I hope it was worth it

Philbfctrois

Philbfctrois

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Selling Bowler

Or cashing in ......

Seeing a mixture of Jerry running himself ragged without the ball or Theo failing to beat his man or CJ not being able to trap a bag of cement

Poveda isn't fit yet was somehow meant to be a Bowler replacement

Bowler would have tore them a new one last night

I said at the time that cashing in on Bowler was a truly awful bit of business, it really is and we are paying a high price
 
I think the way they bought him and then loaned him out to a team who is not playing him will stick in the craw for a long time.
Whoever advised him clearly only did it for the money but when a player wants to go, they will go.
Would he have been the same player if we'd denied him, who knows, but I can't blame the club for this one.
Maybe we should have fought a bit more to keep him but either way the real loser was Bowler.
 
WestStandWaller said:
I think the way they bought him and then loaned him out to a team who is not playing him will stick in the craw for a long time.
Whoever advised him clearly only did it for the money but when a player wants to go, they will go.
Would he have been the same player if we'd denied him, who knows, but I can't blame the club for this one.
Maybe we should have fought a bit more to keep him but either way the real loser was Bowler.
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Its completely the clubs fault
 
Philbfctrois said:
Selling Bowler

Or cashing in ......

Seeing a mixture of Jerry running himself ragged without the ball or Theo failing to beat his man or CJ not being able to trap a bag of cement

Poveda isn't fit yet was somehow meant to be a Bowler replacement

Bowler would have tore them a new one last night

I said at the time that cashing in on Bowler was a truly awful bit of business, it really is and we are paying a high price
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You’re right about missing him more than some thought we would. But what really sticks in my craw, is posters on here saying now the Os have gone we know any money made from selling players will be invested in the playing side. Oh yeah Mmmmmm.🤔
 
Philbfctrois said:
Selling Bowler

Or cashing in ......

Seeing a mixture of Jerry running himself ragged without the ball or Theo failing to beat his man or CJ not being able to trap a bag of cement

Poveda isn't fit yet was somehow meant to be a Bowler replacement

Bowler would have tore them a new one last night

I said at the time that cashing in on Bowler was a truly awful bit of business, it really is and we are paying a high price
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I'm with you Phil. Saturday's battling display took the pressure off the board, but it didn't convince me that all is rosey in the tangerine garden.
I'm also still annoyed that the board didn't spend the money from Josh & Judas (edit: and Keogh), buying Championship quality players.
Rovers kept their star striker and they now sit at the top of the division.
 
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Philbfctrois said:
Selling Bowler

Or cashing in ......

Seeing a mixture of Jerry running himself ragged without the ball or Theo failing to beat his man or CJ not being able to trap a bag of cement

Poveda isn't fit yet was somehow meant to be a Bowler replacement

Bowler would have tore them a new one last night

I said at the time that cashing in on Bowler was a truly awful bit of business, it really is and we are paying a high price
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Theo beat his man plenty and put in some beautiful crosses in the first half, our goal for one.
As for the second half I have nothing to say!
 
Philbfctrois said:
Selling Bowler

Or cashing in ......

Seeing a mixture of Jerry running himself ragged without the ball or Theo failing to beat his man or CJ not being able to trap a bag of cement

Poveda isn't fit yet was somehow meant to be a Bowler replacement

Bowler would have tore them a new one last night

I said at the time that cashing in on Bowler was a truly awful bit of business, it really is and we are paying a high price
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Were we not told by the Club that Poveda was signed prior to Bowler leaving so that we had a replacement ready to go if we sold him close to the window closing…

It’s just nobody asked Poveda if he would be fit to play 😳
 
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Lost Seasider said:
Ultimately, the club can't afford to spend £4m on one player for one season, so Bowler had to go.
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Yes, but when he did we had to ensure suitable time and secure some replacements with what we still have, some of the Critch money and Bowlers.

Getting in 2 or 3 real quality players would have helped, probably strengthen the spine of the team would have been the way to go.

Easier said than done, especially with our wages but thats what we needed, if we thought we had some form of replacements with Corbeanu and Poveda already, then a CB Midfielder and striker of decent quality with that cash would leave us far stronger.
 
Lost Seasider said:
Ultimately, the club can't afford to spend £4m on one player for one season, so Bowler had to go.
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Been here before. Jan 2011 KOKO thought we were safe. 28pts in the bag. You were guaranteed £35m before anything else for the next season in the Prem. A good businessman would have spent £5m to ensure a £35m return. We didn't Wolves did and bought O'Hara and they stayed up.
£4m for Bowler is the final maximum figure isn't it? Appearance based etc..

