Chris Badlan gone

Can I just say I really miss Neil Critchley?! I'll come to Badlan in a bit.

Because we were a bit of a shambles pre Critchley and we've been a bit of a shambles post Critchley. Quite a few people on here were dissing him before he left. Some fans turn on people regardless of how good a job they have done. We've seen it before.

Anyway the point I want to make is that we haven't made enough good football appointments since SS took over. Including Badlan, probably. In fact you might argue that Critchley has been the only one. Mansford is an administrator. I wouldn't be asking him to select football people. If that is what he does I think it's a bit odd. Especially if SS and Gerrity are also involved. Let Mansford sort out the east stand and training ground, player contracts etc. He's probably will equipped to do that sort of stuff. He doesn't know how to find head coaches it seems.

Grayson, Appleton and McCarthy are the same mistake, times three. It looks like a desire to avoid risk, but it's really poor decision making. Grayson was obviously not in a good place after Sunderland and hasn't recovered. A spent force. Appleton was not in a good place after cancer and Lincoln. A spent force in need of recuperation. McCarthy was in a golf and grandparent place. Fully ensconced in relaxation and retirement. And all three are old school and behind the curve. It would have been less risky to take a bigger risk than these three. They need to stop thinking they have the skills between them to make these decisions because they clearly don't.

Badlan and his sidekick were odd appointments too for me. We don't sign people like Gyokeres and O'Hare cos we are lower budget. Most of our current players have been identified by Critchley and Appleton I reckon. When Badlan arrived i imagined him handing lists to Mansford, and Mansford going back to him later asking for more names. "We can't agree terms with those." And us getting Appleton loans instead.

And why was it a shock to them that Critchley, after two very good first seasons in management and a period running Liverpool's academy, got a job offer with a huge pay rise that he couldn't refuse? Which resulted in the biggest mistake to date. Critch wasn't a natural fit for us, long term.

However. Sadler is our owner. He wants to do the right thing. He's a decent guy. He's learning on the job. He's repaired lots of damage and funded us through Covid. He has planned investment. He got us promoted quickly. He's a million miles from what we had before for 30 years and longer and we should be careful what we wish for. He just needs to wise up in recruitment terms. Somehow.

In the real world though it can be hard to find the right people when you need them. And they can disappear overnight. It's not easy. As a fanbase we expect our club to punch above its weight. Unreasonably. Then crucify people if they fail to achieve that standard.

Three clubs have to go down and we have one of the lowest budgets. So nature is having its wicked way. Assisted by a hierarchy that isnt functioning well, in terms of on field performance, it would appear. Partly cos it's a very difficult task running a football club in the English pyramid given the finances of the pyramid and the way it is run. Dodgy owners and money and contracts etc. we are punching upwards against opponents who don't all play by the rules and or have significantly bigger budgets. Could anyone else do better? Who? Are they prepared to take the plunge, take the flak and dip into their savings?

SS and co could do better certainly. They seem to be making the recruitment decisions, in a field of work they lack experience of, and the decisions tend to be based on fear, possibly. They look for the experience of Grayson ,Appleton and McCarthy but overlook the warning signs. Grayson's shot confidence, Appleton's cancer recovery and McCarthy's golf course retirement demeanour. Lack of rigour and lack of instinct. Think clearly. Examine the person and where they are at right now in the moment of recruitment. We don't have the funds to cherry pick, but we can do better by looking for the right skill set and the right energy. Like Critchley. Like Evatt.

I do also wonder if our fan base puts people off applying for the head coach job. Appleton looked scared, McCarthy even seemed wary based on previous experience at Bloomfield Rd. Critchley looked wary even though he was doing well. Mid table security first season wasn't enough for some. We needed more style, more goals and a play off push. When we tailed off after safety was assured the knives came out. Our fans don't help and I would never choose to own or run a football club. Especially one with a slightly unhinged, overly expectant, kind of adolescent bullying element in its fanbase. A mixed blessing set of supporters. With remnants still of a protest mentality, perhaps?

We need more emotional stability. Less fear. Smarter recruitment. Clarity of vision. Realistic expectations. Continuity.

Critchley was a good appointment but he was never really comfortable. He came from a very different culture. He wasn't going to stay here once a big pay rise was offered, at a better resourced club. You have to assess potential key employees for their ability to thrive within and enjoy the culture. It's one of the factors to take into account. You have to assess their energy. Grayson arrived drained. Critch arrived full of energy and confidence. Appleton arrived drained and a bit in denial of his past and his health situation. McCarthy arrived marking his scorecard, with a boot full of golf gear and his grandkids overnight bags. All these things can be spotted when you talk to people, if you listen and watch and take your time. And you know what you are doing. Evatt had the energy, he was starting his management career impressively, and he knows the culture at our club and saw how it could thrive, under Holloway, by using that culture as a positive. And he wanted to come here. Commitment. I was annoyed about the club's dismissal of him at the time.
Well Voy I thought that was a very well thought out "short story". 😉
As much as it pains me in some ways to want Quitch back I'm starting to think I do.
Rather than look for someone like him, which is a risk, why not bring back the original. I know there are some employees at the Club that would welcome him. (They told me in the pub 🤣)
I think he'd probably need to do the "walk of shame" down Bloomfield Rd first so we could pelt him with rotten eggs, tangerines and some (bull)shit.
Of course bringing managers back has proved to be the absolute wrong thing to do but there is the expression "3rd time lucky".
 
