Shandypants
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Great letter, puts foolish "SAS Mark" in his place
We're not bitter and twisted, such a childish viewpoint and ill thoughout! We're rightfully angry at how people have fallen for lies and deceit, disallusioned, concerned for our country and people and have absolutely no faith in the goons that are in charge of planning our future.bitter and twisted Remainers
You mean angry they didn’t vote the same way you did.We're not bitter and twisted, such a childish viewpoint and ill thoughout! We're rightfully angry at how people have fallen for lies and deceit, disallusioned, concerned for our country and people and have absolutely no faith in the goons that are in charge of planning our future.
I think I put enough adjectives for you to grasp the overall meaning. Angry is 'your' word not mine.You mean angry they didn’t vote the same way you did.
Don't forget the rest of it or it's out of context 'at how people have fallen for lies and deceit' - you know, a tory' favourite con but you knew what you were playing at already!!Read your own post, your words. We’re rightfully Angry.
We're not bitter and twisted, such a childish viewpoint and ill thoughout! We're rightfully angry at how people have fallen for lies and deceit, disallusioned, concerned for our country and people and have absolutely no faith in the goons that are in charge of planning our future.
The only anger is that those who voted to leave did so on the basis of a lie and unachievable promises. We'd all be happy enough if we were looking forward to a better standard of life with safe and secure borders.You mean angry they didn’t vote the same way you did.
No - it's all about how we have been led down the garden path with lies and why woud I want to have a shit deal? I live here you moron!. You can spell check that seeing as it excites you.Let's face it tangiverse, with you it's all about your hatred of the Prime Minister, the government and the fact that the UK voted to leave the EU. We haven't even reached the tough part of the Brexit negotiations yet and you've already decided its a failure. Everything you say suggests you would rather the UK got a bad deal for the people of this country than succeed. And your spelling is shit.
No - it's all about how we have been led down the garden path with lies and why woud I want to have a shit deal? I live here you moron!. You can spell check that seeing as it excites you.
Classic backtracking. "Angry" is a state of mind. You used the word to express how you felt.Don't forget the rest of it or it's out of context 'at how people have fallen for lies and deceit' - you know, a tory' favourite con but you knew what you were playing at already!!
No you don't know that. You don't know the basis for why people voted the way they did. And just perhaps Corbyns promises in his election manifesto were lies and unachievable and that's why so many people didn't vote for him or his party. That's what you have a difficulty in accepting.The only anger is that those who voted to leave did so on the basis of a lie and unachievable promises. We'd all be happy enough if we were looking forward to a better standard of life with safe and secure borders.
Got that crystal ball out againThe only anger is that those who voted to leave did so on the basis of a lie and unachievable promises. We'd all be happy enough if we were looking forward to a better standard of life with safe and secure borders.
Give me one shred of evidence that says any of that. Just one. It doesn't need Mystic Meg to tell us we won't be getting what we were promised any time soon if not at all.Got that crystal ball out again
I do know we were promised a better deal than what we had as part of the EU. The whole campaign was built on that premise. Corbyn is an utter irrelevance to the conversation.No you don't know that. You don't know the basis for why people voted the way they did. And just perhaps Corbyns promises in his election manifesto were lies and unachievable and that's why so many people didn't vote for him or his party. That's what you have a difficulty in accepting.
He knows that. We all get caught out by fat-finger syndrome when posting so your picking out of that misspelling is somewhat feeble. If you want a more considered reply to your Brexit views then concentrate on posting about them rather than spelling errors.It's 'would'
I do know we were promised a better deal than what we had as part of the EU. The whole campaign was built on that premise. I also know we won't have a better deal. If that's not the case give me one single piece of evidence of how it's going to be better.
I won't hold my breath.
Utter claptrap. The whole Leave campaign was that we'd be much better off trading with the whole world rather than kowtowing to Europe. Once again rewriting history when the ink is still wet. Feel free to list benefits. I could do with a laugh.Nobody promised a better deal with the EU once we left. When you resign membership of an organisation you obviously don't get a more favourable deal with that organisation. The promise was that that we would pay less to them, which equally obviously is true. The benefits are many and varied and nothing to do with the EU. I can list them for you if want.
I do know we were promised a better deal than what we had as part of the EU. The whole campaign was built on that premise.
The whole Leave campaign was that we'd be much better off trading with the whole world rather than kowtowing to Europe.
The two aren't incompatible. We'd have better deals with the rest of the world rather than focusing on Europe. As it is were losing goodwill and preferential deals with Europe and the likelihood of higher tariffs and have very little in place to replace it.Make your mind up. Which was the whole campaign built on then? I'll go for the second one. Your first post was nonsense and you know it.
The two aren't incompatible. We'd have better deals with the rest of the world rather than focusing on Europe. As it is were losing goodwill and preferential deals with Europe and the likelihood of higher tariffs and have very little in place to replace it.
Thick as a submarine door.....I'm done with people who spout utter nonsense about borders, laws, paying fortunes to the EU. Yawn zzzzzI totally agree that we'd be free to strike better deals with the rest of the world rather than focusing on Europe. And hopefully, if agreement can be reached we'll have a zero-tariff trade deal with the EU as well. That's the aim. In addition, we'll be free to stop paying fortunes to the EU, we'll have control of our borders, make our own laws, have full control of our judicial system, re-assert sovereignty; set our own tax rates, be in charge of our own fisheries and agricultural policies and most importantly, we'll be free from the EU’s control and commitment to even closer political union.
Is that a promise? Maybe you'll have something to say about football now. It'll make a change for you.Thick as a submarine door.....I'm done with people who spout utter nonsense about borders, laws, paying fortunes to the EU. Yawn zzzzz
Thick as a submarine door.....I'm done with people who spout utter nonsense about borders, laws, paying fortunes to the EU. Yawn zzzzz
We've five months to set up those trade deals, which usually take around a decade. Can we do that? Let's hope so, otherwise it's just pie in the sky wishful thinking, and that's no basis for hard nosed economic strategies and governance.I totally agree that we'd be free to strike better deals with the rest of the world rather than focusing on Europe. And hopefully, if agreement can be reached we'll have a zero-tariff trade deal with the EU as well. That's the aim. In addition, we'll be free to stop paying fortunes to the EU, we'll have control of our borders, make our own laws, have full control of our judicial system, re-assert sovereignty; set our own tax rates, be in charge of our own fisheries and agricultural policies and most importantly, we'll be free from the EU’s control and commitment to even closer political union.
We've five months to set up those trade deals, which usually take around a decade. Can we do that? Let's hope so, otherwise it's just pie in the sky wishful thinking, and that's no basis for hard nosed economic strategies and governance.
I don't think there will be a duty free tariff. Supermarket chiefs forecasting huge rises in the cost of imported food.Frankly, five months isn't anywhere enough to agree comprehensive deals so what I hope and expect to see is a basic free trade agreement on a duty free tariff, which we effectively already have, and agreement in principle on the level playing field debate, that is on regulatory issues which can be further negotiated, argued and refined over the following years. In view of what's at stake for both sides it would be madness to do anything else.
I don't think there will be a duty free tariff. Supermarket chiefs forecasting huge rises in the cost of imported food.
Hopefully? The rules aren't in place. That's the point.Costs will be determined by the usual competition and supply rules. Customs duty rates will be added to the cost, hopefully at nil rate.