Hang your heads in shame

BFC_BFC_BFC said:
I didn’t want him to be appointed, but that’s exactly what I would do, yes.

He needs a proper opportunity to build a proper squad and if he was good enough to appoint, then he’s good enough to back properly.
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You are easily pleased pal...and he wasnt good enough to appoint in the first place...too many fans have got little old Blackpool syndrome and it stinks.
 
Philbfctrois said:
Everything about the club at the moment tastes cheap

There isn't a cat in hells chance we would get Wilder
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Why have we no chance of getting Chris Wilder?? His options are very limited now after showing his arse at Boro he is damaged goods. Idont think he will get back in at the Premier and he wont go to League 1 so what other options does he have? Luton maybe, Swansea if they get rid of Martin, Reading if they ditch Pince, Cardiff and maybe Bristol City if Pearson goes and little Old Blackpool. If we are as ambitious as has been suggested in the past then now is the only chance we will have to get him. #Dare to dream
 
I have not seen anything lately to convince me things will improve if Appleton remains. Yes there are injuries and suspensions but the players returning will continue to play the system which is simply not working.

Basic coaching skills are not being shown and the players look devoid of confidence and leadership.

As a Blackpool supporter I want what’s best for the club and that is a new start before it’s too late. Those who think he deserves more time have clearly seen something I have not from him.

I fear that perseverance will bring only an unwelcome return to League 1.
 
TANGERINETOWERPOWER said:
You are easily pleased pal...and he wasnt good enough to appoint in the first place...too many fans have got little old Blackpool syndrome and it stinks.
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Whenever he's had an opportunity to play anything close to what we might consider a full strength side who are in a position to operate at 100%, then we've produced a performance worthy of a result.... To pot him now would be beyond ridiculous..... The only reason / justification to do it, is because our fans our mostly idiots, but we knew that when he was appointed (A primary reason why I thought the appointment was dodgy)... Now he is here, we must back him properly and allow him every opportunity to get things back on track.
 
I thought the "Appleton out" shouts were unnecessary and a bit pathetic.
Just a point on subs yesterday. I was with Appy on that. If we had been losing on 65mins I would have considered Corbeanu and/or CJ but neither are strong defensively so hanging on on 87mins with 10 men wasn't the time to make that change or any other from those on the bench.
Like many others I would have liked to see Rosenior ahead of Appy but I didn't interview him and I honestly don't think the Board appointed Appy just to piss us all off. Whatever the guesswork from the fans on here think Appy must have been the best candidate.
Is there any point potting him now?
The summer transfer window was clearly very disappointing. Its very easy to blame Mansford but I'm not privvy to enough facts to know if he was to blame.
Selling Bowler on transfer deadline day was clearly not good business both for BFC and as it turns out Josh.
So I think we have to live with Aply's appointment until the January window closes and if he feels that he hasn't been backed by then perhaps he should make the decision himself.
If that did happen I would be seriously worried for lots of other reasons than him leaving.
 
20togo said:
30 July so one game. So a little over 3 months. Similar length of time for when some were calling for Critchleys head. I don't think that's enough time to fairly assess based on other issues of which the point you mention may well be one. Pretty much it comes down to foresight v hindsight.
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3 months is plenty of time to assess imho
 
Insider said:
I thought the "Appleton out" shouts were unnecessary and a bit pathetic.
Just a point on subs yesterday. I was with Appy on that. If we had been losing on 65mins I would have considered Corbeanu and/or CJ but neither are strong defensively so hanging on on 87mins with 10 men wasn't the time to make that change or any other from those on the bench.
Like many others I would have liked to see Rosenior ahead of Appy but I didn't interview him and I honestly don't think the Board appointed Appy just to piss us all off. Whatever the guesswork from the fans on here think Appy must have been the best candidate.
Is there any point potting him now?
The summer transfer window was clearly very disappointing. Its very easy to blame Mansford but I'm not privvy to enough facts to know if he was to blame.
Selling Bowler on transfer deadline day was clearly not good business both for BFC and as it turns out Josh.
So I think we have to live with Aply's appointment until the January window closes and if he feels that he hasn't been backed by then perhaps he should make the decision himself.
If that did happen I would be seriously worried for lots of other reasons than him leaving.
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If it is a poor January transfer window and Appleton quits before he is sacked, then it's going to be a terrible look for any potential manager who would want to take over.
 