So we know Badlan leaked the team. Obviously wrong to do so? Sacking on the spot*? Some say yes, I'd say no given the job he needs to do- a massive fine and slap would have done for me.

So what now? Another fuck up of an appointment? The job needs to be filled quickly and I can only presume that if they thought Critchley leaving was a surprise then this is ghost train stuff. A panic in, or will they even bring someone in, given L1 beckons?

Perhaps the leak was a most convenient opportunity to a) lose wages for L1 and b) BBM to strengthen his position in the face of criticism.

Nothing is straightforward round here.

*The biggest crime wasn't leaking the team but picking it and that ** gets away Irish free.
It’s not just about leaking the team. There’s other factors which will probably never come out.
 
Well Voy I thought that was a very well thought out "short story". 😉
As much as it pains me in some ways to want Quitch back I'm starting to think I do.
Rather than look for someone like him, which is a risk, why not bring back the original. I know there are some employees at the Club that would welcome him. (They told me in the pub 🤣)
I think he'd probably need to do the "walk of shame" down Bloomfield Rd first so we could pelt him with rotten eggs, tangerines and some (bull)shit.
Of course bringing managers back has proved to be the absolute wrong thing to do but there is the expression "3rd time lucky".
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I never realised the team was revealed on a Friday before a Saturday match, always thought it was on the day of the game after breakfast to keep everybody on their toes. When Fiorini and Poveda disappeared after finding out they weren’t even on the subs bench that was a couple of hours before the kick off.

Badlan or even the Pool supporter cannot say they guessed that team, there isn’t a Pool supporter alive who could ever accurately guess a McCarthy starting X1 for any game never mind the names of the substitutes.

There is mention of the damage this leak has done to the Club which I fully accept. However there is nobody on the BFC Payroll currently doing more collateral damage to the Club than Mick McCarthy who seems to be completely untouchable which is just like Blackpool’s permanent position in the relegation zone is fast becoming. McCarthy has delivered the same number of points (9) as Reading (6) and Wigan (3) have been deducted but despite this unexpected bonus we are still no nearer safety.

Simon Sadler is a very successful Hedge Fund Manager, which suggests he is decisive and not risk averse. Regarding Blackpool FC it is now time he stopped hedging his bets with some other members of his staff and to also announce additional funding to either keep us in the Championship next season or to mount a serious promotion challenge if we do end up in Div 1.
 
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I never realised the team was revealed on a Friday before a Saturday match, always thought it was on the day of the game after breakfast to keep everybody on their toes. When Fiorini and Poveda disappeared after finding out they weren’t even on the subs bench that was a couple of hours before the kick off.

Badlan or even the Pool supporter cannot say they guessed that team, there isn’t a Pool supporter alive who could ever accurately guess a McCarthy starting X1 for any game never mind the names of the substitutes.

There is mention of the damage this leak has done to the Club which I fully accept. However there is nobody on the BFC Payroll currently doing more collateral damage to the Club than Mick McCarthy who seems to be completely untouchable which is just like Blackpool’s permanent position in the relegation zone is fast becoming. McCarthy has delivered the same number of points (9) as Reading (6) and Wigan (3) have been deducted but despite this unexpected bonus we are still no nearer safety.

Simon Sadier is a very successful Hedge Fund Manager, which suggests he is decisive and not risk averse. Regarding Blackpool FC it is now time he stopped hedging his bets with some other members of his staff and to also announce additional funding to either keep us in the Championship next season or to mount a serious promotion challenge if we do end up in Div 1.
I think we've seen those figures. It's something like £3m ish in Championship and £6m ish in League 1. They are on the messageboard somewhere.
 
I think we've seen those figures. It's something like £3m ish in Championship and £6m ish in League 1. They are on the messageboard somewhere.
Yes you are right I have seen those figures but in Div 1 those financial contributions from Simon also assume a significant reduction in the budget for players’ wages compared to the budget for players’s wages this season. This will trigger mass departures in May/June and a huge number of players required to be recruited in the summer transfer window together with a new Manager and coaching staff. A complete clear out could well be the right thing to do but it doesn’t feel we will have a stable squad which we can add a few players to each window especially if we yo yo between Div 1 and the Championship. Most Clubs who want to be consistently successful seek stability in terms of the Manager, coaches, support staff and most importantly the players, large numbers of changes each year make that objective far more difficult to achieve. Also with our player wages budget (bottom 4 in the Championship) and (top half of Div 1) will make it more difficult to make wholesale changes in one transfer window and improve the overall quality of the squad,
 
