CJ

rememberlesshannon said:
Because Anderson and Bowler have been outstanding ?
Because Dale was here when CJ was injured ?
Not sure what training CJ has had, if he's had Covid ?
So Anderson is out, Mitchell or CJ our only alternative. Presumably you go for the tried and trusted never let us down, guaranteed a top performance Mitchell. It's why we have a squad, when players get injured, loans end, covid hits, we have players to come in.
Then it's up to the player to perform and keep his place......unless you're Grimshaw of course.
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At the end of this post, are you saying Grimshaw doesn’t deserve a starting place? If so, are you insinuating Maxwell does, when he returns?

If that is the case - This debate is over. I cannot argue with blatant ignorance.
 
ItsGrimUpNorth said:
At the end of this post, are you saying Grimshaw doesn’t deserve a starting place? If so, are you insinuating Maxwell does, when he returns?

If that is the case - This debate is over. I cannot argue with blatant ignorance.
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I believe the point re Grimshaw is that he was playing well and shouldn’t have been dropped.
 
rememberlesshannon said:
This Is aimed at the whole abject team performance in the second 45 minutes right ? Or are you saying the guy who created chances, missed chances and has had hardly any game time over the last 18 months, was the root cause of one of the worst second half performances I have ever seen. That he wasn't trying and this bad blood he had running through his veins, affected the rest of the players so badly they all ended up being shit. Or as you have intimated, some had a bad day CJ is just absolutely garbage. Short term memory syndrome some fans, everyone was crying in their beer first time he got injured.
Like I say he's neither Maradonna or Whitworth ( for those old enough to remember the worst debut in history)
There must be something in the middle and I will reserve judgement on his ability to be a Championship player until he has a run of games.
Bowler has gone from useless to God in half a season, maybe just maybe CJ can do the same.
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He is absolutly nowhere near maradonna maybe more like madonna. He’s not good enough literally cant out it any simpler than that. Geezer’s got pace thats about it but so does everyone else in this league. Are you forgetting he missed from 2 yards out was harder to miss the goal than score.
 
Stony Hill said:
I disagree.
I think he’s ‘lost’ his sixth gear. (@ the mo) I can’t prove it but his body language does not look like he’s busting a gut on some of his runs. Maybe, his muscles are not fully loosened? Maybe he’s worried about another injury?
On the other hand, if he gets his confidence back and he hears the crowd roaring him on, might he put in that extra effort? Wouldn’t you?
If it doesn’t happen, then I’ll conform but give him a (last) chance.
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He isn’t a championship player thats the problem got to have more than pace at this level facts. Get found out he wasn’t even that good last year was just quicker than everyone else but actually on the ball and conversion rate infront of goal was shocking and he is injury prone.
 
Most exciting player I thought for years in Tangerine when he arrived and didn't disappoint, had a really crap injury if your a footballer and still taking small steps back. Really hope he gets 100% match fitness back and he will tear up this league.
 
ItsGrimUpNorth said:
At the end of this post, are you saying Grimshaw doesn’t deserve a starting place? If so, are you insinuating Maxwell does, when he returns?

If that is the case - This debate is over. I cannot argue with blatant ignorance.
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he is saying he does, he is on about when Maxwell came back in for Grimshaw
 
UltraNorthStand said:
He isn’t a championship player thats the problem got to have more than pace at this level facts. Get found out he wasn’t even that good last year was just quicker than everyone else but actually on the ball and conversion rate infront of goal was shocking and he is injury prone.
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As I said, one more chance. Of course, Critch watches him more than us and will make a decision one way or the other.
 
Genuinely I would loan him out and get rid at the end of the season. Whatever he had, he has clearly lost!
 
SeasideKurt said:
Seems to be the case for Dale and Gretarrson (less than 5 games). I clearly don't see what you see in CJ.

Loan in League One is the best all round option.
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You can't do the Matt Phillips thing any more. If you loan him out he's gone for the season. I can't see us making that decision with Bowler's future up in the air.

I think CJ can get back. I understand the impatience with him this season; he's not the complete player and we do need everyone at it to compete in games. But some fans feel they're owed instant impactful performances from a player just coming back from a long injury. It's like the Stewart takes: "He'll never play for us again. He's not interested." Bloke got injured! He's probably not overjoyed about it himself. Wish we could drop the ridiculous sense of entitlement some fans seem to feel when it comes to footballers who play for their team.
 