The cost to the club between the Championship and Div 3 is said to be as a minimum £8m.

We have to ensure survival. What it takes whether it be £1,2 or 4 million the return is financially worth it, and more.

Some "big" clubs in that division nowadays and they all can't go up...
Ipshit
Massive
Derby
Pompey
Charlton
Barnsley
Even Horwich
 
Mcewans Mullet said:
Been here before. Jan 2011 KOKO thought we were safe. 28pts in the bag. You were guaranteed £35m before anything else for the next season in the Prem. A good businessman would have spent £5m to ensure a £35m return. We didn't Wolves did and bought O'Hara and they stayed up.
£4m for Bowler is the final maximum figure isn't it? Appearance based etc..

The cost to the club between the Championship and Div 3 is said to be as a minimum £8m.

We have to ensure survival. What it takes whether it be £1,2 or 4 million the return is financially worth it, and more.

Some "big" clubs in that division nowadays and they all can't go up...
Ipshit
Massive
Derby
Pompey
Charlton
Barnsley
Even Horwich
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It's a bit more complicated than that, turnover might go down by that amount, but league 1 wages are lower as well.

In any event, who says that Bowler would've kept us up, or done any better than Corbeanu or Poveda?
 
Philbfctrois said:
Selling Bowler

Or cashing in ......

Seeing a mixture of Jerry running himself ragged without the ball or Theo failing to beat his man or CJ not being able to trap a bag of cement

Poveda isn't fit yet was somehow meant to be a Bowler replacement

Bowler would have tore them a new one last night

I said at the time that cashing in on Bowler was a truly awful bit of business, it really is and we are paying a high price
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Phil
I really hope you join the Tory Party and stand to be the next PM as you are soooo clever
Cambers
 
4 million gained in the championship , only to lose out on 6 million in league 1next season is about how it’s looking right now.
If we’d had a player or two lined up with that money, it would be one thing, but those funds (or installments) are doing nothing for us now.
 
Philbfctrois said:
Nonsense he was under contract the club chose to sell him
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A player gets a whopping offer. Like all of us, and especially footballers with their limited careers, he's gonna want to take it.

A club that stands in the way is asking for a bad outcome ... and one that could leave them with nothing to show for it.

I like Appleton. I think we have enough to stay up, but it's going to be a battle.
 
Philbfctrois said:
Selling Bowler

Or cashing in ......

Seeing a mixture of Jerry running himself ragged without the ball or Theo failing to beat his man or CJ not being able to trap a bag of cement

Poveda isn't fit yet was somehow meant to be a Bowler replacement

Bowler would have tore them a new one last night

I said at the time that cashing in on Bowler was a truly awful bit of business, it really is and we are paying a high price
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If Bowler had played against Sheff Utd we would have lost 3-1 ,because of other players passing to Yates he got the chances to score . Bowler would have blazed it over the bar or tried to beat a few extra players . How can Bowler be missed in one game ,but not in another . He has been found out in Greece and I can't understand why people from Blackpool are slow to recognise he is greedy and days when he wins us games I believe he has lost us more. I suppose some people are a bit slower than others.
 
Once again a poor performance has brought the major moaners out. We have played some good football this season and some bad . Just like last season .So in my eyes nothing has changed much on the field . What has changed is we got £4 million for a reserve in the Greek league . Well done Blackpool.
 
Philbfctrois said:
Selling Bowler

Or cashing in ......

Seeing a mixture of Jerry running himself ragged without the ball or Theo failing to beat his man or CJ not being able to trap a bag of cement

Poveda isn't fit yet was somehow meant to be a Bowler replacement

Bowler would have tore them a new one last night

I said at the time that cashing in on Bowler was a truly awful bit of business, it really is and we are paying a high price
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There's just no point in keeping a player who's contract is running out and doesn't want to be here, anyone would cash in I'm afraid.

The mistake was not replacing him or investing it in the squad, everyone knew he was going, everyone except all of our highly paid executives apparently. Now where have we heard that before?
 
The flip flopping some fans do is just insane to witness, after Sheffield United it was clicking and all this and the football is great. A bad result 4 days later and we're relegation fodder.

The last few weeks will have taken it out the players, and Sheffield United will especially taken it out of us. We've played Norwich, Sunderland, Watford and Sheffield United on the bounce and the players gave it their all each time and went toe to toe with all of 'em. We had 9 players out last night through injury/suspension and I bet the players were physically and mentally spent.

