Sooty59
Well-known member
That’s because it’s aimed at the Tory Party members who decide.Yes, she isn‘t saying much that appeases the average working man and woman
That’s because it’s aimed at the Tory Party members who decide.Yes, she isn‘t saying much that appeases the average working man and woman
This.That’s because it’s aimed at the Tory Party members who decide.
The Government are wringing their hands, but of course, its fully within their power to have Ofgem set the cap at 0%, like the French have.I can see there being a swift lean back towards office based work rather than home working thats for sure. People won’t be able to afford to keep the heating on at home all day mid winter without it costing an absolute fortune.
Other than that I don’t think I’d risk not paying my bill for fear of being cut off and I’m not sure if I’m a natural born rioter
I do think the situation needs addresing and I don‘t think short term bungs from the government to help with bills are the answer.
I don’t know who or what has control over the price capping of energy bills but can that be revisited, as it’s the cause of the biggest cost of living issue we have ?
??? The war mongers on here were all of the RWNJ persuasion.Lefties were very hot for war earlier in the year. Less so now. Interesting times.
Not this time, deffo the lefties equating Putin with Hitler and talking about appeasement never working (not saying that's wrong btw). Just an observation I made at the time. I don't think the right particularly cares about Ukraine. The land of Adidas tracksuits and roll neck jumpers.??? The war mongers on here were all of the RWNJ persuasion.
Labour‘s energy plans make total sense to me and I can’t understand why it hasn’t been a considered option until now.Today's Times has a poll saying 3 out of 4 Tory voters prefer Labour's energy plans.
The tide is turning.
I think what is interesting is what is the 'average person's view' (if such a thing exists) may have shifted somewhat.Yes, she isn‘t saying much that appeases the average working man and woman
Yeah, I must admit, I'm not really that into Keith, but I thought 'yeah, that sounds pretty reasonable'Labour‘s energy plans make total sense to me and I can’t understand why it hasn’t been a considered option until now.
Too bloody right.At last a movement that is advocating non payment of energy bills from October 1st. It’s in its embryonic stage at the moment, but surely whatever ones views political wise, enough is enough. We’re having the piss took now, it’s time for a Poll Tax type revolt, I’m not advocating violence, but we need to take direct action. Thames Water introducing hosepipe bans, when %25 of the water goes down the drain due to leaks whilst the top guy takes £2 million plus in ’handouts’ it’s a ** disgrace!
Don’t you just think it’s a bit like: think of a number and don’t forget to make it a big one!My monthly payments have gone up to £750
Yes there’s six of us but jeez
And this is b4 the next two rises
Sadly, they are my fat (bastards - oops) cats.E-on just announced profits of £3.5 billion for the first quarter of this year.
Clearly taking the piss, no doubt others will announce similar if not bigger profits any time soon.
The fat Cats just get fatter.
Problem is Labour aren't in power and may not be for another couple of years or so. So in the meantime, what? Not a dig just a genuine question.Today's Times has a poll saying 3 out of 4 Tory voters prefer Labour's energy plans.
The tide is turning.
The Tories need to stop their self interest and do something. The current plans are not enough, but their core constituency can afford it and the key donors are benefitting from it. As such, nothing will happen. The current vacuum of responsibility created by Boris won't change with the election of Truss to PM. She is absolutely clueless.Problem is Labour aren't in power and may not be for another couple of years or so. So in the meantime, what? Not a dig just a genuine question.
There will be millions who simply cannot pay their bills. Nevermind those purposely withholding payments.Just be aware if you don’t pay your bills you could end up with a CCJ - which could hurt you in the long run.
Trouble is all the smaller utility companies who offered better deals and were a real threat to the big conglomerates have now gone bust leaving them to run the industry like a cartel. I suspect in the future there will be far less choice. Might as well be nationalised.All the utilities are the same: incompetently run but all ruled by ‘Sheriff’s of Nottingham’.
You’re right about the big “bosses” squeezing out their competition. I can almost see them sitting round the table:Trouble is all the smaller utility companies who offered better deals and were a real threat to the big conglomerates have now gone bust leaving them to run the industry like a cartel. I suspect in the future there will be far less choice. Might as well be nationalised.
I was lucky enough (or possibly astute enough) to fix my gas/electric last September for 3 years. The fix is about 2/3 of current cap so I am not going to be impacted by the cap rises.Today's Times has a poll saying 3 out of 4 Tory voters prefer Labour's energy plans.
The tide is turning.
A good pointWhat about all the pay as you go type meter owners, which is generally the type on the breadline… They can’t just not pay can they..?
Deliberately not paying is a stupidly anarchic suggestion that will just lead to further anarchy that will benefit no one. Show your displeasure at the high prices through acceptable democratic means.A good point
It is indeed bloody depressing.It's bloody depressing.
Totally agree. The current price hikes have been through a time when gas and electric useage will have been a lot lower due to the season, and people will already be cutting back on usage through fear.Just a heads up for anyone interested. I've been following up on stuff this week that I started a couple of weeks ago and had asked the energy company for an updated bill which I've now got from them albeit reluctantly. They only review twice a year. I've been refunded nearly 800 eventually and seen my DD drop by 130pm. I did have to tell them that I was fed with lending them money.
