Jimmy Armfield Mural Update 🧡🧡🧡🧡

Levi501 said:
Just been passed The Armfield and had a good chat with Purdonkey who is ‘operating’ on Jimmy till Wednesday. It’s looking like Jimmy will be making a speedy recovery!
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That's good news. I was surprised he wasn't the one to do the original given his links to the club.. Always enjoyed his work 👍
 
Evening all, Just an update on todays work. Obviously as stated previously its difficult to try and rectify issues using another artists template, all I can say is I've done what I can with what I had, the hairline is sorted as is the line to the right which gave it a bulbous impression, the eyes have more shape and the lines/bags have been softened somewhat.
If I'm being honest, I still feel its not 100% right, but it is improved.
Unfortunately I didn't have time to get across to the signage and the text needs work, I'm hoping now the face is a tad better the original artist might return to soften things further by working to my markers. Trying to accomplish a spray effect with paint isn't an easy task.
In defence of the original artist the image used is a difficult one to accomplish, added to the fact it is all on a lean which makes lining up features pretty difficult when working in close proximity.
In retrospect it may have been better to use the same method we see on the Sea life centre where a photographic image/montage is enlarged and stretched across, It would have eradicated faults and probably cost less overall.



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Dark_Side_of_the_Lune said:
Isn’t there still one roll of fat too many? It is a huge improvement on original work
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There is, tbh all I've tried to do is go in and improve what was there in the time I had at my disposal. I tried to break up the lines on the torso, they are very harsh which gives the impression of rolls, they need softening further but that would be with spray paint for it to look seamless
Big_Flag_Man said:
No @Purdonkey was still grafting away ,he looked a bit warm up there .😰😰
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It was hell, combined with the fact I have an strong aversion to heights it fell short of being my most enjoyable day ever 🤣 🤣
 
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What are the white dots?

Definitely some improvements to the hairline, eyes I would have to see from a similar distance, but probably better.

Looked a far smoother face before.
 
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I'm in agreement with you. If you look at my previous comments further up, I did state the contrast of paint and spray are apparent, Id now personally like to see the original artist come back and soften the markers so it knits together better. That parts up to the powers that be though, I've simply volunteered my time to come in and try to help improve the likeness a tad. Its not 100% but Its a step closer I think 🍊👍
 
Purdonkey said:
I'm in agreement with you. If you look at my previous comments further up, I did state the contrast of paint and spray are apparent, Id now personally like to see the original artist come back and soften the markers so it knits together better. That parts up to the powers that be though, I've simply volunteered my time to come in and try to help improve the likeness a tad. Its not 100% but Its a step closer I think 🍊👍
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Yep definitely some improvements and I'm sure when viewed from a normal viewing distance, not like that close pic 😬, then it'll be even less apparent.

Is there some sort of issue with the original artist not coming back?
 
JJpool said:
Yep definitely some improvements and I'm sure when viewed from a normal viewing distance, not like that close pic 😬, then it'll be even less apparent.

Is there some sort of issue with the original artist not coming back?
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Not sure what the script is tbh
 
Please lets stop this now. It's awful. It looks nothing like the great man and has become an embarrassment. I have nothing but respect for the people that raised the money for the mural. What is meant to be a heartfelt tribute exposes a great player and ambassador to ridicule. The task at hand proved to be a little beyond the abilities of the artist and so lets move on. I think Jimmy deserves better than a patch up job or the dreaded 'It'll do'. Sometimes things just don't work out - this is one of those times. Let's start again and write off a bad job. I found this the other day - it shows what is possible, a really accurate depiction of Tony Wilson in Manchester. This is the standard we should be aiming for if not better and if we can't manage it then lets call it a day.

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Morty said:
Please lets stop this now. It's awful. It looks nothing like the great man and has become an embarrassment. I have nothing but respect for the people that raised the money for the mural. What is meant to be a heartfelt tribute exposes a great player and ambassador to ridicule. The task at hand proved to be a little beyond the abilities of the artist and so lets move on. I think Jimmy deserves better than a patch up job or the dreaded 'It'll do'. Sometimes things just don't work out - this is one of those times. Let's start again and write off a bad job. I found this the other day - it shows what is possible, a really accurate depiction of Tony Wilson in Manchester. This is the standard we should be aiming for if not better and if we can't manage it then lets call it a day.

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Have to agree, unfortunately. That’s no disrespect to Purdonkey’s efforts to improve it - his art is mint.
You can’t make a silk purse from a pig’s ear.
 
