when this was originally seen as an exclusively MSG initiative BST for pelters because people thought they weren’t involved. So damned if they do. And damned if they don’t.

Personally I think Andy attending in a personal capacity was quite clever. BST get kudos for being at the table. At the same time as being able to distance themselves as an organisation and say “well actually we weren’t there”.
 
Mexboroseasider said:
Personally I think Andy attending in a personal capacity was quite clever. BST get kudos for being at the table. At the same time as being able to distance themselves as an organisation and say “well actually we weren’t there”.
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Shades of Boris 😂
 
Mexboroseasider said:
The invite was as a matter of courtesy I imagine. Otherwise the club would’ve been accused of favouring one supporters group over another.

And as I’ve already said, when this was originally seen as an exclusively MSG initiative BST for pelters because people thought they weren’t involved. So damned if they do. And damned if they don’t.

Personally I think Andy attending in a personal capacity was quite clever. BST get kudos for being at the table. At the same time as being able to distance themselves as an organisation and say “well actually we weren’t there”.
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Sorry but I have to disagree - It’s either in a personal capacity or It isn’t. If it is, then fair enough but you can’t then say “BST get kudos for being at the table”
 
Lala said:
Why would Raggy’s business partner be invited 🤣 I don’t think that can be classed as a valid reason for an invite TAM. You might aswell have invited his wife, his dog or his postman 😆
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You’d have to ask Brett but being as there is quite a lot of interaction between the Club and the Arndale ( sic ) it’s not that surprising
Brett asked
Andy accepted
 
TwelveAngryMen said:
You’d have to ask Brett but being as there is quite a lot of interaction between the Club and the Arndale ( sic ) it’s not that surprising
Brett asked
Andy accepted
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Not having that. Raggy was supposedly there as a (super) fan. If it’s now been suggested he was there in a business capacity then that is getting ridiculous. The business partner excuse must carry no weight at all.
 
Lala said:
Not having that. Raggy was supposedly there as a (super) fan. If it’s now been suggested he was there in a business capacity then that is getting ridiculous l. The business partner excuse must carry no weight at all.
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I’m not sure why you’re blaming BST for an invite sent by a member of the board of BFC.

I was going to say “why don’t you ask the board?”

And then remembered there isn’t one. 😂
 
Mexboroseasider said:
I’m not sure why you’re blaming BST for an invite sent by a member of the board of BFC.

I was going to say “why don’t you ask the board?”

And then remembered there isn’t one. 😂
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I’m not blaming BST for anything. I’ve had no input in this thread until now.
The business partner trick drew me in though because it’s a bloody nonsense.

We now have 3 reasons why he was there:-

As a BST rep

A personal capacity

As a business man

Nobody seems to know the answer which is a bit odd in itself 🤦‍♀️
 
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