It shocks me how quick people are to turn on this team and manager. Critchley had the benefit of fans who got behind the team no matter what, Appleton isn't being afforded the same and sometimes it can be the difference - those in the North who aren't getting behind the team need to change their season ticket to the South Stand.
 
WIZARD OF TANGERINE said:
If Bowler had played against Sheff Utd we would have lost 3-1 ,because of other players passing to Yates he got the chances to score . Bowler would have blazed it over the bar or tried to beat a few extra players . How can Bowler be missed in one game ,but not in another . He has been found out in Greece and I can't understand why people from Blackpool are slow to recognise he is greedy and days when he wins us games I believe he has lost us more. I suppose some people are a bit slower than others
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what a really sad person you must be that you feel the need to come on and ridicule a Blackpool player who gave fans a lot of happy memories and who we sold to a PL club who they hope is an investment for the future. I suppose you no doubt thought last nights game was entertaining too.
 
WIZARD OF TANGERINE said:
Once again a poor performance has brought the major moaners out. We have played some good football this season and some bad . Just like last season .So in my eyes nothing has changed much on the field . What has changed is we got £4 million for a reserve in the Greek league . Well done Blackpool.
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We haven't had 4 million
 
WIZARD OF TANGERINE said:
If Bowler had played against Sheff Utd we would have lost 3-1 ,because of other players passing to Yates he got the chances to score . Bowler would have blazed it over the bar or tried to beat a few extra players . How can Bowler be missed in one game ,but not in another . He has been found out in Greece and I can't understand why people from Blackpool are slow to recognise he is greedy and days when he wins us games I believe he has lost us more. I suppose some people are a bit slower than others.
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What a stupid post that is. Proper football illiterate.

What games did he lose us? Love to know. So come on and share it with us.

I could name you ten off the top of my head he won us or was key in getting us points.

“I can’t understand why people from Blackpool are slow to recognise” quality players when they play for us.
 
Just ignoring Bowler and his impact for the mo, the model, as I understand it, was to bring players on, sell them for decent money and then start again. So with a 5m windfall kitty, the model should produce signings of 2/3 players of around the 1.5m mark. This leaves money over and affords the possibility of selling them in a 'different market' with bigger profits and then the model continues.....

So losing a player like Bowler for no real team strengthening comes with a massive risk. Potentially losing 8m to gain 4. Whilst I like the loans, they don't back up the model and in the case of Bowlers replacement isn't really match fit enough.

Personally, I think we'll be fine and thank God some PL managers trust MA.

Perhaps January will see the model (sorry for overuse of the word) back on track. It needs to as otherwise next summer is going to be a mare.
 
Lost Seasider said:
It's a bit more complicated than that, turnover might go down by that amount, but league 1 wages are lower as well.

In any event, who says that Bowler would've kept us up, or done any better than Corbeanu or Poveda?
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He would have done better than Corbeanu and Poveda combined.
 
20togo said:
what a really sad person you must be that you feel the need to come on and ridicule a Blackpool player who gave fans a lot of happy memories and who we sold to a PL club who they hope is an investment for the future. I suppose you no doubt thought last nights game was entertaining too.
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No ,We were poor ,but I can speak my mind and that is that he has been found out and he may have been entertaining ,but his greed cost us.
 
Adams Kebab said:
What a stupid post that is. Proper football illiterate.

What games did he lose us? Love to know. So come on and share it with us.

I could name you ten off the top of my head he won us or was key in getting us points.

“I can’t understand why people from Blackpool are slow to recognise” quality players when they play for us.
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How can I list every time he took on too many players ,or balloon the ball over the bar . Does it not tell you something when he went to assist Olypiacos and can just about make the bench.
 
If Bowler had wanted to stay, he would have stayed, regardless of whether Pool would have lost out financially. It was HIS choice. What part of this do Pool supporters not understand ?
 
WestStandWaller said:
I think the way they bought him and then loaned him out to a team who is not playing him will stick in the craw for a long time.
Whoever advised him clearly only did it for the money but when a player wants to go, they will go.
Would he have been the same player if we'd denied him, who knows, but I can't blame the club for this one.
Maybe we should have fought a bit more to keep him but either way the real loser was Bowler.
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If a players wants to go because the money is better elsewhere then there is nothing the club can do about it. I would have advised him not to do it.
 