Purdonkey said:
I'm in agreement with you. If you look at my previous comments further up, I did state the contrast of paint and spray are apparent, Id now personally like to see the original artist come back and soften the markers so it knits together better. That parts up to the powers that be though, I've simply volunteered my time to come in and try to help improve the likeness a tad. Its not 100% but Its a step closer I think 🍊👍
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As you say Rob not 100%, but100% better.
 
Morty said:
Please lets stop this now. It's awful. It looks nothing like the great man and has become an embarrassment. I have nothing but respect for the people that raised the money for the mural. What is meant to be a heartfelt tribute exposes a great player and ambassador to ridicule. The task at hand proved to be a little beyond the abilities of the artist and so lets move on. I think Jimmy deserves better than a patch up job or the dreaded 'It'll do'. Sometimes things just don't work out - this is one of those times. Let's start again and write off a bad job. I found this the other day - it shows what is possible, a really accurate depiction of Tony Wilson in Manchester. This is the standard we should be aiming for if not better and if we can't manage it then lets call it a day.

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Agree, it’s just wrong, as I said earlier, I’ll see it on Saturday and hope I’m wrong, but from the pictures on here, it’s embarrassing.
 
I left yesterday not totally happy with what Id managed to achieve. I said from the off its a massive task and it has to be 100% right because of who it is and how much he means to the town, the club and us.
I'd love to see a more photographic piece personally. I mocked up this below yesterday, its simple and respectful I think .
As stated earlier any type of image like that could be enlarged and stretched onto the gable end and it would be as impactful. sketch-1660240602813.jpg
 
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A lot better than it was, thanks Purdonkey. However, and this is no disrespect to you, but if you showed the updated photo to the more elderly supporter, I bet that not many would recognise it as being Sir Jimmy 👍
 
Purdonkey said:
I left yesterday not happy with what Id managed to achieve. I said form the off its a massive task and it has to be 100% right because of who it is and how much he means to the town and the club. Id love to see a more photographic piece, I mocked up a piece yesterday below, its simple and respectful I think . As stated earlier a great any type of image like that could be enlarged and stretched onto the gable end and it would be as impactful. View attachment 12335
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This. One hundred per cent this. We can only hope.
 
Still not seen it in person but why has there been no official comment from person(s) who decided on the artist and their views and more importantly the artist?

Morty that art is very impressive and for me is something that we should have been replicating.

Only us pool could have this saga :(
 
Purdonkey said:
I left yesterday not totally happy with what Id managed to achieve. I said from the off its a massive task and it has to be 100% right because of who it is and how much he means to the town, the club and us.
I'd love to see a more photographic piece personally. I mocked up this below yesterday, its simple and respectful I think .
As stated earlier any type of image like that could be enlarged and stretched onto the gable end and it would be as impactful. View attachment 12335
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As a matter of interest how much would something like the above cost, more or less than the original artist.
 
Purdonkey said:
I would guess much less than 10k but I might be totally wrong. I think its Bournemouth who have something similar on the inside of their stands, it looks pretty impressive
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Just a quick question Purdenkey - The Tony Wilson mural that I posted - Is that a stretched photo like the one you suggested for Jimmy or just a very realistic artwork? Can you tell from a photo?
 
I'll answer my own question - re -reading your own post you said a more photographic piece. You were talking about the style. Apologies for any confusion.
 
Morty said:
Just a quick question Purdenkey - The Tony Wilson mural that I posted - Is that a stretched photo like the one you suggested for Jimmy or just a very realistic artwork? Can you tell from a photo?
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The Tony Wilson piece is spray paint.
Regarding the photographic piece, I meant an enlarged photo similar to what some clubs do on large flags, or what they have on the front of the sea life centre on the prom. It removes the risk of errors and questionable styles 👍
 
Purdonkey said:
The Tony Wilson piece is spray paint.
Regarding the photographic piece, I meant an enlarged photo similar to what some clubs do on large flags, or what they have on the front of the sea life centre on the prom. It removes the risk of errors and questionable styles 👍
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Thanks - that's incredible
 
This is what I don't understand. I think the person who did the original isn't necessarily bad at what he does by any means, but the style was totally unsuitable to this particular job. So bearing in mind they were using hundreds of people's donations, how did they come to the decision to choose him? Was it someone they knew? Why did it have to be a Blackpool fan at all? You shouldn't ask the donors to choose the mural, and when they then choose a photo, go and use their money to pay for something completely different.
 
I'm sorry, but that looks ** dogshit.

Did whoever was organising this not get a professional in to do the job?

If that was my own work I would say it was someone else's. It really is that bad.
 
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