sorry but I don't buy into that one bit. Think you're in denial. The reason it's currently come to the fore is because of the situation now in Israel/Gaza.
It can't be interpreted any other way at all
No denial from me. So it's an intractable situation, is that what you're saying? It will always be like this?
Check out what it says on Wikipedia.
Ok you are just an idiot then
You'd agree, wouldn't you.
Who wouldn’t be after the massacres on 7th October?
So, what do you think "Khaybar, Khaybar, Ya Yahud, jaish Muhammad soufa ya’ou (Khaybar Khaybar oh Jews, the army of Muhammad will return)" means?
Two points.
Yep I've had multiple posts removed on this subject
I was replying to a comment made why the Israeli government is hell bent on eradicating Hamas that’s all.
I’m not a moderator.
Thanks for your reply. Sorry about the slight delay in replying. With regard to " Freedom fighters ": the history of independence struggles is littered with examples of people designated terrorists who committed atrocities but who subsequently became heroes. I gave the example of Menachem Begin , who contributed to the slaughter of both British troops and Arabs. I shouldn't need to repeat it but I abhor violence, I abhor what Hamas did on 7th October. I abhor the Israeli Defence Force killing innocent men, women and children. I abhor the utter disregard for rights on all sides ( including the West Bank, where Israeli settlers act with impunity, taking land that is not theirs, disposessing and murdering innocent Palestinians in the process. I abhor it all.
It takes one to know one.
I was actually giving you the benefit of doubt
Not sure how to answer that, tbh. What I think is, based on Netanyahu's speech, with map, there will be no Palestinian territories. I support Israel's right to exist, just as I support the Palestinians' right to have their own independent country.
About what, o wise one?
www.theguardian.com
Let me answer it for you then, it's a reference to a 7th century battle fought by Mohammed, which ultimately resulted in the expulsion of all Jews from Palestine, so what it means is "dear Jews, remember the last time we killed or exiled all of you, we hope to do so again, real soon".
Maybe we should ban the Scottish National Anthem and some of the latter verses of the British one aswell if we don't want anybody singing about historical battles and the defeat of their neighbours.
A lot of them do pal
It's a total mess with no end in sight. I am for a free Israel and a free Palestine, which all Palestinians can call their home and be free. Same for Israelis, although they have theirs.
Can you define the geographical area that "free Palestine" would cover?
Agreed. When you start getting threatened at matches by people you don't know, you, do wonder why you bother.
Zzzzzzzzz
I do but it appears sone deliberately choose to turn a blind eye to it. Funniest but is these people would be terrified under the rule of these Countries they “sympathise” with
You are so incredibly capable of deluding yourself
Does that mean it isn't credible that he is capable of self-delusion?
You could always write to your MP...or just sound off on here. Whichever gives you the greater satisfaction.
what, going to matches?
Yep and some of these people didn't want the World Cup in an Arab country
It's not for me to define. I assumed you would realise that. That's a silly question.
It seems a pretty simple question, if you're calling for a free Palestine, then surely you should know what you mean by Palestine.
Unfortunately, the Palestinian people have just unambiguously demonstrated what a "free Palestine" would look like, i.e. a terrorist state that exists solely to launch attacks against Israel, with the objective of killing as many Israelis as possible, so post 7/10, any chance of such a state is now off the table permanently.
You ain’t wrong
I very rarely am mate
No they haven't! Your first sentence is total, utter ignorance. There are more than 2 MILLION people, mostly poor and living in squalor, in Gaza alone. The West Bank is an absolute inhuman disgrace on the part of Israel. Please! "If they want a country of their own"... They were and still are dispossessed. They were thrown out of their own land. It's still happening in the West Bank.
Like it or not, Hamas were elected to form the government in 2006, the fact that they were able to seize power absolutely in 2007 stems from this fact, they are the official voice of the people of Gaza.
They dont know and they never will
Yep, it's strange, isn't it, they're calling for a "free Palestine" apparently without the faintest idea of what a "free Palestine" might be, let alone how it might be made to work without being an intolerable security risk to Israel.
I honestly struggle with how intolerant the left our on this board
I agree.
what does a ceasefire achieve? Is it reasonable to think it includes allowing Hamas to regroup, to perhaps take supplies meant for everybody rather than just those who are digging in preparing for a fight. Israel know that. Is it reasonable to think Hamas are using innocent Palestinians as a human shield yet the consensus on here seems to fail to realise that and solely blaming Israel. Israel are fighting a war because of the actions of Hamas on 7/10. That's the stark reality.
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