Headmaster admonishes silly schoolboy

We're trying to hold our head up high on the world stage after we have skulked away after doing the biggest act of self harm that can be imagined and we have this utter daft pillock embarrassing us even further. Francois! Go and stand in the corner you daft stupid little boy.
 
It says we're not going to reach any trade deal with you unless you enter into a reciprocal agreement over fishing rights. The UK has to let 27 member states have unlimited access to UK waters and..errr... in return the UK can fish in EU waters. Typical Barnier bluster.
 
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Mark Francois is a fool and a total embarrassment to himself, his constituents and his party.

This continual moaning, whinging and bitching from bitter and twisted Remainers is equally foolish and embarrassing.
 
and for all those who blame Corbyn's dithering for not getting us out of "the most integrated economic and free trade area in the world," sooner than we did, don't forget that the ERG helped the opposition to defeat Teresa May's deal three times. Why? to force a General Election and put Johnson in No. 10. That was their aim. Sod what was good for the country. So, now that they've achieved it we have the likes of Mark "shit for brains" Francois being humiliated by Michel Barnier and Jacob Rees-Mogg trying to force MPs to travel the length and breadth of the country in order to vote in Parliament during lockdown.
 
We're not bitter and twisted, such a childish viewpoint and ill thoughout! We're rightfully angry at how people have fallen for lies and deceit, disallusioned, concerned for our country and people and have absolutely no faith in the goons that are in charge of planning our future.
You mean angry they didn’t vote the same way you did.
 
Read your own post, your words. We’re rightfully Angry.
Don't forget the rest of it or it's out of context 'at how people have fallen for lies and deceit' - you know, a tory' favourite con but you knew what you were playing at already!! 😉
 
We're not bitter and twisted, such a childish viewpoint and ill thoughout! We're rightfully angry at how people have fallen for lies and deceit, disallusioned, concerned for our country and people and have absolutely no faith in the goons that are in charge of planning our future.

Let's face it tangiverse, with you it's all about your hatred of the Prime Minister, the government and the fact that the UK voted to leave the EU. We haven't even reached the tough part of the Brexit negotiations yet and you've already decided its a failure. Everything you say suggests you would rather the UK got a bad deal for the people of this country than succeed. And your spelling is shit.
 
You mean angry they didn’t vote the same way you did.
The only anger is that those who voted to leave did so on the basis of a lie and unachievable promises. We'd all be happy enough if we were looking forward to a better standard of life with safe and secure borders.
 
Let's face it tangiverse, with you it's all about your hatred of the Prime Minister, the government and the fact that the UK voted to leave the EU. We haven't even reached the tough part of the Brexit negotiations yet and you've already decided its a failure. Everything you say suggests you would rather the UK got a bad deal for the people of this country than succeed. And your spelling is shit.
No - it's all about how we have been led down the garden path with lies and why woud I want to have a shit deal? I live here you moron!. You can spell check that seeing as it excites you.
 
Don't forget the rest of it or it's out of context 'at how people have fallen for lies and deceit' - you know, a tory' favourite con but you knew what you were playing at already!! 😉
Classic backtracking. "Angry" is a state of mind. You used the word to express how you felt.
 
The only anger is that those who voted to leave did so on the basis of a lie and unachievable promises. We'd all be happy enough if we were looking forward to a better standard of life with safe and secure borders.
No you don't know that. You don't know the basis for why people voted the way they did. And just perhaps Corbyns promises in his election manifesto were lies and unachievable and that's why so many people didn't vote for him or his party. That's what you have a difficulty in accepting.
 
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The only anger is that those who voted to leave did so on the basis of a lie and unachievable promises. We'd all be happy enough if we were looking forward to a better standard of life with safe and secure borders.
Got that crystal ball 🔮 out again
 
To me the most important part of a very clever letter is the pointing out that Boris Johnson and his government seem to want to apply completely different rules to the ones that they previously agreed to in the political declaration signed by Boris Johnson in October last year. Who would possibly have thought that this inept, corrupt and lying government might think that the rules don't actually apply to themselves?
 
No you don't know that. You don't know the basis for why people voted the way they did. And just perhaps Corbyns promises in his election manifesto were lies and unachievable and that's why so many people didn't vote for him or his party. That's what you have a difficulty in accepting.
I do know we were promised a better deal than what we had as part of the EU. The whole campaign was built on that premise. Corbyn is an utter irrelevance to the conversation.

I also know we won't have a better deal. If that's not the case give me one single piece of evidence of how it's going to be better.
I won't hold my breath.
 
Actually we were told we would be able to strike our own trade deals with other countries outwith of the EU and that is in fact a cold hard fact ergo not a lie.