Yes you are right I have seen those figures but in Div 1 those financial contributions from Simon also assume a significant reduction in the budget for players’ wages compared to the budget for players’s wages this season. This will trigger mass departures in May/June and a huge number of players required to be recruited in the summer transfer window together with a new Manager and coaching staff. A complete clear out could well be the right thing to do but it doesn’t feel we will have a stable squad which we can add a few players to each window especially if we yo yo between Div 1 and the Championship. Most Clubs who want to be consistently successful seek stability in terms of the Manager, coaches, support staff and most importantly the players, large numbers of changes each year make that objective far more difficult to achieve. Also with our player wages budget (bottom 4 in the Championship) and (top half of Div 1) will make it more difficult to make wholesale changes in one transfer window and improve the overall quality of the squad,
Stability (in Managerial / Head Coach ) terms is simply not a realistic objective in my view. To that extent, I think we have got the 'general' theoretical approach (i.e. the separation of recruitment and, at least up until this season, some clarity over our style of play) right. Obviously that fell down when Critchley left and showed that whilst the theory was great, we hadn't really taken the practical measures to create resilience for when the inevitable happens and a HC / Manager departs... (On average that will happen every 2.5 years).

There's a couple of things I think we need to do in that regard...

Firstly, I think we should appoint Steve Thompson (assuming he would want to come along) and maybe Steve could have a combined role that involved both ensuring that we maintained a sense of technical continuity in the way we play football across (Youth, Development and First Team Squads) as well as from Head Coach to Head Coach, but also as someone who could bridge the temporary gap and ensure continuity, during the periods where we find ourselves 'between' managers.

Secondly, I think we should stick rigorously to the 'style of play' requirements for the club and ensure that we are meticulous in recruiting both Head Coaches and Players who 'FIT'. That should apply across the board (Youth, Dev & First Team) and is again an area where I think Steve would be helpful, though I do think we need a head of recruitment and that is not the role for him. We cannot afford to be swayed in regard to the style / type of manager we appoint and for me THAT is precisely where we went wrong this season (time pressures and the need to appoint someone left us compromising).

On the squad front, it's difficult when you are trying to create enough flexibility to function and gain promotion from L1, whilst also ensuring you can develop the squad sufficiently, should you achieve the objective. Over time, I think that's where strengthening the Youth and Development squads will reap some benefits.

As things stand, It's hard to see who will still be here come next season... If we are talking L1 then we have players like Owen Dale & Jake Beesley, who haven't even feature for us this season, but will certainly be strong contenders in the League below... I think Husband, Lyons, Thompson, Marv are all likely to be here... We may come under pressure for Gabriel and Jerry, might lose Keshi... Bridcutt & Stewart will be off, which opens up some budget that's been wasted for this season at least... Lavery will probably stay..

Who knows we might see some ambitious signings?? Are Rogers and Fiorini here with a view to a purchase? Could that still happen if we drop down a level? It's been mooted we might be looking at signing Rhys Williams permanently ?
 
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Stability (in Managerial / Head Coach ) terms is simply not a realistic objective in my view. To that extent, I think we have got the 'general' theoretical approach (i.e. the separation of recruitment and, at least up until this season, some clarity over our style of play) right. Obviously that fell down when Critchley left and showed that whilst the theory was great, we hadn't really taken the practical measures to create resilience for when the inevitable happens and a HC / Manager departs... (On average that will happen every 2.5 years).

There's a couple of things I think we need to do in that regard...

Firstly, I think we should appoint Steve Thompson (assuming he would want to come along) and maybe Steve could have a combined role that involved both ensuring that we maintained a sense of technical continuity in the way we play football across (Youth, Development and First Team Squads) as well as from Head Coach to Head Coach, but also as someone who could bridge the temporary gap and ensure continuity, during the periods where we find ourselves 'between' managers.

Secondly, I think we should stick rigorously to the 'style of play' requirements for the club and ensure that we are meticulous in recruiting both Head Coaches and Players who 'FIT'. That should apply across the board (Youth, Dev & First Team) and is again an area where I think Steve would be helpful, though I do think we need a head of recruitment and that is not the role for him. We cannot afford to be swayed in regard to the style / type of manager we appoint and for me THAT is precisely where we went wrong this season (time pressures and the need to appoint someone left us compromising).

On the squad front, it's difficult when you are trying to create enough flexibility to function and gain promotion from L1, whilst also ensuring you can develop the squad sufficiently, should you achieve the objective. Over time, I think that's where strengthening the Youth and Development squads will reap some benefits.

As things stand, It's hard to see who will still be here come next season... If we are talking L1 then we have players like Owen Dale & Jake Beesley, who haven't even feature for us this season, but will certainly be strong contenders in the League below... I think Husband, Lyons, Thompson, Marv are all likely to be here... We may come under pressure for Gabriel and Jerry, might lose Keshi... Bridcutt & Stewart will be off, which opens up some budget that's been wasted for this season at least... Lavery will probably stay..

Who knows we might see some ambitious signings?? Are Rogers and Fiorini here with a view to a purchase? Could that still happen if we drop down a level? It's been mooted we might be looking at signing Rhys Williams permanently ?
By stability I was thinking more of 2 to 3 years and avoiding the scenario this year where we will have had 4 Managers in a 12 month period (Critch, Appleton, McCarthy and A N Other) plus at least 4 different Assistants/1st team coaches and 3 different people responsible for Player Recruitment (Stephenson, Badlan and A N Other). The only stability in the Club has been Simon, Brett and Ben.
 