Yes we’ll done CJ; a credit to yourself and BFC. So pleased he’s proved his army of detractors wrong after what must have been a terrible 12 months for him.
Hope some of our less knowledgeable posters (see above) are hanging their heads in shame!
 
Phil_bfc deux said:
Its all about opinions

The OP obviously rates CJ Hamilton

I don't, i think he's an awful footballer who's a bit of a one trick pony

He has pace but nothing else

His touch is horrendous, and his final ball extremely poor, he also hasn't got much composure and seems to just swing at the ball aimlessly

The biggest problem for me is his body language when he loses the ball, instead of chasing back he just stands there shrugging his shoulders and pouting his lips

Would probably do really well for someone like Fylde in their league where he could just run at journey men pros

All opinions of course...
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all opinions of course
 
I'm not a fan of CJ but have no problem saying he's done well these last three games and I hope he continues to play well. But I'd much rather read posters opinions of players be that good or bad than some who come on here and offer no opinion at all other than criticise posters for having an opinion.
 
Phil_bfc deux said:
Its all about opinions

The OP obviously rates CJ Hamilton

I don't, i think he's an awful footballer who's a bit of a one trick pony

He has pace but nothing else

His touch is horrendous, and his final ball extremely poor, he also hasn't got much composure and seems to just swing at the ball aimlessly

The biggest problem for me is his body language when he loses the ball, instead of chasing back he just stands there shrugging his shoulders and pouting his lips

Would probably do really well for someone like Fylde in their league where he could just run at journey men pros

All opinions of course...
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Your opinion is more often than not an extremely hot take and looking back at posts like this is hilarious. I think you’re one of the most football illiterate posters on this board.

All opinions of course 😂
 
SeasideKurt said:
Everything I’ve said I still standby. He wouldn’t be playing if Anderson wasn’t injured, hence loaning him out.
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A little touchy for one who stands by every word, you would look as good as CJ in a Blackpool shirt then?
 
20togo said:
I'm not a fan of CJ but have no problem saying he's done well these last three games and I hope he continues to play well. But I'd much rather read posters opinions of players be that good or bad than some who come on here and offer no opinion at all other than criticise posters for having an opinion.
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Bit strange that, you’re a fan of Bowler but not CJ?
 
thecatintheroof said:
Love to hear you explain that comment 20's? Why would you not be a fan?
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no problem. I've watched him since he first arrived and he's blessed with fantastic pace but that's pretty much his only asset. I don't think he's technically good enough on the ball. His touch isn't good enough and the higher up the leagues we go the better the full back is who who will be able ro deal with his pace. I've been pretty much saying the same for 18 months now. But I'm not finish on a negative comment, He's done really well these last three games which I've also acknowledged. So I hope he can continue to do that and make me eat my words and change my opinion of him. Madine and Anderson were two others who've made me do that.

TimperleyTangerine said:
Bit strange that, you’re a fan of Bowler but not CJ?
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Bowler is comfortably a much more talented player. The ball is like glued to Bowlers foot. And he's now delivering a consistent higher level of performance.
 
20togo said:
no problem. I've watched him since he first arrived and he's blessed with fantastic pace but that's pretty much his only asset. I don't think he's technically good enough on the ball. His touch isn't good enough and the higher up the leagues we go the better the full back is who who will be able ro deal with his pace. I've been pretty much saying the same for 18 months now. But I'm not finish on a negative comment, He's done really well these last three games which I've also acknowledged. So I hope he can continue to do that and make me eat my words and change my opinion of him. Madine and Anderson were two others who've made me do that.



Bowler is comfortably a much more talented player. The ball is like glued to Bowlers foot. And he's now delivering a consistent higher level of performance.
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20’s, I get where you’re coming from but like you said with Bowler, I feel like CJ also offers that excitement that makes you want to watch football. There’s not much better in football than seeing your wingers absolutely flying past players and getting into the box, which is what we have with these two. They’re both extremely exciting but frustrating too, which comes with the territory of being a winger. There was a move yesterday where Bowler had an easy ball to play Yates into the box but he took it on and ran into the defender.

They’re both great and exciting and we’re lucky to have strength in depth.
 
The problem with fans who go back and retrospectively find threads like this, is that those individuals saying he wasn’t good enough were correct. He wasn’t playing at the standard required.