That was one of my base points for voting to leave - nothing to do with any possible future relationship with the EU. In this regard my only want was that we took back control of our own destiny in terms of law making which AFAIK is pretty much what we are getting

Thank you
 
I do know we were promised a better deal than what we had as part of the EU. The whole campaign was built on that premise. I also know we won't have a better deal. If that's not the case give me one single piece of evidence of how it's going to be better.
I won't hold my breath.

Nobody promised a better deal with the EU once we left. When you resign membership of an organisation you obviously don't get a more favourable deal with that organisation. The promise was that that we would pay less to them, which equally obviously is true. The benefits are many and varied and nothing to do with the EU. I can list them for you if want.
 
Nobody promised a better deal with the EU once we left. When you resign membership of an organisation you obviously don't get a more favourable deal with that organisation. The promise was that that we would pay less to them, which equally obviously is true. The benefits are many and varied and nothing to do with the EU. I can list them for you if want.
Utter claptrap. The whole Leave campaign was that we'd be much better off trading with the whole world rather than kowtowing to Europe. Once again rewriting history when the ink is still wet. Feel free to list benefits. I could do with a laugh.
 
I do know we were promised a better deal than what we had as part of the EU. The whole campaign was built on that premise.

The whole Leave campaign was that we'd be much better off trading with the whole world rather than kowtowing to Europe.


Make your mind up. Which was the whole campaign built on then? I'll go for the second one. Your first post was nonsense and you know it.
 
Make your mind up. Which was the whole campaign built on then? I'll go for the second one. Your first post was nonsense and you know it.
The two aren't incompatible. We'd have better deals with the rest of the world rather than focusing on Europe. As it is were losing goodwill and preferential deals with Europe and the likelihood of higher tariffs and have very little in place to replace it.
 
The two aren't incompatible. We'd have better deals with the rest of the world rather than focusing on Europe. As it is were losing goodwill and preferential deals with Europe and the likelihood of higher tariffs and have very little in place to replace it.

I totally agree that we'd be free to strike better deals with the rest of the world rather than focusing on Europe. And hopefully, if agreement can be reached we'll have a zero-tariff trade deal with the EU as well. That's the aim. In addition, we'll be free to stop paying fortunes to the EU, we'll have control of our borders, make our own laws, have full control of our judicial system, re-assert sovereignty; set our own tax rates, be in charge of our own fisheries and agricultural policies and most importantly, we'll be free from the EU’s control and commitment to even closer political union.
 
The killer line "The political declaration agreed with your prime minister and voted for in the houses of parliament, including yourself"
Boom.
 
I totally agree that we'd be free to strike better deals with the rest of the world rather than focusing on Europe. And hopefully, if agreement can be reached we'll have a zero-tariff trade deal with the EU as well. That's the aim. In addition, we'll be free to stop paying fortunes to the EU, we'll have control of our borders, make our own laws, have full control of our judicial system, re-assert sovereignty; set our own tax rates, be in charge of our own fisheries and agricultural policies and most importantly, we'll be free from the EU’s control and commitment to even closer political union.
Thick as a submarine door.....I'm done with people who spout utter nonsense about borders, laws, paying fortunes to the EU. Yawn zzzzz
 
I totally agree that we'd be free to strike better deals with the rest of the world rather than focusing on Europe. And hopefully, if agreement can be reached we'll have a zero-tariff trade deal with the EU as well. That's the aim. In addition, we'll be free to stop paying fortunes to the EU, we'll have control of our borders, make our own laws, have full control of our judicial system, re-assert sovereignty; set our own tax rates, be in charge of our own fisheries and agricultural policies and most importantly, we'll be free from the EU’s control and commitment to even closer political union.
We've five months to set up those trade deals, which usually take around a decade. Can we do that? Let's hope so, otherwise it's just pie in the sky wishful thinking, and that's no basis for hard nosed economic strategies and governance.
 
We've five months to set up those trade deals, which usually take around a decade. Can we do that? Let's hope so, otherwise it's just pie in the sky wishful thinking, and that's no basis for hard nosed economic strategies and governance.

Frankly, five months isn't anywhere near enough to agree comprehensive deals so what I hope and expect to see is a basic free trade agreement on a duty free tariff, which we effectively already have, and agreement in principle on the level playing field debate, that is on regulatory issues which can be further negotiated, argued and refined over the following years. In view of what's at stake for both sides it would be madness to do anything else.
 
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Well what I hope and expect are a brand new shiny BMW and Toyota on my driveway AS PROMISED!!!!

I reaaaalllly hope I’m not going to be disappointed!!!!!
 
Frankly, five months isn't anywhere enough to agree comprehensive deals so what I hope and expect to see is a basic free trade agreement on a duty free tariff, which we effectively already have, and agreement in principle on the level playing field debate, that is on regulatory issues which can be further negotiated, argued and refined over the following years. In view of what's at stake for both sides it would be madness to do anything else.
I don't think there will be a duty free tariff. Supermarket chiefs forecasting huge rises in the cost of imported food.
 
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