Stability (in Managerial / Head Coach ) terms is simply not a realistic objective in my view. To that extent, I think we have got the 'general' theoretical approach (i.e. the separation of recruitment and, at least up until this season, some clarity over our style of play) right. Obviously that fell down when Critchley left and showed that whilst the theory was great, we hadn't really taken the practical measures to create resilience for when the inevitable happens and a HC / Manager departs... (On average that will happen every 2.5 years).

There's a couple of things I think we need to do in that regard...

Firstly, I think we should appoint Steve Thompson (assuming he would want to come along) and maybe Steve could have a combined role that involved both ensuring that we maintained a sense of technical continuity in the way we play football across (Youth, Development and First Team Squads) as well as from Head Coach to Head Coach, but also as someone who could bridge the temporary gap and ensure continuity, during the periods where we find ourselves 'between' managers.

Secondly, I think we should stick rigorously to the 'style of play' requirements for the club and ensure that we are meticulous in recruiting both Head Coaches and Players who 'FIT'. That should apply across the board (Youth, Dev & First Team) and is again an area where I think Steve would be helpful, though I do think we need a head of recruitment and that is not the role for him. We cannot afford to be swayed in regard to the style / type of manager we appoint and for me THAT is precisely where we went wrong this season (time pressures and the need to appoint someone left us compromising).

On the squad front, it's difficult when you are trying to create enough flexibility to function and gain promotion from L1, whilst also ensuring you can develop the squad sufficiently, should you achieve the objective. Over time, I think that's where strengthening the Youth and Development squads will reap some benefits.

As things stand, It's hard to see who will still be here come next season... If we are talking L1 then we have players like Owen Dale & Jake Beesley, who haven't even feature for us this season, but will certainly be strong contenders in the League below... I think Husband, Lyons, Thompson, Marv are all likely to be here... We may come under pressure for Gabriel and Jerry, might lose Keshi... Bridcutt & Stewart will be off, which opens up some budget that's been wasted for this season at least... Lavery will probably stay..

Who knows we might see some ambitious signings?? Are Rogers and Fiorini here with a view to a purchase? Could that still happen if we drop down a level? It's been mooted we might be looking at signing Rhys Williams permanently ?
More sensible comments on this thread. Going back to Ollie (and by default Thommo) style of play was indeed something that was the same throughout first team and Academy.
Thommo is a great shout and someone I would have liked back some time ago.
Retention of the current players is interesting. I'm not certain how attractive a proposition any of them will be to a Championship club. If League 1 clubs are interested and we are relegated then our wages are likely to be "top 8", I think was said, so might not lose anyone on a level transfer. Developing the Development Squad is of course key and there is some consistency there despite the turmoil elsewhere.
 
By stability I was thinking more of 2 to 3 years and avoiding the scenario this year where we will have had 4 Managers in a 12 month period (Critch, Appleton, McCarthy and A N Other) plus at least 4 different Assistants/1st team coaches and 3 different people responsible for Player Recruitment (Stephenson, Badlan and A N Other). The only stability in the Club has been Simon, Brett and Ben.
I get you 👍

Of course it's also great us theorising on here... I'm sure the practicalities of trying to create that stability and continuity at a Club that had been left to pretty much rot for several years (and which had really been run without due care and attention for 3 decades) is a lot more difficult in reality.

If by some twist of fate, we manage to stay up this season, then hopefully we can use the opportunity we have (with some expensive contracts running out) to build a side that is more capable of competing at this level and if not, then I think that we have to try and view a return to L1 as an opportunity to re-establish and firm up the strategy, learn from mistakes made in the past and rebuild the squad again.
 
Can I just say I really miss Neil Critchley?! I'll come to Badlan in a bit.

Because we were a bit of a shambles pre Critchley and we've been a bit of a shambles post Critchley. Quite a few people on here were dissing him before he left. Some fans turn on people regardless of how good a job they have done. We've seen it before.

Anyway the point I want to make is that we haven't made enough good football appointments since SS took over. Including Badlan, probably. In fact you might argue that Critchley has been the only one. Mansford is an administrator. I wouldn't be asking him to select football people. If that is what he does I think it's a bit odd. Especially if SS and Gerrity are also involved. Let Mansford sort out the east stand and training ground, player contracts etc. He's probably will equipped to do that sort of stuff. He doesn't know how to find head coaches it seems.

Grayson, Appleton and McCarthy are the same mistake, times three. It looks like a desire to avoid risk, but it's really poor decision making. Grayson was obviously not in a good place after Sunderland and hasn't recovered. A spent force. Appleton was not in a good place after cancer and Lincoln. A spent force in need of recuperation. McCarthy was in a golf and grandparent place. Fully ensconced in relaxation and retirement. And all three are old school and behind the curve. It would have been less risky to take a bigger risk than these three. They need to stop thinking they have the skills between them to make these decisions because they clearly don't.