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I said the same yesterday- managers that are given time to develop are statistically the most successful by a clear distance.
Barring a small number of individuals (like Allardyce) replacing the manager has not saved teams in the season.

My heart wants him replacing as I’m upset at 4 defeats in a row and some shockers in there too. My head is calmer and tells me that it’s proven that keeping the manager works more often than it doesn’t.
 
TangerineandWhitePod said:
Phil. You’re absolutely correct. So why appoint someone who they knew would be universally unpopular if we struggled and also not make every effort to guarantee he was fully backed ?????
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Because Sadler and Bullshit don't know what they're doing. FFS, Sadler isn't immune from criticism like some seem to think. The reason we are struggling now is because of his trust in Bullshit and his inexperience in owning a football club.
 
Chunkylad said:
I said the same yesterday- managers that are given time to develop are statistically the most successful by a clear distance.
Barring a small number of individuals (like Allardyce) replacing the manager has not saved teams in the season.

My heart wants him replacing as I’m upset at 4 defeats in a row and some shockers in there too. My head is calmer and tells me that it’s proven that keeping the manager works more often than it doesn’t.
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The only issue is not sure this club will ever be the best it can be with him in charge, unless we see a drastic change in form.

There's vast swathes who just don't like him, some kind of got over it but now it's back and minds made up, many aren't going to be putting hard earned cash into watching every single game home or away if they don't like whats happening, don't feel a connection with the manager. The atmosphere was way worse after the appointment and summer we had.

That's something Critchley had, people liked him, felt a connection, he just got it and us him, or so it appeared at least, it just fit.
 
JJpool said:
The only issue is not sure this club will ever be the best it can be with him in charge, unless we see a drastic change in form.

There's vast swathes who just don't like him, some kind of got over it but now it's back and minds made up, many aren't going to be putting hard earned cash into watching every single game home or away if they don't like whats happening, don't feel a connection with the manager.

That's something Critchley had, people liked him, felt a connection, he just got it and us him, or so it appeared at least, it just fit.
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It always felt with Critch that he was one of our own. He was part of this great new journey together and his elite coaching would polish lower league youngsters into future stars.
That Prem youngsters would come for the same reason.

With MA it all felt a bit grubby and underwhelming. I hear what you say, I think they’ll persevere with him though until a few games after the break when the injuries clear a touch. If it’s no better he certainly won’t have the fans protection so the board might move then?
 
Chunkylad said:
It always felt with Critch that he was one of our own. He was part of this great new journey together and his elite coaching would polish lower league youngsters into future stars.
That Prem youngsters would come for the same reason.

With MA it all felt a bit grubby and underwhelming. I hear what you say, I think they’ll persevere with him though until a few games after the break when the injuries clear a touch. If it’s no better he certainly won’t have the fans protection so the board might move then?
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Not sure what they'll do, that was probably their plan before the Wigan game.

Obviously the main issue at Wigan was Marv, some teams manager with 10 men we never seem to be one.

But he could have changed some players earlier, also players keep making mistakes under his management.

Ultimately managers take responsibility for results.

Fans didn't connect with MA and lots definitely aren't now, can't see disharmony helping us stay up.

But they may do as you said, few games after the break, players back, no excuses.
 
JJpool said:
Not sure what they'll do, that was probably their plan before the Wigan game.

Obviously the main issue at Wigan was Marv, some teams manager with 10 men we never seem to be one.