Now he has for one game. He didn’t put a great performance in at Fulham. Maybe he’s finding his feet but I still have doubts.
 
LeedsSeasider said:
20’s, I get where you’re coming from but like you said with Bowler, I feel like CJ also offers that excitement that makes you want to watch football. There’s not much better in football than seeing your wingers absolutely flying past players and getting into the box, which is what we have with these two. They’re both extremely exciting but frustrating too, which comes with the territory of being a winger. There was a move yesterday where Bowler had an easy ball to play Yates into the box but he took it on and ran into the defender.

They’re both great and exciting and we’re lucky to have strength in depth.
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Don't know if we're talking about the same incident [ first half] but as I saw it, Yates made a cross run trying to take one of the defenders away from Bowler but it meant his body shape wasn't the best for Bowler to pass to him. Again only in my view it meant Bowler realised this and so tried to take on his man with a shimmy left and then right and lost the ball. I was thinking Bowler could have tried to curl it round the right side of the defender with the keeper being pretty much unsighted.
Hamilton is doing great at the moment. Like Bowler he can get us from one end of the pitch to the other which is great fro relieving the pressure. But Bowler being comfortably better on the ball with his close control means he often has at least two men around him but he's still so good on the ball he can often beat them no problem. Hamilton is simply a bit of a push and run merchant and he doesn't command the same attention when being marked so if he's in space then he can do well. And like Bowler his final ball is improving. First minute, Bowler perhaps should have scored after a great CJ run.
 
"At the start of the season, I wasn't even at 30% of my best because I was trying to combat injuries at the time. Hopefully people can see over recent weeks that my confidence is growing on the pitch and I can hopefully build on Saturday's goal."

Injury and the screw that needed removing was legit and he also hadn't played in a long time.

He's now finding his feet again, is match fit, gaining confidence and the goal and people chanting his name will only help this.

With 2 wingers to worry about it means likely more space for each.
 
SeasideKurt said:
The problem with fans who go back and retrospectively find threads like this, is that those individuals saying he wasn’t good enough were correct. He wasn’t playing at the standard required.

Now he has for one game. He didn’t put a great performance in at Fulham. Maybe he’s finding his feet but I still have doubts.
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They were and you were totally wrong, don't state someone is shit, not a championship player etc etc then moan when your words come back to make you look a prick. He was great for us pre injury and is now great again now he is getting over said injury, anybody slating him was never correct.
 
Hazi said:
Like a fine wine is our CJ 🍊
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another typical post after a good second half from CJ. But for balance why don't you come on and post comments when he's had the many poor games that he has had. It works both ways. Said it enough times, it's about being honest.
 
Hazi said:
Because you and many others do that, I am putting this up for balance.
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nope, don't think you were. I think you were doing it to re-emphasise your previous post from February last year. But since then CJ has had many many poor games but i doubt you were commenting then. That said, he's currently doing well and I hope he continues to do so.

On a similar theme, not many if any seem to be jumping to Careys defence.
 
For a very large part of this season, CJ has been consistently very good. We also need to reflect that he’s been learning in a new role and that defensively he’s been excellent, aside from switching off at Wycombe for the 2nd goal. Taking his new role into account, I think he’s made an outstanding contribution.

Why people still feel the need to doubt him or say he’s inconsistent is beyond me. All players at every level have poorer games or a poor half, but it doesn’t diminish their overall contribution. There’s no need to keep doubting him or trying to find fault. Let’s just celebrate that he’s a key part of our team.
 
20togo said:
nope, don't think you were. I think you were doing it to re-emphasise your previous post from February last year. But since then CJ has had many many poor games but i doubt you were commenting then. That said, he's currently doing well and I hope he continues to do so.

On a similar theme, not many if any seem to be jumping to Careys defence.
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I think Sonny is a gnats bollock away from being an exceptional player, just awaiting the Penny to drop and it’s coming.
 
I've always thought CJ should be in the team for his pace alone & I'll admit I was against the inverted wingbacks (justifiably when Connolly was the left one) but I was wrong as it's started to work with CJ & Dale (who has improved greatly)
 
can't deny he's playing really well at the moment and is a serious threat to the opposition. Seems to have found that consistency for which he'd had plenty of criticism so good on him and long may it continue.
 
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