Badlan and his sidekick were odd appointments too for me. We don't sign people like Gyokeres and O'Hare cos we are lower budget. Most of our current players have been identified by Critchley and Appleton I reckon. When Badlan arrived i imagined him handing lists to Mansford, and Mansford going back to him later asking for more names. "We can't agree terms with those." And us getting Appleton loans instead.

And why was it a shock to them that Critchley, after two very good first seasons in management and a period running Liverpool's academy, got a job offer with a huge pay rise that he couldn't refuse? Which resulted in the biggest mistake to date. Critch wasn't a natural fit for us, long term.

However. Sadler is our owner. He wants to do the right thing. He's a decent guy. He's learning on the job. He's repaired lots of damage and funded us through Covid. He has planned investment. He got us promoted quickly. He's a million miles from what we had before for 30 years and longer and we should be careful what we wish for. He just needs to wise up in recruitment terms. Somehow.

In the real world though it can be hard to find the right people when you need them. And they can disappear overnight. It's not easy. As a fanbase we expect our club to punch above its weight. Unreasonably. Then crucify people if they fail to achieve that standard.

Three clubs have to go down and we have one of the lowest budgets. So nature is having its wicked way. Assisted by a hierarchy that isnt functioning well, in terms of on field performance, it would appear. Partly cos it's a very difficult task running a football club in the English pyramid given the finances of the pyramid and the way it is run. Dodgy owners and money and contracts etc. we are punching upwards against opponents who don't all play by the rules and or have significantly bigger budgets. Could anyone else do better? Who? Are they prepared to take the plunge, take the flak and dip into their savings?

SS and co could do better certainly. They seem to be making the recruitment decisions, in a field of work they lack experience of, and the decisions tend to be based on fear, possibly. They look for the experience of Grayson ,Appleton and McCarthy but overlook the warning signs. Grayson's shot confidence, Appleton's cancer recovery and McCarthy's golf course retirement demeanour. Lack of rigour and lack of instinct. Think clearly. Examine the person and where they are at right now in the moment of recruitment. We don't have the funds to cherry pick, but we can do better by looking for the right skill set and the right energy. Like Critchley. Like Evatt.

I do also wonder if our fan base puts people off applying for the head coach job. Appleton looked scared, McCarthy even seemed wary based on previous experience at Bloomfield Rd. Critchley looked wary even though he was doing well. Mid table security first season wasn't enough for some. We needed more style, more goals and a play off push. When we tailed off after safety was assured the knives came out. Our fans don't help and I would never choose to own or run a football club. Especially one with a slightly unhinged, overly expectant, kind of adolescent bullying element in its fanbase. A mixed blessing set of supporters. With remnants still of a protest mentality, perhaps?

We need more emotional stability. Less fear. Smarter recruitment. Clarity of vision. Realistic expectations. Continuity.

Critchley was a good appointment but he was never really comfortable. He came from a very different culture. He wasn't going to stay here once a big pay rise was offered, at a better resourced club. You have to assess potential key employees for their ability to thrive within and enjoy the culture. It's one of the factors to take into account. You have to assess their energy. Grayson arrived drained. Critch arrived full of energy and confidence. Appleton arrived drained and a bit in denial of his past and his health situation. McCarthy arrived marking his scorecard, with a boot full of golf gear and his grandkids overnight bags. All these things can be spotted when you talk to people, if you listen and watch and take your time. And you know what you are doing. Evatt had the energy, he was starting his management career impressively, and he knows the culture at our club and saw how it could thrive, under Holloway, by using that culture as a positive. And he wanted to come here. Commitment. I was annoyed about the club's dismissal of him at the time.
Agree with a lot of that but I think one of the issues is that as you’ve put it, Mansford should be an administrator, but he isn’t is he? He’s a former agent. As such he seems to have a wider ranging role and remit. We’ll never really know what John Stephenson was supposed to be doing, but This implies he had a role that was more than just recruitment, based on his experience on running the football side.
 
Oldham were doing very poorly . They got Thommo in as Head of Recruitment and they ve been doing a bit better.

Theyve even got Joe Nuttall scoring a few.
 
Stability (in Managerial / Head Coach ) terms is simply not a realistic objective in my view. To that extent, I think we have got the 'general' theoretical approach (i.e. the separation of recruitment and, at least up until this season, some clarity over our style of play) right. Obviously that fell down when Critchley left and showed that whilst the theory was great, we hadn't really taken the practical measures to create resilience for when the inevitable happens and a HC / Manager departs... (On average that will happen every 2.5 years).

There's a couple of things I think we need to do in that regard...

Firstly, I think we should appoint Steve Thompson (assuming he would want to come along) and maybe Steve could have a combined role that involved both ensuring that we maintained a sense of technical continuity in the way we play football across (Youth, Development and First Team Squads) as well as from Head Coach to Head Coach, but also as someone who could bridge the temporary gap and ensure continuity, during the periods where we find ourselves 'between' managers.

