Klopp wanting a replay
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seasiderjohn
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but jones shouldn't have been sent off nor should jota the spurs player gesturing for a booking who had been booked previously should have been sent off as it is now a bookable offence to ask for a card it just looked like it was a lot of bias/ wrong decisions
RUSTY_2_STANDS
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On offsides yes it has been spot on. There's been some really tight ones but VAR has pretty much got it right. Until now.
This one was unprecedented and a pretty bad one with the officials coming out of it badly.
There seems to have been a lot of mistakes on other issues apart from offside, as there are apologies coming from Howard Webb on an almost weekly basis.
As I've said previously, I totally accept human error, we all should. And I may be alone on this, but I've got a little bit of sympathy for the guys who made this error. I'm certainly not one of the lynch mob calling for sackings.
And you can all call Klopp, but he pretty much said the same about the officials and it being a mistake.
I don't think there should be a replay. I also think there's more to Klopp's remark about a replay than immediately meets the eye.
But I also think PGMOL need to look at themselves and make some improvements to prevent so many mistakes being made.
RUSTY_2_STANDS
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Maybe a lot of wrong decisions but I'm not sure about bias. Maybe there is bias and corruption going on but I'll believe that when the proof is there. It wouldn't surprise me though as it's happened in other countries and when there's such huge sums of money involved in the Premier League there's always a chance of corruption. Human nature I suppose.
I'm sure fans of every single football club think they're on the recieving end of more bad decisions than other clubs.
I didn't want it, still don't and don't really understand enough about it to comment properly.
But, if it was now to be removed then the TV coverage is still going to show things ad nauseam. Half/full time punditry is just going to be look what you could have/shouldn't have had. Which it always was, but only from watching what everyone else saw on the screen, albeit in slow motion.
Now, they'll still be looking at graphics and toenails over imaginary lines but the officials won't. So once the manager has looked back at the coverage they'll still be asking for compensation in some form if they think they've been hard done by.
But, if it was now to be removed then the TV coverage is still going to show things ad nauseam. Half/full time punditry is just going to be look what you could have/shouldn't have had. Which it always was, but only from watching what everyone else saw on the screen, albeit in slow motion.
Now, they'll still be looking at graphics and toenails over imaginary lines but the officials won't. So once the manager has looked back at the coverage they'll still be asking for compensation in some form if they think they've been hard done by.
20togo
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yeah pretty much agree. More to Klopps remarks? Like a sympathy vote to get Curtis red card overturned?
20togo
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Jones should have been sent off it was red card all day long whether it was unfortunate or not. As for Jota, well the first yellow was harsh that's fair enough, but it was for two yellow cards. And that type of thing happens in so many matches now where one of the yellows is harsh. As for bias, it's more likely that it is you who has some bias for whatever reason.
RUSTY_2_STANDS
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No I think Klopp knows damn well they'll never get a replay. My guess is he's brought it up to keep the pressure on and keep it in the news. Keep the pot boiling so to speak. And I think it will have been agreed behind the scenes with the powers that be at the club before he said it.yeah pretty much agree. More to Klopps remarks? Like a sympathy vote to get Curtis red card overturned?
Might be wrong, that's just my guess and me reading between the lines.
20togo
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yes agree, it needs to be kept in the spotlight but as far as we know, this type of incident/situation has never occurred before and hopefully will never occur again with regards to offsides. It was purely a basic human error on Englands part, not his assistant or anyone on the pitch. Offside is a black and white issue so should never be subjective, same as goal line technology. Pretty much everything else involving VAR is subjective.
RUSTY_2_STANDS
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Yes you couldn't really blame the linesman even though he flagged wrongly. Such is the speed of the game and the players, in real time Diaz could have looked offside.
But did you see the referee's face when the cameras went on to him, just as he'd realised what a huge mistake had happened? It was a picture.
20togo
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yep, you make a fair point. The linesman maybe should have allowed the play to continue to see the outcome before raising his flag. Anyway, of course, I'm more than glad he didn't. I was watching it in the pub and actually got up to have a close look at the screen and thought yep, the linesman got it right, he was offside. I even went home from the pub thinking it was the right call. Only much later, I saw it again and realised it was a howler. For the record, I'm due at the opticians for an eye check next friday.
Agree completely Robbie.
Far too many stoppages in the game now, especially the Prem.
One game recently had 13 minutes extra to play at the end.
They are ruining football.
20togo
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that is no alternative at all. Every manager will be demanding that at every unjust decision they feel they have suffered and it would make the game a total farce. Klopp maybe a great manager, but he's the biggest whinger and moaner currently in the PL and some of his actions have been disgraceful.Personally I like Klopp.
However there is no way he will get a replay.
The only alternative, as I see it, is to award a point to each team.
Spurs won't like it, but 'who cares'?