Middxile said:
If Bowler had wanted to stay, he would have stayed, regardless of whether Pool would have lost out financially. It was HIS choice. What part of this do Pool supporters not understand ?
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It doesn’t matter what the player wants as the club holds his contract

What part of that don't people understand
 
Middxile said:
If Bowler had wanted to stay, he would have stayed, regardless of whether Pool would have lost out financially. It was HIS choice. What part of this do Pool supporters not understand ?
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Whilst I agree if a player wants to go, then he'll find a way, there is also the other side in that he couldn't go until a club trigger a clause or we accepted a fee. If he had no clause, then tough titty Josh and there is the obvious reason of why he didn't. We could have turned down bids and even waited for the January panic bids. Sure, JB would have been pissed off, but the reality would have clicked in pdq.
 
o/p sounds like "I publicly endorsed Appleton and therefore I need someone else to blame for the poor performances".
 
WIZARD OF TANGERINE said:
How can I list every time he took on too many players ,or balloon the ball over the bar . Does it not tell you something when he went to assist Olypiacos and can just about make the bench.
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So you don’t know then, good stuff.

He signed for Forest who sent him on loan to their basket Club abroad.

Josh Bowler was one of the best attacking players in the Championship, to suggest anything else is just stupid. Which you are highlighting very well.
 
Adams Kebab said:
So you don’t know then, good stuff.

He signed for Forest who sent him on loan to their basket Club abroad.

Josh Bowler was one of the best attacking players in the Championship, to suggest anything else is just stupid. Which you are highlighting very well.
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I would add if he was still here he'd be a far better player than he is now.
 
Ok ,I have come on here and given my opinion . If you don't like it ,HARD CHEESE . It seems that all these experts on here think they know more then the Management and trainers at Nottingham Forest who felt he wasn't good enough to play for them and then the management and trainers in Greece who realised he wasn't good enough for their team either . Well some fans seem to get upset because we are referred to as little old Blackpool .Well I wonder why when we are harping on about a player that's gone and some fans think we need him to survive. That maybe why we are little old Blackpool. Just get a grip and this post is like 5 months too late.
 
Couple of disappointing things for me the lateness of this the deal and how he was then loaned out to the Greek side.
Why we couldn't have taken a million less in a fee(basically paying his wages) and then kept him here for the rest of the season.
 
Pool COULD have kept him against his wishes, but then would have an unhappy player. If he had wanted to stay, he would and could have. He didn’t !
 
WIZARD OF TANGERINE said:
Ok ,I have come on here and given my opinion . If you don't like it ,HARD CHEESE . It seems that all these experts on here think they know more then the Management and trainers at Nottingham Forest who felt he wasn't good enough to play for them and then the management and trainers in Greece who realised he wasn't good enough for their team either . Well some fans seem to get upset because we are referred to as little old Blackpool .Well I wonder why when we are harping on about a player that's gone and some fans think we need him to survive. That maybe why we are little old Blackpool. Just get a grip and this post is like 5 months too late.
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Hard Cheese 🤣

I sometimes think to myself are these people real? 🤪
 
WIZARD OF TANGERINE said:
Ok ,I have come on here and given my opinion . If you don't like it ,HARD CHEESE . It seems that all these experts on here think they know more then the Management and trainers at Nottingham Forest who felt he wasn't good enough to play for them and then the management and trainers in Greece who realised he wasn't good enough for their team either . Well some fans seem to get upset because we are referred to as little old Blackpool .Well I wonder why when we are harping on about a player that's gone and some fans think we need him to survive. That maybe why we are little old Blackpool. Just get a grip and this post is like 5 months too late.
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clueless again. I suppose you think Bowler when he signed for Forest wouldn't have had a clue about him being loaned out , yet somehow the deal to sign him and to loan him to Olympiakos all happened within 24 hours. Of course, he knew what the deal was and for what was reputedly four or five times his current wage why should he not have a year out in Greece.

We all have our opinions on players and we all have our favourites but to post such disparaging remarks is rather sad and pathetic.
 
Had I been Bowler, and I had been presented with the opportunity to triple/ quadruple (?) my money, plus a year in the Sun, luxury apartment/villa and car, my only question would have been….” Where’s my pen ?”
 
I said months ago that the recruitment team weren't fit for purpose and got slated by certain people.
"Hi Simon, we can get £4m for Josh. Have we got a replacement lined up?Yeah, don't worry,it's sorted"
Ok go for it"

No idea but plausible
 
Middxile said:
Had I been Bowler, and I had been presented with the opportunity to triple/ quadruple (?) my money, plus a year in the Sun, luxury apartment/villa and car, my only question would have been….” Where’s my pen ?”
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now that I agree with.
 
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