But he could have changed some players earlier, also players keep making mistakes under his management.

Ultimately managers take responsibility for results.

Fans didn't connect with MA and lots definitely aren't now, can't see disharmony helping us stay up.

But they may do as you said, few games after the break, players back, no excuses.
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Who’s actually supposed to be back from the long term injury list after the break who can improve the team:

Bridcutt - yes but injury prone and may breakdown again
Fiorini - yes was forming a good partnership with Charlie
Keshi - can’t see him returning until the new year
Beesley - been out a long time and only played 6? games so unproven at this level but could give Gaz a rest
Stewart - doubt he will play before Feb at the earliest
Gabriel - doubt he will play before Feb at the earliest
 
TangerineBayern said:
Who’s actually supposed to be back from the long term injury list after the break who can improve the team:

Bridcutt - yes but injury prone and may breakdown again
Fiorini - yes was forming a good partnership with Charlie
Keshi - can’t see him returning until the new year
Beesley - been out a long time and only played 6? games so unproven at this level but could give Gaz a rest
Stewart - doubt he will play before Feb at the earliest
Gabriel - doubt he will play before Feb at the earliest
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Bridcutt, Fiorini, Beesley, Thorniley I think, maybe Husband.
 
The more I give it thought and the more I look at the squads and style of football (as well as the background of the coaches) Rob Edwards and Richie Kyle would be well suited to Blackpool. The squad and set up was very similar to that of Critchley (hence why Critchley targeted a couple of FGR players - albeit unsuccessful) and the players currently at Blackpool should be well suited to their style of play. Naturally at FGR punching avove their weight wasn’t too difficult for them and the same would need to happen here. They’re both excellent coaches with a high level of qualifications and a history of coaching youth players - so it would essentially be a continuation of the project in place under 🐍. Pretty sure they have plenty to prove at this level too after being potted at Watford, would have spent time learning about the Chsnpionship and players they think can thrive and the Blackpool links have to be a bonus too.
 
TANGERINETOWERPOWER said:
Why have we no chance of getting Chris Wilder?? His options are very limited now after showing his arse at Boro he is damaged goods. Idont think he will get back in at the Premier and he wont go to League 1 so what other options does he have? Luton maybe, Swansea if they get rid of Martin, Reading if they ditch Pince, Cardiff and maybe Bristol City if Pearson goes and little Old Blackpool. If we are as ambitious as has been suggested in the past then now is the only chance we will have to get him. #Dare to dream
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If the dream is Wilder, then you're having a nightmare 😉
 
hertfordseasider said:
Because Sadler and Bullshit don't know what they're doing. FFS, Sadler isn't immune from criticism like some seem to think. The reason we are struggling now is because of his trust in Bullshit and his inexperience in owning a football club.
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Could it not just be something a whole load more ordinary that has presented us with the issue. Of course, SS is inexperienced at owning a football club, but then that’s why he will rely to a greater extent in BM and other appointments… That’s no different to plenty of Club’s.

Maybe, instead of BM not knowing what he is doing, perhaps he does know what he is doing, but we’ve just been unfortunate with the timing of our last managerial exit and in making our targeted transfers happen.

Maybe it’s just one of those things that happens to all football clubs pretty much all the time, despite everyone’s best endeavours?
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
Could it not just be something a whole load more ordinary that has presented us with the issue. Of course, SS is inexperienced at owning a football club, but then that’s why he will rely to a greater extent in BM and other appointments… That’s no different to plenty of Club’s.

Maybe, instead of BM not knowing what he is doing, perhaps he does know what he is doing, but we’ve just been unfortunate with the timing of our last managerial exit and in making our targeted transfers happen.

Maybe it’s just one of those things that happens to all football clubs pretty much all the time, despite everyone’s best endeavours?
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Maybe 😉
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
Could it not just be something a whole load more ordinary that has presented us with the issue. Of course, SS is inexperienced at owning a football club, but then that’s why he will rely to a greater extent in BM and other appointments… That’s no different to plenty of Club’s.