Check your bills very closely and who knows? You may get a pleasant surprise
They are definitely using the uncertainty to capitalise on customers ignorance and frankly should be run out of town for it.
Like what?Deliberately not paying is a stupidly anarchic suggestion that will just lead to further anarchy that will benefit no one. Show your displeasure at the high prices through acceptable democratic means.
It's a valid one.Problem is Labour aren't in power and may not be for another couple of years or so. So in the meantime, what? Not a dig just a genuine question.
Just bypass the metersWhat about all the pay as you go type meter owners, which is generally the type on the breadline… They can’t just not pay can they..?
It's a valid one.
I cannot see how the economy doesn't tank if the 6k price cap that's rumoured today is an actual thing. That's a) going to make so many people reliant on some kind of hand out and b) going to decimate the cash in the pockets of many of the rest...
Pubs, restaurants, satellite tv, beauty salons etc etc. Anything you can think of that isn't a bare necessity is going to be squeezed like hell, whilst also having to pay their own rates.
Which in turn creates more issues as people are laid off and businesses go under.
I don't get why it's not a bigger deal.
piss leaking perhaps... but yeah.How much more are the vast majority of our country going to take before some form of direct action is taken. Not just the energy companies. High street banks including HSBC, Lloyds, NatWest, and Santander, holding £673.5 billion in cash, at a 14 year high of 1.75 per cent interest held for a year would make them £11.78 billion in interest! whilst the easy access account across the top 5 banks pays 0.14 per cent! its piss taking!
It’s time to take back our water, since privatisation in 1989 £72billion paid out to shareholders, millions of litres a day draining away due to no repairs made to Victorian sewage pipes and mains water replacement pipes. Again it’s piss taking!
Something better change! I’m ** 70 next month, I’ve done my direct action bit over the years, it’s time for the young uns to say, right enough is enough!piss leaking perhaps... but yeah.
Aye.Something better change! I’m ** 70 next month, I’ve done my direct action bit over the years, it’s time for the young uns to say, right enough is enough!
Tbh we’ve thought similar, its almost like people are in denial of what is about to hit them! Sadly they’re all too soon to find out.Aye.
I think there's a general incredulity. I don't think people can actually quite process it. The whole suspension of business whilst the Government sorts out it's own internal politics isn't helping either cos it's like there's no one actually to demand anything of.
Think it also perhaps doesn't help that many have just experienced being 'bailed out' so to speak by furlough and there's a feeling that somehow, something must come along to divert the problem.Tbh we’ve thought similar, its almost like people are in denial of what is about to hit them! Sadly they’re all too soon to find out.
Regarding Truss and little Rishi their only thoughts are who‘s going to be the next Leader of the Conservative Party (Ludicrously) also PM! This on coming fiscal tidal wave is going to leave the vast majority struggling to meet even the bare necessities of weekly outlay, even the fairly well off are going to gasp at what little luxuries they are going to have to forfeit!Think it also perhaps doesn't help that many have just experienced being 'bailed out' so to speak by furlough and there's a feeling that somehow, something must come along to divert the problem.
I don't think a certain class of people really believe that they might be 'poor' either but there's a hell of a lot of us are fucked if this turns out as some are predicting.
I can't believe I'm hearing Truss talk about 'we need to avoid recession and blah, blah'
This is going to be a catastrophic economic situation if it's not got in hand soon.
It's a valid one.
I cannot see how the economy doesn't tank if the 6k price cap that's rumoured today is an actual thing. That's a) going to make so many people reliant on some kind of hand out and b) going to decimate the cash in the pockets of many of the rest...
Pubs, restaurants, satellite tv, beauty salons etc etc. Anything you can think of that isn't a bare necessity is going to be squeezed like hell, whilst also having to pay their own rates.
Which in turn creates more issues as people are laid off and businesses go under.
I don't get why it's not a bigger deal.
This is true. Whether it's supporting small business or supporting individuals to keep money flowing round or challenging the mega companies (i.e. fuel or energy giants) - if bills are high and no one is spending them it's effectively a cull of businesses that do not have cash reserves and/or profit margins they can use as a buffer.Yes, certainly not enough being done for small businesses.
Conservatives are supposed to encourage free enterprise but I get the impression that they wouldn't be disappointed for there to be just a few super businesses within individual industries.
The small businesses need support and quickly, I am not pretending to know all the figures but surely better to support the small businesses and help ensure their survival and continue to receive revenues from the tax on their profits and their employees earnings than have to provide support to all those who find themselves out of work if these businesses fail.
And yet all Ministers are still taking the additional salary for all that responsibility they're abdicating from.Aye.
I think there's a general incredulity. I don't think people can actually quite process it. The whole suspension of business whilst the Government sorts out it's own internal politics isn't helping either cos it's like there's no one actually to demand anything of.
It’s a National disgrace, a government full of Neros’.And yet all Ministers are still taking the additional salary for all that responsibility they're abdicating from.