Secondly, I think we should stick rigorously to the 'style of play' requirements for the club and ensure that we are meticulous in recruiting both Head Coaches and Players who 'FIT'. That should apply across the board (Youth, Dev & First Team) and is again an area where I think Steve would be helpful, though I do think we need a head of recruitment and that is not the role for him. We cannot afford to be swayed in regard to the style / type of manager we appoint and for me THAT is precisely where we went wrong this season (time pressures and the need to appoint someone left us compromising).

On the squad front, it's difficult when you are trying to create enough flexibility to function and gain promotion from L1, whilst also ensuring you can develop the squad sufficiently, should you achieve the objective. Over time, I think that's where strengthening the Youth and Development squads will reap some benefits.

As things stand, It's hard to see who will still be here come next season... If we are talking L1 then we have players like Owen Dale & Jake Beesley, who haven't even feature for us this season, but will certainly be strong contenders in the League below... I think Husband, Lyons, Thompson, Marv are all likely to be here... We may come under pressure for Gabriel and Jerry, might lose Keshi... Bridcutt & Stewart will be off, which opens up some budget that's been wasted for this season at least... Lavery will probably stay..

Who knows we might see some ambitious signings?? Are Rogers and Fiorini here with a view to a purchase? Could that still happen if we drop down a level? It's been mooted we might be looking at signing Rhys Williams permanently ?
We need to set a style and stick with it, it has to be a passing style really and people like Thommo who played under Ollie, like Evatt, Dobbie, Adam etc I'd expect the same sort of approach.

We need to be able to pass out from the back but also not be completely rigid like Swansea, mix it up with long diagonals when needed.

Basically a similar kind of style they used to play.

But when we lose the ball we need to press as a unit.

Stick with it. Bring in the manager who suits it and sign players to that style throughout a few windows.

Teams that are that good on the ball rarely go down.
 
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We need to set a style and stick with it, it has to be a passing style really and people like Thommo who played under Ollie, like Evatt, Dobbie, Adam etc I'd expect the same sort of approach.

We need to be able to pass out from the back but also not be completely rigid like Swansea, mix it up with long diagonals when needed.

Basically a similar kind of style they used to play.

But when we lose the ball we need to press as a unit.

Stick with it. Bring in the manager who suits it and sign players to that style throughout a few windows.

Teams that are that good on the ball rarely go down.
I think there's a couple of key things that the 'Style' has to achieve

Firstly it needs to be sufficiently solid to compensate for the fact that we will inevitably be competing with some technically inferior players (at least in the Championship). For me the 'Appleton' system was definitely not robust enough.. Too many gaps... Too weak defensively etc.. It may well have worked with much better players, but we don't have that luxury.

Secondly it needs to be expansive enough to 'show off' the talents of the players we are inevitably going to sell on (hopefully for considerable profit). It's no good adopting a McCarthy style as is just suffocates talent and ultimately devalues the type of players we would be aiming to capitalise upon.

So basically ... Not too expansive and Not too defensive, but 'Just Right' - Goldilocks Football 😂

It's a shame it's not that simple of course, but I do think if ensure we stick more rigidly to ensuring that consistency of style, that over time it will pay dividends.
 
Forgive me if 've missed it in this long thread. Have we still got Badlan's right hand man Stuart Benthom as our Chief Scout? At least that would be a positive for next season!
 
I never realised the team was revealed on a Friday before a Saturday match, always thought it was on the day of the game after breakfast to keep everybody on their toes. When Fiorini and Poveda disappeared after finding out they weren’t even on the subs bench that was a couple of hours before the kick off.

Badlan or even the Pool supporter cannot say they guessed that team, there isn’t a Pool supporter alive who could ever accurately guess a McCarthy starting X1 for any game never mind the names of the substitutes.

There is mention of the damage this leak has done to the Club which I fully accept. However there is nobody on the BFC Payroll currently doing more collateral damage to the Club than Mick McCarthy who seems to be completely untouchable which is just like Blackpool’s permanent position in the relegation zone is fast becoming. McCarthy has delivered the same number of points (9) as Reading (6) and Wigan (3) have been deducted but despite this unexpected bonus we are still no nearer safety.

Simon Sadier is a very successful Hedge Fund Manager, which suggests he is decisive and not risk averse. Regarding Blackpool FC it is now time he stopped hedging his bets with some other members of his staff and to also announce additional funding to either keep us in the Championship next season or to mount a serious promotion challenge if we do end up in Div 1.
I dont think the team will have been revealed on a friday to the whole club but with badlan being sporting director there is a good chance he would have some input to the team and tactics on the day before a match with the actual team announced to the players on the day of the match.
Has the input from badlan gone some way to confuse the team selection in the past few games.
 
Forgive me if 've missed it in this long thread. Have we still got Badlan's right hand man Stuart Benthom as our Chief Scout? At least that would be a positive for next season!
He's not been announced as going and nor should he of its the other guy who has done wrong.
 
I dont think the team will have been revealed on a friday to the whole club but with badlan being sporting director there is a good chance he would have some input to the team and tactics on the day before a match with the actual team announced to the players on the day of the match.
Has the input from badlan gone some way to confuse the team selection in the past few games.
I will be very surprised if Mick McCarthy allows anybody to have an input to his team selection apart from TC. Mick is old school albeit I heard some of the senior players did have an input to the starting X1 immediately prior to the QPR home game. The team selection tomorrow will be very revealing, will Mick select an attacking team like he did against QPR and Coventry or will it be on similar lines as Burnley?
 