Maybe, instead of BM not knowing what he is doing, perhaps he does know what he is doing, but we’ve just been unfortunate with the timing of our last managerial exit and in making our targeted transfers happen.

Maybe it’s just one of those things that happens to all football clubs pretty much all the time, despite everyone’s best endeavours?
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Maybe not! 🙃
 
TANGERINETOWERPOWER said:
Ok and then if we go down do we say yeah give him a chance in League 1...it wasnt his fault we went down...right now is as good a time as any to swap a manager nobody wanted and get in someone more positive, passionate and forward thinking...the new man can bring in players at the January window if the board back him...if they arent going to do that then its a moot point and it may aswell stay as it is and we can sleepwalk to relegation and lose most of the fan base and all of the progress made...no guarantee whatsoever we will get back out of league 1 and we can become the little old Blackpool some seem to think we are and and want us to be...personally I would rather dare to dream and push the boat out and get somebody different in...Chris Wilder would be my pick and before he is written off and we are told no chance he would come then lets remember he was successful at Oxford (smaller than us) Northampton (smaller than us) Sheff Utd (much bigger than us) and flopped at Boro...he now has something to prove and he may come here if the backing is there. Maybe enough people will spin the Michael Appleton bullshit about us being little old Blackpool and no bigger than Lincoln to put him off but I hope more people can get the belief that we have the potential to be something better. Maybe Im delusional and we really are a league 1/ league 2 side after all...Appleton seems to think so and doesnt believe we can compete at this level.
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Chris Wilder! You've got to be joking, have you forgotten the comments he made last season when they scabbed an injury time winner at Bloomfield Rd? I'm paraphrasing somewhat but he said these small teams raise their game when they're playing a big club. There's a reason he came unstuck at M'Boro and why he was shown the door at Sheff U despite what he achieved. He thinks it's all about him, alienates players and loses the dressing room. Be careful what you wish for.
 
Philbfctrois said:
Absolutely pathetic fans chanting for the manager to go at a match

Reminds me of the idiots away at Barnsley getting rid of Ince and look how that turned out. Multiple managers and relegations

Best fans in the land my arse

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You literally come on here and slate Sadler all the time, you're no better than the "fcuking idiots" you're moaning about.
 
Seainsea said:
Chris Wilder! You've got to be joking, have you forgotten the comments he made last season when they scabbed an injury time winner at Bloomfield Rd? I'm paraphrasing somewhat but he said these small teams raise their game when they're playing a big club. There's a reason he came unstuck at M'Boro and why he was shown the door at Sheff U despite what he achieved. He thinks it's all about him, alienates players and loses the dressing room. Be careful what you wish for.
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Id have him in a heartbeat but we are little old Blackpool so we will have to get another nomark/journeyman...the best we considered this time was apparently Appleton and Mellon...if that is true then that shows a distinct lack of ambition from the top down through the whole club
 
Philbfctrois said:
Absolutely pathetic fans chanting for the manager to go at a match

Reminds me of the idiots away at Barnsley getting rid of Ince and look how that turned out. Multiple managers and relegations

Best fans in the land my arse

Fcuking idiots more like
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Where does the motivation come from for the players ? I know they are all professionals' and should have an internal drive to succeed , but surely the manager should send them onto the pitch with "fire in their bellies" ?
On Saturday, all I saw was capitulation. We were second to every ball, weak in every tackle and worst of all giving off a couldn't care less attitude.
I admit , I didn't want Appleton as manager, but was willing to give him a chance. Now I believe the time is right for someone else to have a go, as soon as possible in the World Cup break.
He has drained the passion from the fans, which has been ebbing away throughout the season to be honest.
TIME TO GO !!!!!!!!!
 
pretty standard comment from all those wanting him sacked. "i didn't want him in the first place".
 
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