Can I just say I really miss Neil Critchley?! I'll come to Badlan in a bit.

Because we were a bit of a shambles pre Critchley and we've been a bit of a shambles post Critchley. Quite a few people on here were dissing him before he left. Some fans turn on people regardless of how good a job they have done. We've seen it before.

Anyway the point I want to make is that we haven't made enough good football appointments since SS took over. Including Badlan, probably. In fact you might argue that Critchley has been the only one. Mansford is an administrator. I wouldn't be asking him to select football people. If that is what he does I think it's a bit odd. Especially if SS and Gerrity are also involved. Let Mansford sort out the east stand and training ground, player contracts etc. He's probably will equipped to do that sort of stuff. He doesn't know how to find head coaches it seems.

Grayson, Appleton and McCarthy are the same mistake, times three. It looks like a desire to avoid risk, but it's really poor decision making. Grayson was obviously not in a good place after Sunderland and hasn't recovered. A spent force. Appleton was not in a good place after cancer and Lincoln. A spent force in need of recuperation. McCarthy was in a golf and grandparent place. Fully ensconced in relaxation and retirement. And all three are old school and behind the curve. It would have been less risky to take a bigger risk than these three. They need to stop thinking they have the skills between them to make these decisions because they clearly don't.

Badlan and his sidekick were odd appointments too for me. We don't sign people like Gyokeres and O'Hare cos we are lower budget. Most of our current players have been identified by Critchley and Appleton I reckon. When Badlan arrived i imagined him handing lists to Mansford, and Mansford going back to him later asking for more names. "We can't agree terms with those." And us getting Appleton loans instead.

And why was it a shock to them that Critchley, after two very good first seasons in management and a period running Liverpool's academy, got a job offer with a huge pay rise that he couldn't refuse? Which resulted in the biggest mistake to date. Critch wasn't a natural fit for us, long term.

However. Sadler is our owner. He wants to do the right thing. He's a decent guy. He's learning on the job. He's repaired lots of damage and funded us through Covid. He has planned investment. He got us promoted quickly. He's a million miles from what we had before for 30 years and longer and we should be careful what we wish for. He just needs to wise up in recruitment terms. Somehow.

In the real world though it can be hard to find the right people when you need them. And they can disappear overnight. It's not easy. As a fanbase we expect our club to punch above its weight. Unreasonably. Then crucify people if they fail to achieve that standard.

Three clubs have to go down and we have one of the lowest budgets. So nature is having its wicked way. Assisted by a hierarchy that isnt functioning well, in terms of on field performance, it would appear. Partly cos it's a very difficult task running a football club in the English pyramid given the finances of the pyramid and the way it is run. Dodgy owners and money and contracts etc. we are punching upwards against opponents who don't all play by the rules and or have significantly bigger budgets. Could anyone else do better? Who? Are they prepared to take the plunge, take the flak and dip into their savings?

SS and co could do better certainly. They seem to be making the recruitment decisions, in a field of work they lack experience of, and the decisions tend to be based on fear, possibly. They look for the experience of Grayson ,Appleton and McCarthy but overlook the warning signs. Grayson's shot confidence, Appleton's cancer recovery and McCarthy's golf course retirement demeanour. Lack of rigour and lack of instinct. Think clearly. Examine the person and where they are at right now in the moment of recruitment. We don't have the funds to cherry pick, but we can do better by looking for the right skill set and the right energy. Like Critchley. Like Evatt.

I do also wonder if our fan base puts people off applying for the head coach job. Appleton looked scared, McCarthy even seemed wary based on previous experience at Bloomfield Rd. Critchley looked wary even though he was doing well. Mid table security first season wasn't enough for some. We needed more style, more goals and a play off push. When we tailed off after safety was assured the knives came out. Our fans don't help and I would never choose to own or run a football club. Especially one with a slightly unhinged, overly expectant, kind of adolescent bullying element in its fanbase. A mixed blessing set of supporters. With remnants still of a protest mentality, perhaps?

We need more emotional stability. Less fear. Smarter recruitment. Clarity of vision. Realistic expectations. Continuity.

Critchley was a good appointment but he was never really comfortable. He came from a very different culture. He wasn't going to stay here once a big pay rise was offered, at a better resourced club. You have to assess potential key employees for their ability to thrive within and enjoy the culture. It's one of the factors to take into account. You have to assess their energy. Grayson arrived drained. Critch arrived full of energy and confidence. Appleton arrived drained and a bit in denial of his past and his health situation. McCarthy arrived marking his scorecard, with a boot full of golf gear and his grandkids overnight bags. All these things can be spotted when you talk to people, if you listen and watch and take your time. And you know what you are doing. Evatt had the energy, he was starting his management career impressively, and he knows the culture at our club and saw how it could thrive, under Holloway, by using that culture as a positive. And he wanted to come here. Commitment. I was annoyed about the club's dismissal of him at the time.
This is an excellent summary of the Sadler/Mansford era. In terms of the Head Coach the riskiest appointment and the most successful was Critchley albeit he needed a big helping hand from Calderwood to get to grips with the nitty gritty demands of Lg 1. I was disappointed in the way Evatt was dismissed out of hand, given his standing at the club he should have at least have been given the opportunity of an interview to put forward his ideas. Mansford had his little black book of names, Heckingbotham, Duff, Appleton and may be the latter has put question marks against his judgement.

So Badlan has gone, apart from the idiotic leaking of the team it may well be that he was not the shining star that he was billed as, who knows? If ever there was a time it would have been good to pick the brains of a certain Jimmy ARMFIELD this is it. Do we need a new Sporting Director/Director of Football before we can begin the search for a new Head Coach?
 
This is an excellent summary of the Sadler/Mansford era. In terms of the Head Coach the riskiest appointment and the most successful was Critchley albeit he needed a big helping hand from Calderwood to get to grips with the nitty gritty demands of Lg 1. I was disappointed in the way Evatt was dismissed out of hand, given his standing at the club he should have at least have been given the opportunity of an interview to put forward his ideas. Mansford had his little black book of names, Heckingbotham, Duff, Appleton and may be the latter has put question marks against his judgement.

So Badlan has gone, apart from the idiotic leaking of the team it may well be that he was not the shining star that he was billed as, who knows? If ever there was a time it would have been good to pick the brains of a certain Jimmy ARMFIELD this is it. Do we need a new Sporting Director/Director of Football before we can begin the search for a new Head Coach?
You don't necessarily need a full time employee. You could consult people. Develop relationship and use people as advisors, as and when. Maybe.
 
I think there's a couple of key things that the 'Style' has to achieve

Firstly it needs to be sufficiently solid to compensate for the fact that we will inevitably be competing with some technically inferior players (at least in the Championship). For me the 'Appleton' system was definitely not robust enough.. Too many gaps... Too weak defensively etc.. It may well have worked with much better players, but we don't have that luxury.

Secondly it needs to be expansive enough to 'show off' the talents of the players we are inevitably going to sell on (hopefully for considerable profit). It's no good adopting a McCarthy style as is just suffocates talent and ultimately devalues the type of players we would be aiming to capitalise upon.

So basically ... Not too expansive and Not too defensive, but 'Just Right' - Goldilocks Football 😂

It's a shame it's not that simple of course, but I do think if ensure we stick more rigidly to ensuring that consistency of style, that over time it will pay dividends.
I think improving on the ball eliminates some of the risk, the less you lose it by playing a way and believing in it, the less the opposition can hurt you. At times currently were just hoofing it back to thr opposition which is absolutely useless and dangerous.

Also Appleton wasn't known for his pressing, when we lose the ball and have players in advanced positions, an effective press is the way to go.

I remember it being talked about in Evatts Barrowcelona video, from wathcing Pep, something like the 6 second rule, if we're not winning it back in 6 seconds there's something going wrong. I think if you don't win it after that you begin to drop back.

Tbh its easy to say about installing a philosophy, always harder to do obviously, however we haven't helped ourselves.

Get in a manager who plays that way, or wants to play that way and will stick to it. Sign players to meet that strategy, there may be a small transition to get to it.

Easier said than done but you need technical players and some strong fast players, who are technical also, but of course everyone is looking for those.

But as long as we stuck to the general philosophy, then even some players who weren't maybe quite as technical as others, coming into a team that plays that way, can improve, as we saw under Ollie, when there's a clear passing style. Players were relaxed, confident and did the basics well, the rest flowed from that.
 
I will be very surprised if Mick McCarthy allows anybody to have an input to his team selection apart from TC. Mick is old school albeit I heard some of the senior players did have an input to the starting X1 immediately prior to the QPR home game. The team selection tomorrow will be very revealing, will Mick select an attacking team like he did against QPR and Coventry or will it be on similar lines as Burnley?
Having listenned to Raggy's audio of his meeting with the Board and players there was an intriguing comment from Ben about "wait and see on Friday" which I took to mean McCarthy had been told to pick a team to win rather than one not to lose.
Just my interpretation.
 
Having listenned to Raggy's audio of his meeting with the Board and players there was an intriguing comment from Ben about "wait and see on Friday" which I took to mean McCarthy had been told to pick a team to win rather than one not to lose.
Just my interpretation.
I thought that comment from Mansford was strange. They really can't make MM do anything he doesn't want to. He's only contracted until the end of the season and obviously has a bonus if he keeps us up. The club have nothing to hold over him which worries me. Worse they can do is sack him, but I'm sure he'd be very happy with the pay off. He doesn't need to worry about reputation because he's just going to go back to his retirement.

Maybe we could put him on gardening leave instead of straight up sacking him because that might cause legal problems with him not having the opportunity to earn his bonus?
 
In hindsight, Raggy is now in charge of BFC - gets Badlan sacked, gets a meeting with the players, chooses today's team ..
Well if it all goes tits up #RaggyOut
 
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